I dont want to play the what if game about something that will never happen. Majority is not going to vote to take 50% of income, if they do then that isnt exactly in line with the implications of our forefathers, ie MF*ing tea party.
Wake up dude. Already happened. Add up corporate + payroll + sales + personal income + property + fees and tariffs + capital gains + inheritance + state + local + all the other taxes and you'll find more than half of the average person's wealth is being stolen by the government. This doesn't even need to include the perpetual inflation tax of money printing, or the multiplying effect that many of these taxes are taken at each stage of production. It wasn't a "what if" scenario - it was a "why do you love a country that does this to you" scenario. |
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Thanks for the heads-up on this forum. It was good enough news to provoke me into gobbling up some more BTC.
As much as I advocate Bitcoin, I really don't think you should be eating it =/ |
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Probably that the core bitcoin protocol and network has never been hacked or infringed upon. That alone is quite amazing, and a testament to the good design of the system.
We can imagine that there must be an army of hackers out there trying to profit by corrupting the Bitcoin system. Thus far, they've only been able to successfully attack companies and websites, but never Bitcoin itself.
Because companies, websites, and end users are what hackers target. You don't "hack the internet", you target entities, not protocols. That's how it works. You can't "hack the dollar", but you can take someone else's dollar. You could put one in a color copier, sure. Is that hacking? Ctrl+C on wallet.dat, Ctrl+V. Race to spending go! You can "hack the dollar." It's called counterfeiting, and it happens every day - mainly by the Federal Reserve. My point is that nobody has been able to do something similar with Bitcoin, and this is quite remarkable and impressive. |
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Utah's government really deserves a lot of praise for this. Really happy about it.
It means also that if the Federal Government made gold or Bitcoins illegal as money (it already did that once with gold years ago), it would put them directly in opposition to Utah. Let's hope Utah holds firm in its decision.
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Your "private property" is still still on American soil, so if the general American consensus is we don't want you harboring people from other countries we don't want you keeping more than 50% of your income, we can stop you, it is called a majority in a democracy. There has to be some rules to secure liberty for posterity.
Do you still stand by your statement after my above edit? |
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Actually, there are both "positive" and "negative" concepts of liberty. Negative liberty is the absence of constraints. Positive liberty is the ability to acquire one's needs and wants. To guarantee negative liberty, you merely need to not interfere with others. This is the common libertarian view of liberty. To guarantee positive liberty, society must often intervene in some manner to alleviate the limitations placed on people for one reason or another. For example, you can't reach your full potential if you are ill and cannot afford medical care. I believe that we need to consider both positive and negative concepts of liberty and work as a society to increase both. However, I don't believe in coercive means of increasing positive liberty as this only decreases negative liberty. We need to become a more charitable society, but this has to happen at the grassroots level and not be forcibly imposed by a central authority. Forced wealth redistribution only pisses people off and makes them less charitable and less productive. It is not the way forward. For more on positive versus negative liberty, see here: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberty-positive-negative/Well said. |
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My company handles the tech side for the healthcare industry. For example, websites, online training, well-being, virtual worlds, etc. For example, we have websites that help people find jobs, sites that let families keep in touch, etc.
Do you take payment for these services online? If so, what's your chargeback rate and losses from that? Do you accept customers from other countries? |
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Our company is going through a strategic shift. The CEO sent out an email asking for people for ideas. If I have an idea I will get the opportunity to stand in front of the CEO and management for 10 min to talk about whatever I want. I don't know how bitcoins can help the health or well-being industry. Maybe I have not thought of it yet.
I just think there is a small chance that if the idea is good enough then my company would be able to fund a bitcoin project. What is in it for you? Well, I can't give you anything. This is more of an attempt by me to promote bitcoins because I believe in it. And if a company with money could develop something relating to bitcoins it would just be a bonus for the bitcoin economy.
We need details on what your company does, before we could answer how Bitcoin may be implemented. |
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Probably that the core bitcoin protocol and network has never been hacked or infringed upon. That alone is quite amazing, and a testament to the good design of the system.
We can imagine that there must be an army of hackers out there trying to profit by corrupting the Bitcoin system. Thus far, they've only been able to successfully attack companies and websites, but never Bitcoin itself.
