@OP you won't see John McAfee working with project without taking pictures with team members and/or making some videos with them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdviserAccording to this definition, an advisor should know all other team members and all details concerning the project. He would definitely know whether the project is a scam or not and accepting to work with scammers is accepting to be part of the crime. Modern advisors are advising pexels team. Someone should update wikipedia, it got stuck in stone age.
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This is what cloudbet is telling concerned customers via chat:
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNOC60Up.png&t=663&c=oT28tkUN2fH4oA) Hold on now. No one said anything about deposit: As I have stated previously,there are concerns about the ownership of the account and due to the large amount of funds in question, we want to be sure that the correct decision is made.
That is all they said. Ronnie can you confirm that conversation is real and what kind of fraudulent behavior live support is talking about?
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Please rest assured that we haven’t been ignoring the issue.
Can Cloudbet confirm this:![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGcw2sdp.jpg&t=663&c=t202FqEjcZMFtg) Bazinga442 - There have been several people from different territories contacting us via different channels to claim ownership of the account, with varying degrees of evidence provided. That's about as detailed as I can be without disclosing private information about the account in question unfortunately.
How many of them have access to account?In this case, our fraud team has needed more time than usual as the case is quite complicated and involves several different parties and inconsistent information from the player. This is our standard procedure if there is any suspicion of fraudulent activity.
I don't see anyone complaining that Cloudbet withholds their 330BTC except Albert. How's that possible? Empty words
Empty words
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Curacao Egaming - with which we are licensed - will act as an arbiter here and we are bound by any ruling they make. We encourage the player to reach out to them directly to present his case.
Why player has to reach Curacao Egaming to get his money? Cloudbet have been serving customers honestly and reliably since 2013, and although player complaints do arise from time to time, we have always had a steadfast commitment to resolving them fairly and quickly. Sometimes however, thorough investigations are necessary to ensure that we can guarantee a safe and enjoyable gaming experience for all of our players.
This can sometimes take time, and we thank you for your patience and understanding.
Who are you trying to convince here Ronnie? Yourself or us? Players have to complain on random forums to get their money back. Recent example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105084.0 where Cloudbet tried to steal money from player under false excuse that player cheated in roulette. After scam accusation all games mysteriously become legit and player got his money.
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Farewell,and dont comeback you can try to ask your colleagues to join leaving this forum so there will be peaceful life in here.Making a thread like this makes me wonder,are you done with your extortionist friends and decided to leave them for good? or this is just kind of a shit drama from your gang making others think like OMG theres a good member leaving agan ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Another angry kid with room-temperature IQ. Thanks for bumping thread on top ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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idc about your stupid rule, but please tell me you're NOT leaving this forum.
I strongly suggest you to talk to someone, either a therapist/trustworthy friend/family member, about anything, and figure your shit out. Take a break, stop caring A LOT, but don't just quit things.
Hah, crazy, why should I do that? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Besides, I like to piss my better half off when she starts with shopping thingy. "Ok, can we do this later? I am reading something very important here"
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It is hard but please stay calm and avoid these kind of posts.
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Complaints Process
14.5 We aim to provide you with a substantive response to your complaint as soon as practically possible and seek to resolve your complaint within eight weeks from the date we receive the complaint. Depending on the complexity of the complaint, our investigation may take longer than eight weeks to resolve. We will ensure that we write to you within eight weeks of the date we receive your complaint or dispute with either a final response or an update of the position explaining why we are not in a position to provide a final response, and when we expect to be in a position to do so. "You are not allowed to complain in bitcointalk about us delaying payment for 8+ weeks because you agreed to our recently changed Terms and Conditions"
"We can delay your withdrawal as long as we want for whatever reason we want"
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It's shame that Ronnie had time to make post about their Bitcointalk game, but haven't posted anything on this or scam accusation thread. It's sad to see what's going on with one of oldest Bitcoin sportsbooks. Maybe game-protect was right about them, lol? I still hope that scam accusation will be resolved, but now it looks that Cloudbet decided to ignore it.
You have been warned many times about their Montenegro's license, but mostly, whoever mentioned it, was called troll or ignored. Game Protect informs since 2 years about the illegal Montenegrin license here Cloudbet scam money owed?Who was too rich to ignore it, should not have any problem to pay the price! 2 years? According to this http://www.poslovni.hr/svijet-i-regija/ukanovicev-roak-na-internet-klaenju-godinama-vara-drzavu-302453, their license provider E-Gambling Montenegro was exposed 4 years ago. According to this http://www.gov.me/pretraga/174352/Azurirani-podaci-o-priredivacima-za-14-09-2018.html, E-Gambling Montenegro stopped operating last year in Montenegro. Cloudbet doesn't want to share info about their Montenegro's license while enforcing KYC how they want and to whoever they want. You maybe have mentioned it but you can't blame some who would not take it seriously because of your trust rating. I'm sorry but that's just my opinion and I guess that's what people are seeing as well
There is no single proof provided by gameprotect that they helped anyone. Words only. All he does is asks for money. "Free" advertising gambling sites which they have on their site listed under "scam license operators whatever". Advertised betking until they screwed them over affiliate thing - then they started with scam accusations on their site for different things. Not someone I would trust if I were you. Oh, yes, and all he does is trolls everyone.
