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2741  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 24, 2015, 10:05:36 AM
You need to first recognize that God exists. Then, maybe you can start to think about finding the info and understanding about Himself that He provides for people.

Since you don't even want to accept that God exists, how can you even fathom the idea that He speaks to people through the Bible? That's why you mistakenly think that there is fallacy in what I understand about God.

I am more than willing to accept any new data which can serve to warrant changing a previously-held position, that's what the scientific process is all about and one of the typically-dishonest thing theists like to claim is evidence of how science can't possibly be right because, you know, it keeps 'changing its mind'.

Whereas what you 'know' about your god, personally, is what you 'know'. Not what can reasonably be asserted, mind, just the absolutely certainty that you are right because . . .you 'know' . . .!

That's not sufficient and is actually a highly dangerous method for defining your reality, to simply believe something by way of subjective experience. Ever read about people who jump off high buildings because they believe they can fly? Do you have any idea how convinced somebody has to be to commit to that leap?

Prior to jumping, they would not be able to objectively prove that they had good reason to believe they can fly, but they sure as hell 'know' they can fly as they jump.

Except, of course, they can't.

The exact same thought process you are so desperate to cling to is the one which convinces people they can fly.

2742  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 24, 2015, 09:45:41 AM
ORLY?

God is so "great" that such a question can't apply. Asking such a question is expressing ignorance more than simply saying something like, "God is way beyond my understanding."

So your god is so awesome and way beyond your understanding, yet you continue to claim to know quite a bit about what he wants?

Do you not see the fallacy in that?
2743  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 24, 2015, 09:38:21 AM
HAHAHAHAAAA!!! I genuinely laughed out loud at the mental gymnastics you must be having to perform to be this willfully ignorant.

I wonder whether you even believe what you write when you have to be that blatantly dishonest about how you are replying.

2744  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 24, 2015, 08:26:30 AM
One addition piece of information here is, this talk about the end of the world is not off-topic. The prophesies in the Revelation are happening. Study the Revelation, then stand back and watch. The prophesies of the Revelation are happening right now. This is part of the proof that God exists.

These, so-called, 'prophecies' are worded like astrological 'readings', they can be interpreted to suit any time and, one thing you and your ilk seem to forget, they have been heralding the impending 'end times' ever since they were written. Your death-cult is perpetually declaring the end of the world as being nigh.

Your failure to be able to critically examine the claimed 'facts' you wholeheartedly throw yourself into believing, is why you believe them, because you refuse to critically examine them.

It is a vicious cycle powered by . . .you.

2745  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 24, 2015, 08:03:35 AM
This is just sad now. Homero didn't even bother replying to their pleas.

2746  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 23, 2015, 04:02:10 PM
If I believe right and that guy from Cantor owns 43% of Gaw why is he not getting  the stick Garza is

Because at this point it looks like he's been regularly fleeced by Homero long before GAW Miners and Paycorn.

Put it this way, he was somehow convinced by Garza that a phone which pulled up customer info was cutting-edge enough to warrant further investment. This was not in the 1980's.

2747  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 23, 2015, 11:09:45 AM
Both sides are presenting the same argument that eventually leads to what we deem "theory"

Are they fuck the same argument. You're simply demonstrating your ignorance about the meaning of the scientific term, 'Theory'.

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A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.

A scientific theory is rooted in an hypothesis which is still considerably superior a starting point as it requires a reasonable basis for formulating it in the first place.

The theist 'theory' you are alluding as being equal to that which is borne of objective processes, is the layman's meaning of the word, 'theory', which is equal to, "Hey, I have a theory about [insert arbitrary claim here]". Which is not at all the same thing and is usually less a sound theory and more wild speculation.



2748  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 23, 2015, 05:39:34 AM
FYI, you need to check up on the meaning of the word, 'fallacious' it does not mean, 'a tasty blow-job'.

You are dumb period.

You'll also be needing to check up on the meaning of the term, "Ad hominem", it is not a commercial for a gay white rapper.

See, your failure to understand and practice intellectual honesty leads you to make baseless assertions as though they were fact and to utilise your 'absolute certainty' in the belief it lends credence to your almighty imagination
God is a consciousness, a power without any form, he made the universe and put in rules in it (Laws). He gave organisms free will to do anything they like, no questions asked. One cannot in any way blame God for anything. He made a game for us to play, if we perform badly or die in the game, we dont blame the creator.

See, you're asserting something yet the basis by which you are asserting it is entirely fallacious.

You lack intellectual integrity. That is not an ad-hominem, that is a rational observation derived from the data you have thus far presented, namely, confidently asserted wild speculation as fact.
2749  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 22, 2015, 03:57:51 PM
Hi Fluffer. Your Overblow isn't going to protect you from the reality of death. Come join us in the New Universe God is preparing for all who love Him.

Smiley

Nah, I prefer the New Universe that a god I just imagined is creating for me and any other cool person who knows that your god is a cruel merciless narcissistic egomaniacal bastard.

