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2341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 11, 2016, 12:07:07 AM

--o-o--

Nice rant.

I think you just made his case for him better than he did  Wink

You would think something stupid like that. But back to the instamine.....

2 million is what percentage of the current dash emission?
2342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 11:57:29 PM

That doesn't refute anything, but thanks for reading my guide. Maybe it will work on people who don't see it for the desperate attempt to distract that it is--

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14472374#msg14472374

"#1. No matter how dire the warning from those technobabling nerds sound, they can be easily refuted with one word--JEALOUSY. Say it often and say it proud and don't let their theoretical arguments get in the way of you and your rightful shitcoin future. If they tell you the algowhateverthingy is broken, say "These blankcoin motherfuckers have been saying that for months and look, our coin is still alive and stronger than ever! They're just jealous that (our coin is ahead of them on coinmarketcap.com) or (our coin has twice the innovation as that has-been and every day we're eating into their market cap)." If you can work SCARED and JEALOUS into the same post, all the better."
2343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 11:48:51 PM

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A scam requires VICTIMS.

In fact it doesn't, only a successful one does.

This is getting hilarious.

Hope you guys are getting well paid for your time.

So a scam with no victims is now an unsuccessful scam.

I'll need to work that one out - kind of reminds me of doing imaginary numbers in math  Cheesy

I know it is tough, but here's a example to simplify it for you. I create a company that promises trips to mars, but we have no ships, no plans, no way to get anyone there, but we create ads that make that promise--though all are internal data shows we can't and won't pursue that end. TV companies preview the ads and report us to the FBI, they investigate and put us in jail for running a scam.

By your logic, I could just plead not guilty by way of no victims. Thankfully the courts, the investigators, and most everyone else doesn't use shitcoin logic.

Wrong. No crime has been committed. If you ran to court with this they would arrest you for wasting their time. Any idiot can run any ad they want, as long as they take nobody's money no crime has been committed. This isn't Minority Report, this is the real world, wannabe Blade Runner. An even more pathetic attempt than smooth's to distract from the fact that Dash as ZERO victims and is thus NO scam.

Plus this bullshit example doesn't even remotely apply to Dash because it's an existent and working product, no matter how much you hate that irrefutable fact.

False Advertising

"Any advertising or promotion that misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities or geographic origin of goods, services or commercial activities" (Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C.A. § 1125(a)).

Proof Requirement

To establish that an advertisement is false, a plaintiff must prove five things: (1) a false statement of fact has been made about the advertiser's own or another person's goods, services, or commercial activity; (2) the statement either deceives or has the potential to deceive a substantial portion of its targeted audience; (3) the deception is also likely to affect the purchasing decisions of its audience; (4) the advertising involves goods or services in interstate commerce; and (5) the deception has either resulted in or is likely to result in injury to the plaintiff. The most heavily weighed factor is the advertisement's potential to injure a customer. The injury is usually attributed to money the consumer lost through a purchase that would not have been made had the advertisement not been misleading. False statements can be defined in two ways: those that are false on their face and those that are implicitly false."

"Failure to Disclose It is considered false advertising under the Lanham Act if a representation is "untrue as a result of the failure to disclose a material fact." Therefore, false advertising can come from both misstatements and partially correct statements that are misleading because they do not disclose something the consumer should know. The Trademark Law Revision Act of 1988, which added several amendments to the Lanham Act, left creation of the line between sufficient and insufficient disclosure to the discretion of the courts."

Maybe tomorrow I'll look up some cases of where intent alone resulted in a conviction, but you better believe that if I was selling million dollar plus mar's trips, I wouldn't need to take a dime to get investigated and punished--though it's more likely once you take money. But based on descriptions of people leaving dash after they found out about the instamine, someone was scammed by dash and their media stating "no premine, fairly and transparently launched."
2344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 11:38:03 PM
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A scam requires VICTIMS.

In fact it doesn't, only a successful one does.

44 Million USD marketcap and 6-7 USD per coin sure sounds like an "unsuccessful" "scam".

Does anyone take this guy serious anymore after this? Pathetic tactic to avoid actually owning up to the fact that Dash has ZERO victims.

Has your media updated that 2million coins were mined in the first day? If it's still advertised as"fairly and transparently launched" and doesn't mention the emission change and the amount instamined, it's a scam. But judging by the flack this thread gets, I doubt the dash community is up to owning up to their past.
2345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 11:28:49 PM
The Dash insiders are well aware that investors still care about the instamine

This issue has been settled with finality by the community over 2 years ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559932.0

The only people "caring" are Monero trolls. And that's a fact.

Why is it that everywhere you look a "dash scam" thread, there is a Monero troll behind it? Competitive reasons.


