It is a Ponzi, that's why it is in 'Investor-based games' sub-forum, on the basis that the only 'investment' going on is in the idea that you might be able to eventually withdraw your funds with a profit off the back of other suckers coming later to the scam, before it eventually collapses.

It is almost as if they think the SWAT team will just shrug their shoulders and be all, "Awww shucks! We were pranked into thinking there was an armed conflict here. Never mind, let's go home and not bother tracking down who made the false report".

Consequence. It isn't just a word.

No, it does not put a more positive spin on things. That money-monitor website is just a Ponzi promo service, no different from the, equally shilly cmmonitor.com 'cloud mining' monitor.

Recyclix explicitly state in their T&C's they are paying users out with other users funds.

Which part of that confuses you? It is a ponzi-based scam, their small print tells you it is a ponzi-based based scam.

This isn't rocket-surgery, people. Use your brains.

Funny that, considering the OP has been compared to GermanGiant who also came running to you to whine about his ratings at the exact same time RussianRaibow came running to me to try the "I am the new owner of this account, therefore noscam!" bollocks.

See, this is what happens when people buy and sell accounts, a business based almost entirely on fraud and deception and promoted by sellers who have access to multiple forum accounts and frequently use them to provide some sock-puppet support to their alts or even fraudulently conduct 'escrow' trade deals with themselves as both the 'escrow' and the trading partner.

Hey, Vitamin King, there is little point in posting the key parts of your post history in this thread because it is all pretty much the exact same promotion of CM, although if you can't see for yourself how obvious-shill-is-obvious then you are either lying or an idiot. In any event, you continue to promote a known ponzi scheme as though it is a legitimate cloud mining service, even though you know it isn't. That makes you untrustworthy.


I'm starting to believe that QS is suffering from a serious mental disorder, he certainly displays definite symptoms of dysfunctional neurology/psychology. No joke.

There goes another irony-meter.

^^^ This.


Have you seen your post history? You even keep reposting the same promotional content from previous posts from months earlier. You are actively trying to encourage others to join what is clearly a ponzi-based scam and it looks very similar to kind of spam GermanGiant has been posting, too.

That you have posted *some* negative comments here and there is no different to the sort of tactics used by shills to try and avoid the accusation they only speak positively about a scam.

Oh I see, like that is it, QS? Done having your tantrum over being put in your place about your transparent attempts to deflect from the truth that you are a proven and even self-confessed scammer and now are looking to make wild accusations about me, for which you have absolutely no evidence and will never have any evidence because it is, unsurprisingly considering you are involved, a big fat fucking lie.

Here's the thing, the Trust system allows people to rate negatively if you have reason to suspect a person is a scammer.

You scammed people by performing 'escrow' trades with yourself. That is fraud. You even admit to having done it.

Which part of that behaviour qualifies you as being trustworthy? Ergo, the rating I gave you is correct.

As for RussianRaibow, GermanGiant and SpanishSoldier, check the history and you will see that it has already been proven they are connected to the cloudmining.website scam.

Seems that scammers with an axe to grind are starting to get shitty because more and more people are making it harder for them to operate so easily around here.

I can confirm that Alpha Tech has just paid the full amount of the five-figure judgement against them, albeit a month after the court deadline and only after I had engaged dcbltd.com to enforce it.

Whether it was because DCBL enforcements are featured on a UK television reality series and Muhammed didn't want to risk the public humiliation, or it is simply down to Alpha getting refinanced in some fashion and trying to keep the creditors at bay, I don't know.

But glad to finally have resolved it.

It's almost as if he believes nobody knows about Coinfire's actual history when it comes to getting the scoop on three-letter-agency investigations into this industry.

Do they think Coinfire would piss away all the credibility they earned with their GAW/Garza/Paycoin reporting, on publishing a similar expose about Cryptsy but for it not to be supported by the same standard of evidence?

Cryptsy would have done better to have spun a little more of a reasonable response into their statement, at least along the lines of admitting that, due to the situation with Garza they were cooperating with the ongoing investigation and that the allegations they were implicated in wrongdoing were false.

*That* would have at least been a sensible way to react, instead of their ridiculous knee-jerkery of denying absolutely everything and anything and then trying to question Coinfire's credibility, in the face of a proven history of their journalism being on the mark!

Swing and a miss, Vern.

Jesus Fucking Christ, QS, is this all you've got in your locker, to post reams of absurdity where Vod proclaims himself to be God?

Here's the thing, Vod can proclaim himself to be God all he likes, it still doesn't change the fact that you were caught out demonstrably being untrustworthy and as a result you received negative trust ratings.

Which part of the process confuses you? Is it the bit where your obvious personality disorders are screaming at you in your head about how unfair everybody is being over the tiny matter of you fraudulently performing escrowed trades with yourself? After all, everybody else is to blame, in some way, for something, and besides, erm, reasons. Give it up, you were caught being untrustworthy and your ratings correctly reflect that fact. Accept it.



Anyway, of course Vod is not God, I am and so's my wife.

So after all this time is nobody mentioning the fact it is a proven fraud? Surely they can't be that . . .oh, nevermind.

Where did you see that it was used by 'many people' but nowhere was it mentioned it is a criminal fraud?

I know. So which part of buying a high-ranking account in order to take part in signature campaigns whereby people believe a 'senior' forum member is supporting the campaign, thereby lending it a degree of undeserved credibility, is not dishonest?

If the intention is to mislead for personal gain, then the act of buying a high-ranking forum account is absolutely evidence of somebody being demonstrably untrustworthy.

