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1361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 16, 2017, 02:35:19 PM
I think according to my knowledge the only better way is to go for trading because with trading we can make higher returns with your prediction and analysis. Gambling is always a high-risk investment so we have to be very careful while gambling with your hard money.
maybe if you are a pro trader yes you can utilize your earnings and it lessen the risk of losing your money but if you are a newcomer better to think
wise and start reading information about the system, same with gambling but its really much riskier since its just luck that you are relying on.

Agree if you are a newbie in trading its better to read more about trading and consult a friend or someone that can help you but make it sure that the last decision is still yours. Trading can give us high return but it needs time to learn how to trade.

Although there is really no guarantee of having a winning trade, when your trade is based on market research and technical analysis, you will most likely have more winning trades than losing one. I agree to ask a friend who are already good in trading and start from there.
1362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: August 15, 2017, 03:51:33 AM
At skill-based games like sports betting or poker experience surely matters, otherwise there would be no successful poker pros like Negreanu who won millions.

If you play house edge luck games, the only experience that could matter is to leave when you won a nice amount.  Smiley
You'll grow if you focus on skilled based gambling, one of the best game I played is sports betting but I don't have success in making money
actually, instead I experience the opposite side. I have a lot of experience as I am a long time sports gambler but my experience only help me
to control myself in the event of losing.

The more you know the team, team coaching staff, and team players and as well as each player's status of each competing team, you are most likely will going to win compared to other gamblers that have no idea that one of the team member cannot play due to injury and all of that stuff..
1363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 15, 2017, 03:47:37 AM
I do both most of the time, But prefer trading Bitcoin rather than simply gambling it, considering that trading isn't necessarily a negative house edge game unlike gambling and you can improve the possibilities of profit if you make good enough choices.

Gambling is a  game which depends on luck and house edge etc, while trading is a proper technique and business which involves proper study of the coins , graphs and candles and if trading done properly after experience and research,will give you definite profit. There is no grantee of win in gambling.

In trading, there is really no guarantee of winning trades as well but we are most likely will going to win when we do our research first before trading and having some pre-planned trading - time to enter and time to get out of the market.
1364  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: August 15, 2017, 03:45:37 AM
Investing in Bitcoin casinos is not bad . But I don't prefer to do such a thing. I have rarely seen people who make huge profits by investing in such things. Like if you see the ratio of people who have won and who have lost then you would see most of the people have faced losses compared to profit. It's an addiction , which would lead you to lose all your money. Even i used to bet a lot and I used to win , then I became more greedy which lead to me loosing all my money . Then I decided to quit every such thing and just earn the Normal way in which there is no risk and buying things directly from that money.

Investing in Bitcoin casinos as a business partner is very much effective way to invest and earn. But again i insist on it should be investment in the business and not as a investment as a player. If you invest as a player, there is high chances of loss.

Investing to online casinos like you are partner is less riskier compared to when you play on that gambling casino. The house edge advantage is at your favor so the chances of profit is there but still there is risk involved by this kind of investment though.
1365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 15, 2017, 03:43:29 AM

Earning Bitcoin from gambling is wrong. But to earn bitcoins, we have many ways

It is not wrong but it is very hard to get money from gambling site. Some people can win but perhaps it is better for us not to play for profit. If we want to have some fun then it is good for us to have fun but atleast make sure that you are only using a small amount, and you can afford it
i think it is different from person to person. For some people gambling is not legal according to their religion and state, therefore they are felling shameful while playing gambling, but still there are people who do not consider bitcoin as shameful because they do not have any restriction from their religion and state.