Again, shitcoin logic:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14472374#msg14472374
2346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 11:25:50 PM

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A scam requires VICTIMS.

In fact it doesn't, only a successful one does.

This is getting hilarious.

Hope you guys are getting well paid for your time.

So a scam with no victims is now an unsuccessful scam.

I'll need to work that one out - kind of reminds me of doing imaginary numbers in math  Cheesy

I know it is tough, but here's a example to simplify it for you. I create a company that promises trips to mars, but we have no ships, no plans, no way to get anyone there, but we create ads that make that promise--though all are internal data shows we can't and won't pursue that end. TV companies preview the ads and report us to the FBI, they investigate and put us in jail for running a scam.

By your logic, I could just plead not guilty by way of no victims. Thankfully the courts, the investigators, and most everyone else doesn't use shitcoin logic.
2347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 09:55:03 PM
How many BTC were mined in the first 24 hours?

How many XMR were mined in the first 24 hours?

How many dash were mined in the first 24 hours?

Is this the only thing you are interested? A blockchain explorer can tell you that, you don't need me, or anyone else to tell you the number of coins.

I'm just amazed that a dozen or so dashers can't answer a simple question. Will you melt or something? Why is it such a big deal to answer?

The answer is ~2mn for XCO, I haven't looked into XMR or BTC, but I suspect BTC would be close to 7200.


Thank you. 2 million dash mined in the first 24hours without an ICO or any other planned mass early distribution--this is why no one but a few dashers buys any of the numbers provided for dash's supposed redistribution. Dash started under a cloud of suspicious activity and it will follow it until it falls of the shitcoin cliff.

What's funny is that the only way to remove the cloud of suspicion is to make it even more transparent than it already is--thanks to a second rate anonymity scheme. Maybe you can attach an IP to every coin or something?
2348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 09:30:19 PM
How many BTC were mined in the first 24 hours?

How many XMR were mined in the first 24 hours?

How many dash were mined in the first 24 hours?

Is this the only thing you are interested? A blockchain explorer can tell you that, you don't need me, or anyone else to tell you the number of coins.

I'm just amazed that a dozen or so dashers can't answer a simple question. Will you melt or something? Why is it such a big deal to answer?
2349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 09:23:54 PM
Yes, you wrote entire chapters but you were too busy speculating about imaginary non-distribution than actually sending a couple of emails to ccex, poloniex etc to learn about the actual facts. And then you come here playing detective... lol.

If you have evidence, show your sources (as I did in the OP, and continue to add when I get around to editing).

What you (plural) are doing is simple:

a) Your "facts" are conjecture and presented as evidence.

b) The actual facts of the other side are downgraded as fiction and the bar of proof is set to an unreachable level (with requirements like "if you can't tell me where every single coin went, and who owns what, then you haven't proven anything).

c) Actual evidence (witnesses, testimonials, trading on third platforms, blockchain) is untouched because it serves (a).

Maybe I'm asking the wrong guys. You seem concerned with truth, so here are the questions I can't get answered on the dash-shill thread:

How many BTC were mined in the first 24 hours?

How many XMR were mined in the first 24 hours?

How many dash were mined in the first 24 hours?

Just want to check if there are special numbers that the dash community has that no one else does--I mean how else could they claim "decentralization" and "fairly launched" unless the numbers I have are wrong, right?
2350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 09:10:00 PM

Given the second prepositional phrase begins where the ellipsis begins, it's tough to tell what you mean.

I always suspected you were a bot.

I'll need to get myself one of those - sure would save me some time on threads like these  Wink

A bot that analyzes grammar and faulty statements made by shitcoiners? I should be on the cover of Time.
2351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 09:02:27 PM

Is that a sentence?

I might have missed the full stop out. Punctuation's never been my strong point  Smiley


No, it's the two prepositional phrases in a row that reads awkward. Did you mean, "Well, for a start, you're always at our service" Which is still awkward as the reader has to fill in the ellipsis (the unstated "at our service....to show the facts?). Given the second prepositional phrase begins where the ellipsis begins, it's tough to tell what you mean.
2352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 08:50:56 PM

How can they when the dash media hides the facts?

Well, you're always at our service for a start  Wink



Is that a sentence?
2353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 08:42:33 PM

you are continuing to mislead and defraud investors

Perhaps the investors should have the last word on who's "misleading" and "defrauding" them  Wink




How can they when the dash media hides the facts? Maybe we shouldn't trust wolves to guard the hen house?
2354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash: The Future Internet Of Money? on: April 10, 2016, 08:39:36 PM
sorry Lucas_Jackson, i'm not sure he saw it / them

Anyways, the future is looking bright for Dash .. so many things set in motion, next few months will get interesting.

