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2301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 14, 2016, 11:28:46 AM
What used to keep me from coming back was the chance of making this one insane bet and winning a truckload of money. If I was in a profit however, I probably would've thought I had suddenly found this strategy that can beat the odds of the casino and keep playing until I lose it all Tongue.

Most of the people are coming back to gambling for the same reason of east and fast money. But very less people get that chance to win money in gambling and also they may again lose back to the site in the hunt for more and more profits. I usually just gamble with some fixed amount and will stop after some time whether I lose or win. But until now never win big amounts in gambling.

That is because there is a house edge advantage to these online casinos and even to offline casinos. That is their advantage and assurance that they will not go bankrupt and just focus on giving entertainment to people who play to their casinos. That is the fact, they will always profit at the end of the day, that is what they are designed for.
2302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 14, 2016, 11:26:55 AM
Well, so far I don't know anyone who is, I just see reports on the internet. But risk is the main reason why I prefer other alternatives to making money.
The reports you see in the internet are not real, they are just doing it for the sake of marketing, you should be wise enough to understand that if you fall for the trap your real nightmare will begin. Don't think gambling is a fun journey when you are here to intend money making.

That is 100% correct. All those reports you find on the internet are manipulated and just to attract more people for gambling so that they can make a lot money. Just think if gambling houses are losing money why they will go and market that come and take money from us. It is all trap, so gamble carefully with small amount always.

I agree with you mate.. casinos - whether online or offline, are designed for those casinos to profit. They have the house edge advantage and therefore, they will always win. Better to just play for fun with money that you can afford to lose because you will surely eventually lose if you just bet randomly unless you are very lucky enough.

But that is just how casino works, you will need to play it in all your luck and winning and losing is at random you can never tell if your gonna profit this day or tomorrow, that is just how gambling work but I can say there are players that just lucky to win a big bet and eventually profit that much but you can really never tell the effectiveness of your luck if you don't tr to play gambling.

Plying with online casinos is based on pure luck. If you are brilliant and lucky enough, then you can get away with the house edge advantage from time to time with your calculated pre-planned betting and sessions. But to be honest, I would rather gamble for fun because I have many other serious thing to do and just gamble to relieve stress for a moment.
2303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: November 14, 2016, 11:23:34 AM
some time ago i was gambling only for profit for a while and after some time i finally came to a conclusion that it is not possible to make any profit out of gambling or at least this is what my experience with gambling told  me. so now i am rarely gambling and if i do i do it for fun.
Yes at the beginning of my gamble is also aiming for a profit. But after I lost and did not benefit me realize that gambling is not for profit. Then I gamble for fun by limiting the amount of bets. I am aware of gambling is a game that requires luck, so better I gamble for fun rather than for profit. Most importantly if the gamble should have self-control in the betting order not to get into a defeat and loss.
Yeaaa just try to not get addicted to gamble with your past losts usually you want to chase it.
To gamble for fun is the real essential of gambling.
You will not get profit in the long term , it was a fact people must learn from their experience.

I agree with you mate. If we just gambler for fun and only use money that we can afford to lose at anytime, then there will no problem at all and we are just playing for fun - that is our ultimate goal, period. However, if our goal is like milking these online casinos and make a living out of it, then we better think twice because it will not happen most of the time.
2304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 14, 2016, 11:13:58 AM
Gambling is wrong, the people that are doing it over and over and are getting greedy and just do it for the money are very wrong, the game itself cannot be blamed in my eyes.

In short if you abuse it for the purpose of only making money, which is very hard to do. You'll just get frustrated if you are looking for money in gambling. The game is not wrong, you are right, but I think the operator would also be considered wrong if his gambling site is not fair to players, in short the operator making too much money out of the players.

The main purpose of gambling is to make money and fun too, I also agreed with you so when we take it as only way of money making for our living than it will regret and surely we will get disappointed to have result, so that kind of situation made it wrong.

