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1461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: January 17, 2017, 04:45:46 PM
Any players associated or friendly with an exchange? We have an tradable asset, so the next rational step would be to get it listed somewhere.  Given the market cap is >1 million and this would allow those who aren't into mmorpgs or have the time to invest to learn a game as complex as CK the broadest coverage of CryptoKingdom's land, collectibles, consumables and in-game assets, it seems like a no-brainer. 

As far as gameplay meeting life in this instance, the man or woman or order who does this, would be a Hero in the realm and deserve an honor befitting the result, so my imagination is piqued and would like the challenge of making the reward meet, or even outdo, the blessing this accomplishment would bring to all those who fly the CK banner.

HMC_
1462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [POLL]Monero-Will There Be One Big Exit Dump-Or Is It Going To Die a Slow Death on: January 15, 2017, 09:46:43 PM
Shill comments getting more desperate by the hour.
Interesting how these mob plays mostly attract the most stupid bunch of people.
The chart comparison is amazing, we are just about to enter the capitulation phase now.


Quoting for posterity. We'll see who has the most stupid stupidest crowd.

BTW, are you refuting the inclusion of institutional investors in the hype cycle or does insulting people take care of that glaring omission--
1463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [POLL]Monero-Will There Be One Big Exit Dump-Or Is It Going To Die a Slow Death on: January 15, 2017, 07:38:04 PM
Here is something to think about :

Bitcoin Crashed! Now What?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL52ywnhfT8

Interesting view, specially the 7 steps in a market cycle that Chris Dunn talks about and which can apply to any cryptocurrency
or altcoin (including Monero).

And this picture pretty much visualize it :



This is where Monero is currently at : https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/xmrbtc/1w



I leave it up to you readers to figure out where Monero is heading ....  


Funny thing is how you missed "institutional investors" on the white chart--or are you implying Monero has had a period of institutional investing Huh
1464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the benefit of starting a Coin without any ICO? on: January 15, 2017, 03:40:27 PM
When a coin is launched fairly then a dev can go and mine / buy the coin etc like any other person.
..like Satoshi did.

There is no need for a rigged coin system.

I partly agree.

However, I am not that sure that btc launch was fair. Just look the amount of coins satoshi has...

That's not due to an unfair launch, it just turned out to be an unfair outcome to latecomers due to circumstances outside the developer's controls--mainly it was a small group of people that understood the technology and an even smaller group who put value on that technogy--can't blame the launch for that or the amount of time it took more people to get it. I guess satoshi could donate the funds to some sort of airdrop, but that will likely create metadata that can be linked backed to him or the group that uses the pseudonym--to use a cliché: it is what it is.
1465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the benefit of starting a Coin without any ICO? on: January 14, 2017, 04:08:28 PM
I have saw a number of Coins which do not have any ICO can I know what are they starting for? Is there any benefit to the Developer with that coin? Or they just start it as their hobby?

You mean the Satoshi model? It legitimizes the opensource nature of Devs who care about such things.
1466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [POLL]Monero-Will There Be One Big Exit Dump-Or Is It Going To Die a Slow Death on: January 13, 2017, 10:14:42 PM
Looks bad for Monero. Theres only one big shark behind the sustained mega pump, that much is known.
Its all so obvious and it shines thru.
Do you think the dude is already shorting it, to dump it hard later?
Or is it just going to die a slow death.

I honestly think it isn't worth more than 100k per coin, if at all, considered the codebase, the concept, the performance and the abilities of the developers.

Why isn't there a "I think the OP has a short to manage and is full of shit." option?
1467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blowing the lid off the CryptoNote/Bytecoin scam (with the exception of Monero) on: January 13, 2017, 10:23:12 AM
I would like to add something creepy about the theory stating that Sabelnikov IS Saberhagen.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:

The Berserker series is a series of space opera science fiction short stories and novels by Fred Saberhagen, in which robotic self-replicating machines strive to destroy all life.
These Berserkers, named after the human berserker warriors of Norse legend, are doomsday weapons left over from an interstellar war between two races of extraterrestrials. They all have machine intelligence, and their sizes range from that of an asteroid, in the case of an automated repair and construction base, down to human size (and shape) or smaller. The Berserkers' bases are capable of manufacturing more and deadlier Berserkers as need arises.

THEREFORE:

A man (or a team) creating a botnet (Kelihos) mainly involved in spamming and the theft of bitcoins [1] chosed to name himself (themselves) Sabelnikov, and then the man (or team) creating Cryptonote (and a series of scam coins) decided to name himself (themselves) Saberhagen, which is the surname of the man who wrote some novels about robotic self-replicating machines, which are very similar to a botnet...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelihos_botnet

CONCLUSIONS:

What are the real intentions of those people?
Fostering wide adoption of Cryptonote-based coins (including Monero) in order to transform the coins' networks in gigantic botnets?

My opinion is that the whole Cryptonote thing has to be avoided like AIDS or pest and should be investigated a lot more.


