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2621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: War on ISIS: Can we even win? on: July 22, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
You can't say that guerrilla tactics are conventional. Guerilla warfare by definition is unconventional and irregular fighting. My question at this point is where are you finding information about them fighting open battles? Every time they come out in the open, they are bombed into oblivion by all the air forces targeting them. Their only asset is to remain unknown and not easily identifiable, otherwise they will be obliterated by the superior militaries targeting them. I can't imagine they have "uniforms," because if we could easily identify who is ISIS from who is a regular civilian, we wouldn't have such a hard time engaging them. There are stories of them dressing in Kurish uniforms to infiltrate an area undetected before they start fighting, but as soon as they come up against superior forces, they disintegrate out of necessity. That's not conventional fighting at all, even if it's the norm for insurgencies (which is nothing new, that's how America colonials were effective against the militarily superior British in the Revolutionary War).
I see what your saying. In the past guerrilla warfare was characterized as special warfare or even unconventional warfare. But modern warfare tends to draw the line at who they targeting and if they fight in uniform.  Special forces are our equivalent irregular forces. DAESH forces do wear uniforms and primarily target military targets. They also practice terror by distributing horrifying videos to scare the population. Although they have now stopped this practice and no longer will show decapitations.

But they do fight open battles from fixed positions in uniform. They use artillery, anti-air missiles, light and heavy armor, etc. These things are even beyond guerrilla fighting Their forces are arguably the most competent in the regional fighting. They know how to hide and when to move in a way that we can do little about.
For example there is a lot of talk about air-strikes. Well, that window has closed a lot. 75% of the air sorties now return without dropping any ordinance. We really have few actionable targets. Even though you can see them walking around everywhere, we can't hit most of them because they are in civilian areas or the targets are not cost effective. We would go broke trying to kill all 100,000 of them with $10,000 hellfire missiles.

The time has now come for ground forces to fight, but it is not clear who that will be. The YPG is often seen as the group who will fight. However they are only interested in defending the country of Kurdistan, and frankly the Peshmerga are overrated. The next most effective force is Iran. However they are interested in controlling Iraqi territory and spreading their influence. That leaves the U.S. and the Iraqi army. I don't see how that is going to work. The U.S. is not going to commit the hundreds of thousands of ground forces needed to win and the Iraqis don't have the fighters. Forget about training them, we have been doing that for like 11 years and have about 2600 reliable fighters. At that rate it will take a century. I really don't see how we are going to do this. 
2622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Jet for Big Game Commercial - Vote Now on: July 22, 2015, 04:42:35 PM
Voted! This week in Wisconsin is the OshKosh fly-in. Is this jet at that show by any chance?
2623  Other / Politics & Society / Re: War on ISIS: Can we even win? on: July 22, 2015, 03:26:50 PM
This is a growing question in intelligence circles. It has really become incorrect to refer to these guys as terrorists. They do practice terror, but so do a lot of nation-states. True terrorism is practiced in an asymmetric warfare environment. When you can't win a battle you try to get the enemy to make stupid moves by making them fearful. Al-Qaeda works this way. Look at how successful they were on 9/11. We lost a few buildings and a few thousand people. It was bad, but the reaction we launched has cost us trillions, wrecked our economy, ruined some of our key alliances, and created hundreds of thousands of new Jihadis.  
We foolishly played the hand they dealt us.    

Is this what DAESH is like? Not anymore anyway. They fight conventional battles, they have nation level weapons, they have their own currencies, medical services, oil refineries, they control huge areas of land. These things are putting them on a path to statehood and in 100 years it is possible that there will still be a Caliphate in the region.

We could beat them right now, however we (USA) are not willing to do the work. It will take a draft and a force of at least 300K (500K would be better). Are you ready to go to war. Not the kid stuff we have been doing so far, but a real war with losses in the tens of thousands.

I have to disagree the some of the characterizations here. I don't think Al-Qaida's goal was all the aftermath of 9/11 (wrecked economy, alliance strain, etc.) but was a nice bonus for them. Their goal was just to kill as many people as possible and to do so as dramatically as possible.

