Well done on that:)

Britcoin put out a press release here : http://www.pressat.co.uk/ and within a few hours IBTimes got in touch with them.  It might be worth doing the same to help get the word out about the Presale even further as that suggests to me that other news organisations may also be looking for news material there.

Luckily I've started receiving payments on Coinking.io again.  I think it's the coin conversion stage that slows things down as direct payouts are very quick.  In fact I just took some of the coins out myself and converted them directly on Bittrex which was a lot quicker to test this out.

This is fortunate as I've had to cancel the alternative Pool with Livechains - it was getting too expensive.  I had already paid $90 which I thought covered me for the first month but they sent me another invoice today for $140 dollars and it was basically more trouble/cost than it was worth.  I wasn't able to even figure out how to use or run it on my own, so it didn't really make sense. 

Anyway once my mini ASIC arrives I'm going to point it straight to mining at CoinKing.  It's only 5MH/s but it should use less power than my GPU rigs and if I can replace some of my GPUs I can buy more ASICs.

Another coin I like (Britcoin) got an article on IBTUK (International Business Times UK) - might be worth doing an interview with them to get more coverage for the Presale and the innovations that SYS offers.  Their twitter handle is @IBTimesUK .

No need.  Just keep doing what you need to, to take things forward:)

Yes that was not my intention.  I'm not normally one to panic (in fact I'm usually a very steady hand) but have not been getting much sleep lately and running on caffeine hasn't helped.  There have been so many scams in crypto lately that I added 2+2 and came up with a million.   I have taken a step back and considered it - I have been following the developers for a couple of months so it's silly to have a knee-jerk response like this.  I will continue to support Syscoin - even if I don't make a profit, the concept itself is worth being a part of.

Guys I think I've fundamentally misunderstood some postings by others (whom I mistakenly thought were part of the team).  This is one of the risks of reading forum posts when you are sleep deprived.  I'm still not happy about my posts being deleted but I am going to sit this out and keep my fingers crossed for everything to happen as planned.  Apologies if my "panic" rubbed off on anyone else.  I will ensure that I don't start reading the forums again when I am sleep derprived and running on 4 cups of coffee.  If the moderator can delete my previous messages and related messages I don't mind because I don't want anyone else getting in a similar state.  I think some more clarification in the OP post is great.

You're probably right.  I think if they deliver this will be huge.  I think there has been a lot of misunderstanding on this topic (a lot in the forum).  I apologise if I have caused misinformation.  Have just been concerned and any time I see that one of my messages has been deleted it is a warning sign for me.

Yes that would be useful actually.  It was some of this kind of stuff that made me a bit jittery.

That's what Moolah told me themselves.  I think they would know better than you.

Then don't.  You were less than transparent at the presale launch.  Simply stating that you won't issue refunds is not only unacceptable it is also illegal under UK and EU law.  If you have confidence in your product this shouldn't be a problem.


No it's not.  A lot of our concerns have arisen out of information that has only been posted in these forums AFTER the presale began.  Anyway the way you are behaving doesn't exactly make for good PR.

Actually I've just spoken to Moolah.  They say it is completely out of their control and Syscoin have control of all the wallets etc - so only they can issue refunds.  It just gets WORSE.

I'm sorry but you did not make it clear at launch that anyone buying into the presale will have no real advantage over anyone buying later.  If anything buying into it in the presale means that you take on the risk of failure with insufficient payoff to compensate for that.  I will see if Moolah have better customer service. Had you made this clear at the start of the presale I wouldn't have bought in.  Also deleting my messages and your defensive response is pretty much making it clear that this is not a coin to invest in.

Well I'll put in a ticket with Moolah for a refund and see what they say.  This is hardly reassuring from a PR/customer relations standpoint for SYScoin.  If I was looking to invest in this coin and found out that the developers had so little confidence in it that they refused refunds I would not be impressed.

Well I want a refund.  I'm not prepared to have my BTC locked up for 3+ weeks.  If I get it back I can trade it and try  and make it larger so I can buy more when it is actually released.

Is there any way I can get a refund for my presale?  I've changed my mind and would rather wait until release to invest.

Guys keep getting the word out about Syscoin.  The devs can't do it alone no matter how accomplished they are, it takes community support to make a coin successful.  This is the first true 2nd generation coin like Ethereum, but it's here NOW - so get the word out and let everyone you can know about it.

I tweeted Moolah and this is what they said:


I think it would be a good idea for the team to get in touch with them directly and assuage any fears that they have.  The addition of Moolah would be massive as it would allow direct fiat to Britcoin conversion.

It's a good long term investment but not for short term gains.

Yes I'm also on OS-X and I'm not getting the amount I should be.  I'm not too concerned about it right now myself but obviously this will need to be resolved.