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2441  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 16, 2016, 09:07:09 PM
You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story...

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

LOL.

It would take only few generations to create genetic problems.  Look at Mennonite and Amish communities, in less than 300 years they developed genetic diseases that doctors cannot even name.  And they are not completely isolated. (and are highly religious people who believe in God the creator).

The incest as described in the Bible would end in three or four generations.

You think this way because you don't realize the amount of human devolution that has taken place over a mere 6,000 years.

Cool

as evidenced by? 


The things that you type. If you are not typing things that you believe, then you are typing lies, which proves your devolution even more.

Cool

You know, I think I feel like I'm devolving right now talking to you. 

I better stop and go back to evolving....
2442  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 16, 2016, 09:05:07 PM
You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Of course, you will simply ignore the fact of devolution in humankind.


The crazy notions that you claim as fact are quite amusing... Keep going, I'll get some popcorn

Go get some popcorn1. You two are like devolved peas in a devolved pod.

Cool

Sometimes, just like this time, I feel the need to start a new thread just to point out how silly you are. So as not to sully this thread, you understand.

I think this thread can be split into:

1) God if you are out there, please post in this thread
2) Crazy shit the Bible says
3) Morality in the Bible
4) Inconsistencies in the Bible
5) BADecker mumbo jumbo science and other nonsense religious people say
6) Jesus Lord our Savior, he died for your sins and other stuff

2443  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 16, 2016, 08:59:00 PM
You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story...

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

LOL.

It would take only few generations to create genetic problems.  Look at Mennonite and Amish communities, in less than 300 years they developed genetic diseases that doctors cannot even name.  And they are not completely isolated. (and are highly religious people who believe in God the creator).

The incest as described in the Bible would end in three or four generations.

You think this way because you don't realize the amount of human devolution that has taken place over a mere 6,000 years.

Cool

as evidenced by? 
2444  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Christians hate Atheists? on: February 16, 2016, 08:31:43 PM
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This is completely the reason why to stop attempting to examine all the possibilities, and accept the truth that God exists. Once you accept the truth of the existence of God, you can move on to healing yourself through the various things that God provides... especially healing your mortality through the Jesus salvation provided by God.

Of course, the reason why people don't want to heal their morTality, is that it would include healing much of their morality. And people want death rather than to stop being immoral.

Cool

We are mortal.  Nothing to heal there.  It is a fact. People who die never come back.  We don't have a mechanism to revive dead cells, yet.
AI might offer immortality, once we completely understand how our brain works and can be transplanted to another host.

I hope you are not getting your morality from the Bible.  

Don't romanticize about bronze age.  Those there brutal, cruel times in human history.  You would be afraid, cold and hungry most of your life.
You would not want to live in those times, with Bible or without.

BTW, we are Gods to all the people who lived in the times of Jesus.  If you showed up with your smartphone, car or helicopter in the times when the bible was written, you'll be worshiped or killed.

 
2445  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 16, 2016, 08:17:33 PM
You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story...

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

LOL.

It would take only few generations to create genetic problems.  Look at Mennonite and Amish communities, in less than 300 years they developed genetic diseases that doctors cannot even name.  And they are not completely isolated. (and are highly religious people who believe in God the creator).

The incest as described in the Bible would end in three or four generations.


2446  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 16, 2016, 06:58:15 PM
Behind every creation, there is a creator, this is common sense and logical and doesn't consume too many brain cells to work out whether God exists or not. Human itself is a proof that God exists.

Some things in physics are not intuitive.  That is where some people use God to fill the gaps.

read this book before posting your theories about creation.

http://www.amazon.com/Universe-Nothing-There-Something-Rather/dp/1451624468/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455648962&sr=8-1&keywords=Universe+from+Nothing
2447  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 16, 2016, 06:38:41 PM
As many have repeated before me: show us scientific, demonstrable proof. Proof that we can test. And each test to provide the same result. Something that we can put math on. Not guesswork. The computer you use, it was not made by guessing. It's something precise.
The 3 arguments that you've provided have nothing to do with the existence of an entity that has all its attributes to the absolute.
Maybe the universe is a big aquarium and aliens do tests on us. And the 13.7 billion /6.000 years of history are an accelerated dream.