As long as our main goal with gambling is to have fun and only use money that we can afford to lose, then gambling could not be wrong that way - it is just a matter of state of mind and how you see gambling. But only gamble in moderation so you will not get hooked by it.
1366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: August 15, 2017, 03:38:49 AM
Hey Bitcoiners? I'm desperate to start earning BTC
I'll do any kind of online activity as long as there's a Bitcoin payment. Where do I start?
Maybe you should start by joining a signature campaign in this forum. It will helps you a lot to earn more bitcoin but because you are newbie your earning would be low too but when you got ranked up you will earn huge amount too. Just be patient and i think by joining in a signature campaign it will make you more knowledgable about what bitcoin.

joining signature campaign is really one of the best first step to get some hold of bitcoins. This is the easiest way to get bitcoin when you join on signature camapigns.. Although you will also be investing some time to reply but it is a good side income.
1367  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: August 15, 2017, 03:32:47 AM
This depends on our intentions and seriousness, the world is very wide and if we want to think creatively certainly many opportunities that we can get, even with a smartphone we can become a millionaire if we are clever, that is by selling online. The most important thing is we have to be honest so get customer trust.
Right dude ,even a small amount you can be a millionaire there are so many things to do some online buyers and sellers earn now and they only starting with small amounts by dealing flsomewhere and risking their safety byt now has been rewarded because of their perseverance.

Online really gives us a lot of potential ways to earn money - it is just a matter of focus and never jump from one to another. What I a m saying is that, when you know something is working for others, try to emulate and focus on it until you see success and hopefully, you will get rich out of your laser focus efforts and further innovations along the way.
1368  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: August 15, 2017, 03:29:12 AM
Hi guys, may I ask our tenured traders here. I bought four alts last week and it's been a week on trading and alts are really down Sad do you consider time as well? Should I sell these alts already considering the amount of time it's been on the trading site?I am just new with trading and as much as I don't want to panic, I am really afraid that alts will not be recovered in any moment. I just want an honest opinion from our good traders here or any traders here same with my condition?

I want to be open with you guys, alts I bought are NXT, ETH, XRP and DASH. No where I can find any improvement of these alts on the market. I sincerely appreciate your reply guys. Thanks!

I am not a trader expert but I do have a share of advice I can give you based on personal situation at the moment. I also have bought some altcoins few days ago and they are also going down. I decided to hold the line and will not going to sell them for now - I just wait until the price of bitcoin stabilize and everything goes back to normal - this too will pass.. Hold the line! Wink
1369  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 15, 2017, 03:17:16 AM
Gold is a non-renewable resources that can get by nature, while bitcoin can mine through series of staking or trading. I choose to have bitcoin for now then gold later. I think it ends the same Smiley

bitcoin has also a cap of its production to around 21 million bitcoins. Actually, that is a good news because things that are finite are more valuable than infinite. This what makes bitcoin really going high due to its finite in nature.
1370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: August 15, 2017, 03:12:52 AM
There is one strategy with which you can roll only once and it's a guaranteed win chance 80% amount max you win cashout. Second strategy 1% of total bankroll chance 1% roll 100 times you might win once. Last the 50% strategy if you are winning continue playing as soon as you lose twice in a row stop

nice strategy but there is really no guarantee at all due to randomness and house edge advantage rule. I am now playing just for fun and testing some strategies as well and currently doin good - I just want to gauge how long this would go and start from there. I advice to just play with money we can afford to lose and just play for fun and entertainment.
I can guarantee you the 80% will work i have 0.1 and i atarted my test on bitseler with a brand new account and won the first roll i withdrew and tried on crypto games ot worked again tried on bitdice again it successfully worked. In first roll of the account you will never lose but continuously doing will be a loss

You were very lucky then. Wondering what was your win chance and amount of money you bet but nonetheless, the issue is whether or not our first bet is most likely a winner and when we bet further, loses will be eminent. But to be honest, if our win chance is high, then even if our account is new or old, we are most likely will going to win on our first bets but not really all the time though.
1371  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: August 14, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
actually not yet if you have enough knowledge about trading I think its predicable.

