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2461  Other / Meta / Re: What outsiders know or say about Bitcointalk. on: January 24, 2022, 12:52:46 PM
Outsiders will say negatively about Bitcoin. Most of them will be outsiders forever. They would prefer to call Bitcoin as a fraud, too expensive, a bubble, fragile asset. Price is too expensive to buy and own. Like this video

Outsiders would like to stay with fiats and feel happy whenever Bitcoin has falls or crashes. They feel happy when they have pay raise but the don't realize that it is not enough to compensate for inflation rate.
It looks like you did not read the OP or what other people are discussing. It will be fine if you can read it now. Because your post is different from OP and what is being discussed.
2462  Other / Meta / Re: What outsiders know or say about Bitcointalk. on: January 24, 2022, 11:19:27 AM
It said that Satoshi lost the first forum which he was using a to post about bitcoin development.  A SourceForge forum.  That Sirius (could it be this Cyrus) provided hosting for the present day Bitcointalk we know.
Cyrus and sirius are different person.
Thank you for proving me link to sirius. I checked the profile and I discovered that he did not get much merits and trusts like Theymos and Satoshi. It was only Theymos that trusted him as "co-creator of bitcointalk"

Because it's not, your 4th point also mention that SourceForge is older than Bitcointalk. You can verify it at Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum!.
Good, I clicked the link to the sourceforge but it is not reachable again. Since the first is no longer existing, it is correct to say that the one existing is the oldest.
2463  Other / Meta / What outsiders know or say about Bitcointalk. on: January 24, 2022, 10:37:44 AM
After I made this post Test your forum knowledge People did not contribute much because I did not do it well. I did not put the questions in objective form. So I was determined to make research. I decided to start from outside the forum to know what people outside the forum say or know about the forum. I separate different websites and outline the important things they said about this forum. I tried to put some important things they said in quote so that we can note them. I also ask questions in red colour anywhere I was confused.


Coinmarketcap.com
1. It did not recognise Bitcointalk as the largest Bitcoin Forum.
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What Is Bitcointalk?

Today, Bitcointalk is one of the largest online forums where people can ask questions and discuss topics related to Bitcoin, blockchain technology and cryptocurrency in general. The forum was created by the infamous inventor of Bitcoin itself — Satoshi Nakamoto, in November 2009.

2. It did not recognise Bitcointalk as the oldest Bitcoin Forum.
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Bitcointalk is one of the most important resources for people interested in learning more about crypto, consensus mechanisms, mining and blockchain technology. As one of the oldest forums for crypto talk, it has the richest library of topics and discussions.

3. However it recognised Bitcointalk as the most popular online Bitcoin Forum.
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Bitcointalk is the most popular online forum dedicated to Bitcoin, cryptocurrency and blockchain technology.

4. It said that Satoshi lost the first forum which he was using a to post about bitcoin development.  A SourceForge forum.  That Sirius (could it be this Cyrus) provided hosting for the present day Bitcointalk we know.
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The story behind Bitcointalk is almost as mysterious as the one behind Bitcoin itself. Initially, Satoshi Nakamoto was using a SourceForge forum to post about Bitcoin and discuss the technology. However, this forum is now lost. In order to provide a space for such discussions to continue thriving, user Sirius provided hosting for a new forum where Satoshi could continue posting. However, as Nakamoto gradually withdrew from the public space, Sirius decided to move the forum to its present address and announce it is a strictly unofficial Bitcoin discussion forum.

5.  It also said that the diversity of languages in Bitcointalk is one of the reason it became so large.
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One of the reasons why Bitcointalk became so big is the diversity of languages supported on the forum. Anyone can start a thread in any language, which has attracted users from all over the world



Wikipedia(Campus afrika.com)
1. They have a decent definition of bitcointalk.
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Bitcointalk is an Internet forum dedicated to the discussion of bitcoin, blockchain technology and cryptocurrency. The forum was initially created by Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous inventor of Bitcoin on Nov 22, 2009.