When you start to approach gambling as your way to earn money for living, then you need to practice and commit yourself to become a professional gambler and you will only gamble instead of working other things. If you cannot commit to this, then you will surely be disappointed.
2305  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: November 14, 2016, 11:09:20 AM
as i am a newbie.. i know nothing about trading... what should i do to start trading and multiply my btc.. guys please help me
first of all you needs to start trading onky with Bitcoin , i mean you should start trading without altcoin and made buy sell only bitcoin at local .
in this way you will get better trading knowledge to do trading with altcoin and you also will gather knowledge to manage your trading money .
Depends on your capital, and I believe only if you have a bigger amount of capital will you can earn with bitcoin. Since you capital is only limited, you can trade with alts, you can buy different coins in the amount you are holding and you can try to experience different assets with different market.

I agree with this. They only thing you will get a feel of true earnings or profit in trading is when you have bigger bankroll - but if you are just starting to trade, with a small amount of bankroll, you are ok as you are just starting to learn proper and best trading with small amount and you are not risking big money during your learning process.
2306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 14, 2016, 11:04:00 AM
The addicting part is that, when you are winning, you want more, and when you are losing you want to recover.
Haha, either way, you will play in a long time which is good for the gambling site, that's why gambling is designed for people to lose money. haha
yeah that's right. there are always a little percentage of winning in gambling. unless you know how to deceive them. then you will always be a winner in a game, and will go home with a lot of money. and HAPPY! hahahaha  Grin

What do you mean deceive though? If you're playing poker, probably deception will be a skill you can use to win. But, what if you're playing online gambling games like Bitcoin Dice? Will you be able to deceive the computer?
Playing in poker will give you a good chance of winning because it's a skilled based games and it has no housed edge. On the other hand, dice is very risky game in gambling if you prefer to make money it, the outcome is fast but your skills is useful as it is a luck based games.

The thing you need in playing dice online is to be able to create a pre planned bets that you will just follow no matter what the streak of winning and losing. You must also create many sessions and divide your bankroll appropriately to the number of sessions you've created. There are many things you can do as well with the game of dice online.
2307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: November 14, 2016, 11:01:45 AM
In the first place gambling was introduced not for gaining your profit but for entertainment purspose only and it was introduced long time ago, but what happen is that since it involves money some people try to earn their profit on it and others follow then  now it became a tradition.

You are right. Gambling is passed by generations to generations and people tend to have like it so much that it still flourish up to these days and are now even more sophisticated due to the advanced technology. With the convenience of gambling technology can offer, and so with many people are getting hooked at it.
2308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 14, 2016, 10:57:41 AM
Find a good hobby like sports, music etc and keep focus on your new hobby. Try to avoid to meet with friends that still on gambling business and hopefuly you will be able to quit gambling with it. But, it's 100% depends on you. How strong your desire to quit gambling?

Yes, one can come out of this habit if they completely stop using the computer for some time and spend more time in outdoor activities with family and friends. But as you said they shouldn't meet people who discuss gambling then surely they can stop gambling habit soon or later.

I agree with you mate. If you only gambles online, then the best way to get out of it is to stay away online for couple of days and just do anything outdoor. If your source of income is doing online work, then you better try to find something about it - maybe you can block the gambling sites you are playing with.
2309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 14, 2016, 10:54:47 AM
Gambling is in fact a hobby of rich persons which they use for various purposes and fun is one of them. If I was rich I was off course doing gambling because for me it is not to make money since I was already having lot of money. It is poor which gamble to become rich watching rich playing gamble they think it is way of becoming rich.
I too think a rich man will not gamble as he will be having many other opportunities to entertain himself, still they may find some time to gamble but definitely not regularly. But when people are occasionally watching them they get the wrong lessons like they were becoming rich only due to gambling and poor people also want to copy what they did.
gambling are not always about money , i even see there a lot of rich people gambling rather than poor people. it's indicates on how people keep gambling even they are rich already. things make gambling be a big problem on someone life precisely due there is poor people trying to become rich through gamble.

Agree to that - Gambling is not all about money every time. Of course, there are people that gambles for money like professional gamblers does. However, if you are not a professional gambler and you bet on your hard earned money is where the problem starts. We should play or gamble just for fun and entertainment only.
2310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: November 14, 2016, 10:31:23 AM
i guess most people like me gamble for only 1 reason.
PROFIT
and it's not wrong
haha

Gambling for profit is never wrong. It is the greed that makes us lose our money. In fact, gambling itself is also never wrong. But it is people who tends to overspend what they can afford that hurt the people surrounding them that makes gambling a sin. As long as you know how to control yourself, it is ok to gamble.
profit and fun are always there when it comes in gambling but there is also the time that you will be sad at all when you knew that no money left in your wallet.  Grin so you must know how to discipline yourself. hehe Grin

That's why you shouldn't gamble with all your money because it is not meant for making a profit from it. You should only deposit small % of your savings to have fun and if you're lucky then you can win some money from gambling otherwise just think that you spent that amount for your entertainment.

