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2501  Economy / Economics / Re: A Nobel-winning economist says it’s time to kill the GDP metrics on: December 26, 2019, 11:21:58 AM


You realize this proposal does nothing to address flaws in GDP.

Its more a form of censorship. Similar to how internet search results and news media scrub statistics for how many trillions the EU is currently in debt. Its easy to find the US deficit in trillions. Try to find the same stat for the EU and there is a mysterious censorship blackout in effect.



There isn't a mysterious censorship blackout at all. In the EU, the deficit is calculated per member state:

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Government_finance_statistics

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The EU-28’s government deficit-to-GDP ratio decreased from -1.0 % in 2017 to -0.7 % in 2018, while this ratio also decreased in the EA-19 from -0.9 % to -0.5 %. Both in the EU-28 and EA-19, the general government deficit was the lowest in the available time series. Fourteen EU Member States — Luxembourg (+2.7 %), Malta and Germany (both +1.9 %), Bulgaria (+1.8 %), the Netherlands (+1.5 %), Czechia (+1.1 %), Greece (+1.0 %), Sweden, Denmark and Slovenia (all +0.8 %), Lithuania (+0.6 %), Croatia (+0.3 %), Austria (+0.2 %) and Ireland (+0.1 %) — registered government surpluses in 2018.

There were 12 EU Member States, namely Poland, Portugal, Estonia, Latvia, Belgium, Finland, Slovakia, Italy, Hungary, the United Kingdom, France and Spain, that recorded deficits in 2018 that were smaller than 3.0 % of GDP.

Two Member States had deficit equal to or higher than 3.0 % of GDP: Romania (-3.0 %) and Cyprus (-4.4 %) (see Figure 1). The high deficit for Cyprus in 2018 is mainly due to the impact from the restructuring of the Cyprus Cooperative Bank Ltd (CCB) - the sale of the good parts of CCB and the subsequent integration of the remaining public financial defeasance structure into general government accounts.

If you download the document it should show you the actual numbers in billions and trillions.

The EU28 are all the countries in the EU (including the UK in this particular calculation). The EU19 are the 19 countries of the eurozone.




Does this mean you don't actually know what the EU deficit in trillions is. As you've never bothered to add the accumulate deficits of each and every EU member state?

All I know is, the EU used to have equivalent websites to this one which tallies US debt:

https://usdebtclock.org/

EU sites like that one were shut down. Then they took steps to make it more difficult for someone to figure out what actual EU debt is.

I used to be able to type: "european union total deficit" into a search engine and it would give me a valid response. That no longer works as search engines would appear to scrub the results.

Its similar to how many news stories which were previously visible to the public are now concealed behind a paywall. Its a softer form of censorship than burning books but it is still censorship.
2502  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there formula for bitcoin price ? on: December 26, 2019, 11:14:55 AM
Assuming there is a legit formula to determine bitcoin price somewhat assumes the majority of bitcoin value is determined by natural market mechanics.

Rather than partly determined by news stories, politics, market manipulation and assorted influencers.

I believe that's the largest obstacle to accurately predicting the value not only of crypto currencies but precious metals, fiat and virtually anything else. One example of this is the value of tesla stock. The news media published thousands of negative pieces on Elon Musk encouraging investors to short tesla stock. I think over time people realized the disproportionate amount of attention Elon Musk/Tesla/Space X were receiving.

On one side there was a political and media based agenda attempting to devalue tesla stock. On the opposite end of the spectrum there were earnings reports, press releases and tesla's unveiling of its new cybertruck which propelled the value of tesla's stock upwards.

How to draw up a formula which can quantify the effect of news stories and other topics which trend towards being somewhat intangible.
2503  Economy / Economics / Re: Reflections from a journalist of a Year of Toying With Bitcoin on: December 26, 2019, 11:00:13 AM
I read OP's article & got the impression a banker paid her $$ to write anti crypto propaganda. Its paid marketing, like a commercial. There's no real need to implement a lightning node to sell poetry books over the internet. Reliability is a higher priority than transaction speed for that role. Misrepresenting failures of setting up a lightning node, as failures of bitcoin itself, are misleading and dishonest.

Whatever conflicts she experienced backpacking in india due to cashless society being endorsed, coupled with the state's determination to wage a war on cash: can be attributed to a cashless society paradigm.

