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2641  Economy / Exchanges / Re: CEX Vs DEX ? on: December 13, 2019, 11:43:01 AM
Are there are any truly decentralised exchanges out there?

Perhaps Bisq but I can't think of anything else. Binance can ban you and roll back your transactions so that's a definite no. Most of the others rely on a domain and hosting and that can be hijacked so you'll never be fully certain.

Until they're in wallet and on chain they'll always be questionable and so far the people who run them have not come across as premier league characters. There shouldn't be anyone running them beyond those who issue software for you to run.

2642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [2019-12-13] Russia’s Largest Darknet Market Is Hawking an ICO to Fund Expansion on: December 13, 2019, 11:38:04 AM
Russia. Drugs. ICO.

That's about as unappetising a triumvirate as I could possibly imagine.

An interesting concept indeed and they've certainly been around for a long time but it would take you nearly two years to earn back what your tokens cost and no mention of whether they're tradeable.

That would be a shit deal even if they were selling toilet paper and half price Iphones and had an outlet on every street corner.
2643  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Kraken suspended my account and refunded the money on: December 13, 2019, 11:28:38 AM
Coinbase might be strict with country policies but there could be exceptions.

I doubt it. I've read of people logging in to Coinbase when travelling in places that aren't on their approved list and their accounts got shown the door. Many of these places don't seem capable of understanding you might actually go to another country sometimes but I guess it pays for them to be paranoid.
2644  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Poloniex after 6 months shows no remorse nor guilt, Justin Sun? on: December 13, 2019, 01:25:04 AM
I thought Mr. Sun denied all involvement in its sale at the time. Looks like that was a lie which is nicely consistent with his MO.

The recent stuff around Digibyte signals that they're going to head further into questionable behaviour. I wonder how many hundreds of millions it will have burnt by the time it finally dies.
2645  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2019, 11:53:02 PM
On the positive side, Ireland will finally be united after N. Ireland becomes an economic wasteland and begs to join with their bretheren.

I doubt Ireland can afford the Northern Irish, let alone want them. The current arrangement suited them very nicely. Northern Ireland costs the British taxpayer a shit ton to run. The rest of the UK picked up the tab, kept a lid on the loyalist nutters and the flow of business into Ireland was seamless.
2646  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2019, 11:43:25 PM
Well, looks like the Brit gits are about to commit economic suicide. Thank heavens there is bitcoin so the people can exchange their worthless "pound" for something that will have value.

I'm going to enjoy watching this unfold.

I think the problem is that the opposition offered even more economic suicide. Even if they kept it soft with the EU their Venezuelan ideas would've driven away most business. Unbelievable that it's come to this.

The only bright spot is the Scottish Nationalists wiping out everyone up North which means the union might break up and I can leave England to slowly fist itself. Failing that I may buy some toothless Bulgarian grandma for a pittance so I can marry her.
2647  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Kraken suspended my account and refunded the money on: December 12, 2019, 10:30:39 PM
My father can do all the verification they will ask that won't be a problem. And it is a small deposit only 1000 euro.

Should i do my first deposit a smaller amount 500 euro ? I thought since it's sepa bank transfer to do 1000 euro minimum.

We did do like more then 30 pictures for kraken since they where bad quality and we did verify till level 3.

All I can say is that I've never heard of Coinbase making demands like that. They just shut your account and tell you to go away. You don't seem to get a chance.

In Kraken's case it sounds a lot like your weird VPS/IP is the cause of that and most other exchanges would probably do the same.
2648  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Kraken suspended my account and refunded the money on: December 12, 2019, 09:50:35 PM
My father doesn't have android he uses old nokia (old habits) but he knows computer at level 3 basic something like.

We used a remote computer VPS in frankfurt to do the kraken account signup and verification's.

Can we open coinbase the same way via windows VPS in frankfurt or i can do it via my android phone? but it's his sim card (phone number that is linked to his ebanking) it's on his nokia. Do I need some verifications if I install coinbase in my android phone with sms like whatsapp that I have to have his sim inserted (phone number) ?

I really don't want to check the signup and have troubles in the end with the refund solution Sad I hope you can understand me.

Maybe the computer method works fine now. It didn't when I tried.

Coinbase do SMS based 2FA so an old phone should be fine. I don't know if they demand the usage of an app. They also seem extremely sensitive about people changing locations so you might end up with the same problem.

I doubt they would let you deposit anything until you were completely verified, and there's no point in doing so, so you have nothing to lose by attempting it.
2649  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Kraken suspended my account and refunded the money on: December 12, 2019, 09:34:42 PM
Luno, Kriptomat, coinbase, switchere

Of that selection I'm only familiar with Coinbase. I've genuinely never heard of any of the others.

With Coinbase all I had to do to verify was photo ID and proof of address. Nothing else. They gave me a stupidly high limit but I can't remember what it was. Use a phone to photograph and upload through their app. The website didn't work for me. Coinbase Pro will have lower fees but requires separate registration but the same docs when I checked.

Id and address is all I required for Kraken level 3 as well but it was many years ago. Maybe it's changed.
2650  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: So Richard Heart is a Bitcoin ponzi scammer too? on: December 12, 2019, 09:08:11 PM
I wonder if Heart is attracting attention from the SEC. I don't see any restrictions on investment from US persons. Despite this humorous disclaimer --

I follow a couple of crypto-aware lawyers on Twitter. I think it's safe to say they're rather less confident than he is in the future success of his wonderful project - https://twitter.com/jchervinsky/status/1204628002979667969

Then again he strikes me as a right slippery git so may know something we don't.
2651  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Best way to mix bitcoins on: December 12, 2019, 09:04:03 PM
It may be mixed but then people can trace that the BTC comes from an exchange. It serves but that will still be an issue if the person is going to be traced deliberately when the BTC comes from a known exchange address.

