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2281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How much money do you invest in alt coins? on: May 13, 2017, 04:41:52 PM
I have more then 120 $ in several alt`s, I don`t invest much, I started to invest and hold some altcoins few months ago, and I buy some alt`s every week, nothing much when i see price is red I`m buying 3-10 mbtc, depends how much I have in that moment. I don`t plan to stop with this kind of investing in alts, when ever I have some bitcoins I will buy some alt`s.
2282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is Gambling Like Investing on: May 12, 2017, 02:01:37 PM
I will repeat myself again, every time when you give/place bet/ put on something and you expect more in return that is a form of investment. Gambling is all about that, in gambling your results are instant in some games, in some you need to wait, in anyway with gambling we see odds, we know potential win and we know our risks. Poker and sports are two best gambling games where you can apply different strategies and where we have most chances for making profit, other lucky games are also good but risk is higher and you depend from luck and your bankroll.
2283  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Phenomenal rise of Bitcoin price! on: May 12, 2017, 11:55:02 AM
Many people have different experience on guessing the price of bitcoin, but everyone​ knows that after Japan makes bitcoin is a legalized currency in their country then the price of bitcoin increasing, no one knows where it will stops.

Yes, the Japanese government accepts bitcoin, which is why the bitcoin is rising rapidly, however, the bitcoin value is always moderately controlled, in other words, virtual currency. Never change the value of cash, it is always dominated by governments.

Well yest after this decision bitcoin price is on boom and it has crossed 1800 +. lets us wait first now if this will cross 2000$ or some dip will take place before it rises further. On the other hand awaiting news from India if they decide to ban or make it legal let us check out.


And not just Japan, Australia is also making some new regulations regarding bitcoin, they will not be double taxed like it was case until now. They lost a lot of money cause some companies left Australia, and now they are doing this and promising huge investments in technology sector. All that is good and this rise is phenomenal, but I'm not sure that we can hold this high price, this is the effect from the good news in some point people will start to sell coins and we will see price going down.
2284  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: May 11, 2017, 11:08:17 PM
Not fair but I think it is reasonable. If you want a faster transaction, you shell out additional fees and lower fees for not so fast confirmations. I think it is not automatically setup but you have to select it manually in your wallet.I hope network improves so that it is convenient t0 send and receive transaction just like before.
the fee is already cheaper than any money transfer service, people who say it's unfair, better get off sending the money by themselves because they always consider the fee even a cent as unfair

yes sir! i spent a lot of money on money transfer fees, and the fee they charge on bitcoin is very reasonable compared to money transfer services, bitcoin transaction is faster and cheaper! Smiley

Fair has many different meanings, compared with fiat money transfers and fees like western union have ( I used them few times in the past ) bitcoin fees are fair and reasonable. Who doesn`t wish to wait pays a bit more and he have faster transaction, for all the people who don`t like fees can use some wallets without any fee, but don`t complain on a little waiting sometimes.
2285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin ever drop to $1200-$1500 on: May 11, 2017, 10:08:21 PM
1200 - 1500 USD is very likely. This rise is unsustainable, we are days away from a big dump I think. Take the opportunity to load up if/when it happens.

I also think that this rise can`t last for long and eventually we will see a price going down. I`m reading comments and many people are surprised with this new records that bitcoin price is making, my prediction is based a bit on history and a bit on current situation, current news about Japan is driving price up and in one moment that will stop and price will drop and settle around 1500 $, more on less. and this is short time prediction for next month or two, what will happen until the end of the year is almost impossible to predict.
2286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Is Bitcoin Gambling Industry So Successful in the World? on: May 11, 2017, 01:56:54 PM
`2. Personal information not necessary` this is probably the main thing, along with `3. No fees during depositing or withdrawing`. I think that some bitcoin casinos offer good promotions for attracting people, that is main thing in any business today, make good marketing good promotions and you have more chances to attract more people. Due restrictions that some countries have, bitcoin is perfect currency for gambling, anyone can use vpn and access bitcoin site, deposit without much bothering, with fiat everything is more harder, people starting to realize that more and more.
2287  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Will Reach $3000 By The End Of The Year on: May 10, 2017, 10:07:46 PM
We are close now to $2,000 and I believe that we are going to reach that point before the end of the year. But I doubt that it is going to happen for this year. Well see, because the movement of bitcoin's price is very fast and most of us here didn't expect this early that the price of bitcoin is going to reach at $1,700.