The author is more intelligent and clever than most. I think her anti crypto bias is apparent however.
2504  Economy / Economics / Re: A Nobel-winning economist says it’s time to kill the GDP metrics on: December 26, 2019, 10:32:01 AM
They're not feeble-minded. Just pointing out that GDP is flawed and can be manipulated. We've only been obsessed with GDP since the 1960's - prior to that people had other methods of judging whether an economy was doing well. For example, if your tax rates stay steady from year to year, but tax receipts fall, then the economy is doing badly no matter what GDP says.

You realize this proposal does nothing to address flaws in GDP.

Its more a form of censorship. Similar to how internet search results and news media scrub statistics for how many trillions the EU is currently in debt. Its easy to find the US deficit in trillions. Try to find the same stat for the EU and there is a mysterious censorship blackout in effect.

These problems are basically self-solving problems. People think that we should stop it before it is too late but it will stop even if it is too late, just not with humanity. For example, the world is going into a climate change right now right? Do you really think world will stop because all humans die?

Climate change is only the latest crisis being leveraged to push political agendas.

-Drug crisis: citizens must sacrifice rights, $$ and freedom to fix this.
-Terrorist crisis: citizens must sacrifice rights, $$ and freedom to fix this.
-Climate crisis: citizens must sacrifice rights, $$ and freedom to fix this.

And who creates this crisis? As all of these are manufactured agendas.

That's not my reading of what he said. It's more about the fact that GDP doesn't reflect "the big picture": living standards, inequality, environmental issues. Only looking at GDP makes everything about achieving growth at any cost.

How would this be closing doors, ending opportunities?

Normally. GDP shrinks as doors are closed and opportunities are diminished.

Getting rid of the GDP metric is simlar to getting rid of deficit numbers or redefining unemployment metrics to illustrate a rosier picture of the economy.

It could be what happens when ruling elites decide to kill job markets and economies and want to conceal this harsh reality from the public.
2505  Economy / Economics / Re: Hong Kong protestors call for sanctions against HSBC bank on: December 26, 2019, 10:10:26 AM
Everyone saying banks have "no choice" in this matter. They must obey the state & government.

How do you explain the following.

#1  Banks regularly laundering money for drug cartels contrary to laws made by governments.
#2  Banks taking action, punishing entire nations like the UK for their pro brexit stance.
#3  Banks closing the accounts of US workers in the adult entertainment industry.

There are countless examples of banks implementing policies which go directly against the national interest.

I think what people are missing is banks having their own agenda and blueprint for the future which they collectively coordinate and cooperate with the media and others to enforce.

The bottom line here is china promised hong kong autonomy. That's the agreement china made. Now china seeks to bring hong kong under its own iron curtain and it would appear that banks support this. Rather than acknowledging the sovereignty of hong kong as a self governing place.
2506  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Simulation/Machine Learning Effects on Gambling on: December 25, 2019, 08:53:01 AM
As far as I know, its not AI or machine learning based. Its more like data mining coupled with an algorithm that weighs values and statistics.

There have been reports of fantasy sports players in fanduel and draftkings turning profits using this method for years:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/12/23/from-boston-penthouse-world-best-fantasy-player-plunges-into-startup-world/QHNpLh0O3QMyUDqTd4t27N/story.html

As one poster mentioned in an earlier post, there was a high profile story published on bloomberg about a horse racing gambler who was claimed to have made millions utilizing this method:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-03/the-gambler-who-cracked-the-horse-racing-code
2507  Economy / Economics / Hong Kong protestors call for sanctions against HSBC bank on: December 25, 2019, 08:33:34 AM
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Thousands gathered in downtown Hong Kong on Monday night for a rally to condemn a police crackdown on a major fundraising platform for anti-government protesters and to call for sanctions against HSBC, which shut down its account earlier.

Before the authorised rally began at 7pm in Central, there were minor scuffles between protesters and riot police at a nearby pedestrian underpass, when officers checked booths distributing masks to participants. As police left the scene, they were verbally abused by protesters.
The organiser estimated 45,000 joined the assembly in Edinburgh Place, near the bank’s Hong Kong headquarters. Police put the turnout at 3,300.

Last Thursday, police froze about HK$70 million (US$9 million) raised by activists via the Spark Alliance platform to support protesters and arrested four people for money laundering.