2. It said that the first Bitcoin transaction happened in this forum, which is the popular 10,000 Bitcoin for pizza.
I searched for this thread.
Pizza for bitcoins?
Is this actually the first bitcoin transaction?

3. It said that the cryptocurrency slang HODL originated from this forum.
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The commonly used cryptocurrency-trader meme "HODL" originated from a 2013 bitcointalk forum post.
Could it be this thread?
I AM HODLING
4. It raised the concern about scam and said that traded accounts are used to scam people.
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A 2016 study by researchers from the University of New Mexico, and University of Tulsa, Oklahoma identified 1780 scams, based on forum reports. There is a demand for more privileges for older user accounts. Traded accounts were reportedly used to scam people



Meet bunch.com
1. It says that most ICOs promotes their projects here. That bitcointalk is ethereum first announcement platform. (happy and wonderful to me that I discovered this)
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As a crypto community, here is where most ICOs promote their projects and start building their communities. For example, Bitcointalk is Ethereum’s first announcement platform.

2. It describes the forum very well. It talked about merit, activity, trust, spam reduction, signature and bounty campaign, evil fees, copper membership, ANN threads and more.

3. It said something about the importance and dangers of seed account but I don't understand what seed account means even after the explanation below.help
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Seed accounts are double-edged swords that can give great competitive advantages but with some headaches. These are also commonly used in the online marketing space in generating initial momentum when launching a campaign to trigger virality that will later be sustained by organic growth. This is also similar to "fake accounts." The benefit of having seed accounts in Bitcointalk ANN thread is the retention of the ANN thread on the first page of the forum. Having a constant pump of the thread would help the ICO announcement reach more audience in the community and keep it trending. If the thread has more views and comments, it will attract more audience in which Jr. members, Members, and Full members can comment to increase the visibility of the ANN thread. Having seed accounts is an effective way of being proactive in the community and thus, triggers discussions to keep the thread in the spotlight.

The risk of using seed accounts is the possibility of getting banned from the forum for the accusation of excessive spamming or bumping of the thread to keep it on page one, but having a legitimate dialogue among other users using the seed accounts will keep the thread active and visible. Using a seed account is a growth hacking activity that requires cautious execution of plans to avoid the possibility of getting banned from the forum of the entire project’s thread.

Exposing the usage of seed accounts to the public may cause some harm in your reputation. But hey, you’ll be surprised by the number of crypto projects employing this kind of strategy. With the right moderation, getting completely banned will be avoided.

4. In conclusion it agrees that bitcointalk is the oldest forum and that it is still reputable till date.
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Bitcointalk is one of the pioneer crypto communities that launch ICOs and crypto-related projects. It is the place where crypto space began to sprout and led to other crypto channels. Even with the presence of other channels, Bitcointalk remains a reputable platform every crypto project must consider building a community on.



Bitcoinwiki
1. It says Theymos is the admin but the domain name is owned by Sirius.
QuestionIf Sirius decides to take his domain as the owner, can he or he can no longer temper with it, just as Satoshi can no longer temper with bitcoin?
2. It said the forum had before being hosted as bitcoin.org/SMF. In July 2011 it was moved to Bitcointalk.org to make it unofficial. But there was still a strong marriage of link between Bitcoin.org and Bitcointalk.org until recently.
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The "forum" link on the bitcoin.org homepage was made to simply return the Google search results for the search terms "bitcoin forums". This was followed by Bitcoin Community members, very much in bitcoin's spirit of decentralisation, creating a number of alternative forums offering different moderatorial policies and using different software platforms. None of these alternative forums have yet reached the size of Bitcoin Talk.

Later, the "forum" link was simply removed, further distancing Bitcoin Talk from the official bitcoin.org. As of April 21, 2012, Bitcoin Talk remains the first search result on Google thanks to its high page rank.