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Hmmm can you give more details?? Are you saying that you're trying to pitch Bitcoins to your boss? For what purpose?
I'm happy to provide some reasoning for you, but I need more context first.
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There are a bunch of groups, and i mean a whole bunch, that use American society everyday to try and progress their cause of destroying america from the inside out. Their are plenty of races that love America and live here already, but the bottom line is mexican activist groups need to be slapped down by the hand of god, or my strap. They openly advocate all sorts of bullshit on our streets, they are illegal criminals from another country, they bring in heroin, arms, meth, prostitution, etc., and when we catch them infultrating our country, we give them a sack lunch and an air conditioned ride back to the start line to try again. Most countries execute on site for that kind of thing.
Anyone who wants something else for this country other than the original purpose, will need to experience some violence to put them in their place, or we can repatriate them to their father land of choice.
Im done ranting, I realized that it is not my job to convince people who cannot be convinced. You cannot teach calculus to someone not capable. It is more likely my job to eliminate enemies of my land, its just kinda scary and difficult these days, and not very many people are actual American's so they wouldnt understand.
So America is your land, is it? All of it? Even that part of the land which is my private property? If I want to hire a Mexican at my private business, or rent him an apartment on my private property, are you going to tell me I can't do so, until he files the right paperwork with your preferred bureaucratic office and gets their permission? What if he wants to do some heroin with me? Who are you to tell us what we can do with our own bodies? And maybe he has a lady friend who likes selling sex services... what sort of tyrant are you to infringe on her liberties? And here you go ranting about your guns, but you are upset that an immigrant might have a gun? Are you one of those people who thinks private individuals must register their firearms with the government? How very un-Second Amendment of you. You sound awfully statist, quite frankly. In fact, anyone who really cared about liberty, instead of some silly homogeneous nationalism, might perceive you as the very type of person who is "destroying America from the inside out." Here's a tip - stop worrying about the Mexicans. Start worrying about the government itself. Don't like Mexicans getting free healthcare? Me neither - but the problem isn't the Mexican, it's the free health care. Don't like that the Mexicans are selling drugs? Me neither, the gas stations should be allowed to sell them - but absurd prohibitionist laws have forced drug sales into a violent underground. Don't like that Mexicans are taking up your school resources? Me neither... how about we end public schools? Or do you support that kind of socialism? Do you salute the flag, or do you salute liberty? The former gains power only at the expense of the latter... so think hard on this question. |
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THAT IS WHAT I ADVOCATE NOW. Smoke those that oppose, whoever is left wins.
Wow that's the very opposite of libertarian. Hope you're joking. |
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I'm not sure how you find my posts to be 'anti-freedom', though? That just sounds like some like some bullshit you made up.
The definition of freedom is in the eye of the beholder. Because you have openly challenged a lot of their libertarian views, you are now deemed by 'them' as being an 'enemy' to their 'freedom'. Many other cults display similar tendencies when non believers criticise their beliefs. A reasonable definition of freedom is: not using coercion, theft, fraud, or violence to advance one's goals. It's unfortunate that advocating such a message elicits the label of "cult." Seems to me that it might be more reasonable to use the cult label when describing people who worship flags, badges, and the scripture of legislatures as moral truth. Put the average libertarian next to the average police office, soldier, IRS agent, Congressman, or "Supreme Court" justice. Observe their codes of conduct, their rituals, and the the meaning they derive from symbols, authority figures, and protocol. Observe who tells you how to act, dress, speak, and obey. Observe who demands conformity and obedience. Which side exhibits traits of individualism, and which of collectivism? Which side should more properly be described as the cult? |
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I do apologize if my post was not to your standards.
Perhaps we have different definitions of "success." If I steal a million dollars from society and build a beautiful park, is that a "successful implementation" of a park? Does the fact that the beautiful park is desirable give me the moral right to coercively obtain the resources with which to create it?