Officers suspect the funds were used for personal gain and other illegal activities, including participation rewards for young demonstrators.
But Sunny Cheung, one of the organisers of Monday’s “Sparking the World Afire Assembly” and spokesman for a group called Hong Kong Higher Education International Affairs Delegation, said the police’s action was arbitrary.

“This is actually detrimental to Hong Kong’s status as an international financial hub,” Cheung said. “We condemn the government for using politics to override the economy.”

The organiser also called for action against HSBC, which closed Spark Alliance’s bank account in November. Cheung urged the US government and businesses to sanction or boycott the banking giant.

Earlier, in a rare statement and without stating names, the city’s largest bank said the decision to shut down the account was in accordance with international regulatory standards.

Ventus Lau Wing-hong, another of the assembly’s organisers, said freezing the bank account would not lessen support for the protests.
“For any of us who have donated to Spark Alliance, we could now be labelled as criminals,” Lau said. “But that does not scare us.”

He said Spark Alliance was formed out of a belief for revolution, to support frontline protesters and go against the tyranny of political and business pressure.

A 52-year-old saleswoman, who gave her name as Catherine, said she had donated a few hundred dollars to Spark Alliance when she joined peaceful gatherings in the past.

“The money I donated came from my own hard work at my job, it’s not ‘black money’ at all,” she said. “Police are just using any excuse to cut off support for the young protesters.”

A clerk in her thirties, who only gave her surname as Cheung, made a one-off donation of about HK$1,000 to Spark Alliance via an interbank online payment system.

“Even though I made my donation through the bank, I still have a thin line of trust that my account activities will not be handed over to police,” she said.

Cheung, who holds an HSBC account, said she was considering switching to another bank.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3043325/thousands-join-hong-kong-rally-condemn-crackdown


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Hong Kong protest groups were accused of money laundering. People were arrested and accounts were shut down. Perhaps similar to crypto being described as a "safe haven for criminals and money launderers" whenever the mainstream media needs to create generic content to push a negative publicity campaign against it.

International banking cartels would appear to universally oppose populist independence movements like brexit and hong kong. Banks appear to side with china and the left politically. I hope this information is useful in helping people to decipher a motive behind certain policies and angles being supported. And helps people to make better and more informed decisions.

If anyone agrees or disagrees, I would be interested to hear why.
2508  Economy / Economics / A Nobel-winning economist says it’s time to kill the GDP metrics on: December 25, 2019, 08:02:21 AM
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Nobel-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz would like gross domestic product (GDP) to go the way of the pyramid inch and the Arabic mile. “The world is facing three existential crises: a climate crisis, an inequality crisis and a crisis in democracy,” he writes. “Yet the accepted ways by which we measure economic performance give absolutely no hint that we might be facing a problem.” He’s right! In the United States, GDP is on the upswing, yet Los Angeles burns regularly, and the U.S. president faces impeachment.

The problem, he says, is that politicians see positive GDP figures and continue with the status quo. GDP gives no hint of environmental degradation or resource depletion, nor inequality, middle-class suffering, or lower standards of living. “If growth is not sustainable because we are destroying the environment and using up scarce natural resources our statistics should warn us,” he says. “It is clear that something is fundamentally wrong with the way we assess economic performance and social performance.” Preach.

His new book, Measuring What Counts: The Global Movement for Well-Being, cowritten with French economists Jean-Paul Fitoussi and Martine Durand, provides a blueprint for how countries can use more appropriate metrics that account for details such as sustainability and—imagine!—how people feel about their lives.

This all began a decade ago, when Nicolas Sarkozy, then the president of France, asked Stiglitz and fellow Nobel winner Amartya Sen, along with Fitoussi, to set up a commission studying GDP. They published their early deliberations in a book called Mismeasuring Our Lives.

From an economist’s perspective, metrics are the key to everything. “If we measure the wrong thing, we will do the wrong thing,” writes Stiglitz.


https://www.fastcompany.com/90435788/a-nobel-winning-economist-says-its-time-to-kill-the-gdp



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It appears people of the world are too feeble minded and uneducated to understand GDP. And so the powers that be are calling for GDP numbers to become obsolescent, so that we feeble minded do not injure ourselves attempting to make sense of GDP.