On July 22, 2012, Bitcoin Talk reached its one millionth post.


References:
https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/glossary/bitcointalk
https://zims-en.kiwix.campusafrica.gos.orange.com/wikipedia_en_all_nopic/A/Bitcointalk
https://www.meetbunch.com/the-bitcointalk-guide
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BitcoinTalk


Acknowledgement:
I acknowledge everybody that encouraged me when I made Test your forum knowledge
Now I have known what outsiders say about bitcointalk.org I will continue another phase of research.
2464  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How liberal was Satoshi Nakamoto? on: January 24, 2022, 08:21:38 AM

My question:
  • What did you think made Satoshi keep the block at 1mb and did not consider to change it?



Many 1 megabyte blocks were filled to only 25% or less capacity.

Partially filled blocks was the real culprit behind lag in transaction volume.


Please what do you mean here. You mean that many 1 megabyte blocks were filled to only 25% before the block is solved?

If what I say above is what you mean, how does it lag transaction.
2465  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Nigeria (Naija) on: January 24, 2022, 08:07:45 AM
BORROW BITCOIN
To borrow person bitcoin na another wey to get small percentage of money ontop when the person return am. People wey dey trade fit borrow bitcoin, carry am go trade, get profit come pay back. E go come be like nobody lose.
E dey risky, borrower may go away with loaner's Bitcoin.

Also e no good to borrow bitcoin, e fit put you for dept. If you wan borrow money, e good to borrow fiat, naira wey n value dey depreciate. Some people  dey wey go borrow bitcoin wey no go pay back, some go have the money but not having the value again because say bitcoin price done appreciate.

Some people (rich people) go use their bitcoin, asset or property as collateral to borrow naira. E dey one of the rules of buy borrow die strategy.
For the borrow mata, na $equivalent of bitcoin dem dey borrow, no be bitcoin himself. Dem dey always tie bitcoin to dollar or any other fiat in terms of borrow borrow. So, e no matter weda bitcoin rice or fall.
2466  Local / Politics and society (Naija) / Re: African Proverbs in Pidgin on: January 22, 2022, 09:15:43 AM
My people, na today I discover here.
I know say I dey welcomed.
I thank all of una wey done dey make here happen before now. Una too much.
Proverb: Na foolish person wey no know say em brother na visitor.
Meaning: Some people dey regard strangers pass their people. As you get visitor, entertain your brother join. Anything you do for stranger or visitor do more for your brother because African proverb talk say "if corpse begin smell, friend wey big pass brother go run"
2467  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blind signature question. on: January 22, 2022, 08:59:13 AM
blinds only work within small groups of cooperating users which then unblind to then reblind if they want to pay into other groups. where each group does not share their blinding secret with a different group. and where the total funds are unblinded in between the transfer between groups to audit funds to ensure no fake/excess tokens are added to the network
Small groups of people just as people join and leave LN channels?

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Why does bitcoin not make Alice address disguised(blinded) to Bob ~
Any change in Bitcoin protocol requires a hard fork and it won't happen unless there is a pretty good reason for it. There is not enough reason to add blind signatures to Bitcoin.
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Ok. I understand. Maybe as time goes on there might be need for it.
2468  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blind signature question. on: January 21, 2022, 12:30:56 AM
A blind signature hides the contents of a message (i.e. the transaction). The address is part of a Bitcoin transaction and Bitcoin would not work if transactions were not public (though other protocols do hide the details of transactions). Also, if Bob can see the address in a block explorer, then why hide it from him?

Maybe the address can be seen to certify the protocol rule but there would be kind of decryption to know whose address. Which will be permitted by by Alice ( as the author)
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One has faster blocks and is less decentralised
Is there any kind if centralization in ethereum PoW? which I perceived will be the bad choice you meant.
2469  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Blind signature question. on: January 20, 2022, 11:44:14 PM
I already asked some questions in this thread. In order not to flood here, I decided to add three questions in one thread. I apologise if the questions don't meet standard.