God created whole universe, including all natural laws, science etc.
How do you know that?  Straight out of your ass (or Bible perhaps?)?  If you say the Bible says so, the debate is over.

So, can created beings prove their creator?
We are not created by God.  Why would you assume this?

Can we know or prove what existed before creation of Universe?
I don't think so.
I agree.  If something remains undetectable, it cannot be proved.
2448  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS AND TERRORISTS ARE NOT MUSLIMS on: February 16, 2016, 04:33:18 PM
FACTS:
All terrorists are of their own branch of religion.
Ones who call themselves Muslim are EXTREMIST MUSLIMS or EXTREMIST

The term EXTREMIST is the only way to describe their religion and they believe themselves to be a member of the Muslim faith.  

Hitler killed Jews as they were the only ones he had power to kill. In history, Jews have always been very intelligent and good a business, Hitler supposedly killed them in order to get backing of large amounts of people!

All religious people are extremists in a way.  Believing in an invisible man in the sky is kinda extreme, don't you think.
Believing anything without evidence is extreme.  

Virgin birth, walking on water, manna from heaven, flying horses etc. are all extreme nonsense.
2449  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 16, 2016, 04:27:15 PM
Atheists hate religion because it makes them feel stupid. Like discussing the theory of the match: how do you strike it, why does it make light? why does it make smoke? and most importantly: where does the smoke go?!

To me religion is an old relic. The religious ideas insult my intelligence.

I'm offended by the nonsense being presented as truth.

I don't hate religious people, I feel sorry for them.  They are wasting their lives.

I'd not say I hate religion or religious people in general.  Just like I would not hate a schizophrenic claiming to be a Napoleon.

Religion is just too funny and interesting to observe.  

What I hate is when they force their religious dogma on others, especially on children.  Now, that is just child abuse.

2450  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 16, 2016, 01:55:18 PM
As many have repeated before me: show us scientific, demonstrable proof. Proof that we can test. And each test to provide the same result. Something that we can put math on. Not guesswork. The computer you use it was not made by guessing. It's something precise.
The 3 arguments that you've provided have nothing to do with the existence of an entity that has all it's attributes to the absolute.
Maybe the universe is a big aquarium and aliens do tests on us. And the 13.7 billion /6.000 years of history are an accelerated dream.

I think BADecker is stuck in an infinite loop. He needs to be rebooted and shipped to Topeka, KS.

BADecker, I think you should join Westboro church, you'll feel at home there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeqYm9DvCDo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBA6qlHW8po

Finding other apes that share your delusion might be very helpful.
2451  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 16, 2016, 01:48:51 AM
ITS JUST A THEORY?

Because when you stress plants out they turn hermaphrodite fact don't stress the plant out and it grows normal FACT
So could it happen to humans?

also there was a theory that being gay could be caused by stress at birth..
there was a documentary bbc1 years ago about the theory..

Plants and Animals diverged a long long long long time ago.

How some plants respond to stimuli is not indicative of how some animals will respond to the same stimuli.
NO NO NO THIS AS BEEN MY ARGUMENT ALL ALONG. your so wrong..
When i go the beach i look at the lines in the sand and the plant life the human life i don't just splash in the sea.. I STUDY..WHY IS A ROCK A ROCK WHY IS THAT PLANT OVER THERE AND THAT ONES NOT..

WE HUMAN THINK WERE SOMETHING SPECIAL..
You are no different than a plant a frog a cow a dog? STUDY
look how plants behave look at animals how they behave germs all life is similar the way it acts.
just your lucky your a human but the process is the same for a human as a plant?
Eat and reproduce? I tell you a story..

One day i blew a dandelion and i was thinking WOW reminds me when we ejaculate..you blow the flower and the seeds spread every where to make new life ..just like when we ejaculate our semen ?