We? Are you talking about yourself or are you speaking on behalf of this scam op?

I am not countering with 'evidence' I am countering with an explanation for why what you consider to be 'evidence' does not qualify as such.

Big difference.

Let me give you an example:

You show me a room full of a hundred people sitting at desks frantically tapping away on computer keyboards, writing. You say that they all claim to be 'channelling' information from time-travelling space beings. I say to you that there is no reason to believe they are not simply experiencing the neurological disorder, 'hypergraphia' as it is a recognised disorder and a condition which affects a small percentage of the population, often for a relatively short period of time. You respond by saying, "Ok, I'll accept that the majority are probably suffering from that condition but I will insist that at least one of them must be genuinely channelling information from time-travelling space beings.

Trouble is, you have no basis for asserting such a thing when there is long recorded history of recognising and understanding the medical condition, 'hypergraphia' in humans, many of whom claim to be writing some sort of 'secret knowledge' and there is absolutely no recorded history of it being found, instead, to be a case of a human being channelling information from time-travelling space beings.


Another example would be the wild claims made by Mellen-Thomas Benedict, if you read the actual full thread I linked to which breaks down in more detail where the many, many problems with his claims are, a similar position to the above is reached. We have a long and recorded history of people claiming they have experienced something 'mystical', but no objective evidence of such a thing actually occurring. He lays claim to having been lauded by medical science for miraculously being able to describe some genetic 'fix' that needed to be made and how they were all congratulating him months later when it turned out he had helped them achieve some incredible scientific leaps of progress. Conveniently, however, he pulls a 'Josh Garza' and makes sure to throw in how he had to signed various Non-disclosure agreements which ensures that neither he nor any of the scientists he said he worked with are allowed to discuss anything about his 'miraculous insight'.

The only 'evidence' you have for his claims are his claims, which is known as the fallacy of 'circular reasoning'. Therefore it is not acceptable as evidence.

Every single 'scientific' point that NDE website cites as 'proof' is grossly flawed. We've been here before and unless you are willing to strike out each one I objectively debunk, I am not going to waste my time doing so only for you to go back and cite them again because you're incapable of rational thought and unwilling to recognise that you are probably caught up in the 'sunk cost' fallacy, which is the fact you have expended so much time and energy in making this a core element of your identity and belief that you would rather maintain intellectual dishonesty in the face of critical analysis than accept the actual truth.

I'm going to regret this, I know, because this thread has long become the stomping ground of the delusional, the clinically insane and the downright dangerous (I recall catching a comment a while back from some psycho stating that he believed atheists should die. WTF?)

But, here goes, this is directed at Bl4kjaguar, a guy who bases his belief on the validity of "The Phoenix Journals" by way of stating how an old lady wrote a shit-ton of books during a short period, so, you know, totallymustbelegit, while he absolutely ignores the fact that the psychological disorder, Hypergraphia, is far more likely behind these writings and, asides from that, they are just rambling bullshit.


This entire site, the very crux of your belief, no, your insistence that SCIENCE has proven that our mind is capable of survival after brain death, is grossly flawed due to the fact that it is absolutely chock full of argument fallacies.

Why, for example do they put such stock in citing such irrelevance as,
Elsevier has has been exposed a number of times for having published fake journals. But, in any event, it is an, 'Appeal to authority' fallacy. The publisher is irrelevant if the paper still fails critical analysis.

Other citations, such as articles from plosone.org, are also not immune from criticism:
Publication does not equal peer-review-approval. In fact it doesn't equal peer-reviewed anything, because it doesn't have to be peer-reviewed, hence the fact that plosone.org contains a great many 'research' papers that are simply appallingly bad science.

Let me give you an example of how easy it is to shred those absurd pieces of 'evidence' you like to insist are valid data. See http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence.html#a20 Mellen-Thomas Benedict, a guy who came up with an idea for improving the design of a fucking glass-cutter and claims to have assisted in huge scientific medical breakthoughs:
Except, of course, outside of his book, they ALWAYS have a book to sell, there is no valid reference to him doing ANY of this. To save on thread space, here is a full debunking of that charlatan: http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23994

Bl4kjaguar, either you are genuinely wanting to establish the truth of the matter, in which case you will want to seriously consider the actual fact that the websites you base your 'knowledge' on are shockingly poor references for anything objectively scientific, or you are so far gone into full blown psychotic delusion that you will refuse to consider you may be wrong and that you have accepted the word of people for whom there is profit in convincing people like you to believe their stories.

Allen might as well have thrown in, "He's ugly, smelly and nobody likes him" to complete the collection of argument fallacies he employs in that bullshit post.

Besides which, why is he claiming at the end that the guy is intentionally trying to prevent the group action from succeeding?

Let's see, you have a post history of repeatedly trying to hype dying coins with bullshit claims about super-secret insider-info and you come into this thread yesterday to copy-paste the same bullshit move, coupled with a sponsorship of XPY on Bittrex (I don't know the exact figure but I believe it is only a few btc to do so) and then a spike in trading volume occurs shortly afterwards which is certainly likely to involve a lot of back-and-forth fake trades and the most hilarious thing about this whole shitshow is . . .

You want us to believe you know nothing about any of it.

I'm *this* close to slapping you with negative trust for such a blatant lie and attempt to manipulate the market for your own scammy gain.

If you don't think it is absolutely obvious to everybody what the whole routine you were trying to pull yesterday was about then you are dumber than I thought.

Hahaha! Nicely done, sir.

*tips cap*