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1341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: AEON COIN on: March 19, 2017, 08:19:29 AM
hi all,, Greetings
AEON COIN coin is relatively new and only traded in bittrex alone,
Aeon was traded on Polo back in 2014, not long after the cryptonote initial party.  A Monero core dev took over the coin, just as a place to experiment with things for Monero. Now, who knows?

That is my first AEON trade on Polo

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AEON/BTC   Buy   Exchange   0.00000220     572.01174779   1.14402350 AEON (0.2%)   0.00125842 BTC   2014-11-05 09:27:51

back them Aeon was 220 sats

Aeon is not simply a test bed for Monero--actually this may be reversed in many instances. AFAIK smooth's development goal is to be a cryptonote coin which enjoys a significantly lighter/smaller data-footprint--light enough to work on even inexpensive phones in third world countries. It's a very ambitious and worthy goal and to cast it as a Monero testnet fails to take that into account.
1342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: March 19, 2017, 08:04:52 AM
Hi all, as I promised, I will now take a leave and concentrate on my real life. This week was supposed to be "off" but ok it's good to get this realisation Saturday rather than Sunday.

The last happening before my eagerly-awaited holiday is to announce the following:

item:wisdomness for CAN (currently: 1) has been underrated badly. After 9 hours from this post, CAN will have a new wisdom rating after a non-provably fair d6 roll [1...6]. ADD: Aaand "6" it is Smiley

Probably should make that a provably fair dice or people (eventually) will say that the game is rigged to be another good ol' boys club. At the moment it feels as rigged as Evan's masternodes on steroids. And this is coming from someone who owns a lot of CAN. At the apex of this game is a gambling mechanism, and a gambling mechanism that benefits some and is hidden is not part of the cryptoanarchist spirit that built Bitcoin and Monero (though maybe it doesn't matter to most and we can look forward to more of the same from the very people who claim to be part of the solution--I don't know, I just know that gambling with provably fair dice would make me feel better as an investor and a gambler).
1343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM ALERT: = DASH PART 2 = (.><.) on: March 17, 2017, 02:15:46 AM
I remember people talking the same about Bitcoin when it went up. It is not to say that Dash or any other crypto is not a scam. It is about credibility of the project. BTC proved to be credible despite recent problems within the community. In regard to rise of Dash I think that the main reason of it is very expansive marketing. It gets attention and skyrockets.

You lose credibility (at least to a rational observer), when you claim that your coin has a decentralized governance system, but the project is a staking system that exasperated the percentage of control with an instamine (an instamine the developers refused to rollback) and a coin reduction. Those are observable facts that can be correlated with the coin's design and its blockchain.

You are supposed to trust that the developers sold the coins to achieve redistribution, but not supposed to trust the observable design that creates centralization <--that's stupid.
1344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: March 15, 2017, 06:34:46 PM
As per IRC discussions--the King sees no reason that this submission interferes with the Town's greater authority to sway HM's will on matters of state and freely give our submission in kind with those submissions granted us by law.

submit 130 36 2  
1345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM ALERT: DASH on: March 15, 2017, 02:43:39 PM
Very good points about the Dash Scam.

is Poloniex a scam exchange? They seem to be running a bot that is manipulating prices

I think you nail this on the head, the exchanges are responsible for most of this pump, when their Bots start this Fomo,it is just like a drug, I can see only one winner here, the exchanges because in both direction they will collect their transaction fee

In the gold rush, it was those selling goods and services who made the easy money and made it consistently.
1346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: March 15, 2017, 01:39:00 PM
My forces would rather withdraw from combat than take money from the citizens of CryptoTown or to force them to chose between those who draw lines in the sand and demand they submit their will to anyone but themselves--paid servitude is just slavery with better food.
1347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin question on: March 15, 2017, 04:14:20 AM
Most peoples don't care with the code which use to an altcoin or gpu, Asics , or anythings about the technical or technology behind that coin. Peoples just need to see a new born Developer making altcoins with an obvious goals. Let's back to the first question, cryptocurrencies is created for what? If you have different answer other than "to make easy internet payment", well you decent to create one.
That's not because you have a newbie account, it's all about your future plan. I beleive you have a great plan that give you courage to make this thread. If you sure to make this one success, make sure it's different.
This coin isn't meant to be a success lol.
No you're Wrong Martin, I agree with this statement, A coin can be successful If that coin had a good plans, ideas you have for your future project, I'm sure some of investors out there don't care with the code,they are be interested to see plans about it.
Just my opinion.

He's not wrong. He wants to create a project (a learning exercise if I'm interpreting correctly) and has no interest in monetary success--read the OP.
1348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin question on: March 15, 2017, 02:31:43 AM
Cryptonote is POW and asiic resistant, so should work for your project. https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf
1349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why??? on: March 14, 2017, 01:36:48 AM
I don't see negative things sooo bad.
It's almost worse playing the denial game.
Look at Dash it has rocketed up even though it has gotten lots of FUD for an instamine.
They weren't denying it though... vs ?

