Now you're being selective about the lies Techshare tells.
Again, you have failed to read the post, and completely missed the point. I will assume good faith, and assume that you are not intentionally misinterpreting my posts (3 times today) in order to distract the discussion. When you leave someone a negative rating claiming "X", "X" should be true. Leaving someone a negative feedback for "X" (ie: 'lying about me') when you cannot prove or even substitute X is inappropriate. |
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Hmm I'm going to take a wild guess here but probably because Vod hasn't posted any lies about Techshare and IS NOT trying to get him removed from the Default Trust since he was already removed.
Once again, you are missing the point entirely by reading a couple of words individually and literally. Please re-read the thread, specially the 'This is clearly mocking the negative feedback Vod has left TECSHARE' part. iCEBREAKER is expressing the absurdity of Vod's negative feedback by copying it and applying it to Vod. Please also read http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/parody and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire first. |
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Techshare has stated in this thread that he has no alts or shills.
If this is proven false will you concede his statement in post #10 to be a lie?
Irrelevant, please don't try to muddy the waters: "Constantly posts lies about me in an effort to have me removed from the default trust list."We are asking for a substantiation of his trust rating, that is, a lie that TECSHARE made about VOD. |
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Hilariously, Vod has just left iCEBREAKER negative trust after iCEBREAKER gave him neg trust for this incident. Vod is claiming that iCEBREAKER has "lied" about him, again with no substantiation of how he supposedly "lied". I made a new thread about this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916867.0 |
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iCEBREAKER recently left Vod the following feedback:
"Constantly posts lies about TECSHARE in an effort to have him removed from the default trust list. Honest discussion is one thing, but he just posts BS with absolutely no basis.
Not trustworthy."
(This is clearly mocking the negative feedback Vod has left TECSHARE).
In response, Vod has left negative feedback for iCEBREAKER:
"Possibly hacked account.
Posted the following feedback on my account: "Constantly posts lies about TECSHARE in an effort to have him removed from the default trust list. Honest discussion is one thing, but he just posts BS with absolutely no basis. Not trustworthy."
TECSHARE isn't on the default trust list. Not sure why this user would be lying about me in this way."
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Vod, can you please explain how iCEBREAKER "lied" about you?
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He never could on the five pages of my thread, he won't here. All he has on me was saying he laughed and yelled in a pm, which wasnt what he said, simply the context I took from the pm.
I called him a liar, he also stated I was clearly not a canadian. So he is allowed to make an assumption, produce a lie based on it, and not have any repercussions, but when a member is wronged or insulted and get's mad. That's the end for them?
This, as well. Vod, can you quote any lie that takagari or TECSHARE has made, that justifies a negative trust rating? If either of them has deleted / edited anything, I'm sure the admins can recover it. |
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Why is it this laissez faire attitude was not applied to me?
This thread is for Vod, I understand that you feel you've been treated very unfairly but the thread would be more useful if we focus on the specific incident at hand -- ie, vod leaving you negative trust without substantiation, in what appears to be an attempt at stifling speech. |
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Is lying or slander a good reason to leave someone negative feedback (free speech is irrelevant)? Personally I don't think it's so black and white, more of a grey area [..]
True, it's not black and white. But in this instance, Vod has not justified any supposed "lies" that TECSHARE has made regarding him. I've skimmed through TECSHARE's posting history and I don't see any 'lies' or 'slander'. Vod seems to have the assumption that you are only allowed the discuss the behavior of him in a few isolated, carefully worded posts. If you continue to post about him and how he should be removed from DefaultTrust, despite not slandering, you are throwing "FUD" and he negatively trusts you. Vod, how about doing what has been requested in page 1 -- quote the "lies" or "slander" TECSHARE has made? |
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Do you remember the details behind the negative trust you left takagari? It was left in September 2013 which is I believe when your opinion was highly valued and you were still trusted. There is a thread in meta regarding his reputation, feel free to chime in. Done, thanks. |
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I expect more ad hominems in this thread.
Appreciate someone like you starting this thread though.
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And yes, takagari has verified with CoinLenders before and is from Canada.
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takagari defaulted on a loan but I don't consider him to be a scammer.
Vod needs to be removed from DefaultTrust.
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"Spreads FUD - calls me a liar, and a fool." is a highly inappropriate comment to leave as a negative trust rating. Calling someone a liar in no way justifies a negative trust, like Vod has given, and is contradictory to the forum's policy of free speech. I expect more ad hominems in this thread, but in any case Vod needs to be removed from defaulttrust for multiple instances of power tripping.
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I simply cannot imagine a scenario of CEX tripping belly up. What could happen? Alien invasion? An earthquake? A meteorite?
Even if the price of GH/s falls to zero they do not care because they charge for the maintenance costs. At some stage they will just turn off the miners but in this production cycle the old miners will be replaced by the new ones with better GH/s vs costs of electricity ratio. They can prolong this game as long as there are miners in existence and people willing to buy more hashing power at better prices. Pricewise they are fary ahead of any competition and they are selling very expensive GH/s with very expensive maintenance fees. For this money they can have cutting edge technology solar powered DC with dirt cheap miners.