Nah I don't think so. Trading is a 50-50 chance. 50% that you're right in your prediction, 50% that you're wrong.
Yeah we can analyze the graph and the market but we can't control what will really happen. If someone can really predict he's so damn lucky and rich. As for me, when I trade I just put a bench mark in everything. Like if the coin reach that level then I will definitely sell it.
As described trading is always a 50-50 chance, but for the one with good capital and market predictors its an easy go. Else it's going to be highly risky and to make a profit patience to wait till the next price pumping happens is required. For this it's good to invest into coins at times and just withdraw the profit at the earliest.


There are quite number of cryptocurrency investors out there who buy cheap altcoins and just hold and open a sell position with a good amount of gain. They have patience to wait and just never mind what is happening in the market because they believe that one of these days, some sharks will do a big pump or there will be some high demand in the market.
1372  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: August 14, 2017, 04:06:09 PM
What are the things to do to succeed in trade? What are you doing to make your business bigger?
How can we make more money?
To be a successful trader you should have patience, ability learn different techniques ,get some ideas on pro traders. What im doing with my bussiness is i treat my business the way i treat my family,i love my family so is my business. Make your business bigger and bigger it can give you more money.

It seems that you are correct. For you us to become a successful trader the main thing that we must have is patience. If we have a patience, for sure we can hold our coins for a long time and we can make many money.
Yes, patience is the must with bitcoin as well other digital currencies. As mentioned making more money through trading is the best, but to be successful in trading all that required is a good analysing mind and predict the price variations happening with respect to time.

patience really is a good virtue in trading and in any investment. But we must also well remember that time is gold as well. Hence, everything comes to him/her who hustles while he/she waits. When there is a good volatility, you can make a buy timing to the market to gain some profits.
1373  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 14, 2017, 04:03:48 PM
The best is definitely mining. If you have a very little knowledge about it, simply point your ASICs to a pool and wait for the bitcoins to come in your wallet.

If you have a high capital to invest to your mining rig, then mining might be good for you but if you don't have that high investment and technologies, it would be very hard to compete to other big miners out there nowadays.
1374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: August 14, 2017, 03:58:14 PM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?
I think the reason behind why people addicted in gambling is the prize and they know that by playing in gambling will help them to get more income easily and instantly. In addition to that, some people are too greedy in playing gambling and they lose a huge amount of money and bitcoin. They get addicted in gambling because they know that they can make easy money. However, playing in gambling doesn’t make you rich.

people is curious with the prize and they still playing although they know that they can lose all the money. for the first time, people is not thinking that playing gambling can get them into addicting but later if they have playing gambling in many times, then i am sure they will become an addicting gamblers.

Addiction is a much difficult to understand. Its not only about gambling. There is an addiction to a lot of different things such as cigaretes, Alcohol, etc.
Addiction is coming from the brain. There are people that are tend to addict more than others.

When you are that person who tends to get easily addicted to things that you are doing and you like, you should avoid at all cost activities or vices that is obviously prone to be addicted to it. It is us ourselves, who know very well our weakness and we should only focus on our strength.
There is no room for people who are weak here, gambling is only for discipline people who are responsible enough to understand its chances and has th capacity to bet what he can afford to lose. Whether we make a lot of excuses we still cannot deny that gambling requires money and there is a big risk involved when money is required to play the game. We can tell if we are weak or not and we should be honest to ourselves.

Correct, and the more honest we are to ourselves, the more we can have the right decision as to whether or not we are going to gamble, invest, or trade, or none at all. We should be the very first person who knows our risk appetite and we start from there.
1375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: August 14, 2017, 03:43:12 PM
If winning in gamble means to make profit. And if lost, is for fun because 'for fun' is most appropriate word to entertain yourself, isn't it? Big or small balance i use to gamble, profit is goal.
You can set your goal as per your preferences in this free world but the catch must be, what you are getting from gambling. I believe all the gamblers who are into gambling just for the reason of making profits will face only losses as gambling will work in that way alone. It would be much better not to gamble than aiming for profits.