That is more reasonable prediction then 3000$ by the end of this year, that is too much. Price is going up for some time, this is already surprise for many people, and I`m not the only one that thinks that we will see some drop in near future or correction, call it as you like. Anyway this watching price going up and making new records brings excitement to everyone of us.
2288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Let's talk about poker! on: May 10, 2017, 10:34:07 AM
Well I understand that you can't believe in anything cause there is no honesty in you, you don't know what that means.
I do not believe anything you say, because you are a criminal liar!


( and you have a friend here on forum probably you trust him ).
I have no friend here.


Yes I thought of that, game protect but that shows how much ignorant you are, check out tournament page, and maybe you will be surprised how many people are playing.
14 players in average! Cheesy


Please do full research before you start any accusation. And I play 10 dollars cash game, but you have no respect for my choice, no you don't have respect for anyone or anything, what that says about you?
I researched the betcoin.ag scam very well!

About what accusation do you speak?
or http://imgur.com/a/F66ZA You accuse me that I`m a criminal liar? This is what you do with everyone, you attack attack and attack without any logic and sense, again that shows a lot about your personality.

Yes you have your friends/coworkers and I still wonder who is paying you to spread rumors and spam around the forum.

14 players in average? You don`t even know what you are talking about ( and this is not the first time )

You researched something and I wonder what you have with that? As we know that guy made a deal for himself and he took the money in the end, I was here when that happened, and every casino for fiat or bitcoin have rules, and I wasn`t satisfied with every casino always but it is like it is. But that is how you promote your service, very bad way if you ask me, now even if you are valid ( in what I doubt ) I will not visit your site ever cause you are very bad person ( I told you several times about that and I explained you more then once).
You are just a spammer, and one more thread is argue just cause of you, you turned every discussion in your own foolish war against some casinos, that is madness, and that`s why I think that you are paid for that. A lot of negative trust from trusted members is also a good pointer.
I told you more then once that I will not talk with you anymore, and again you pulled me into argue with false accusation and information`s. This is the last time! I hope that other members on this forum will see your real face after all this! Good luck and please don`t wrote here anymore!
You know very well that promoting a publicly proven scam is a criminal offense!

You failed with your attacking campaign against Game Protect.

The betcoin.ag scam pays 70 promoters to have 14 players in average with $5 - $10 at the tables.  Cheesy

Your friend in crime Xiaoxiao do not pay the promised rakeback since 5 weeks!

Jasonort did not make a deal, betcoin.ag still owe him 500 Bitcoins, everyone in this forum knows that.

What is negative trust? Personal beliefs =  negative trust? Do you know that your employer Betcoin.ag has a ton of negative trust based on facts?

A lot of forum members have meanwhile seen the real face of the betcoin.ag scam and its criminal promoters like you! That is why your traffic decreased for 66% on Alexa Global Rank. Cheesy

You and your friend are two persons that talk about scam here, no one else. You are like broken record, and you are paid to talk same thing over and over again, you are not even a real person, you are a fuckin robot, and you are very annoying. I don`t attack anyone, I`m just talking about facts! Betcoin pays like all other casinos are paying!
Just morons will believe you, again you are showing that you don`t have a brain your head! XIaoxiao is service and you need to register on his referral, I`m not his referral so I don`t care what he promised to anyone, he is just one person and maybe he tricked people maybe not, that doesn`t have nothing with betcoin.ag.
What is negative trust? Personal beliefs =  negative trust? You are an idiot cause this is exactly what you are doing, and thats how you promoting yourself, you give red trust just to betcoin,ag, that again says a lot about you.
And in the end A lot of forum members know who you are, so stop hiding and stop with this attacks on betcoin.ag and me, you are boring! But you can`t do that because you are paid to do that!!!!!
Now fuck of please, I will lock this thread and I will open new one soon, but self-moderated, in that way I will be able to delete every comment you make, because you comments are off-topic always, you didn`t said nothing about poker, you are a criminal liar, not betcoin.ag or we as promoters, you are criminal!!!
2289  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: May 10, 2017, 04:47:09 AM
At the moment bitcoin is better for daily trading I think, and for holding some other altcoins. That is cause of the price, just look at the charts people who know to follow pumps&dumps can earn a lot from that, on other side we have cheap alts that can have some promising future. One more thing we need to hold some decent amount of bitcoin to have have high profit, and decent amount of bitcoins at the moment is very expensive to buy, who can afford that now.
2290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think its safe to leave coins in exchange like yobit and c-cex? on: May 09, 2017, 11:15:03 PM
Cause of the cases in past people are afraid to keep money in online exchange sites. I keep my alts on poloniex and for me they are much reliable then yobit, that is not just my opinion you can see in forum that more people have trust in poloniex then in yobit, that's why I'm not using yobit anymore. Bottom line is that you choose how much will you trust in some online exchange site, nobody can guarantee you that everything will be perfect all the time.
2291  Economy / Economics / Re: where should i invest my 0.5 btc ? on: May 09, 2017, 09:03:01 PM
0.5 bitcoin is not so big amount, therefore you can risk it easily. I will tell you what I'm doing with bitcoins, first is gambling, secondary is buying altcoins. Both are risky, gambling have well know risks, buying altcoins can also turn in catastrophe, so it's better to try both way and you will see what is going better for you, if you are lucky you will harvest profit from both gambling and trading.
2292  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: May 09, 2017, 05:25:28 PM
I think BTC is better than Gold. BTC can raise up to 10k Dollar Gold not.