...

We can safely say that Monero & Dash have been intertwined here for years.
I see a big difference between both camps.
One is making an effort to keep it real and the other slings bullshit non stop.
The big fat Monero eraser always seems to sweep their drama under the rug and then Dash's gets highlighted.
I seen pages posted lots EXPLAINING the instamine accusation..
Then i see a complete 100% denial that the Monero team has done A N Y T H I N G wrong... evvvveeeerr.
See the difference ?

@cryptohunter, @Spoetnik isn't likely on the Dash payroll. His psychology is that he cares more about ego and attitude more than he does about actual fraud.

For him, he thinks Dash has done a mea culpa and that Monero's folks are holier than thou unrepentant. He really believes that.

It is amazing to me that he is so focused on attitude readjustment (and I do agree that some but not all in the Monero camp have a shitty arrogant attitude), that he can't see the elephant in the living room. It is true that the Dash folks are more congenial, but @Spoetnik can't see the red, white, and blue dick being rammed up his ass.

Specifically, he ignores the fact that all the people who buy Dash are sending their money into Evan Inc's pocket via the ONGOING masternode scam. But that is a bit too difficult for Spoetnuts to compute, and he prefers to focus on personalities such as whether Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is more polite.

Given the company he chooses to keep, I'll go with monetarily incentivized rather than pathetic delusion and megalomania.
1350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: March 14, 2017, 12:46:10 AM
Diplomats sent to Sweden



Three Specialist (Lv. 3, 4 and 5) are dispatched to Sweden to meet with HH The Duke of New Liberty and ascertain whether a joint venture in Seafaring and RoadMaking can be reached. Each Specialist (from hence forth named Diplomat 3, 4, or 5) is given 500 SCI to perform their duties.

Diplomat 5 is given 500 SCI to oversea the operation and lend cause to whichever venture needed a helpful hand. The Diplomat is asked to watch over events and act as needed to make sure both measures are prosecuted with the utmost decorum and advantage.

Diplomat 4 is given 500 SCI to engage the Swedish Court in a discussion on procuring a mutually beneficial alliance towards the end of procuring the technology of Seafaring--the Diplomat is given instructions to offer a mutual trade alliance as a common point of interest. This Alliance would include Naval protections in waters controlled by either party, but would abstain from regional conflicts arising from war actions.

Diplomat 3 is given instructions to procure a joint venture towards the technology of RoadMaking. The alliance will also carry with it protections for Swedish goods traveling along Kingdom roads--this would include acts of war--as any road within the Kingdom should be under the control of the Lords, Ladies and King's of Our Land. This agreement would assume Swedish roads would be equally balanced in their protections--King's approval would be required for any addendums or peculiarities in this agreement.

The King wishes all Diplomats to conduct themselves with Princely decorum and with the utmost sensibility and sensitivities to the regional standards of etiquette and presentation--though are ordered to enjoy the local delicacies in all forms.

Any Nobles wishing to attach themselves to this mission of the highest level, should make their intentions known,

HMC_

Earl goin2mars has generously given an additional 600 SCI to the Diplomats. Hopefully they will return soon with favorable news.
1351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looks like the DASH party is over. on: March 13, 2017, 02:12:48 PM
no the party is not yet over, Dash has grown to 77$ so the party is still continue, i still have no idea why the price suddenly go up so fast and can be stable for more than a week, I know Dash made some impressive movement in 2016 but I never expected the price can sky-rocket until this point, but I am glad that an alt coin can grow like this

As long as Ver is footing the bill, the party can go on for awhile.
1352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The danger I see with Dash on: March 12, 2017, 11:31:41 PM
Actually, I'm trying to trigger greed in those who want to collect a reward and giving them a shorting opportunity if they do get the SEC involved--I like money as much as the next guy, but I am also aware of when something is broken, and have no qualms about quickening its demise for economic gain. No bleeding heart here, just smart enough to know to stay away and profit from the inevitable.

So you were one of those stupid folks who were short squeezed many times and actually helped massively at breakout's.
Try again with shorts if you have any money left.
I always laugh at you guys, when you say buy when the bulls are dead, and then you call short when they run.

Huh, funny that I've not done the thing you are accusing me of (yet)--if there is a reason (and lending at a good rate), I'm sure I will.

You just make sure you won't miss it by filling the SEC form.