 Smiley

This is strikingly similar to americans being denied access to ICOs, access to leveraged crypto based trading platforms like bitmex, crypto ETFs and other innovations. Everywhere throughout the world, opportunities and options are being denied to some demographics. Doors are being closed. What's the reason for this, do you support it? How do people interpret the motive behind these policies?
2509  Economy / Economics / Re: I got a question about QE on: December 19, 2019, 10:39:29 AM
Is there a committee or organization that overlooks what the federal reserve does? Or are they higher than government and other entities?

Every so often, a US politician like Ron Paul who proposes an "audit the Fed" campaign. I think that summarizes how aware former congressman like Ron Paul are of the Fed's activities. The federal reserve is privately owned and an integral part of the banking cartel establishment, with zero oversight or accountability.

Andrew Jackson was one US President known for waging war against US central banks. If one can figure out which demographic owned past US central banks, they might deduce who owns the current one: the federal reserve.

While the President can appoint people to head the federal reserve. The appointees are always part of what might be labeled "the banker's guild". They come from a banking background and were previously groomed for the job, which greatly reduces any influence a US President or politician might have for making the appointment.

IMO anyway feel free to agree/disagree.

Because lets be realistic , if you had a money printer , wouldn't you just go absolutely nuts with it and distribute back to the population at interest?

If I had a money printer, ruling elites would unleash an army of hookers on me. Give me lavish gifts. Perhaps resort to blackmail or coercion to influence me into doing their bidding. While this might sound somewhat extreme, it could represent a standard practice. Anyone in that position could be under tremendous pressure to cater to special interests. Perhaps one neglected aspect to circumstances which goes unacknowledged.
2510  Economy / Economics / Re: Exchanges are rebelling against constant hard forks on: December 19, 2019, 10:08:44 AM
I don't think its hard forks they oppose. Ethereum may be owned and operated by developers who lack the competence and technical sophistication to successfully manage an altcoin. Everything ETH releases appears to be borderline dysfunctional, whether its their crypto cat app that crashed the ETH network. Or their proposals for the future, some of which have been criticized by legit software engineers as being unworkable.

Bitcoin cash has always been shady under Roger Ver who misled people into buying btc cash, claiming it was the "same thing" as bitcoin.
2511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [What IF] Part 9 on: December 19, 2019, 09:41:59 AM
What if,... you're just watching someone on a Casino that suddenly keeps winning for a streak then after that he notice you and gave some money as a tip for his luck. Would you use the money he gave you to try your luck on that game (or any game you like) ? Or just keep the money for yourself for a good cause?


Keep the money.

I suspect casinos hire paid actors and rig things so they "win" big. To get people excited and enthusiastic about gambling, in the hope they will "win" too. Gambling websites also could do a similar thing where the site owner makes an account and claims to have won a large sum of money betting on their website in the hope of luring gamblers to bet on their platform.

There are legit gamblers that win big who might give another player a percentage cut of their winnings. In those instances, if a player unknowingly did something to help them win. Like say if the game was blackjack and one player hit, which in turn allowed another player to get the acard they needed to win big. Its been known to happen.
2512  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto vs stock markets on: December 17, 2019, 11:59:40 PM
News stories published by the media and underlying political agendas do more to influence the value of markets and crypto than natural market mechanics. The price of bitcoin has declined more from news stories than it has through any other source. Later we find many of these news stories like the ones about binance shanghai offices being "raided" and google achieving "quantum supremacy" were untrue. Which could indicate ulterior motives or insider trading.

To answer this question, a person must know american presidential elections are due up in 2020. If Donald Trump is re-elected he will implement policies which create jobs and incentivize economic growth. If a democrat wins the election, they will sharply raise taxes, spending and the deficit which will cripple US job markets and the economy. If a democrat is elected, the US stock market will crash as the stock markets of other nations have crashed after leftist candidates with high tax, high spending, plans were elected.

This same precedent applies to crypto to a degree. Underlying agendas and ulterior motives coupled with news published by the media do more to influence the value and price of bitcoin than natural market mechanics. This is one reason why AI trading bots and technical analysis tend to not be effective. They can't predict market movements in advance as those are typically precipitated by news stories published by the media which are impossible to predict, without some insider knowledge.

