what are the current biggest competitors? I read there are none, but cant really believe that  Not interested in Honduras any more? ;-) Competitors: Maybe Tierion - but it's also different (not decentralized like Factom). I believe it's a good project but not really a competitor. There is also a project that is called stampery. But I don't know if it can be seen as competitor. I believe Factom is Nr. 1 in what they do. |
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If the buy side goes from 800 to 150 to 800, it implies one of three things. (a) is what actually happened.
(a) 650 bitcoins were dumped onto the market.
(b) 650 bitcoins were removed from the buy side by one person.
(c) 650 bitcoins were removed from the buy side simultaneously by many people.
(c) is highly unlikely. You seem to think that (b) is the answer. If that's the case, then the buy side for factom is in fact very weak. Fortunately its not. After the mega dump, the buys were all sold into. Well that's what happens when you dump. Recovered almost immediately as everyone wants to buy cheap.
I don't know why people insist that everything is fine and dandy. Sure, stick your head into the ground and live in ignorance. It is easier that way... The markets are always efficient. There is no insider trading. Ever. Heavily regulated bankers never cheat. Unregulated exchanges/traders never take advantage of the unregulated system. There is no hunger or war in this world. Santa Claus is real. Now go back to watching and discussing the Kardashians. What exactly is not fine and dandy? Because the price did not continue to rise endless after it was about 5 times higher than just a few months back (June)? That markets are manipulated is nothing new. Regarding all the other stuff: Factom first needs to release M2 and M3 before they can safe the world ........and santa claus. What I find interesting are all the brand-new bct-users. Factom seems to be highly attractive to newbies lately. ;-) I am not complaining about the price drop. It should have corrected. Probably not this far, not this fast though. It sounds absurd when someone suggests that the price is not manipulated. That is all. If I had 1000+ BTC, I'd manipulate it myself. I'm in for the long run, so I'm not too concerned. Who did say it is not manipulated? |
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If the buy side goes from 800 to 150 to 800, it implies one of three things. (a) is what actually happened.
(a) 650 bitcoins were dumped onto the market.
(b) 650 bitcoins were removed from the buy side by one person.
(c) 650 bitcoins were removed from the buy side simultaneously by many people.
(c) is highly unlikely. You seem to think that (b) is the answer. If that's the case, then the buy side for factom is in fact very weak. Fortunately its not. After the mega dump, the buys were all sold into. Well that's what happens when you dump. Recovered almost immediately as everyone wants to buy cheap.
I don't know why people insist that everything is fine and dandy. Sure, stick your head into the ground and live in ignorance. It is easier that way... The markets are always efficient. There is no insider trading. Ever. Heavily regulated bankers never cheat. Unregulated exchanges/traders never take advantage of the unregulated system. There is no hunger or war in this world. Santa Claus is real. Now go back to watching and discussing the Kardashians. What exactly is not fine and dandy? Because the price did not continue to rise endless after it was about 5 times higher than just a few months back (June)? That markets are manipulated is nothing new. Regarding all the other stuff: Factom first needs to release M2 and M3 before they can safe the world ........and santa claus. What I find interesting are all the brand-new bct-users. Factom seems to be highly attractive to newbies lately. ;-) |
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I tried to look up what happened with the Honduras deal, but could only find old info ... nothing new. Is there a way to look up recent developments customer/usecase wise? thx
Brian Deery gave some insights in this Interview (just click): Factom Developer Insights - Brian Deeryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcEZNeypL7M&feature=youtu.be&t=9m53s |
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If the buy side goes from 800 to 150 to 800, it implies one of three things. (a) is what actually happened.
(a) 650 bitcoins were dumped onto the market.
(b) 650 bitcoins were removed from the buy side by one person.
(c) 650 bitcoins were removed from the buy side simultaneously by many people.
(c) is highly unlikely. You seem to think that (b) is the answer. If that's the case, then the buy side for factom is in fact very weak. Fortunately its not. After the mega dump, the buys were all sold into. Well that's what happens when you dump. Recovered almost immediately as everyone wants to buy cheap.
There is one more scenario: Like b) but not one person but a group - that acts strategic. |
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Nobody cares about something like that if the entire project is doomed because of it's zero-innovative tech (just copy-paste) and it's totally crazy (fraud) economical-design. You can ignore it like everybody else who bought into this - and that is one reason why there is nearly nobody left. Just a few guys who are deeply disappointed and frustrated. Most likely not even 20 ppl. Btw: The post above is totally in line what I've seen from Neucoin since launch - just sand in the eyes. Never I've seen replies on fundamental points that were pointed out in this thread. If you go back to the posts of october, november and december of 2015, you'll see: The disaster was predicted. This was one of my posts over 1 year ago: (...)