I also look at animals and they act no different than a human ..
So for you to say humans out grow other species actions is far from the truth?






Where am I wrong?  I never were said humans (or any other apes) are special in any way.  We are mammals like any other.  More complicated, able to think in abstract
terms, use tools, but we are essentially smarter chimpanzees. Almost identical DNA, same internal organs, equipped with a pump to circulate blood etc.

I said that we are way more complicated than plants and can better handle stress.  And I gave you examples of where your argument (of interpolation) fails.

I'd expect plants response to stress to be more visible, pronounced and more permanent that a stress response in humans.

2452  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 16, 2016, 01:04:52 AM
Homosexuality is not genetic. It is caused by being molested. I have several close gay friends who have confirmed this, including a licensed psychologist in Chicago named Michael Harvey. ...

I'm afraid your sample is way too small to draw any conclusions.
ITS STRESS  He is wrong my theory is right..

Plants become stressed they turn hermaphrodite

I HAVE SOLVED IT? The more and more i think about it the more it becomes a fact

look at plant life we are living organisms what does it say about plants they can be WHAT?

Gynodioecious: having hermaphrodite flowers and female flowers on separate plants. Gynoecious: having only female flowers (the female of a dioecious population); producing seed but not pollen. Gynomonoecious: having both bisexual and female flowers on the same plant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_reproductive_morphology

You realize that control system in human body is way more complicated than that of a plant, right?  
Our stress handling mechanism is way more sophisticated thanks to millions of years of evolution.

Stress might affect your immune system and behavior (you might become more agitated or nervous for example) in short-term, it can cause long-term changes such as cancer if exposed to stress for way too long your body can handle.

But to suggest that stress of being molested (even if it was over an extended period of time) will lead you to change a sexual preference is a big leap of faith :-).

You'd need to have a large sample of gay people and see how many were molested.  If the rate is %80-90% you might draw that conclusion.  But if you're talking several gay guys, those are just gay guys who were molested, not straight guys who were molested and turned gay.

The fact that all other animals exhibit homosexual and bisexual behavior puts a big question mark on your conclusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

Look at sheep, 1 out of 10 sheep is gay, 2 out of 10 are bisexual.  You think they were molested by a priest or a hockey coach?



2453  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gravitational waves detected!!! on: February 16, 2016, 12:42:09 AM
....

BADecker,

I think your dopamine levels are kinda low.  You do not make much sense.

I think only people in your church know that "scientifically God exists".   Science cannot even observe God, never mind study him or prove that he exist.  Your constant reference to science and God is ridiculous. 

Science is opposite of religion.  Everything in science is questioned by each and every scientist.


Well, except for Al Gorian Science.  But in general I agree, everything must be questioned.  On and on.  We'll never get fusion reactors otherwise...

Badecker has this thing about religion and science.

It's not true, but it's truey.  It's not science, but it's sciency.  It's not religion, but it's...

You know, there are crooks and frauds in science as well as in any other group.  But their work will always be corrected by many others who have no skin in the game.
You can massage data, use selective samples but sooner or later new data will emerge that will invalidate and expose your fraud.

Politics of obtaining funding is a problem.  Corporate interests influence research way too much, but in an aggregate it is not as bad as people think.

That BADecker character is completely confused about his religion and science.  He keeps repeating his bronze age myth thinking it will somehow become the universal truth. When cornered about his scientific claims he puts a slight metaphysical spin on it, runs and licks his wounds. He reminds me of Deepak Chopra and his nonsense.
2454  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 16, 2016, 12:22:23 AM
Homosexuality is not genetic. It is caused by being molested. I have several close gay friends who have confirmed this, including a licensed psychologist in Chicago named Michael Harvey. ...

I'm afraid your sample is way too small to draw any conclusions.
2455  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core vs. Bitcoin Classic on: February 15, 2016, 09:22:39 PM
Why we cannot add code to filter non-core nodes from connecting to core nodes?  Classic would have to update their code to look like a core node and by doing so classic nodes will not be detectable.  It could be based on UA, version or protocol level, or set of other fields.  Nodes can be configured to accept connections above a certain set and refuse everything else.