Agree! Only use money that you can afford to lose because you will eventually will - that is the fact. Although you win some but if you will not stop playing, you will surely going to lose because of the house edge. If you use all of your hard earned money, then it would be very hard and disappointing when you lose them all.
2311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 14, 2016, 10:29:39 AM
methods gamble ?. I think the experience in gambling is a method to achieve victory. Do not believe the trick! because admin was not stupid. no tricks in gambling just luck Smiley

I don't think any experience will bring you victory in gambling but it can surely help you to reduce your losses in gambling. You just need a simple thing LUCK in gambling to win money other then that nothing will help you to make money from gambling. If you want to be safer then better don't gamble.
Better to use just small amount and make some review about the tips you are getting theres no sure thing or safe methods if dealing with gambling just luck and good control of loses the more you understand the game the more you will get chance to win big or lose much lesser.

I agree with you. Even professional gamblers loses many sessions when they play. However, they have a system that they mastered and for sure are hesitant to share to public so that it won't get noticed by casino algorithms. But yes, we more like lose than win in gambling because of the casino house edge.
2312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 14, 2016, 10:28:04 AM
Both ways are risky. I prefer to invest because you have more control on your money.
If you gamble so do it for fun - You will not be rich with that.

I'm agreed with you both ways have a lot of risks but gambling for fun will be nice there and I think so with the help we can take control over our funds in better way, gambling can't make us rich because it has more high risks.

You are right mate, if we just play or gamble just for fun and use only money that we can afford to lose, then there is really nothing for us to worry about losing because what we are after is to have fun and be entertained even if we are losing as long as we are having fun - if it is no longer fun at all, better to stop playing at that moment.
2313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 14, 2016, 10:25:37 AM
Well, so far I don't know anyone who is, I just see reports on the internet. But risk is the main reason why I prefer other alternatives to making money.
The reports you see in the internet are not real, they are just doing it for the sake of marketing, you should be wise enough to understand that if you fall for the trap your real nightmare will begin. Don't think gambling is a fun journey when you are here to intend money making.

That is 100% correct. All those reports you find on the internet are manipulated and just to attract more people for gambling so that they can make a lot money. Just think if gambling houses are losing money why they will go and market that come and take money from us. It is all trap, so gamble carefully with small amount always.

I agree with you mate.. casinos - whether online or offline, are designed for those casinos to profit. They have the house edge advantage and therefore, they will always win. Better to just play for fun with money that you can afford to lose because you will surely eventually lose if you just bet randomly unless you are very lucky enough.
2314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: November 14, 2016, 07:49:52 AM
I don't understand why always people take gambling with negative thought, the main purpose of gambling is for entertainment and that is way to make fun but only few greedy people who abuse and turned this the worse thing, if take it easy just for entertain ourself than I think without gambling my life will be very boring that is my personal opinion maybe other wouldn't do agree with me.
You have to understand them as they are a bunch of losers, losers normally complains since they are burning their money in gambling without having fun and that's worse. Gambling should be for fun and it's fine to spend when you are getting entertained.

That is correct and make sense. When someone is winning in the casino, he or she will certainly not complain and have really a good time gambling. The loser however, most likely to complain that the site is rigged and is doing something wrong that all of the players will going to lose and not win at all because of the algorithm..
2315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: November 07, 2016, 08:58:19 AM
Do your research! if its a sports bet then use their statistics to determine what team is on advantage rather than just picking randomly without doing some searching. Most sports always have a site to access so you can see their rankings and eventually who's the most dominating the game. 

I do agree on what you mentioned to research before choosing the winning team. But you should know that still, we need some luck to win our bets in sports as well because a nowadays lot of matches been fixed and you can't guess any winning team just based on their past performance. So it is always good to go with smaller bets to avoid bit losses in sports betting.
When you are doing the right research you will not be able to wait for your luck anymore because your skills will convince you that you will be able to win the game. What we need is to have a consistent win or your win must be more than your loses and you cannot do that with luck alone.