(...) Mainstream-adoption etc. is impossible! Even if this wouldn't be a planned Scam it wouldn't have any(!) chance to succeed.
Let's try it this way:
1. Imagine you are a big Investor. And you look at the distribution and you look at the inflation. There are about 100 mio Coins on the market right now (some more because of staking). But 2.9 billions are staking behind the curtain and every two weeks there is a 100%-inflation out of public perspective (100 Mio). Why the hell should you throw just 1 BTC at this even if you have 10k BTC?
2. Imagine you run a company: Why the hell should you implement a coin with this (without any) distribution and such an inflation?
3. Imagine you are a Developer for games: Why the hell should you damage you credibility and the potential of your product with a project like this?
The initial supply for the public was 100,000,000
The initial total supply was 3,000,000,000
This Coin went public a few days ago, and now there are already: 3,051,455,976 Coins!
+ 51.4 Mio Coins! That's more than 50% they sold in the public ICO!
Think about that! This project has absolutely no chance. It has no chance as a Scam and it has no chance as a legit project. And btw: How can this be legit?
What I don't get is: How stupid this is! I mean, it's much smaller than Paycoin but worse. It's so unprofessional. They worked 1 1/2 years on a project and this is the result? The group behind will make little money out of it, maybe they'll even lose money. But without any doubt they'll lose every bit of credibility. And maybe they'll have to face some legal consequences. Maybe not, because nobody seems to be interested... ;-)
And there were others who also pointed out why Neucoin was doomed before it launched. But we all were called trolls and Fudders etc. |
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This Polo "analyse" feature looks funky to me. Apparently I have made 218 BTC trading on ETCBTC, with an average sell price that's only 3% more than my average buy price (wtf).  That feature shows a loss for my Factoids-trades because I bought a lot in 2015 and sold just some % until now. But I know I'm good in the profit-zone. What I want to say with that: If you didn't sell all of your ETC - it can be misleading. |
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(...) there are big players moving the markets. probably they are close to Factom if not insiders themselves (most probably).(...)
I absolutely don't understand why it's necessary to spread those rumors. I mean, you just say "most probably" Factom-Insiders - without giving a single argument to underline that a claim. I'm in Factom since one year and I have never seen any sign for Insider-Trading (once, but in China - Yuanbao) but of course, a lot of signs for a manipulated market. But that is usual in Crypto! Maybe you're too new to know that, but Pump-n-Dump-Groups and big whales etc. move the markets. |
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Not even going to ask why you have two accounts. Nor am I going to reiterate the proofs of deception and falsehood below. You're talented, and obviously very intelligent. Most people will believe you. But ... is it worth it? D-Lux, you have a misconception here. The first screenshot shows the trades of "today". The second shows from July to now. Edit: not "to now" - from july to Oct 4th. |
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I am sorry guys , I been out of the country for work for a while and I guess I'm lost somewhere , I been reading the last two pages but I bit confuse I hope someone can help sort this out , I partecipate to the ICO but still didn't claim my coin ,is it time to ? how I claim it ? 126 pages hope someone can avoid let me read all of it
THX
First the main-net needs to launch - most likely this month or early November. But you can take a look at your ANS here: https://www.antshares.org/ICO/query/YOUR-ANTSHARES-ADDRESS |
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How many coins will there be available on launch ??
Total supply is 100 million ANS. I copied this in my notices (but without link - I believe the whitepaper was the source): - 10% of the ANS have been designated to early supporters of the Antshares, in exchange of 600,000 yuan of seed fund. - Approximately 17% of the ANS have been designated to participants of the ICO Phase I, which took place in October, 2015, in exchange of 2,100 bitcoins. - Approximately 23% of the ANS will be designated to participants of the ICO Phase II, which is about to be launched in August, 2016. - All the remaining 50% of the ANS will be hold by the Antshares team. They will be locked for 1 year via a smart contract after the Antshares MainNet launch. |
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To be in huobi and poloniex at the launch would be a dream comes true, Looking at their background as one of them is a former huobi developer, everything is possible
Poloniex and Huobi will be good for the token because of their daily volume, I think Bittrex too has a decent volume for trader Huobi is not list any coin except bitcoin and ltc, I think it's impossible.I look forward to polo. I consider LTC as "past". Antshares has much more potential and if those exchanges see it that way - why shouldn't they list ANS? I mean, in opposite to LTC Antshares has a business-model and already connections. While it's impossible to know if those exchanges will list ANS right after launch, I would be surprised if ANS wouldn't get a listing there at all. |
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Too bad the price is falling again. Guess the so-called troll ''Grossbit'' was right once again. Just because someone has a different perspective on things doesn't make himself a troll btw.
