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1341  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 20, 2017, 01:59:59 AM
Look for little jobs, that are paid in bitcoin. Then hold a part in bitcoin and buy additional a portfolio of well known altcoins. Then hold these cryptocurrencies on longterm. And don't buy pizza with bitcoin Smiley
First holding bitcoin will not give you a steady income, and secondly payjob earnings can not stay because you can not keep getting a job every day or every week right? I think one of the methods to earn a steady income is by signature campaign

I think, there is really no assurance in all things in this world and as they have said, the only certain thing in life is death. That is why, if we just play our cards right and we find ways to mitigate risk and earn through day jobs with lots of side income or what they called multiple streams of income, we are good to go.
1342  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: August 20, 2017, 01:58:02 AM
hard work give you profit in trading like in real life
Exactly if you do hard work, you will get profit. If trading is predictable, then no people will work to make money everyone will start to do trading. This is an unpredictable and risky job so many people scared to do trading. Here if you have patience you will make a profit, if you are a greedy person and not control your emotions then you will lose your money to do the panic selling.

Aside from losing that money, you may also lose your temper and sanity. However, you can well safeguard your self and emotions by clearing your mind and stick to the strategy you are using - no emotions only base on pre-planned strategies.
1343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 20, 2017, 01:55:30 AM
Gambling can be a profitable in a long term period if you’re patient enough but $50-$100 everyday is a tad bit impossible. There are gambling games that will earn you serious dough tho. If you have the skills and discipline then you can make a profit off of it. It can be profitable in long term as long as you’re winning more than losing. But I think you’re better off finding a stable job, that is the epitome, I think, of profitable in long term.

Can you tell me how you are able to do that. The game are designed to make you lose so how can you overcome that probability. If you are telling me some strategy like double your bet, then you are so wrong in the first place. It is possible to win like 0.1% or 1% or even 10% of your base in day and you can win for days, however when you lose, you will lose a lot more than what you win. That is why in the long run, people are losing and casino is winning.
Casinos are not our friends. They try to keep their players in gambling while they are the ones who actually make long term profits. All the games are designed to snatch our money from our pockets. They let us win at times because this is the bit they throw to keep gamblers interest.

For me, what I see with casinos is that, they just cater for our entertainment and fun through betting and in return, they will be going to profit and that profit is safeguarded by the house edge advantage. Now, the key here is fun and entertainment - so that the loss will not be that painful.
1344  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: August 20, 2017, 01:48:04 AM
In my experience most of the time I panie c myself and end with loose. after 3years of trading experience now I just relax for a while and deside what to do then make decision what next move to be.

Emotions change when you won and when you loose depend upon the wining and loosing.


Experience will really help you because if you know how the market move then for sure you will never panic, when you panic that could be the end of your journey as that means you do not trust your decision to invest on bitcoin. Knowing that bitcoin's price is volatile should already understand that anytime price swings can happen and instead of feeling the pressure, let's relax and wait for the pump.
Yeah man, experience is all that matters. And we all know that we learn from experience. And more important thing that is needed to learn to control emotions is facing difficulties. If you don’t go through any kind of downs then how are you supposed to learn anything about it. And your way to overcome is also impressive. Waiting for right time and keeping patience is an exercise to control your emotions.

Emotions really plays a vital role in our trading - I know and I can relate well where we think that we can no longer recover from our loses but I keep reminding my self that it is not yet the end of the world and there will still be people that will going to invest and the price of altcoins will go ack up again.
1345  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 20, 2017, 01:40:24 AM
No way to do an easy money in gambling. And the usual way is betting or rolling on the dice and wait for your fortune and shows up "win" that's the easiest way.
Gambling relies too heavily on luck and there is definitely no easy way in gambling because luck comes and goes to us as they please. Luck can not be predicted when it will come to us, luck can come anytime. Sometimes luck does not come when we really need them.

It's like you can win an easy win once in a blue moon. But there are times that gamblers will win an instant easy win but it will be recovered again when they gamble and will be losing from their bets. This is the life in gambling, the path is really unreliable and no one can tell you a definite way of winning with an easy way.

When you get lucky and win big, stop - that is the key there. Because if you still play on and become greedy, you will eventually lose as the house edge advantage will going to play against you sooner or later but it will come.
1346  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: August 20, 2017, 01:33:05 AM
I think the banks will not go away. If it goes away, a large amount of traditional money will go to where. So the government will never let the banks disappear and instead the banks will accept bitcoin. People can send and withdraw bitcoin in the bank. So I think bitcoin can not make the bank disappear that it will together develop

Certainly. Because bank makes every commercial transaction and savings in order. They are well regulated to safeguard depositors and investors - if banks will disappear, there will be chaos and when that chaos happens, bitcoin is the ideal thing to have but it is really far from happening.
1347  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: August 20, 2017, 01:31:08 AM
One thing I would like to talk about is that when I see low fees, I tend to send more transactions. Now when I see fees too high, I tend to wait and wait for a one bigger transaction.