Question one- Volatility question:
I understand that bitcoin volatility is caused by demand and supply. Then, there is fixed 21million supply, if the 21million bitcoin is mined, will it make bitcoin price to be stable? Because there will be no more demand, there will be no more supply. The bitcoin in circulation will keep circulating.


Question two- PoW question:
Bitcoin and Ethereum uses the PoW consensus. Why does ethereum now process transactions faster than bitcoin. This is without consideration of sig wit or beacon chain.


Question three- blind signature question:
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A blind signature,  is a form of digital signature in which the content of a message is disguised (blinded) before it is signed. The resulting blind signature can be publicly verified against the original, unblinded message in the manner of a regular digital signature.

Alice is a vendor that made her address publicly alongside her real name. Bob buys something and pays Alice through bitcoin. Bob will be able to link Alice address to her real identity.

Since blind signature says a resulting blind signature can be publicly verified against the original(unblinded message). Why does bitcoin not make Alice address disguised(blinded) to Bob and yet it can be verified by miners or checked on explorer. By this Alice can be completly anonymous. Is it not compatible or it is not making sense?
2470  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How bitcoin has employed more African youths. on: January 20, 2022, 09:46:13 PM
Poker player, the word I used I withdraw it. But if you really feel what we feel you will use it more. This place we come from, we are being f*ucked everyday by our leaders. Our currency is valueless, our lives do not matter. The law is for the poor, the rich is immune. Our voices no one hear, our story is painted so black outside our country. We do not have option but to bow to the powers that be. The same power will search your phone, if wallet is seen in your phone you will be arrested. If vpn app is seen, you will be arrested. Bitcoin is showing us the right way and we trust bitcoin.
2471  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Nigeria (Naija) on: January 20, 2022, 12:24:08 AM
NEW TOPIC: How bitcoin make Africa youths escape sapa.

Bitcoin don give young people job pass their government for Africa. Dem dey call African countries, number 3 contries base on say dem no development or open eyes, wey be sey na their leaders cause am. People wey sapa dey hold sara for Africa. Na this wala make African youth dey like second hand for their mates eyes.
If the youths say make dem do cross country business, dem go pay tire. If dem say make dem save, their money go dey run down anyhow.
Sapa been hold African youths before bitcoin come open their eyes.
See how African youths dey take see money for bitcoin.

WORK FOR MANY
Bitcoin don give people wey get skills to write for people, build website, market bitcoin SEO and plenty, the opportunity to make money.

BITCOIN DIGGING
Upon say Africans no too discover how to dig get bitcoin early wey money dey inside, dem now dey follow crowd dey dig with their computer power to quench hunger.

BITCOIN INVEST
Africans wey buy bitcoin holam, don cash out big, especially this period wey bitcoin run go up like bull.

BITCOIN TRADING
E come be like say na this one sure pass for Africans. E don give plenty people money well well. Some still lose base on say dem dey trade second hand coins and dey enter trade wey dem no see for eyes. Person need sabi trade before beta money go comot from here.

BITCOIN PAYMENT GATE
Now wey be say many companies don dey accept bitcoin for online, another problem na to sabi how to use bitcoin buy or sell. Africans wey sabi do am, dey use am cash out.

BRING AND TAKE
People wey get bitcoin go bring am collect local money, turn am around. The small small fees dem dey charge ontop na wetin some people dey carry sustain.

BORROW BITCOIN
To borrow person bitcoin na another wey to get small percentage of money ontop when the person return am. People wey dey trade fit borrow bitcoin, carry am go trade, get profit come pay back. E go come be like nobody lose.

BITCOINTALK SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN
This place wey Satoshi create dey give small number of Africans opportunity to earn bitcoin when dem carry companies signature dey waka for forum.

Bitcoin don carry liberty come Africa.