Thanks for playing though.

 
2750  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 22, 2015, 07:16:34 AM
Im out guys, you guys are dumber than i thought

Bitcoin came out of thin air, nobody created it because i cannot see him Cheesy

FYI, you need to check up on the meaning of the word, 'fallacious' it does not mean, 'a tasty blow-job'.

2751  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 22, 2015, 06:06:58 AM
How did gravity even become a thing? Who decided there needs to be a gravitational power to keep us grounded? Did the earth decided itself?

Oh for fuck's sake, are you genuinely this ill-educated or just pretending to be?

Try going to a museum

The 'Creation Museum' doesn't count, by the way, Xtians.
2752  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 22, 2015, 05:20:48 AM

Are you saying all the planets, the stars, the universe which we know 0.000000000001% about just came out of thin air?               http://scaleofuniverse.com/

No, there must be a creator, there are other unexplained things beyond the average mind who can only pull out just a dumb science card


Look, I know you lot love to play your game of pretending-real-hard in order to convince yourself and each other of the validity of your 'facts', but please don't make statements like "there must be a creator", when the fact is there doesn't have to be a creator at all, a CREATION EVENT, yes, in terms of how this Universe came into existence, but it is a whole 'nother thing to fallaciously conclude that, because we don't know yet, then . . .god.

Put it this way, ANYTHING posited as a possible mechanism by which this Universe came to be is more likely than simply dreaming up some omnipotent deity, ANYTHING.

Seriously, to make a statement centered around our level of scientific advancement, by way of "we can't do [xxxx] so . . .god" is fallacious.

To make a statement centered around, "we don't know . . . therefore god" is fallacious.

Using your imagination to assert something as factual isn't just fallacious, it's utter bollocks.

2753  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 21, 2015, 03:09:32 PM
Really?  So in your crack legal analysis, all coin ICOs must be public, open to all?  You cannot limit for accredited investor status?  You cannot limit participation by criminals?  You cannot simply pick your friends?  This is a new legal idea, the ICo must be open to all.  Please enlighten us on the laws which require such.

No, that is not what I said at all. Nice try though.

What I said is that if it is not 'open to all' then there must be a qualifying set of conditions, which are defined by a governing body. It is this instance that then exposes the 'governing body' to liability for the project by way of them asserting their authority over the coin project.

Which is ENTIRELY different from declaring that all ICO's *must* be open to all.

Your legalese kung fu is extremely weak.
2754  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 21, 2015, 02:45:02 PM
Consider this:  If instead of hard forking, the same folks get together and create a new coin called Paycoin Redux (PAX).  They do an ICO in which any holder of XPY can obtain equivalent value pro rata percentage of PAX coin by exhanging their XPY for PAX; except Josh and any person or entity that can be identified with Josh as an affiliate or family member is banned from ICO participation.  The XPY exchanged is destroyed.  The result of this would be exactly the same as a hard fork, but you cannot possibly claim anything morally, ethically or legally wrong with that.

Oh Em Effing Gee! Do not go making statements you are clearly unqualified to make.

The establishment of a group responsible for determining the legitimacy, or otherwise, of those seeking to trade one coin for another confers the notion of authority and, as such, ownership of the project. If there is anything that the owners of a cryptocurrency project can be charged with, in terms of breaching various national or international laws, the governing body of the project would be held accountable.

I don't think I'd sleep particularly well at night putting my nuts on the line to try and keep this monstrosity alive for 'the sake of the community'.

If it isn't 'open to all' then the governing body is taking responsibility for vetting those who it is open to.

One word: Minefield.

2755  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 21, 2015, 01:02:28 PM

Cynical and obvious schtick is cynical and obvious.
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Stuart Fraser of Cantor Fitzgerald

Text messages and emails between Garza and Stuart Fraser reveal a friendship dating back an unknown number of years. Seeing him as the father he never had, Garza texts Fraser:

Just wanted to thank you for all your have done. Much of who I have become today is because of you. I did not have much of a father growing up, and you have very much been that for me throughout much of my life. Love you buddy, josh

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More than love, Garza comes across as desperate for the admiration and respect of his mentor. Not only does Garza buy Fraser a car for Christmas, but the two have financial dealings which see Garza selling a 41% share of his operation to Fraser as well as organising various loans.

Firstly, he didn't buy Stuart a car for Christmas, he said he'd gift his Tesla to him in an attempt to get him off his back about the amount of money owed, then changed his mind and said Stu could buy it off him for a good price, before finally giving in shortly before Xmas day and awkwardly presenting it to him, still with 'Garza' vanity plate, as though he were doing him a huge favour. Trouble is he still has plenty of outstanding payments due on it!

From what I can gather, Homero owes EVERYTHING to Stu, who was clearly being tapped for large amounts of capital over the preceding years on the basis of whatever bullshit Garza was routinely spinning him at a place he references as Mt Snow

It strikes me that Stu was being fed non-stop techno-babble that sounded like it was the sort of 'innovation' which could lead to 'The Next Big Thing' and he was suckered into helping Homero finance his business ventures which apparently required the use of expensive cars long before he moved into fractional-reserve 'virtual mining', otherwise known as a Ponzi scheme.