That is a good point and the key there is winning more than losing. Hence, we will really encounter losses in the process and so with winning as well. What we target is we will win more than our losses so that we will be at good profit.
2316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: November 07, 2016, 08:56:21 AM
it rocks until you are lucky!!!
Well i guess you are a risky person and you can afford to lose bigger as well but with that perception if you got lucky you will able to win big as well.

All perception can indeed we do, but sometimes it all could also be bad news or a big loss if we also do wrong in perception. because gambling is not a thing that can easily for prediction, so if we rely solely on a predictions or perceptions then would get a big loss. so, do the gambling for fun and don't get too hopeful against gambling, because it will make you addicted to that can give you a loss

In short, only gamble for fun and entertainment and not for profit at all - which is should we do in the first place because gambling was design for entertainment only and it is also programmed to make the owner of the casino wins in the long run through the house edge advantage. Upon knowing these, we must be very realistic that at the end of the day, casino will win against us.
2317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: November 07, 2016, 08:41:48 AM
do you like slot games ?
Honestly no i don't really want slot games i only want dice games and other's games with bitcoin but slot games i don't really think so i never tried play slot games i know that i don't have luck there or maybe i don't really have luck in all games.

in my experience, it is easier to win in dice games than in slot games. The latter is just base on pure luck and you are limited to just clicking the button aside from setting the amount of bet and all will be doing its thing - the graphics and all. And before you knew it, you will lose all of your bankroll in due time Smiley
2318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: November 07, 2016, 08:04:22 AM
Absolutely! Putting money in lottery is gambling too. The lottery result is unpredictable.
Very!! Because is a hard game to win, you can only win on it if you are extremely lucky and one win could make you stop gambling for good as the money you can earn will be good to live a comfortable life and even if you will not work anymore you can still live.

Basically that is the reason of the gamblers in lottery..

As what others said, we will be having more chances of getting hit by a lightning than winning on lottery. When the person wins in lottery, he/she is really very lucky person here on earth. I know a friend who has another friend that wins twice in lottery - that guy was really a very lucky guy! Although that guy is already broke now and all of his properties name after his relatives and friends are not returned to him - very sad.
2319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many BTC do you gamble with? on: November 07, 2016, 08:00:55 AM
I place moderated bets in sports betting but I keep some good fund in quick access to be able to use them in case of seeing some real opportunity when I have see chance of arbitrage. I can say I play with 0.10 to 1 BTC and I am of that category. I don't use always all funds and strictly stick to limited funds.

Today, this is my second time to encounter arbitrage in sports betting. It really interest me and will definitely check it out in my free time maybe on the weekend. I am doing sports betting and just bet directly to the platform - I really have no idea about arbitrage betting though that is why it really gets my interest Smiley
2320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: November 07, 2016, 07:58:26 AM
My strtegy is very simple. It is called self control. i strt with .01 anytime i get  more than .001 over that amount i immidieately withdraw that ammount into coinbase. this way, i cant get cocky and gamble away huge orofits! Ehat are you guys opinions on this strat
Well the Stertagy You are Using is Good But Your Way of Earning Money is Not Good....
I am Talking About Gambling, As You Know that Gambling Is a Shit Game Based on Pure Luck and I Never Seen Anyone Who Become Successful By Just Gambling.....
So I Suggest you to Leave Gambling and Do some Other Business.......
Yes I agree.. also have the same thought about this. You're strategy will work for now somehow and it's good for you. but when you start getting a losing streak you're going to curse the game. better do some other business to invest your money. there's no guarantee in winning when you do gambling.

that strategy maybe work for only for few people and not for all people, so i think we should make our strategy so we can get winning like him too. but all in all, thats strategy is work for him and made him a good amount of money.

It's actually a very good strategy. Backed with self control to stop whenever you reach beyond that amount, it a good way to gamble. Although there's no guarantee that you will exceed 0.01 before you stop, having a specific amount allotted to gambling would be a good start to being a responsible gambler

For me, if you are just gambling for fun and entertainment and will stop when your bankroll is gone already (money that you can afford to lose), then there is really no need for self control because you just wanna have some fun after all. Just bet randomly and see if it wins and having fun - but never ever replenish your bankroll when you run out of money on that session Wink
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