In other words, gambling should not be viewed as for profits only - it should be for fun and entertainment and to relieve stresses in life. However, the moment we make it as our source of income and put all of our emotions to it, then that is quite dangerous.
it will be near to an addiction and that's the problem by most of the people who treat gambling as their main source of income because of their desire to keep on winning and aiming to increase their earnings from time to time much better to think of it as balance both aim to win and to enjoy just like what many of us here that knows how to  balance.

You are right mate. that is also a good approach but need to really have a strong self discipline and control in order to not fall with rage betting and greediness along the way.
1376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 14, 2017, 03:20:04 PM
I prefer trading for making money, because there you can analyze the exact profit, and gambling I use only for entertainment, but if I'm lucky, I too can make a profit.

This is really how we best do it, gambling to have fun and when we win, it is an added bonus from having a good time. With regards to trading, we can really have that extra edge in gaining profits through market analysis and current news.
1377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 14, 2017, 03:16:29 PM

Earning Bitcoin from gambling is wrong. But to earn bitcoins, we have many ways

It is not wrong but it is very hard to get money from gambling site. Some people can win but perhaps it is better for us not to play for profit. If we want to have some fun then it is good for us to have fun but atleast make sure that you are only using a small amount, and you can afford it

You are right - gambling is really not bad if done in moderation and for the purpose of entertainment. Some people make it as a stress reliever after a hard day work and it works well for them. As long as you are playing for fun with the money you can really afford to lose then, there is really nothing bad about it.
1378  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: August 14, 2017, 03:02:56 PM
Investing in Bitcoin casinos is not bad . But I don't prefer to do such a thing. I have rarely seen people who make huge profits by investing in such things. Like if you see the ratio of people who have won and who have lost then you would see most of the people have faced losses compared to profit. It's an addiction , which would lead you to lose all your money. Even i used to bet a lot and I used to win , then I became more greedy which lead to me loosing all my money . Then I decided to quit every such thing and just earn the Normal way in which there is no risk and buying things directly from that money.

Investing to casinos, whether it is for online or offline, is really not like gambling because you are investing as if you are part owner of the casino where you have more chances of winning than losing due to house edge. Although there is a corresponding risk as well.
1379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 14, 2017, 02:58:58 PM
No gambling can never be profitable in long term as if you continue to gamble then you will surely be loosing all the money you have won so far so the best thing would be to quit gambling at a right time when you have won good amount of money.

I do not think also we can make a profit in a long time because if you win in a day of gambling, it will be very hard to earn the next day, so we should see it as entertainment, if you see it as a profession, you both praise yourself and your money.

Gambling is profitable for short time because if you bet and win you have profit in that instant. There is no assurance that you can win every bet because gambling is about winning and losing. I do not think that it is possible to get profit in gambling for long time. Every player must set limitations on the amount to bet and must control oneself in time of winning even losing.

The more riskier it is, the more gain it has - this is so true with gambling where the risk is really quite high but if you win, you will going to win quite high as well in just a short period of time.
1380  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: August 14, 2017, 02:57:14 PM
as i am a newbie.. i know nothing about trading... what should i do to start trading and multiply my btc.. guys please help me

You can get more bitcoins through joining signature campaigns, But if you really want to pursue trading then you really need to do a lot of research. There's a lot of user's here that is well known for trading, ask reliable users here that has a high rank to give you good advice. But for me i advice you to join signature campaigns while your'e starting then invest in building a mining rig. You research on google everything about that, Bitcoin mining now a days is one of the mainstream to earn coins, its the best way to earn passively while waiting for your coins to rise up when you already start trading or buying coins.
Yeah. You can get many bitcoins by joining in some signature campaign. I agree also to you that the trading is more profitable than the signature campaign.
How would that possible? Signature campaign does not give enough reward to earn more bitcoins, maybe it will take a lot of time
for you like years in order to make a lot of bitcoin. What is a lot for you by the way?, because we have different definition of a lot, be specific.

I agree that when in terms to number of bitcoins, it will take some time when done with signature campaign. However, for the new people in bitcoin industry, that is the best advice we can give them to starte getting some bitcoin for their selves.
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