Sure. You get that monetary motivation goes both ways, don't you--you created a better noob trap, but the SEC already has a better scam trap right here to use and I won't need to feel guilty in the least for using it. A matter of fact, I'll actually enjoy it and savor the moment I hear the sucking sound of the ground swallowing up all your dashtard gold.
1353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The danger I see with Dash on: March 12, 2017, 11:09:00 PM
Actually, I'm trying to trigger greed in those who want to collect a reward and giving them a shorting opportunity if they do get the SEC involved--I like money as much as the next guy, but I am also aware of when something is broken, and have no qualms about quickening its demise for economic gain. No bleeding heart here, just smart enough to know to stay away and profit from the inevitable.

So you were one of those stupid folks who were short squeezed many times and actually helped massively at breakout's.
Try again with shorts if you have any money left.
I always laugh at you guys, when you say buy when the bulls are dead, and then you call short when they run.

Huh, funny that I've not done the thing you are accusing me of (yet)--if there is a reason (and lending at a good rate), I'm sure I will.
1354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The danger I see with Dash on: March 12, 2017, 10:58:41 PM
The problem with a greater fool mindset is that you assume others are dumber or more ignorant than yourself--which in your case, seems pretty unlikely.

so the guy that spends day and night of his sad life trolling a cryptocoin because he is incredibly butthurt is calling me dumb? LMAO yes sure man! Now go get a life LOL

oh and by the way if you dislike so much fraud and scam coins but i don't see you fighting Leocoin or other similar blatant scams

Read above--I'm also doing this between missions in the Witcher 3 and haven't really had to put to much effort into them as you guys are low hanging fruit on the reply line and the crappy parts of dash are consistent and known and factual, so I don't even need to use my imagination to describe them.  Wink

oh well instead i have to use all my imagination available to understand why somebody that defends so much "privacy" wants to "fill out a SEC form in about 5 minutes", i really need to borrow some smartness to understand it because i'm too dumb

It's because privacy doesn't imply that you are doing something illegal--complicated and mind bending, right? It's like it has something to do with security or something? Like no business or person wants hackers privy to sensitive financial information? WTF? Is that even a thing? No one wants it for those reasons, right?
1355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The danger I see with Dash on: March 12, 2017, 10:43:45 PM
The problem with a greater fool mindset is that you assume others are dumber or more ignorant than yourself--which in your case, seems pretty unlikely.

so the guy that spends day and night of his sad life trolling a cryptocoin because he is incredibly butthurt is calling me dumb? LMAO yes sure man! Now go get a life LOL

oh and by the way if you dislike so much fraud and scam coins but i don't see you fighting Leocoin or other similar blatant scams

Read above--I'm also doing this between missions in the Witcher 3 and haven't really had to put to much effort into them as you guys are low hanging fruit on the reply line and the crappy parts of dash are consistent and known and factual, so I don't even need to use my imagination to describe them.  Wink
1356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The danger I see with Dash on: March 12, 2017, 10:39:22 PM


Well I suppose when 2 years of cantankerous griping, gratuitous character assassination and vacuous arguments are all lying in shreds on the floor, appealing to "mommy" government regulators is about all you've got left.

That does seem a little undignified for someone who's been promoting black-tunnel money in the name of 'personal liberty' though, I must say.

I suppose they can come in handy if you're in a tight spot. Good luck  Grin

LOL, maybe this time it will work. Let him do it.
Fuckin' grotesque  Cheesy
Since this beta-male have an infowars link in his sig, I'm sure he missed some of this these videos. For example this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apqd548zN1E
Are you triggered generalizethis? You should seek social justice and call Hillary and CNN to help you with this FUD against Dash. How long it has been? Three years now and nothing? Go ahead and call them, you funny guy, you.

Actually, I'm trying to trigger greed in those who want to collect a reward and giving them a shorting opportunity if they do get the SEC involved--I like money as much as the next guy, but I am also aware of when something is broken, and have no qualms about quickening its demise for economic gain. No bleeding heart here, just smart enough to know to stay away and profit from the inevitable.
1357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The danger I see with Dash on: March 12, 2017, 10:32:29 PM

Imagine if you are a journalist (or even worse a regulator) and you learn that Evan told people he would not start mining and then instamined it. Imagine on top of that if the journalist then also learns that Evan the reduced the number of coins?


Does any journalist ever cared to worry about the large stake by satoshi in Bitcoin? NO

Does this happen with large stocks hodlers? NO

Since when capital is about ethics? Is the real world (not the 4chan style trolls of bitcointalk) worried about the "instamine"? the markets say NO

Can you check the instamine on the blockchain? Yes, as much as its redistribution along the following months

Assuming coins are redistributed because they change wallets isn't likely to fool the FBI, the majority of the Bitcoin using  population or anyone else who thinks about it for more than two seconds--do you really think anyone here isn't familiar with wallet creation or how to send funds to yourself--please. The problem with a greater fool mindset is that you assume others are dumber or more ignorant than yourself--which in your case, seems pretty unlikely.
1358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The danger I see with Dash on: March 12, 2017, 10:12:53 PM


Well I suppose when 2 years of cantankerous griping, gratuitous character assassination and vacuous arguments are all lying in shreds on the floor, appealing to "mommy" government regulators is about all you've got left.