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Going foard, here is what I am thinking, we will create a equal partnership (50/50) in our holding company "Geniuses At Work Corporation", you can have the voting power (I dont care). I will put in everything I have built:

– My equity stake in CP
– Any patents Joe or I create
– My entire voice platform
– The new App system (the one we talked about at Mt snow)
– smart-tech
– GAW Labs
– Joe deal (I know you probably figure this is assumed, but the equity in GAW Labs (voice system) is how we are doing the deal)

In other words, I would split every deal and every system I have developed with you.

Here is what I would like:

– 10k per month investment paid to Geniuses at Work Corporation for 24 months (to pay myself with). I have coninued to lower my salary over the last few years (not complaining about)
– Forgive the hillcrest debt (around 230k)
– Allow me to live down the investment you made in GAW in the past. I feel so bad every time its brought up. I will still/always continue to try and recoup your losses.
– The 150k that you have already agreed to, per the term sheet we reviewed at your house. But I would like for this to only be a "*one time*" infusion. On other words, its *not* perpetual, and there is *no* exsepction of farther investment
– Help with Howard on CP

What Homero Joshua Garza was thinking was that he'd get to consolidate some of his debt into a new structure where he'd be giving Uncle Stu even more share capital in a bunch of useless companies, while also requiring that several hundred thousand dollars of previous debt be forgiven because, you know, he's just sick of hearing about it all the time, right?!
2756  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 21, 2015, 07:21:11 AM
If any one reads the Phoenix Journals, then invariably s/he will choose to conclude that the Journals are the WORD. Then, one will understand that GOD IS. MAN PLACES LIMITATIONS--GOD HAS NONE! Here are some highly relevant quotes:

http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/loonytunesunlimited

Oh wow, I hadn't even realised quite how unhinged you truly are Jag! So some delusional lunatic posts about how he is an inter-dimensional being and you, what, just believe him?

Is that how it works or are you claiming there's actual evidence that he is an inter-dimensional galactic commander?

2757  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 21, 2015, 05:37:25 AM

So because GAW never established any checks and balances, any corporate polices on behavior everyone got to do what ever they liked.  Customer Support did not exist because there was no policy for it.  It was up to the individual support rep to decide how they treat a customer unless they are told by management to fuck em.


Well, they were able to sniff out that taylan unal employee that stole from them, so that's some kind of oversight, at least.

Oversight? Did you read that particular email exchange? I believe it went something like this:

GAW1: Hey GAW2
GAW2: Ummm, yeah?
GAW1: One moment
GAW2: OMGOMGOMGOMGOM I'm so sorry I don't know what I was thinking I just started using some of the discount vouchers and I was going to pay it back honestly but it just kinda ran away from me I can't believe I did this I am crying so hard that snot is dribbling down my chin please don't fire me I hate myself . . . .
GAW1: Huh? Wut? I mean, *cough*, yeah that was what I was going to speak to you about, you're in serious trouble young man.


2758  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Miracles of Bible... on: April 20, 2015, 03:19:27 PM
Wasn't the whole point about this thread being created in response to the now-closed-because-the-damn-atheists-wouldn't-stop-disproving-our-claims-about-the-koran-itself-being-evidence-of-miracles thread, so that the Xtians could prove their 'holy' book was also evidence of the miraculous?

Simply spouting text from the stories about supposed miracles that took place isn't the same thing. The Muslims claimed that their text contained knowledge that COULD NOT have been known at the time by mortal man, albeit, these claims were rapidly shot down in flames as the absurd string of fallacious arguments they were, but their thread was at least about the claim towards trying to show their book as being more special than yours, Xtians.

So you can't just roll out a list of 'miraculous' events, as this is not the same thing as showing your eclectic collection of highly-edited-over-the-centuries cherry-picked old-and-new testament fables possess within them a quality which, by the mere fact of inclusion, serves as evidence that your book is moar speshul.

At this point it looks like you're losing. Come on Xtians! Make an effort here otherwise your book will, too, simply end up looking like it is, in fact, just a collection of highly-edited-over-the-centuries cherry-picked old-and-new testament fables.

2759  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 18, 2015, 08:19:15 AM
Josh ignores Dan's advice

http://picosong.com/Xydv/

holy shit ... seriously ... wow.

I know, right? People were trying to get him to reign things in and understand how he was exposing everybody to potentially serious criminal charges and he just kept on swinging at his detractors and calling it a 'conspiracy' of FUD.

2760  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Miracles of Bible... on: April 17, 2015, 04:01:47 PM
Are you forbidding me from talking about what I want in the thread I created?

 Grin


By all means, Willy, talk about Communism if you like, just change the title of the thread to not be "Miracles of the Bible" unless you can somehow tie in Stalinism with a bronze-age eclectic collection of myths and fables.
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