Even evil botnet overlords know that questions aren't conclusions--they're rhetorical devices of fear, uncertainty and doubt used to misalign the paltry brains of lesser creatures.

(where do you get your weed?)
1468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FACTS] ANON Coins = Illegal on: January 13, 2017, 02:52:54 AM
Europe is worse. Is making anything encrypted illegal. This will be interesting, no?

This is not the case yet.  But there will be a world-wide fight by the state-maffias to try to keep their citizens as their slaves, and they start to see the eminent danger that cryptography in general presents for their power.  Cryptography is an ultimate freedom tool, and states don't like freedom (states being based upon slavery).  We'll see how this turns out.  Freedom won the first crypto war, but the second one will be harder, with much more stupid people than 30 years ago.



UK Bans End-to-End Encryption, Mandates Government Authority Over Encrypted Technologies

https://cointelegraph.com/news/uk-bans-end-to-end-encryption-mandates-government-authority-over-encrypted-technologies

Well, and we simply will not care.  That's a civil duty.  One cannot stop you from doing maths on a computer with your own free software, can one.




The point is this is the begininng and it will escalate to includ crypt

Will it? I'd speculate (and that's all you and the OP are doing as I can't find a law that states, or even infers cryptocurrencies are illegal) that some states will combat other states by encouraging anon cryptocurrencies--I'm sure someone in the CIA has figured out that cc's are a good way to drain Chinese wealth into western hands--and if they haven't, gamblers will figure it out for themselves--though their motive is just to gamble they can keep all their winnings.
1469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: January 13, 2017, 12:56:16 AM
Introducing ckgame

This account is run by His Eminence, Luigi, The Marquess of Rome. Giving s-hodl or ck to this account will grant you shares of ckgame that can be traded on cryptocurrency exchanges. NOTE: s-hodl is preferred as it doesn't create rounding issues.

Example command: give s-hodl 1000 ckgame

Currently 1 s-hodl is 1.28 ck and the s-hodl fund also has holdings in mka and m. If you wish to convert ck directly to s-hodl, please contact His Eminence, Smooth, The Marquess of Cryptoluna for more information.


Blockscan ckgame: https://blockscan.com/assetInfo/CKGAME

If you are interested in adding ckgame to an exchange and need additional information, you may contact Luigi on BCT, IRC or email him at luigi1111w@gmail.com.

1470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: MyMonero.com 48hrs offline on: January 12, 2017, 05:13:14 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5n3b9b/psa_mymonero_is_offline_for_updates_during_the/
1471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: MyMonero.com - Security Issues on: January 12, 2017, 12:39:47 AM
The site is closed.Any info?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5n3b9b/psa_mymonero_is_offline_for_updates_during_the/

1472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: January 11, 2017, 03:16:00 AM


Vote: To make s-hodl the first asset to be listed on public exchanges--s-hodl would be converted to counterparty asset ck-game to be listed on non-agora markets.

Debate: Up until now has been whether to use s-hodl (simple reinvestment asset that takes ck dividends and buys additional ck, therefore accruing more ck value over time) and ck (which would add dividends to the fund that would not be reinvested into ck).

Opinion: I prefer s-hodl as it puts buy pressure on ck with reinvestment and also retains dividend yield for those who invest on exchanges (liquidity providers).

1473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: January 10, 2017, 02:08:13 PM
^^ Grin
1474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero exchance centralization... a danger? on: January 09, 2017, 12:28:12 PM

And still a market that depends on privacy (Alphabay in this case) valued Monero over dash.

Looks like their customers actually value bitcoin (a transparent blockchain) and the $USD (a non-anonymous fiat currency) over Monero (an obscure blockchain) by 98:2.

Seems to favour my argument I think  Wink

Any adoption is good and Monero is to be congratulated on its success. But it doesn't invalidate basic principles of what combination of properties optimise a monetary token's ability to store value sustainably.

The problem is that Monero is being used as a payments system-not a store of value, just as its original conceptual design intended as described above in my previous posts. Thats why Alphabay are open to supporting Zcash also in the future - because it meets the same user requirements as Monero does. (As do all of these.)


Bitcoin has had darkmarkets to itself for a long time, and that 2% is better 0%, but keep grasping--I'm sure one of these days you'll grab a valid argument.

Are you ready to get back on topic?
1475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero exchance centralization... a danger? on: January 09, 2017, 11:42:19 AM

somehow we can't trust privacy coins that actually work at keeping your transactions private--this is a perception argument you lost a long time ago

Please stop creating straw men that I am somehow arguing about "trust". You're alluding to a different debate which was that trusting in "theory" was not the same as trusting in the "implementors of theory". (See here).

This point was about value, not trust. It was also pointing out the fact that in an unbacked token, transparency enhances value and that pushing a monetary design that tries to be both transparently accountable AND obscure is a fundamentally flawed approach due to coupling of conflicting priorities.