Translation: English
2472  Other / Beginners & Help / How bitcoin has employed more African youths. on: January 20, 2022, 12:18:59 AM
Bitcoin has employed more youths than the government of some African countries. African countries are most times referred to as third world countries because of their under-development and under-civilization caused mainly by bad leadership. Africans have high level of poverty rate and unemployment. These problems made an average African youth to be inferior to his foreign mates. If the youth try to involve in international trade, they will pay high fees.  If they decide to save their money in their country’s weak currency, it will keep depreciating. An average African youth was financially vulnerable until bitcion brought liberty.
I will discuss how African youths earn a living from bitcoin.

FREELANCING
Bitcoin has given Africans with skills the opportunity to earn by creating bitcoin related contents, bitcoin digital marketing, SEO and more.

BITCOIN MINING
Many African youths did not discover or involve in bitcoin mining at the early stage that it was more profitable. The youths are now joining mining pools with whatever hash power they have to make a living out of it.

BITCOIN INVESTMENT
The buy and hodl has enriched many Africans, especially these few years that bitcoin made some successive decent bull run.

BITCOIN TRADING
This is the most popular way Africans make money from bitcoin. Trading has empowered many African youths. But the risky nature of it like trading altcoins, future trades made trading very scary to newbies and they lose money. You need skills to win here.

BITCOIN PAYMENT GATEWAY
Now that many companies are accepting bitcion as payment for online services, Africans that can create payment gateways for companies or help people purchase things on amazon, are meeting ends from bitcoin.

EXCHANGES
The problem of buying bitcoin with fiat or selling bitcion to get fiat is solved in Africa by Africans and they make money from the exchange fees.

BITCOIN LENDING
Lending bitcion to people with some percentage interest is another opportunity that Africans earn from. Traders borrow from lenders, trade with it and make profit and it becomes a win-win situation for the lenders and traders.

BITCOINTALK SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN
Bitcointalk being a bitcoin forum created by Satoshi has given a few Africans the opportunity to earn bitcoin by promoting some companies in the forum.

Bitcoin has brought liberty to Africa.


Translation: Nigerian Local Board (pigin)
2473  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Nigeria (Naija) on: January 19, 2022, 09:07:58 PM
E get post wey I go make for bitcoin discussion board, I go interpret the post for pidgin put link. So that any person wey read the English version fit follow the link to come read am for the local board.
Na my small own little way to promote Naija local board.
If I drop the post here, make una try support me here.
2474  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How liberal was Satoshi Nakamoto? on: January 19, 2022, 05:11:06 PM
I'd like to think that one of the reasons why Satoshi went away was so that people stop focusing on what he thinks about bitcoin. You see, bitcoin is a decentralized currency that doesn't have one centralized authority deciding what opinion matters and what doesn't. The whole network does.
This is very true. His influence was greater and that was why they needed his permission to effect the changes. His disappearance has done so good for bitcoin.
2475  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Nigeria (Naija) on: January 17, 2022, 08:55:30 PM
This one na true as me don observe how people deh take overreact for small matter here. Na so small mistakes deh take destroy person hardwork. And the way weh others deh take deh very happy to bring others down with wickedness deh annoy me. Bros abeg if e get any better forum weh pass this one make you show us the way.
My brother we gas dey careful for here. This forum dey happy when dem bring person down and dem dey happy when person grow too. E just dey like Amadioha of Ozuzu. E no go know wetin go please am and wetin go vex am.
But as Oga Brainboss don talk, na wetin concern bitcoin only dem like here. As the forum name na bitcointalk.
2476  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How liberal was Satoshi Nakamoto? on: January 17, 2022, 08:28:47 PM
what does this technical question have to do with satoshi's political stance (liberal or otherwise)?
Oxford dictionary says Liberal is "the willingness to understand and respect other people's opinions, especially when it differs from yours".
That I why I used the word. Because it seems Satoshi was not willing to understand others opinions in the thread above. That is where I drew my title from.