Yes. It's not proper mixing. All I'm interested in is making sure future transactions can't be traced back to my original wallet by any old creep having a look. I don't care if they know it's from an exchange and I don't care about the exchange itself knowing the original address.

If I were a paedo, drug dealer or thief then my approach would have to be totally different.
2652  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [List] Gift cards providers on: December 12, 2019, 08:52:05 PM
after that experience, i started using bitrefill for amazon.com gift cards. they are unfortunately the most expensive option by far. they charge an extra 2% on everything. they do have the added bonus of processing with zero confirmations (make sure not to use RBF though!) if you pay with 6+ sat/byte fee rate, so i always use them when i'm in a hurry. however, i'm getting sick of being overcharged every time so i might go back to the bitpay wallet.

I've noticed this too after using them. As far as I know they are the one and only gift card provider that sticks a premium on top though I guess almost all others use Bitpay's exchange rate. It kind of negates the point. If you have a decent exchange you may as well use that as it'll almost certainly be cheaper than 2%.

For another 0.5% I can use a Coinbase debit card which leaves me with money to spend elsewhere should I wish it. I'd choose that instead.
2653  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Best way to mix bitcoins on: December 12, 2019, 08:40:17 PM
Converting to an alt and then back is an excellent way to mix bitcoins. Use an exchange, so that the sending wallet which sends out your bitcoins has a diferent address to the one you used to deposit the coins.

There's no need to do the alt bit if you're using an exchange. Send Bitcoin. Withdraw Bitcoin. It's pretty much guaranteed to come from a totally unrelated wallet to the one you sent it to. If you buy an alt in the middle bit you're just wasting fees and moving around the exchange's internal ledger.

That's not much use if the BTC you want to mix is involved in something against the exchange's terms and conditions like gambling but fine for straightforward breaking the link between old and new addresses for future privacy. You still don't want to be doing anything against their terms if you plan on using them again though.
2654  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Will take brake on: December 12, 2019, 08:15:26 PM
my sense is that he's doubling down on his bitcoin losses and is making a hail mary play with lower cap altcoins. it's a classic crypto investor move.

i'll laugh so hard if dmwardjr is right and altcoin season begins next month. Polo7 might just get bailed out by the market. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140701.msg53309855#msg53309855

It's the '3rd level' that intrigues me most. If ETH is 1st level and maybe Dash is 2nd level then that leaves a Mariana Trench filled with the filthiest sewage imaginable. I guess at least some of it'll come back eventually.

If there's to be another alt season I'm very curious to see what it'll look like. I wonder whether everyone's learnt their lesson. Probably not so maybe OP will out earn us all with his/her obscurities.
2655  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The reality of Merit on: December 12, 2019, 08:08:12 PM
OP clearly doesn't have a strong comprehension of English and its posts are mainly pointless questions or confirmations. I was expecting to have my wig blown off rather than the usual Google Translate bot stuff. Come back when you've got some juice to squirt in our faces
2656  Economy / Economics / Re: Can online platforms like Youtube and Facebook really be decentralized? on: December 12, 2019, 03:05:55 PM
https://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-wants-to-create-a-decentralized-standard-for-social-media/

Jack Dorsey himself has now kicked a plan into action regarding this, though it doesn't quite fit the remit completely. As noted in a tweet in that article it seems like it's more like Twitter releasing an Android-esque system and then setting it free and seeing what happens.

It would be interesting to see what a fully free for all version of the big platforms would look like. My guess is that they would be totally intolerable.
2657  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Will take brake on: December 12, 2019, 02:27:37 PM
Capital is invested into  3rd level coins...

So 'Wall St' has piled into all of those dead ICOs and forks? What a fascinating approach to, erm, investment.

Luckily I have Bitcoin God, Bitcoin Pay, Bitcoin File and probably Bitcoin Bitcoin to fall back on since the real one is being ignored. Best news I've had all week. Will this also mean someone actually starts to mine them so they can be moved to an exchange?
2658  Economy / Speculation / Re: Q4 -Quarter 4 speculation thread, where will 2019 end, join the LIST on: December 12, 2019, 01:21:23 PM
I think at least 50+ earned merit would be good

50 merit in a couple of months cuts out a lot of perfectly serviceable members who don't get noticed all that much. You can fluke 3-5 in that amount of time. 10-15 is a more solid figure.
2659  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [List] Gift cards providers on: December 12, 2019, 12:52:08 PM
Bitpay's wallet now offers in wallet gift cards. I'm in the UK and they did only offer Amazon.com gift cards. Now there's plenty of them. I guess it's going to vary as to your location.

I notice they're also offering a Mastercard digital gift card for set amounts like the other place mentioned. I've never heard of this before. Must be a new thing.
2660  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: So Richard Heart is a Bitcoin ponzi scammer too? on: December 12, 2019, 12:38:22 PM
I am now starting to believe that the cryptocurrency industry is now being trampled by many scam artists out to get as much money as they can from innocent people.

You've only just started thinking that way? I admire your stoicism.

It has and probably always will be a paradise for the immoral and predatory. Perhaps when it becomes boring that'll lessen but there will always, always be the 'next Bitcoin'. The idea is just too simple and too compelling.
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