Thats why Monero has needed such a mountain of bloat code and army of bloat coders to do something that doesn't even add an ounce of usability while other coins are forgeing ahead with monetary oriented objectives rather than "payment system" ones. It's because one design priority (obscurity) is fighting the other (transparency) - often referred to in systems analysis terms as a "nasty coupling".

For the decoupled approach see transparent fungibility.

And still a market that depends on privacy (Alphabay in this case) valued Monero over dash. Your inane hand waving and your deluded attempt at economic theory can't change that fact--you're like a poor-man's professor Bitcorn.
1476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero exchance centralization... a danger? on: January 09, 2017, 10:33:45 AM

The whole point is that monero is, technically and conceptually, an improvement over some SERIOUS FLAWS in bitcoin

I'd say you have that the wrong way around.


You'd also say that cryptocurrency doesn't depend on cryptography and instamines don't matter, but that's because you're a moron--could you get back on the topic instead of peddling your ridiculous notion that (despite the market saying otherwise) somehow we can't trust privacy coins that actually work at keeping your transactions private--this is a perception argument you lost a long time ago, and has no base in the mathematical world of cryptocurrencies, and no matter how many info-graphs you throw at the wall, will not fool a savvy investor or miner or crypto-enthusiast.  

As far as the topic goes...it's pretty simple, for those holding their coins on Polo-- yes -- Polo going under is a risk; for those who don't hold their coins on Polo, the potential risk is a sell-off by thieves which dips the price--this isn't complex, unknown, or the developer's fault: people seem to trust Polo and they want to trade on margin. So to fix the perceived problem, sputz and the op should stop playing mom and create another place to trade on margin that is as trusted as Polo or get Monero added on more exchanges that offer margin trading, because trying to convince people to take their funds off Polo isn't working, and do to the risk/reward of trading on Polo, will likely never be effective. The idea that somehow the Developers can somehow order more exchanges to margin trade XMR or that the community can be bullied into keeping their coins safe in their wallets and never risk them on an exchange, smacks of the control measures cryptocurrencies were designed to fight, and sounds about as idiotic as trying to convince people to not go to the roulette table because they might lose some money.
1477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: January 08, 2017, 02:19:28 PM
^^Tombot hit on the problem and likely solution. We already have an investment that is made up of ck and reinvests ck dividends, so it will be easier for investors to understand and won't force them to do extra work to get their rightful dividends--that item is s-hodl. On Wednesday's Senate we will vote on whether it will be the official ck-exchange asset. You can convert ck into and out of the item--the fund manager, smooth, will have to explain the details, but that means every ck holder can convert their ck into the exchange item.  We will likely also need to rename it so it is easily identifiable with the CryptoKingdom gaming platform--though dragon's blood is probably a little too mmorpg for investor's taste. I was thinking CKA as in CryptoKingdom A-shares or CKD as in CryptoKingdom Dividend/Dragon (shares)...but first thing is to establish the preferred asset to go on exchanges.
1478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XMR] Monero - Marketing Team & Tactics on: January 07, 2017, 09:40:38 PM
...

What i'm actually starting to think is that Monero has a community that does not uphold any values or morals, a community where inappriopriate behaviour of their community members
are being excused away. And it sure makes me feel better knowing that Dash's community does have values and morals in place and upholds them too.    

Lol does that make dash the conservative Christians of cryptocurrency? What does a currency have to do with values and morals? Is there an official dash religion that sanctions views on abortion and transgender people using bathrooms that aren't listed on their birth certificate?

I'm talking about your community here, not your cryptocurrency.
Any self-respecting community should have values and morals.

Like fair distribution and honesty in implementation and creating threads that purport that there is some secret cabal of coin marketers, but fail to use evidence to back the claim and resorts to innuendo and fantasy. Yeah, communities should have higher standards, but since it's open source, you get what you get and what you've got is a bad case of hypocrisy exasperated by the fact the very thread you are posting on is an example of a dasher's classlessness.
1479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: January 06, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
The Quartermillennial Jubilee of Crypto Kingdom

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The GM has granted the King, the permission to be crowned in the Hall of Mirrors in the Royal Palace of Versailles, 9-C (or a place of his choice) earliest 1654, and the King has announced the event to be happen the next year, 1655.

- -


Is this information up to date still, are we going to parteeeeeh this weekend? Smiley


TBH, there's three things I'd like to see happen before we party.

1. Archduke Quest finished (I want to have the celebration take place with gambling and chat and a few hands of high stakes poker).

2. A BTC-->M gateway similar xmr.to added to increase Monero adoption and # of CK players (NewLiberity has agreed to look into this, but no updates as to implementation atm).

3. Be on the way to adding a CK asset to a cryptocurrency exchange.

#3 begs the question: what asset is best suited (from an efficiency and equality standpoint) to best represent our Kingdom as an asset on an exchange?

When those three things are accomplished (or at least a certainty as far implementation), we can party like we just don't care Smiley
1480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON 2nd gen cryptonote, anon, mobile-friendly, scalable, pruning on: January 04, 2017, 03:03:04 AM
Is anyone interested in adding a aeon depository to cryptokingdom?
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