And ISIS certainly does not fight conventional battles. Every time they try, they are routinely routed by militarily superior forces that oppose them. They fight with guerrilla tactics: car bombs, suicide bombs, anything that allows surprise attacks on heavy civilian areas before they shrink back into the surroundings. When the terror they bring forces people and government forces to flee an area, they take control of it. But in no sense is that a conventional battle.

Because of this, I question whether we could beat them right now. If we put troops on the ground again, I view it more likely we will radicalize more to their cause than defeat them first.
Disagreement and discussion is how we move forward.  Cheesy
But I do think there is some confusion about terrorism. You are correct that DAESH (ISIS) often use guerrilla tactics. However these tactics are a standard part of modern conventional warfare. Guerrillas fight in uniform and are structured into conventional units. Terrorists work in cells or even alone, do not wear uniforms, do not hold ground, and are primarily interested in pushing events to a tipping point that allows for open guerrilla warfare. I realize that this is on a spectrum and DAESH's earlier iterations used terrorism. But now they are fighting open battles and I don't see where they are losing overall.
By comparison Al-Qaeda (the base) members mostly hide in cities under fake names and focus on traditional terror tactics. I think they did expect that the U.S. would over-react and hurt themselves. That is what Bin Laden was saying as far back as the early 1990's.
Why just two days before 9/11 Ahmad Shah Massoud was assassinated by Al-Qaeda in preparation for America's expected war in Afghanistan.  These guys are no dummies. The attackers on 9/11 were doctors and engineers. They study political science and history and have vision for what they want to do. It would be great if they were just crazy and foolishly delusional. 
2624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CHATTANOOGA SHOOTING: 4 MARINES KILLED in GUN FREE ZONE - Update: 5 killed on: July 21, 2015, 08:26:32 PM
I don't patronize places with that sign. Ask the owner if he/she will sign a contract to protect you with his/her life in the event of an attack. A gun free zone is just a place you will surely die in an attack because signs work only on law abiding gun owners.  Does anyone think that a crazy person or a murderous rampage killer or a robber is going to obey a stupid sign?  Roll Eyes
I saw this morning that armed people are volunteering to stand outside of recruiting stations to protect the army. And the army is considering getting rid of those signs.

What a stupid idea it is to think that a sign is some kind of protection. a GUN is protection.
2625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Most beautiful block explorer ever ? on: July 21, 2015, 08:04:23 PM
Oh wow, me likey likey!  Cheesy
2626  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is ISIS Proof that Islam has Failed at Peace? on: July 21, 2015, 07:57:32 PM
RE the DAESH explanation, quite interesting.  I refer though to the fact that literally, you refer to DAESH and likely most readers are simply clueless as to what you refer to.  Maybe something like DAESH(aka ISIS) is called for, lol....

I should start doing that. I'm sure your right about the confusion. Another note about the term daesh (isis) is that when you search for news from the region you get much better results than with isis. I find many more interesting first hand accounts from English language Arab news sources.
2627  Other / Politics & Society / Re: War on ISIS: Can we even win? on: July 21, 2015, 05:26:49 PM
This is a growing question in intelligence circles. It has really become incorrect to refer to these guys as terrorists. They do practice terror, but so do a lot of nation-states. True terrorism is practiced in an asymmetric warfare environment. When you can't win a battle you try to get the enemy to make stupid moves by making them fearful. Al-Qaeda works this way. Look at how successful they were on 9/11. We lost a few buildings and a few thousand people. It was bad, but the reaction we launched has cost us trillions, wrecked our economy, ruined some of our key alliances, and created hundreds of thousands of new Jihadis.  
We foolishly played the hand they dealt us.    

Is this what DAESH is like? Not anymore anyway. They fight conventional battles, they have nation level weapons, they have their own currencies, medical services, oil refineries, they control huge areas of land. These things are putting them on a path to statehood and in 100 years it is possible that there will still be a Caliphate in the region.