BTC is undoubtedly better than bitcoin not only because of prices but many other factors.
One of the prominent of those is the real use of btc vs gold other than speculative activities. Bitcoin can be readily use as currency but use of gold is limited to jeweleries and coins and these form cannot be realised at real value of gold.

BTC we can use it whenever we want, and we want money we can sell it and get money. And we have options to pay our bills directly through Bitcoin. And the main thing is the price of BTC is high, and there is no comparison to Gold. Holding money in the bank and holding gold both are same no more profit but a safe investment.

You two are talking about advantages that bitcoin have over the gold, and question is about is there more gold holders or bitcoin holders? Gold is much older, and in some counties gold is a cultural thing, its probably more gold holders in the world at the moment but situation is changing, many crypto currencies are at rise. Fact is that in last 9 years people earn more on crypto then on gold and precious metals.
2293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: [WARNING] Large number of Poloniex members can not withdraw funds. Exit scam? on: May 09, 2017, 08:55:47 AM
Red letters, newbie, yelling here something that nobody understand. I withdraw some money last night from there, and everything was good and fine, and even confirmation was very short after. OK I`m warned, but I don`t think there is anything suspicious here, its just you that have something against them.
Just week ago someone did the same thing with bitfinex I thing, couple threads with the same text just other exchange site and nothing happened.
2294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: May 08, 2017, 05:38:47 PM
The reason Why I keep coming back is that I'm looking still for fun and amusement. Because it is already gives you happiness whether you don't care if your not winning in the games but sometimes you win which is for it is still nothing but can be a bonus or reward to your play in the gambling.
I think you don't care for money or else you have more money that is why you come back to play gambling for fun. Those who cares for money they will not take a risk once they lose money in gambling. The last line is correct the winning amount in gambling is bonus or reward points in gambling. You will not get this every game.

It`s not that we don`t care for money, I say that cause I come back to have fun and enjoy in games, just we have some money and I do not regret if I spent in on gambling, so many times I lost all my pocket money but few times I won a lot with that, so I`m somewhere on positive balance, but that is not so important, its important to get what you wish for your money. Live big hopes on a side when you gambling, enjoy in games and in that time while you are playing, if you finish with some good win great, if you lose then nothing come again next time when you have money to spare.
2295  Economy / Securities / Re: Suggest me best and trusted,oldest site for btc investment. on: May 08, 2017, 12:01:18 PM
Only safe investment is investing in casino bankroll, on that nobody complained so far. All other options are very risky, loans here and on some sites can always go wrong, I don't wish to mention cloud mining services majority lost money in that.
Looks like the ones who kept coins safe for all this time they took most of the profit, and that is best investment in bitcoins directly, services are mostly scams of simply they didn't make profit and they crash sooner or later.
2296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Buy 44 Altcoins on exchanges tomorrow for a total of 4000$ on: May 08, 2017, 10:11:17 AM
Uh you have wallet's for more altcoins, but I don't use wallet for every coin. Like some other people I also hold some of my alts on poloniex and I think they have good protection. My amount there is a little more then 100 dollars, that isn't much, but I don't know would I keep there 4000 dollars. So if you are buying ltc, ETH, dash, lisk or some other big coin you can make wallet's for them, other coins keep on poloniex and problem solved. Good luck!
2297  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ? on: May 08, 2017, 05:31:13 AM
its very risky and that makes it so fun Smiley
Bitcoin investment is not that risky if you just know when to buy and when to sell. Every investment has risk but there is a possibility for every investor to minimize or get a less risk when investing by doing study about the news and also analyzing the market very well and because of those two there will be just a small chance of getting loss and also you will get a lesser risk than before.
While what you say is correct, we need to have a plan, many newbies buy bitcoin without knowing what to expect and at the first sight of problems they sell not knowing that bitcoin is very variable and losing 10% in a day is not much for us, but a newbie gets scared and they lose money that way.
The mistakes that we make with bitcoin leads for a loss. For this users misquote it as a risky investment. We cannot deny that investment with bitcoin has got risk but the risk can be overcome and profited based on the knowledge we acquire before starting to use bitcoin.
Its easy for you to say that you just need to know when to Buy and Sell Bitcoin, but it is harder than that as of right now we are on the 1500$ level quickly you really don't know if it will have a price correction or it will continue to go up. With that being said Technical Analysis is one of the best ways to predict the market but it is not a guaranteed way that your predictions is accurate. Bitcoin investment is really one of the risky investments out there because you don't know where it will go, that is why trading is the best for it.
I don’t know why people are so obsessed to try to squeeze every cent out of the market at the 1500 almost everyone must be on the green zone and being able to get some profits, if you feel like selling then do it bitcoin is not going to be 10000 overnight you can always buy again when you feel more comfortable with your prediction.