When we do not really need the money and that we can cover our expenses with our fiat money, it would be wise not to use bitcoin with this scenario and you can getaway with he transaction fees. However, if you want to trade, then you have to decide and target gain that covers also the expenses.
1348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 20, 2017, 01:22:03 AM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin

Well, it all depends on your luck. Gambling is based on knowledge, skills, and most likely pure luck. And, I think some people are not just born as gambler. I have a friend of mine who really likes gambling but loses almost all of the time. I've watched him play cards before, but if he has a good deck of cards there's always someone who has better. So, I think he is unlucky.

Luck really plays a role in gambling except to those games that requires skill and the chance is even and there is no house edge advantage. That is why it is better to play just for fun and entertainment versus playing for profit with money you can't afford to lose.
1349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: August 19, 2017, 12:29:09 PM
There is no strategy to win in dice  and the one who tells you the opposite lies you everything depends on your luck

But we can use the trick to reduce the risk of losing the dice gambling game. Now there are so many ways to use the trick. Let alone gambling dice. Almost everyone loves it

No doubt, dice game, everyone like it, but i don't think that we use many tricks here in dice.
It is simple game, where you have no choice to use tricks and strategies.
Also i see mostly different videos in YouTube, but i don't think that these strategies work on dice.
However, i quit all strategies in dice and simply i play it with rely on luck.

yeah, strategies on dice doesn't really will going to last in a longer period of time. You can win at it but the winning is not enough and so you will going to stay betting until you will hit by long line od reds and before you knew it, you bankroll is depleted already.
1350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: August 19, 2017, 03:13:13 AM
There is one strategy with which you can roll only once and it's a guaranteed win chance 80% amount max you win cashout. Second strategy 1% of total bankroll chance 1% roll 100 times you might win once. Last the 50% strategy if you are winning continue playing as soon as you lose twice in a row stop

nice strategy but there is really no guarantee at all due to randomness and house edge advantage rule. I am now playing just for fun and testing some strategies as well and currently doin good - I just want to gauge how long this would go and start from there. I advice to just play with money we can afford to lose and just play for fun and entertainment.
I can guarantee you the 80% will work i have 0.1 and i atarted my test on bitseler with a brand new account and won the first roll i withdrew and tried on crypto games ot worked again tried on bitdice again it successfully worked. In first roll of the account you will never lose but continuously doing will be a loss

You were very lucky then. Wondering what was your win chance and amount of money you bet but nonetheless, the issue is whether or not our first bet is most likely a winner and when we bet further, loses will be eminent. But to be honest, if our win chance is high, then even if our account is new or old, we are most likely will going to win on our first bets but not really all the time though.
Wow kinda amazing, I never heard such a strategy like this. Well I am not really sure that gambling could guarantee you a win, for me it is really unpredictable, and aside from that you wont know unless you try and risk some amounts to gamble. Anyway I wanna try it sometime if it will be effective for me, it really sounds awesome. Still you were so lucky to win.
It's scary to do the 80% chance just to try this strategy i think if you are willing to lose an amount that would lead to a greater outcome then you are welcome to try in my opinion. It's your money no one else should have control over it just you. Whatever it takes it's really scary if you don't have that kind of money

There is really a good strategy that withstand long term betting and can bet the house edge advantage. Of course, there are few out there who will be lucky though but not all of the time because casinos are built to make a profit.
1351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: August 19, 2017, 02:15:56 AM
If there’s a greed on money there’s criminality that can happen. It is present everywhere because of the greed of the people for money.  They are not contented on the money they have or they want an easy money but don’t want to work hard to earn it. Bitcoin can be earned by working hard but if you have a higher rank it can be much easier than the beginners but criminality still exist on this because of their greed.

greed is one of the many factors why people tend to do some illegal means in or der to accumulate more money than they needed to. This is really bad especially when the result of that illegal transactions would mean to harm other people's health, life, or future.
1352  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: August 17, 2017, 07:17:16 AM
It would depend on where you will invest it and when. Also, consider this as also gambling. You're just gambling on the other side of the coin. It would still depend on your luck, but you have a better chance of earning versus gambler members of the site. Because in the long-run, the house will always win over the players.  Cool

You will have the house edge advantage when you are investing with the house/casinos. Just bear in mind though that there are some instances where your bankroll will be on the negative because someone, a shark they called them, are lucky and winning a ton.
1353  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 17, 2017, 07:14:59 AM
I'm surprised how many people chose gold on a btc forum. Gold seems like a pretty crappy "investment", more like a hedge against collapse. Is it going to appreciate by 10% a year? I'd chose stocks and bitcoin.