We could beat them right now, however we (USA) are not willing to do the work. It will take a draft and a force of at least 300K (500K would be better). Are you ready to go to war. Not the kid stuff we have been doing so far, but a real war with losses in the tens of thousands.
2628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Man Faces 6 Months JAIL For Disagreeing With FEMINISTS on: July 21, 2015, 05:08:43 PM
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which allowed players to simulate punching feminist blogger Anita Sarkeesian in the face.

actually, it sound like this terrible fucker got what he deserved
clearly. The title is incorrect, he was jailed for harassment. 
2629  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is ISIS Proof that Islam has Failed at Peace? on: July 21, 2015, 04:55:45 PM
I rather like the analogy, but still suggest you use the commonly used term "ISIS."

And if the "worst" of the two religions is respectively Westboro and ISIS, I know which this here atheist likes better.

Yeah, I would rank ISIS a million times worse. As uncouth as they are, the W.B.C. congregation is just expressing an opinion peacefully. 
I use DAESH for a few reasons. Most of my experience with them has been in the middle east and they are always called DEASH there. But the main reason is that calling them ISIS is showing support for them. In the Islamic state it is forbidden to refer to them as DAESH. The punishment for this is that "your tongue will be cut from your mouth." They hate being called DAESH because it is a play on words in Arabic. It is the acronym for ISIS, but also sound like you are saying the word meaning to trample or crush under foot. Arab culture is weird about feet and this term is considered very disrespectful. As this war plays out over the next 10-20 years I think you will see this term replacing ISIS or IS or ISIL. All of which acknowledge the existence of the Caliphate.  For me they are not a caliphate and are better described as the ones who trample everything.

Yes. And the westboro church is absolute, unequivocal and undeniable proof that Christianity is a violent, bigoted cult and nothing more. Good point OP!

Are you being facetious or serious? I can't tell if your tone is sarcastic or not.
I was being sarcastic. As pointed out above, I was referencing the logical fallacy of making a rule from one example.
2630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you using BitWage to get any of your paycheck paid in bitcoin? on: July 21, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
My employer owns some BTC and is open to it, however Just buying them myself is also working. I am still considering it.
2631  Economy / Marketplace / Re: List of places to buy firearms for bitcoin on: July 21, 2015, 01:18:49 PM
If it is legal to have in your country, chances are they will ship it. The USA exports a lot of weapons, so the export regulations are usually not super restrictive, especially when it comes to unregulated parts.

I'm asking because I know a few people that had problems buying gun sights, optics, gun mounted flashlights, etc. Some places ship without problems, with others purchase is only possible if it's sent to a reshipper first, and others want you to make a call and then refuse to ship after hearing a foreign accent. It seems there is a very large discrepancy between different countries on what constitutes a regulated gun part/accessory and what doesn't. Then there's also some kind of $100/shipment limit.

http://www.opticsplanet.com/export.html
http://www.borderview.com/services/for-individuals/100-export-exemption-details/

Optics can be tricky. There are classes of optics that can not be exported but can be purchased. For example, I think my night vision, red dot, and tritium sights all had stickers on the boxes warning not to take them out of the country.
2632  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is there such an insurgence of flat-earthers in 2015? on: July 20, 2015, 07:58:30 PM
The funny thing is that you have to be more than ignorant to believe this, you have to be willfully ignorant. No teacher at a school or trip to the museum is informing this belief. You have to force yourself to think that despite hundreds of years of global navigation and millions of trips around the world each month, somehow no one ever noticed that the Earth is flat. WTF?
You have to reject geology, astronomy, geography, all maps, hundreds of scientific experiments that clearly demonstrate the roundness of the Earth going back over two thousand years (Eratosthenes of Cyrene); and everyone you meet.  
Basically you have to be Alex Jones.  Cheesy
2633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is ISIS Proof that Islam has Failed at Peace? on: July 20, 2015, 07:49:26 PM
Yes. And the westboro church is absolute, unequivocal and undeniable proof that Christianity is a violent, bigoted cult and nothing more. Good point OP!