They are obsessed cause they don't wish to sell on 1500 and to see 1700 in couple days, and that is not couple cents, if you have more then couple bitcoins that can already be 1000 dollars lost just for hurrying.
I also think that it's easy to talk about right moments for trading, but when you risking a lot and steaks are high it's hard to stay calm and do the right thing, and to add on that that here most of us trade on luck or we follow some good trader's and that make risking even harder. Probably best thing to do is to always be green and sell with some profit.
2298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: May 07, 2017, 10:44:09 AM
I am not that sure why people that gamble online have their payment method set up with PayPal or the other mainstream payment companies when they often shut down accounts and not return the money that the person made. Since Bitcoin is against that type of stuff it would be better for them to just make money by using btc to earn money and be able to hold onto it when they requested a withdrawal from the gambling website.

If Bitcoin is around in the near future then more people will be using it to gamble.

For me the rising of online gambling casino is catering the high demand of people using bitcoins. The demand is just so vast that even the price of bitcoin is now at its very high pick

Bitcoin still didn`t find a way to get to all the online gamblers in the world, some of the people already build good ranks in fiat casinos and I don`t think they will quit so easily from that. I`m the one of the people that gamble just with bitcoins now, cause I`m from the third world country I had many restrictions and bitcoin opened a door for me to online gambling, and that will be the case with many people in the world, thats why bitcoin is the future of online gambling, but not just bitcoin, looks like ltc and eth, and some other currencies are making their break trough in gambling industry.
2299  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: May 06, 2017, 01:26:30 PM
I don't even believe in that non sense that bitcoin is dead ? It has been a few years they said that ! But it didn't came true because there is no big reason that bitcoin can be possibly dead even it is not accepted by the government, bitcoin cannot be dead.

Bitcoin is still very young and is still growing and it keeps getting stronger everyday. It is impossible that it will die at this point of time but it can be possible 50 years from now when there are new kinds of alternative currency that is much better compared to bitcoin. But right now let us enjoy bitcoin ans also enjoy the profit that we can make from it.

That is reasonable thinking, bitcoin is young and its far from any kind of death. This is an odl topic, back in the days this threads could create some fear among forum members and maybe even start some panic selling situation. Now bitcoin is much stronger and we can see this threads as attempt to disturb community, bitcoin is still alive and only some new technology can make bitcoin disappear, but when will that happen, in 50 years like you said maybe.
2300  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: May 06, 2017, 11:11:35 AM
This has been here for a long time and people have been recommending so much here. I would say that the best way is to get a real life job. It doesn't have to be in an office or wherever, you can still get a job online if you want too. Just get a job where there is an employer that will pay you for your work and don't rely on investments if you want it to be a steady income

yeah this has always been the most given option to have steady income and it definitely it is. there will be a consistent amount you'll receive every pay out and all you need to do is finish the task given to you. no need to shell out any capital and all that.

This is also  real life, if you can do something from your computer and without leaving home that is perfect way of earning, and perfect working surrounding in my opinion. Now programmers earn good money, and some of that have option to work from home. I think someone who started with bitcoins earlier and bought when price was very low, back then and now he could invested good amount of bitcoins into something and to just take cream from the top, that is steady and high monthly income without any actual working, is there anything better then that?
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