Thank you for the technical exposition. Thank you mk4 and ETFbitcoin. I was thinking that since sig wit was not a hard fork, it is not regarded as a major update on the block side.
2477  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Congress Hearing On Bitcoin’s Energy Use on: January 17, 2022, 04:46:32 PM
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The hearing is entitled, "Cleaning Up Cryptocurrency: The Energy Impacts of Blockchains."
The title of the hearing does not show it is an investigation or fact finding mission. "Cleaning Up Cryptocurrency" shows that cryptocurrency has being judged before the judgement. Anyways, let us keep the hope alive.
Who or which counsels are representing bitcoin? Who will intercede for bitcoin?
2478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BlockChain and Bitcoin on: January 17, 2022, 11:57:30 AM
coin at stake is of no loss. stakers pay no bills(to others) for making a successful block. if they are not a block solver, they also lose nothing(just dont gain anything either)
he just has to hold coin to show he is rich enough to be more important than others. he doesnt need to hand it to other people, doesnt need to spend it(lose it) just to try making a block. he just needs to have coin to have a chance of making a block. no loss

Contrary to what I believed.
Knowledge speaks.
Let the guru have the final say!
2479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / How liberal was Satoshi Nakamoto? on: January 17, 2022, 10:23:11 AM
I did not make this post to undermine satoshi. I cannot do that because I respect him so much. He created what I call financial revolution. He is the reason I am here today.
I asked this question because of my curiosity on why bitcoin block size was made 1mb. On wanting to know why Satoshi kept it at 1mb, I started a research and I saw a post in this forum dated 3rd October, 2010 by Jeff with username Jgarzik. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1347.msg15121#msg15121 (I recommend you read it, so that you may justify my question)
Jgarzik wrote a code suggesting that the bitcoin block size should be increase to match paypal’s average transaction rate.
Few minutes later Theymos observed that applying the patch will make Jeff incompatible with other bitcoin clients.
At this time Satoshi came in in support of Theymos, see his statement.
Quote from: Satoshi
+1 theymos.  Don't use this patch, it'll make you incompatible with the network, to your own detriment.

We can phase in a change later if we get closer to needing it
From Satoshi’s reply you can see that he saw that there will be need to increasing the block size in the future. But he believed that it was too early for a hard fork or maybe when we get to the bridge we will cross it or some other reasons.
Jeff didn’t give up easily, he gave more reasons for the proposed increase and was actually supported by majority of the user under that thread.
What made me to question how liberal Satoshi was is, after reading this reply by caveden he didn’t change his decision.
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I'm very uncomfortable with this block size limit rule. This is a "protocol-rule" (not a "client-rule"), what makes it almost impossible to change once you have enough different softwares running the protocol. Take SMTP as an example... it's unchangeable.

I think we should schedule a large increase in the block size limit right now while the protocol rules are easier to change. Maybe even schedule an infinite series of increases, as we can't really predict how many transactions there will be 50 years from now.
My question:
  • What did you think made Satoshi keep the block at 1mb and did not consider to change it?
  • In his statement “if we get closer to needing it, we will phase it”. Will there be a time for such change again, or it has been done already?
2480  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: List of VPN Service Providers - 2021 on: January 15, 2022, 01:26:15 PM

My first attempt to use a VPN I had an ugly experience with NordVPN
It was not Nord's fault but mine. I was very amateur in cybersecurity issues.
I downloaded the NordVPN from a shared link on social media instead of their website or playstore.
They altered the domain name with hyphen(-). I didn't know, I completed the registration. Immediately some popups begin to display in my phone. I knew I was being spyed. I searched for the file source to uninstall but I couldn't find it.
I was swift to reset my phone even when my backup was not upto date. I lost data but I was safe from attack.
After the loss, I re-examined the url and notice it has a security encryption https: but it was still malicious.
But I am using the NordVPN now but not always.
I wish someone would create a topic on how to beat the cyber criminals, they are upgrading everyday.
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