At the moment I believe china wields the biggest influence over bitcoin and crypto prices. They have the largest crypto mining industry which allows them to set prices depending on the value at which they dump crypto they have mined. To answer the question of how great an investment crypto will be over the long term, a person may naturally need to guess what china's long term plan is. Will they continue to dump at low prices or seek higher prices? BTC halving in 2020 could also play a major role as it is something that regulators and market manipulators can't necessarily undermine.
2513  Economy / Economics / Re: US Treasury vs European Central Bank on: December 17, 2019, 11:36:12 PM
Regulators ban and illegalize anything with the potential to strengthen america's economy. Everything from fantasy sports, to crypto exchanges, crypto ETFs/IPOs and even the adult entertainment industry is curbed by regulators to restrict the USA's potential for economic growth and prosperity.

Whether the excuse they utilize revolve around "climate change" or outright lies, its all the same.

Right now china is implementing plans to build 700 new coal power plants. The united states has shut down 50 coal plants since 2016. Guess which country the EU plans to impose harsh regulations against due to them being a major climate change violator? The only area of US energy that has a high carbon footprint is its military and defense sector. America defends a large portion of the world which translates to a large carbon footprint.

Perhaps in this we can see there is an agenda in place whereby leftist nations like china are allowed to pollute and destroy the environment as they please. While only right leaning nations like the US which do not pollute heavily at all, are cracked down upon by corrupt institutions like the EU.
2514  Economy / Economics / Re: Are we heading towards Recession? on: December 17, 2019, 11:29:15 PM
Are we heading towards recession like 2008 wherein people have cut down their spendings and companies are laying off their employees, we can see cost-cutting everywhere, is it really a recession or just the panic about an uncertain future which is creating a gloomy atmosphere everywhere?



Opposition demographics to Donald J. Trump need a recession to convince the public his tax cut based economic growth policies are failing. They need a recession to bolster their own candidates and incentivize removing him from office. That is why the opposition supporting media bombards the public with the same "recession is coming" fake-it-till-you-make-it propaganda slogans which comprise their standard modus operandi.

There were many investors, traders and hedge fund managers who got burned fading US markets in 2019, due to them falling for "recession is coming" fake news. The same with those who faded Elon Musk/Tesla/SpaceX due to the opposition media publishing hate stories against all 3 ever since it was learned that Elon Musk is a big donor to the republican party -- Trump's party.

A recession could be inevitable due to banks failing and needing to be bailed out. And the federal reserve seeking to implement nonsensical "anti economy overheating" policies which carry a high potential to trigger recession. Central banks and the media have conspired to trigger recession and economic downturn in the united states to suit their own political narratives.
2515  Economy / Economics / Greeks face heavy fines if they don't spend 30% of their income electronically on: December 13, 2019, 11:45:30 PM
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Greeks will be hit with a hefty fine if they do not spend almost a third of their income electronically in an unprecedented bid by the new government to stamp out rampant tax evasion.

The government expects to raise more than €500 million ($808 million) every year from the initiative that will force Greeks to spend 30 per cent of their income electronically, Alex Patelis, the prime minister's chief economic adviser, revealed.

Individuals that fail to meet the target will be hit with a 22 per cent fine on the shortfall. Therefore, if an individual spends just 20 per cent of their income through electronic means, they would face a 22 per cent tax on the remaining 10 per cent bar some exclusions.

The scheme is a radical attempt to cast some light on Greece's huge shadow economy, the world's largest, and is part of new prime minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis's sweeping overhaul to revive growth.

"This is a big initiative next year that will either raise more revenue because [people] will pay the penalty or more likely because of the [higher] VAT receipts," Mr Patelis told The Telegraph.

The revenue predicted is likely to be at the "lower end" of estimates and the country's banks will help impose the measures by reporting spending to the authorities.

If a Greek earned €1,000 per month and only paid 15 per cent of their income electronically, they would pay a fine of around €400 every year, for example. The government is confident it will not drive more workers into the country's booming shadow economy and tempt them to understate their earnings, a key problem in Greece.

Greeks can use debit cards, credit cards, bank transfers and ecommerce for the electronic transactions, which includes rent.

But many workers are paid their wages in cash, which they then use to pay their rent and bills. Greece also has one of the lowest internet usage rates in the EU at 72 per cent. This suggests that some in the country could struggle to meet the 30 per cent target.

Southern Europe, particularly Greece, have booming shadow economies. A study by the Institute for Applied Economic Research in 2017 found that Greece had the largest in the world, being equivalent to 22 per cent of gross domestic product.

Individuals and businesses are enticed to under report earnings and avoid taxation due to high rates and cumbersome bureaucracy.