Taxes aren't theft and not having large amounts of the population die from easily treatable medical conditions for a few percentage points of profit is definitely a 'success'. Hmmm I see your point. There is another easily treatable medical condition that tens of millions are suffering from, known as starvation. Might it be "successful" to take a few percentage points of profit from your bank account and buy bread for them? Surely you are quite wealthy compared to such people, and their need must surely be greater than your desire for your next Blu-ray, case of beer, or book? How much did you spend on your last pair of shoes, and how many days' worth of food could that have purchased for those truly in need? How much have you spent on fuel just for the purpose of air-conditioning your car or house? The computer upon which you typed your message... might it have been more successful to use that money to feed the famished... suffering so unjustly from their easily treatable medical condition? Or should those few percentage points of profit in your bank account not be included in the taking? Only those wealthier than you ought to surrender their resources? Because from where you're standing, THEY are the rich ones. But... it does seem that you are far wealthier than the starving Ethiopian, and in terms of comparative lifestyle you are much closer to those rich you despise than the Ethiopian is to you. Where is the greater wealth gap... and how might we go about closing it? Let's take a look at the extravagances of your lifestyle and I'm sure we can find many ways to be successful. It's always fun to enjoy successes with other peoples' things, isn't it? The image i posted apply to you too. Go check WHY ethiopian are poor and hungry. Then you will discover things like war lords, criminals etc etc. You donate money? Nice, they buy more weapons and don't give a fuck to the people dying. Seriously guys, if you want to troll, learn to do it in a decent way. Gabi - you missed my point entirely. And no, the image you posted does not apply to me. |
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I do apologize if my post was not to your standards.
Perhaps we have different definitions of "success." If I steal a million dollars from society and build a beautiful park, is that a "successful implementation" of a park? Does the fact that the beautiful park is desirable give me the moral right to coercively obtain the resources with which to create it?
Taxes aren't theft and not having large amounts of the population die from easily treatable medical conditions for a few percentage points of profit is definitely a 'success'. Hmmm I see your point. There is another easily treatable medical condition that tens of millions are suffering from, known as starvation. Might it be "successful" to take a few percentage points of profit from your bank account and buy bread for them? Surely you are quite wealthy compared to such people, and their need must surely be greater than your desire for your next Blu-ray, case of beer, or book? How much did you spend on your last pair of shoes, and how many days' worth of food could that have purchased for those truly in need? How much have you spent on fuel just for the purpose of air-conditioning your car or house? The computer upon which you typed your message... might it have been more successful to use that money to feed the famished... suffering so unjustly from their easily treatable medical condition? Or should those few percentage points of profit in your bank account not be included in the taking? Only those wealthier than you ought to surrender their resources? Because from where you're standing, THEY are the rich ones. But... it does seem that you are far wealthier than the starving Ethiopian, and in terms of comparative lifestyle you are much closer to those rich you despise than the Ethiopian is to you. Where is the greater wealth gap... and how might we go about closing it? Let's take a look at the extravagances of your lifestyle and I'm sure we can find many ways to be successful. It's always fun to enjoy successes with other peoples' things, isn't it? |
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Okay so I'm finished writing the base code for the new shopping cart system over at CheaperInBitcoins.com before I release/finish the code I'd like to know if anybody had any last minute suggestions what they'd like to see in a Bitcoin shopping cart?
Wheels that don't get all sticky  |
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Obtaining them anonymously is a bit difficult unless you know people you can meet with in person for cash. If you know Silk Road, some people sell Bitcoins there for cash precisely for anonymity purposes.
Perhaps a better strategy is to obscure the source of the coins once you obtain them. Use instawallet.org or similar, and send between accounts multiple times over days or weeks, using the "green address". Vary the quantities sent each time.
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And I'm curious... what is universal health care? All treatment has cost - so to what level of cost are all people entitled, in your view? Do we all have a right to ibuprofen? Or do we have a right to yearly checkups? Or to all drugs and perscriptions? Or do we have a right to infinite health resources? And if we have a right to a good or service, does that not mandate a slavish claim upon the life of another person? If I'm entitled to ibuprofen, who should be forcefully compelled to produce it for me?
Your whole post is pretty dumb but this part stands out. Yes, let's take a debate about whether or not to provide universal healthcare in the direction of questioning 'what is the nature of healthcare'. Look at all the other countries that have successfully implemented and continue to run well respected national health services you boob. I do apologize if my post was not to your standards. Perhaps we have different definitions of "success." If I steal a million dollars from society and build a beautiful park, is that a "successful implementation" of a park? Does the fact that the beautiful park is desirable give me the moral right to coercively obtain the resources with which to create it? |
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