Bigger isn't always better--for her, yes. For instamined coins trying to claim decentralization, not so much.

2355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash: The Future Internet Of Money? on: April 10, 2016, 08:19:49 PM
Can someone quote him? He could answer that easy question and I can't see it Roll Eyes

Nope, I asked you guys so you can have the epiphany that dash isn't decentralized enough to be the future of money. Go on, you can see for yourself. No fun if I just show you the obvious.

How many BTC were mined in the first 24 hours? ___ <-- a number goes here

How many XMR were mined in the first 24 hours? ___<-- a number goes here

How many dash were mined in the first 24 hours? ____________________ <-- a number goes here
2356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 10, 2016, 08:14:50 PM
I don't see it going down to 0.001 anymore. The volume in the recent run was far too large to suddenly (or even protractedly) allow going back to such low levels. There is also a massive historical support in 0.0018 and up, so I'd be pretty content to buy here if the portfolio can bear more XMR. The emission is constantly shrinking, so it is faulty to compare current situation to the previous valley in 0.001s.

Also it's good to consider that the runup took weeks and was very careful. The sudden crash to 0.002 just screams a short-term reaction back up, so if selling is the intent, hold your horses, you'll get a better price for sure from the normal oscillation, no matter where the price is heading mid-term.

My feeling is overall quite positive, and the probability that the uptrend will continue despite the carnage of the last days is high in my opinion.

Longer term, the probability of negative scenarios is larger than that of the positive, but this is more than made up with the obscene upside in the positive scenarios, compared to the meager downside even in the most negative ones (-100%).

I see you here whenever Monero takes a dump, are you a big P&D whale here?

I think this coin is being dumped by the same people who develop it like FluffyPony & Othe after all Othe gets 21800 Monero alone from Fluffypony's gambling site as the biggest winner there. This is what you get when your own developers play the pump & dump like twice a year doubling their BTC stack on pure speculation hype threads like this one.

Can you point to a single thread where fluffy pony is pumping Monero in any way?

He reverse pumps Monero. Telling people not to invest in it, so they naturally mortgage their house to buy some Monero. 
2357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 08:05:13 PM
So, you can verify that those aren't people selling to themselves?

If I say yes it won't matter. You have made up your mind (as a biased monero investor who perceives darkcoin as a threat to their investment).

Son, I wrote the guide to the Shitcoin Logic you're trying to use here. Come back when you've got a new chapter for me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14472374#msg14472374
2358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash: The Future Internet Of Money? on: April 10, 2016, 08:02:09 PM
i wish people would stop using copy & paste, its such a waste of a good opportunity to use one's brain intellectually.

And I wish people wouldn't be naïve, gullible, stupid, ethically challenged, or avoid answering easy questions. But thanks for tipping me off that you dislike the way the questions are framed. So no need to waste time rewriting.
2359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash: The Future Internet Of Money? on: April 10, 2016, 07:54:36 PM
I'm starting to sense a pattern. Readers, can you see it? The same individuals, repeating the same mantra, intending that if they say it enough times, you might actually take it as fact. These individuals have been allowed to do this for two years.

The facts are the facts.

The instamine happened.

Great technology happened.

A great team assembled.

Dash Nation was created.

A path to being the true digital cash Satoshi envisioned was laid out.

And that's where we are today. The school-boy bullies will try to bamboozle you with their spin and innuendo. Don't fall for it. Do your own research and see what I've been maintaining all through this thread and on the OP.

I have to go for a while, so the bullies may take this opportunity to try and change the narrative, but I'll be back.

Kind regards,

Tao (Dash Nation Campaign Founder)

www.dash.org

www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation

https://DashTalk.org



I see a pattern of ignoring the facts that inconvenience your narrative. Satoshi laid out a plan for decentralized money, dash didn't, doesn't and never will. Please answer the questions I've asked over and over and over again, to see why:

 
How many BTC were mined in the first 24 hours? ___ <-- a number goes here

How many XMR were mined in the first 24 hours? ___<-- a number goes here

How many dash were mined in the first 24 hours? ____________________ <-- a number goes here

Anyone paying attention to this thread will notice these questions haven't (and probably never will be) answered in a direct manner, and they will also realize that that is because the answers ruin the illusion that dash can be anything more than a speculator's hub for bamboozling greater fools.
2360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 10, 2016, 07:47:42 PM
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I guess, you could say the coins were redistributed, but that can't be verified

Not sure if serious Roll Eyes

https://bitinfocharts.com/visualization/Darkcoin-7439x2976.png

....the most gullible and naïve among us.

So, you can verify that those aren't people selling to themselves or moving coins between their own wallets? Again, given the circumstances of the launch, you'd have to verify against manipulation. Be gullible and naïve on your own time.
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