Tax evasion has been labelled a "Greek national sport" and it was estimated in 2016 to cost the country's coffers up to €16 billion every year, largely through fraud on VAT or income tax.

However, Mr Mitsotakis' government is cutting the tax burden of workers and businesses in an attempt to shock the Greek economy back into life.

Greece has returned to growth but its economy remains sluggish with output still a quarter below pre financial crisis levels.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/greeks-set-to-face-heavy-fines-if-they-don-t-spend-30-per-cent-of-their-income-electronically-20191209-p53i14.html


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Greece has imposed fines for citizens that fail to spend 30% of their income electronically.

They claim this policy is implemented to cut down on tax evasion, for which greece is notorious for. We've witnessed similar anti tax evasion strategies unrolled in india. There is a question mark as to whether these measures are imposed with the intent to cut tax evasion, or whether they are anti cash policies utilized in an effort to further a cashless society paradigm.

There's a second relevent angle where tax cuts are utilized in an effort to bolster tax revenues, which is counter intuitive in regard to how many view tax policies. Some believe tax cuts can only result in decreased tax revenues, which is not necessarily the case due to it having the potential to cut tax evasion:

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Individuals and businesses are enticed to under report earnings and avoid taxation due to high rates and cumbersome bureaucracy.

However, Mr Mitsotakis' government is cutting the tax burden of workers and businesses in an attempt to shock the Greek economy back into life.
2516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it good to talk about big gains? on: December 13, 2019, 11:36:43 PM
The natural reaction to a gambler posting big winnings is to assume, they're hiding big losses which popular urban myth says accompany big wins.

I see it all the time with gamblers like Vegas Dave posting pics on social media of themselves driving expensive cars with 3 female models riding with them, wearing expensive jewelry, appearing to live a luxurious lifestyle. Casuals might find that impressive but most of the more serious gamblers I know of just claim Vegas Dave is a fraud who made his money selling betting picks to unfortunates, rather than by having skill as a sports gambler.

What people appear to respect is a gambler who consistently posts big bets before the sport event is scheduled. That way its easier to know someone has the confidence in their calls to publicly display them. As opposed to many who might win 3 bets out of 4 and only post the 1 bet they won to give people a skewed impression of circumstances.
2517  Economy / Economics / Re: How does the US and China trade war affect bitcon? How do people think ? on: December 04, 2019, 05:06:25 PM
It is known that virtually everything in china is owned, operated and regulated by china's centralized government. It is not acknowledged often but this precedent applies also to china's crypto and mining sectors which are state funded, state owned and state operated if to a degree via proxy. The concept of china having a true private sector is debatable.

China retains the majority of the crypto mining industry under state control. The US vs china trade war leaves china with decreased economic and financial flexibility. This could imply china relies more heavily upon bitcoin and its domestic crypto industry for economic support and growth, due to its trade conditions being less favorable.

If china's economy was stronger their crackdowns on crypto could be more severe as they were in past years when china's economy was doing better.
2518  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency Expert Charged With Aiding North Korea on: December 04, 2019, 04:38:23 PM
Launder money?  I'm not sure how helping another country launder money is a crime against the US--but I'm not a lawyer and certainly not a lawmaker.  Very weird (to me).  The "evading sanctions" part of it I get.

The Justice Department seems to be arguing that his "highly technical information" constitutes unlicensed provision of "services" or "technology" to North Korea, which is a sanctions violation.

It strikes me as a bit odd too. Things like nuclear or chemical engineering materials, military-related stuff.......I get that. This makes it seem like you can't bring anything into North Korea, not even words.




During the 2008 economic crisis, countries like hungary were bailed out by bankers. In exchange for the bailout, banking cartels demanded hungary's government push certain political agendas. Years later, after paying off their 2008 loans, hungary kicked some banks out of their countries. You can find news stories on this by searching for keywords like "hungary boots rothschild IMF banks out of the country." They didn't appreciate banks' political meddling in their own private affairs and gave them the boot.

This same precedent applies to nations like russia and north korea which fall under economic sanctions. Post sanctions, banks offer russia certain capital support, allowing russia to circumvent sanctions. In exchange banks demand russia push certain political agendas the same as hungary and many other nations who were bailed out in 2008. This isn't a conspiracy theory btw there are plenty of news stories published on banks laundering money for russia post economic sanctions.