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@theymos
You used to be DT1. I'm surprised you dropped out instantly, does that mean you can drop from DT1 the moment you don't have 10 users on your trust list anymore? Is this the intended behavior of the system? I replied to Timelord, sorry if that made confusion.
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Please tell me that this is a bad joke? ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) Nop. So we should not ask also for remove from trust list
Why not? I just did. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) No questions I have one: are you okay? Yes, thanks for asking. too much drama
Part of the many reasons. I'm surprised you dropped out instantly, does that mean you can drop from DT1 the moment you don't have 10 users on your trust list anymore?
I don't know, probably not, probably on voting day. Blacklisted on request ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
No explanation. No questions, no PM. Not addressing.
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Seriously @marlboroza, just remove me from your trust list - I won't be offended. You don't have to go to this effort.
FYI ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6kwtkRJ.png&t=663&c=hiT4QpV8TPw39g)
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330btc / 1.117 Million $ is something they probably never had to deal with , the average time for them to resolve their issues with clients is 5 days, this one has been going on for over a month! there is a good chance they are waiting for some large deposits from other players to solve this issue!
things are not looking pretty here,tho i hope the guy get's his btc and live happily ever after.
i never gambled, but if i was a gambler i would probably never play on cloudbet even if they manage to resolve this issue, this long delay itself is pretty much disrespectful to their clients.
Who knows what they are waiting for, as far as I know they still didn't address this ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGcw2sdp.jpg&t=663&c=t202FqEjcZMFtg) This https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098762.msg49692182#msg49692182 is probably more important than 330 BTC which player is waiting for, how long, 44 days? At the same day player was able to withdraw 50 BTC and rejected 52 BTC. How much sense does it make?
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It's shame that Ronnie had time to make post about their Bitcointalk game, but haven't posted anything on this or scam accusation thread. It's sad to see what's going on with one of oldest Bitcoin sportsbooks. Maybe game-protect was right about them, lol? I still hope that scam accusation will be resolved, but now it looks that Cloudbet decided to ignore it.
You have been warned many times about their Montenegro's license, but mostly, whoever mentioned it, was called troll or ignored. Cloudbet is holding 330BTC for 43 DAYS now. Live support and community manager? They are irrelevant.
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Every time Cloudbet respond there, askgamblers will give them more time. So they can basically come every 3-4 days and say usual " we are still investigating but we have some new information" and delay more: Hi Swofty,
Thanks for the additional information. Our teams are still working through the investigation and will be in direct contact with you when a conclusion has been reached.
Thanks,
Ronnie @ Cloudbet 52 hours left... "We are sorry to inform you that our wi-fi keyboard was hit by a lightning bolt last night and we are unable to use it any more. Give us some time to reach our new keyboard supplier"
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Gdje volim te kupovati kondom i zasto?Koju vrste kondoma volite?
Otkud ti ideja da netko voli kondome? Imaš u konzumu ono veliko pakiranje po 60-tak kuna ili kolko već. Sto mislite o ideju da se napravi automat koji ce prodavati kondome i da se samo kriptovalutama ih moze kupiti?
Zar nije jednostavnije ubaciti par kovanica u aparat nego panično tipkati hrpu brojeva sa moba? Zamisli da u cijeloj toj zbrci fulas koji broj pa umjesto za 5 kuna kupiš kondom po 500 Pa još ako bi se trebala čekati konfirmacija...uh...ne želim ni razmišljat.
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Cloudbet denied telegram chat. It is somewhere in thread. That makes you and scammer only persons talking with player about "bribe". Maybe your friend cryptohunter can say a word or two about this case, the same way she strongly defended you before?
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Myself i'm shady because i tried to buy an account for a friend so he would be able to post images on his service thread since there were no copper membership at that time.
Which service thread? Same with suchmoon.Suchmoon bought an account for $600 and still her and the bought account have no taggs.Even worse she demanded from DT members to remove the taggs from the bought account which they did.
We are talking about Bruno's account here. We don't want to see that account in wrong hands, do we? Smells like double standards to me. Even i agree i personly wouldn't tagg him either but his alt account.
They could have bought account and be very quiet about it. There is no reason to point everyone that they bought account, it is not like anyone here is going to make clear connection between them and bought account. I don't think this is anything else but for research. Remember s_therapist self admitted he bought an account and still got punished.
I wonder what is the reason to admit ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?
I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.
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