Gold is a good investment and if you buy physical gold versus stocks, you have a sense of ownership. But yes, I agree that bitcoin is a good investment at the moment - at least for short term investing because its price can rapidly grow before our very eyes.
1354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 17, 2017, 07:12:54 AM
Lets look from another angle. Both win profit, yes. Both have risk, yes. Then what the catch.

Trading need goo perception and knowledge about market and stocks, from every single news good or bad. Good and right moment can bring fortune but bad bring opposite.
Gambling always same odds technically speaking, 50-50, win lose. Dont want to explain every games and aspect but you will all agree that both have risk and both made profit.


Yeah both let's you earn money and both have risk, but gambling is much easier and faster, thus gambling have much higher risk to lose your money than trading. In trading you rely on yourself more than luck, as you can try to predict, you can check history of coins and such, while in gambling all you have to do is to place your bets and hope that you will win.

Trading is also a fun and cool endeavor to some and a very stressing to others. At the end of the day, we should go to where we are most comfortable whether it may be with gambling, trading, or something else. We should strive to be happy
1355  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: August 17, 2017, 07:09:56 AM
There are plenty of methods apart from the signature campaigns to earn Bitcoins without any initial investment. But everything will depend upon your skills. A normal data mining job can earn you $2 to $4 per hour, depending on your efficiency. If your English is good, then you can earn $5+ per hour in content creation jobs. If you know coding/programming, then you can earn many times that amount. Later, you can convert this amount to BTC.

I agree that there are many things to do in order to earn online and when you can earn fiat money, you can easily convert it to bitcoin. You can also arrange with your employer to pay you with bitcoin instead of fiat money.
1356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 17, 2017, 07:04:53 AM
Yes. With skill, sports betting and poker may be able to bring profit in the long-run. Provided you know what you're doing.

That is the key - we should know what we are doing. There is really no guarantee as well that we will always gonna win with games that involve skill but if we are knowledgeable enough and skilled, we are more going to win than lose.
1357  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 16, 2017, 02:44:32 PM
Why not. If we really do it with targeted with low profit, i think it could. In fact, gains in gambling faster than trading. It's just, in fact gamblers always want to immediately achieve a huge profit, that's greedy mental.

Gambling becomes a profitable thing for the long term is not an impossible thing, but it is a very difficult thing. The level of difficulty even makes people think it is impossible. Gambling relies heavily on luck, and luck that comes continuously in the long run is almost impossible...

If the game you are playing is based on pure luck, I think the more you play, the more the house edge advantage is at play against you. Better do long term with gambling that requires skills like poker than playing with a game founded by pure luck.
1358  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: August 16, 2017, 02:42:36 PM
I don't think bitcoins would make banks disappear completely rather make them less important in the future, because government owned the banks.
Governments made their money through these banks and Government will hold on to them until the end of time. Without banks there will be no "central bank" in any country. Government gave loans to the banks from "Central Bank", so that the banks can give it to the masses with high interest. Banks are government pets, so they're both milking the masses. And also People pay government bills through banks where they'll get teller or receipt as a proof of payment from bank. How do you think this would be implemented with the government, anyway???    

fiat is regulated by the government and that is what it makes somehow safeguarded and already became an institution. Without fiat money, government will be having hard time to control its economy and may lead to chaos. However, the emerging of bitcoin is just an alternative for people to use and invest with it and not necessarily replace the banks..
1359  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 16, 2017, 02:39:32 PM
The demand for gold seems to have slowed down, especially in the emerging nations such as China and India. A few years back, analysts were predicting prices of up to $5,000 per oz. by 2020. Now it seems like they are less optimistic about gold.

That is right and I think most of the gold investors are already now also in bitcoin and investing some parts of their profits. The latter is good for short term gains while the former is for a long term goal.
1360  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 16, 2017, 02:37:47 PM
For me its for sure signature, im being able to use my signature income to invest into altcoins, some of them had returned  me already good profits, and others made me loose some satoshis, the thing is with bitcoin riding its very hard to make a good investment since price up of bitcoin and altcoins crash, at the moment holding bitcoin till segwit storm ends looks a nice way to avoid a loss.

You are wise in using your signature campaign earnings to trading - this is really one of the best ways to do in order to grow your bitcoins versus just holding it.. Although it is not really advisable to people that are still new to no experienced with trading because there some risk and that you could lose.
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