Parsing this, I assume you took the OP, noticed it contained a logical error, "the exception proves the rule",

applied the identical rule to Christianity...

 Wink I would guess that the guys in the Westboro church claim to be the only people who really represent Christianity, just like DAESH claims to be the only true representatives of Allah. In reality they are both fringe element groups that embarrass the majority of good people who just want to pray in peace and raise their children. 
2634  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BTC for Jesus on: July 20, 2015, 05:35:06 PM
Hi BTCforJesus,

It might be interesting to contact the charities you mentioned and ask them to take bitcoin directly. It is very easy for them to set up and many other charities already take them. Including the United Way, which is the largest charity.

Cheers
2635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I did my first Bitcoin presentation last week at a York Green Party meeting on: July 20, 2015, 05:22:30 PM
Gracias por difundir la palabra.

.01337 tip sent to a "leet" bitcoiner!

2636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is there such an insurgence of flat-earthers in 2015? on: July 20, 2015, 05:07:07 PM
Remember when the school's funding was cut because we thought education was so expensive? Well the kids are grown up now and they are as ignorant as a box of hammers. Just wait till you see how much stupid costs.  Wink

But Beliathon says we're getting smarter as a species, the majority of people believe in science, and trust it wholeheartedly? Shouldn't the number of people who would take this seriously go down? Why has no one answered the topic of this thread?
I know that there is a dramatic increase in atheism, but I'm not sure faith in the scientific method means understanding science. Look at how many flat-Earth-ers, bigfoot trackers, and UFO enthusiasts point to their "data" and use various electronic quackery devices to "study" their topic. None of it is even remotely scientific, but how would they know?
I still think it is the rise of stupidity and the flawed idea that different theories can be weighted equally in science. For example, how many geographers think the world is flat?  


What does that have to do with teachers unions? It is just a collection of stories from around the world of "worst teachers". Do you think that turning teaching into a "McJob" is going to help with this? Not that I care. I have always been one of the highest paid teachers in the states I have lived in.
How? easy, I teach rich kids. The rich lawmakers who cut school budgets and bust school unions certainly don't want their kids to become dummies.  When they attack teachers they mean the people who teach YOUR kids. Your the "little man", you only need to know enough to sweep the streets and pay taxes for the wealthy. My kids pay as much as $90,000 for a 6th. grade education. Do you think they learn about the flatness of the earth or ignore evolution? Please, they are going to college.
2637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is there such an insurgence of flat-earthers in 2015? on: July 20, 2015, 04:52:49 PM
Remember when the school's funding was cut because we thought education was so expensive? Well the kids are grown up now and they are as ignorant as a box of hammers. Just wait till you see how much stupid costs.  Wink
2638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I did my first Bitcoin presentation last week at a York Green Party meeting on: July 20, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
This is great. Early on it was people doing stuff like this that caused bitcoin to explode. When it did, it seemed to attract a lot of people who just wanted to get rich ass sitting. Nice job Yorkydude! Please PM me with one of your receiving addresses or post it here. I for one would like to tip you.
2639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS using suicide chikens on: July 20, 2015, 03:52:11 PM
Is ISIS developing suicide CHICKENS? Pictures appear to show bombs strapped to hens by bird-brained jihadis
... it has been claimed.

... are said to be ...

... apparently use remote controls...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3167978/Bird-brained-ISIS-jihadis-developing-suicide-chickens-strapping-homemade-bombs-hens-encouraging-wander-enemy-camps.html

Who said this? Where did this comer from? There is no indication that DAESH has ever considered this. My guess is that someone saw the movie "the dancer upstairs". In which that exact thing happens. It's a great movie, by the way.
2640  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is ISIS Proof that Islam has Failed at Peace? on: July 20, 2015, 03:43:05 PM
Yes. And the westboro church is absolute, unequivocal and undeniable proof that Christianity is a violent, bigoted cult and nothing more. Good point OP!
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