That does seem a little undignified for someone who's been promoting black-tunnel money in the name of 'personal liberty' though, I must say.

I suppose they can come in handy if you're in a tight spot. Good luck  Grin

Privacy isn't illegal (yet), but running an unregistered security is, so change the laws or stfu Smiley
1359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash numbers on: March 12, 2017, 09:01:39 PM
10% of the block reward goes directly to the Dash general treasury. This equals $10,000+ per day. Another 45% goes to large holders of Dash called masternodes who provide a mixing service representing about 2% of the total transactions on the network.

45% goes to the masternodes and another 10% to the general treasury, of which distribution is voted on by the masternodes, so totaling 55%. How is this not centralization?

The most logical explanation is these monies are being used to buy dash and is causing the pump.

But all scammy behavior aside, has dash created the perfect storm to suck in more suckers? Ie: are we going to see dash stay at these high levels as it is just too easy for dash crew to manipulate price? But then again maybe manipulation could be a good thing, if it could keep the price stable, then dash could be used as a store of value. Im not saying i trust dash. But I could see a large number of ignorant indifferent users giving their trust.

And lets face it, they might be marketing geniuses. Digital cash... Perfect name for the general population who can barely understand bitcoin, who can barely turn on a computer, and barely manage a smart phone.

Manipulation cannot lead to a stable price unless DASH has underlying value. Because if people are buying due to manipulation, once they find out, they get out, and the price plummets (definition of a bubble).

I don't like the fact that it requires a large amount of capital to buy/operate a masternode. This is automatically a centralising feature. But the other question is, how do the incentives for masternodes work? The more that get in on it, the less each person should make (eg in bitcoin, the more miners, the harder the difficulty of the problem, the more ppl trying to get the same number of fixed bitcoins). Is it the same for masternodes? So that it would not benefit all the current masternode holders if more ppl got in?

If the reverse is true, if it benefits the current masternode holders as more ppl get in, then this is a Ponzi scheme. Is there a fixed number of people who can operate masternodes, or is the supply unlimited?

As more people get in, there is an incentive to ddos attack other nodes--some may point that usage may increase to cover these costs, but actual tx per day has remained flat for the coin's life and its supposed marketing genius has only lured more speculator's and not consumer's money into the pot. Apparently it's like the King and Duke in Huckleberry Finn--conmen who put on a shitty play and get a bunch of towns folk to buy tickets, but rather than run the men out of town--likely out of embarrassment as the story indicates or more likely Twain's ability to put common  happenings into satirical light--the townsfolk brag about the play and a new bunch of people are scammed by a poor show (IIRC there isn't a third show, but it's likely dash can keep doing this until it runs out of dumb money, gets actual usage and the third doesn't happen, or an interested government agency takes action).
1360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The danger I see with Dash on: March 12, 2017, 07:57:37 PM

Nah, journalists are too stupid to even understand what that means.  They even sell bitcoin as an anonymous coin.  DASH is a centralized coin with low liquidity in the hands of a single guy, mimicking as a great distributed crypto currency, improved over bitcoin (not difficult), and know what ?  That propaganda works as hell.  People love to fall for this kind of stuff.  What is even greater, is that DASH can pose as a coin that used to be criminal, and now has seen the light and is on the side of the nice guys ; redemption.   Only a small and insignificant number of smart people know how fake it is, but they don't matter.

The BIG problem for DASH is something totally different: it is an illegal security that doesn't pass the Howey test.

If I were Evan, I would cash out before, flee to an exotic place, change name and live a rich-man's life in anonymity.
(hence, not use DASH, with its fake anonymity Smiley )

https://www.sec.gov/about/offices/owb/owb-tips.shtml
  


Here's ammo. The form takes about 5 minutes to fill out, but requires a lawyer's contact info (but there is a reward for those that dashtards claim are butthurt). Evan Duffield is located in Tempe AZ, but couldn't find a street address. His email is evan@dash.org

What's bad for dash is they need to make evidence to gain more noobs--this cluster of shillocracy took about 10 minutes to gather. The ROI investment sheets are likely the most damning.

https://dash-news.de/dashtv/

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=24019061

https://web.archive.org/web/20170312191741/https://www.node40.com/2016/05/19/dash-masternode-financial-reports-preview.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20160520195030/http://dashpaymagazine.com/index.php/2016/05/19/dash-masternodes-study-rising-crypto-bonds-future/

https://imgur.com/kHW81Vc

http://dashdetailed.com/2017/01/25/happy-birthday-mr-juggernaut/
 

Bump. Don't want to lose this in pages of excuses and shilling.
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