One might say that's the motive behind these harsh and overbearing penalties. Banks coming down hard on anyone who threatens the elaborate network of control they've orchestrated over nations like russia via sanctions and other methods.



2519  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Two malicious Python libraries caught stealing SSH and GPG keys on: December 04, 2019, 04:20:36 PM
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One library was available for only two days, but the second was live for nearly a year.

The Python security team removed two trojanized Python libraries from PyPI (Python Package Index) that were caught stealing SSH and GPG keys from the projects of infected developers.

The two libraries were created by the same developer and mimicked other more popular libraries -- using a technique called typosquatting to register similarly-looking names.

The first is "python3-dateutil," which imitated the popular "dateutil" library. The second is "jeIlyfish" (the first L is an I), which mimicked the "jellyfish" library.

The two malicious clones were discovered on Sunday, December 1, by German software developer Lukas Martini. Both libraries were removed on the same day after Martini notified dateutil developers and the PyPI security team.

While the python3-dateutil was created and uploaded on PyPI two days before, on November 29, the jeIlyfish library had been available for nearly a year, since December 11, 2018.

STEALING SSH AND GPG KEYS
According to Martini, the malicious code was present only in the jeIlyfish library. The python3-dateutil package didn't contain malicious code of its own, but it did import the jeIlyfish library, meaning it was malicious by association.

The code downloaded and read a list of hashes stored in a GitLab repository. The nature and purpose of these hashes was initially unknown, as neither Martini or the PyPI team detailed the behavior in great depth before the library was promptly removed from PyPI.

ZDNet asked today Paul Ganssle, a member of the dateutil dev team, to take a closer look at the malicious code and put it in perspective for our readers.

"The code directly in the `jeIlyfish` library downloads a file called 'hashsum' that looks like nonsense from a gitlab repo, then decodes that into a Python file and executes it," Ganssle told ZDNet.

"It looks like [this file] tries to exfiltrate SSH and GPG keys from a user's computer and send them to this IP address: http://68.183.212.246:32258."

"It also lists a bunch of directories, home directory, PyCharm Projects directory," Ganssle added. "If I had to guess what the purpose of that is, I would say it's to figure out what projects the credentials work for so that the attacker can compromise that person's projects."

DEVELOPERS ADVISED TO REVIEW PROJECTS
Both of the malicious libraries were uploaded on PyPI by the same developer, who used the username of olgired2017 -- also used for the GitLab account.

It is believed that olgired2017 created the dateutil clone in an attempt to capitalize on the original's library popularity and increase the reach of the malicious code; however, this also brought more attention from more developers and eventually ended up in exposing his entire operation.

Excluding the malicious code, both typosquatted packages were identical copies of the original libraries, meaning they would have worked as the originals.

Developers who didn't pay attention to the libraries they downloaded or imported into their projects should check to see if they've used the correct package names and did not accidentally use the typosquatted versions.

If they accidentally used any of the two, developers are advised to change the all SSH and GPG keys they've used over the past year.

This is the third time the PyPI team intervenes to remove typo-squatted malicious Python libraries from the official repository. Similar incidents have happened in September 2017 (ten libraries), October 2018 (12 libraries), and July 2019 (three libraries).

https://www.zdnet.com/article/two-malicious-python-libraries-removed-from-pypi/


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What are the odds of libraries, browser plug ins, adware and assorted attack vectors being developed to steal crypto private keys? Am I paranoid in thinking there is a potential for harm here? The most common method utilized in hacked crypto exchanges appear to utilize phishing as their primary to go method.

Do many hacked crypto exchanges conduct forensics analysis which would identify more insidious methods of attack. Phishing shouldn't be as prevalent as it is in this industry?
2520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Truly Random is Random on: December 03, 2019, 03:17:29 PM
Generating random numbers is a dedicated and specialized branch of computer study all its own.

That said what do people think about RNGs (random number generators) which utilize past weather data as a basis for generating unpredictable and random seeming sequences of numbers? Is it possible to emulate randomness via utilizing a preset generated list of numbers derived from a seemingly randomized source?

Isn't it interesting how subjects taught in school like math, probability and science which on the surface can appear incredibly boring. Suddenly become exciting and interesting when applied to topics like gambling or video games where they can be utilized to effectively analyze and produce results one wouldn't normally expect.
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