Good luck with trading.
The price reacts on Bitcoin: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusdYeah, BTC goes up 1% and FCT drops 10%...hah Yes. Because some believe BTC will go up more. Buying and selling is never just about the present but future predictions/bets on the future. |
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in terms of business potential, i think its among the top of the list, just because they've been around for a while and built a little name for them and have some contacts already. They have a first mover advantage
Thats why i'm invested in it. But as investors, we don't want just potential :-)
You're starting to lose your touch, Grossbit. If you want to maintain a credible-seeming manipulation strategy, some level of consistency is important. A couple days ago you claimed: "disclosure : I don't have any position on FCT." www.reddit.com/r/factom/comments/55x0sr/tim_draper_leads_42_million_series_a_for/d8esftgI believe he mentioned somewhere that he bought Factom-shares but sold Factoids. |
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Too bad the price is falling again. Guess the so-called troll ''Grossbit'' was right once again. Just because someone has a different perspective on things doesn't make himself a troll btw.
Good luck with trading.
The price reacts on Bitcoin: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusd |
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ok not 0, lets say market cap 1M. Are you any happier ?
Factom is a private company. They are burning cash at a fast rate, and have enough funding for maybe 18 months to 2 years. If in 2 years time, they can't get any significant contracts and if by that time a strong competitor emerges, they will put the plug on Factom, and then no more dev, and if its open source, it will be up to the CrazyIvans to take up the slack and try to make it great again....
1) Factom Inc is a company, the Factom-protocol is open source. 2) Of course Factom could fail, as startup and the entire project. But: They already have very good partnerships! To expect that there already should be high usage of the system, even before M2 is naive. To believe that they won't deliver M2 and M3 would be naive as well. And exactly because it's already safe to say that there is demand and that companies and institutions and governments are interested, it's unlikely that this won't increase with M2 and M3. Much more likely in my opinion is that we will see an explosion of use at one point. Also an explosion of applications, because the protocol is open to developers to build on. What I would like to know from all the "down-talkers" is: Is there just one blockchain-project in this space that is ahead when it comes to business-potential? in terms of business potential, i think its among the top of the list, just because they've been around for a while and built a little name for them and have some contacts already. They have a first mover advantage Thats why i'm invested in it. But as investors, we don't want just potential :-) As for their technology, I'm afraid it could be obsolete very quickly, so they have to deliver quickly. I think within 1-2 year, investors will be either well in the money, or totally broke in FCT, with not many scenarios in the middle. Why are you afraid their tech could be obsolete very quickly? And what do you think would be quickly when it comes to delivery? |
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ok not 0, lets say market cap 1M. Are you any happier ?
Factom is a private company. They are burning cash at a fast rate, and have enough funding for maybe 18 months to 2 years. If in 2 years time, they can't get any significant contracts and if by that time a strong competitor emerges, they will put the plug on Factom, and then no more dev, and if its open source, it will be up to the CrazyIvans to take up the slack and try to make it great again....
1) Factom Inc is a company, the Factom-protocol is open source. 2) Of course Factom could fail, as startup and the entire project. But: They already have very good partnerships! To expect that there already should be high usage of the system, even before M2 is naive. To believe that they won't deliver M2 and M3 would be naive as well. And exactly because it's already safe to say that there is demand and that companies and institutions and governments are interested, it's unlikely that this won't increase with M2 and M3. Much more likely in my opinion is that we will see an explosion of use at one point. Also an explosion of applications, because the protocol is open to developers to build on. What I would like to know from all the "down-talkers" is: Is there just one blockchain-project in this space that is ahead when it comes to business-potential? |
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Just found this on twitter: https://twitter.com/LykkeCity/status/784122614814019586It's an article about 10 Swiss-startups that were nominated, based on the criteria: 1. Comprehensible business case 2. Meet customers requirements 3. Investors and/or management have recognized/accepted/established "track-record" 4. Professional partners and customers 5. Innovation and market potential ....that's my own translation and my translator-skills are not the best but it should give an impression ;-)  |
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