The classic will try to piggyback on your releases.  So force them to adopt your code and they become invisible on the network.


Yeah! Lets go even further! Let's make bitcoin a closed-source project! Think about that, no more 'hostile takeovers' and threats to the 'consensus'.

I'd never support closed-source project.   I disagree with growing block size to accommodate growth in transaction volume.  Transaction volume growth should not change the original design.  I think growing it at hardware improvement rate creates a more stable, secure and decentralized system.  

2456  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 09:11:39 PM
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When you watch, for example, the Youtube video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhYsOQTfYEc, you find that Big Bang and Black Hole theory contradict themselves and each other. Since they contradict, they are nonsense.
...

First thing out of his mouth is wrong.  We detected black holes, just recently we observed gravitational waves coming off two colliding black holes.

If you think science is nonsense but bronze age myth is truth what are you doing on Internet posting on crypto currency forum?

You should be churning butter on some Amish farm.
2457  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 07:28:18 PM
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The important things, like proving that God exists, are things that are self-evident to anybody who searches for the references using the things that I say. The only people that they are not self-evident to are people who are not very good thinkers, or those who don't want to see and don't look.

Cool

Or it is self-evident only to already deluded people.
2458  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 07:07:29 PM
The moment people clearly and logically argue that you're wrong you start insulting them. That's not nice mr. christian dude.

Now you are calling af_newbie a Christian. Don't yo think that he might be insulted by that?

Cool

I think he was referring to you. I don't think anyone can mistake me for a Christian.
If they did it would be easy to prove them wrong.

I did that in my last confession at a ripe age of 21. I told the priest exactly what I thought about their myth.
Looking for some wisdom in his reply.  All I got was: "Lord works in mysterious ways.  I'll pray for you son."
That is it?  "I'll pray for you son."?  I'm sure my "No" reply to "Do you believe in Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior?" was off script
so that was best he could come up on a short notice.  When I looked into his eyes as I walked away, I saw he was jealous, maybe even
admired my guts.


2459  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:54:09 PM
So I should either walk to work or move with a tent inside the company's yard and be evolved by doing this, of course?

You ask me this? Shouldn't you evaluate this on your own, according to the things that you desire, and at least consult the company about if they will let you do this?

Besides, if you do, do something like this, it will not make you less devolved. It might only indicate that you are way more devolved than anybody had thought.

Cool

Still, you haven't answered my question. Will I be more evolved if I stop using my car or not? Enlighten me, oh great one, how to be more evolved, just like the cave people?

The guy does not have any proofs.  His knowledge of science and bible is very superficial.  He represents an average Christian.

He just talked himself into believing in "Lord Jesus Christ", whatever that means.  It was probably inspired by church ceremonies, cool paintings in the church etc.
Music, beautiful paintings, some nice passages in the Bible gave him enough to create this hallucination.

I'm sure he feels and sees Jesus in everything.  The nonsense he is spouting is a combination of his own imagination and what he heard from other people in his church.
When confronted on his bullshit, he refuses to debate, diverts attention to some minor detail in Bible or science and asserts he is right and everybody is wrong.


2460  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:30:37 PM
I did say that when multiple tests offer the same results everytime, did I not?
God's been missing the last 2000 years. We have to think for ourselves.


I did say that when multiple tests offer the same results everytime, did I not?
God's been missing the last 2000 years. We have to think for ourselves.


Since the culmination of the things that Jesus did means that mankind is now being absorbed into Godness, God lives in all people, but especially in those who believe Him. So it is that when you talk to me, it is like talking to God.

When you deny God in yourself, you are dooming yourself to destruction the only way that a God can.

Smiley

Why were you pretending you know much about science?  You're simply delusional.  If you think God is inside you and talking to you is like talking to God then you have to really check your health.  I think you might be in danger of completely losing your senses.

Check your local mental hospital, I'm sure you'll find at least one Napoleon, Jesus, Anti-Christ or Alien.  

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