That's why I think CEX is well and far from falling.
cex has solar power for the miners? If this is true that is so awesome alternative energy powering the alternative $$$$ i like the ring of that. If cex would cut maint fees by 50% of what they are now i think people would be all over them in a heart beat. I know i for sure would invest more in them maybe a whole 1 or 2 btc lol dont laugh im poor i know  If they have solar power energy they have higher costs. To cut the maintenance fees by 50% and still make money, they would need to move in a cheaper country and really think low cost. The price per GHS would go up a lot. if they use solar power they might have higher costs at the start to buy solar panels and set up. Then thats all you spend the rest is used to ROI on power bill / solar panels. Most places i think are like 2-6 years dependind on cost of energy and amount of sunlight For solar panels, ROI depends on how much the state is subsidizing the buying. i guess you are right about that had forgot alot of states in the usa was offering to pay off some of the cost to get new solar panels for residental homes not sure if apply to company Solar energy is usually more expensive but if you take into account the state subsidy or special situations (you have a home away from everything), you might ROI Even with subsidies, solar energy is more expensive then other, "traditional" sources of energy. Not only that but solar subsides are generally only available to households and cannot be claimed by places like data centers that would be buying massive amounts of solar panels to power what is in their center You are correct but maybe you can ROI if you are in the few states where the electricity cost and the public incentive to buy solar panels are high. These states generally allow people with solar panels to sell electricity back to the grid at retail prices so you would still effectively be paying the same rate. Not only that but it would make sense to house your miners someplace that electric costs are very cheap and electricity is plentiful If you can sell the electricity at retail price (sometimes maybe higher), it doesn't mean you are paying the same rate because your costs may have been higher. No, if you are using your miners with your solar electricity in a place with high electric costs then you are still paying the high electric costs because if you were not using your electricity on your miners then you would be selling it back to the grid at retail rates Except when you sell back to the grid, the amount you get is a small fraction of it -- especially after you take in account the connection fees which are designed to hurt solar users. |
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Theymos is the only who can check IP FYI
And BadBear. |
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You use Bitcoin to claim, I believe it directly helps and effects BTC + brings more value.
Not saying it doesn't belong in the alt section, but I think this is worthy of here due to how directly connected to BTC it is + doesn't take any mining power away.
There are numerous altcoins that distributed altcoins to those who can sign with Bitcoin addresses. That doesn't change the fact it's an altcoin, or the fact that this belongs in alternate cryptocurrency. |
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This belongs in altcoins, doesn't accept Bitcoin at all.
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I think the end must be near. My 5 BTC withdrawal has been on hold for 17 hours. Guess they needed to run the the "cold storage" vaults for such a large amount lol. While we are on the death watch, I thought it would be fun to revisit my predictions from the old thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.msg9193886#msg9193886 which have now come true. Predictions. The following is pure speculation. I will probably get some wrong, but I bet I get the gist of it right.
A) GAW will start to offer a new product through hashbase that will offer many of the features Josh has promised for Primes such as multiple algos and reduced cost. These new hashlets (or maybe some other name under hashbase) will be more expensive than solos just as in the case of Zen Hashlets. Just as with Zenhashlets, the new hashlet or hashbase-let will be just as profitable as prime hashlets so people will think they are getting a bargain when they pay $25 or so more mhs. Prime owners will have the ability to upgrade to the new hashlet for free so that promise will be kept, but only if the prime owner is willing to take a ride on the new hashlet train and convert to the new hashlet schema.
Check. Hashstaker Primes anyone? Free upgrades! Even better than the original Prime Hashlet! The next evolution of not-mining miners. By the way, doesn't Hashstaker Prime make you think of Pondarosa Steakhouse? B) The new hashlet (or whatever it is called) will lack one important feature - it will not have a market and private sales (except through resellers of course) will be banned. GAW will probably justify this by saying that having a market encouraged speculation and whiners like me to take down morale. Or maybe they will cite concerns about security or fraud. So no more sales. This is essential to enable GAW and its resellers to market new hashlets -- otherwise, the "used" hashlet market will set a market price that will be lower than what GAW/resellers sell for. Resellers (and the moderators who speak for resellers on hashtalk) will love this. There will be shill accounts (most likely resellers) who will applaud GAW for getting rid of the buggy and problematic market. Anyone who questions it will be downvoted out of existence on hashtalk.
75% proven. The "new" Hashstaker Prime will not be sale-able on the market until the upgrade process is complete - at least 2 weeks. Look for longer delays and excuses to make this a 100% proven prediction. More importantly, you have the "stake" your paycoins for 6 months in order to get ROI - which ensures a large amount of locked up investment. C) GAW may keep its promise not to create new Prime hashlets, but a large number of prime hashlets will mysteriously become available possibly through resellers or the market. Since hashlets are virtual anyway, GAW or its resellers could have millions in virtual inventory and still be truthful when saying no new primes will be created. Now that GAW has cleared out all of the whiners like me who wanted out at a lower price, they may be able to support a higher price in a market for a while and keep selling them directly via the market or indirectly via resellers.
This was previously established through the reseller fiasco that led to 25:1 sales of hashlets due to supposed hackers. D) GAW will, eventually, shut the whole project down when the SEC and/or FTC get involved and start asking questions. GAW will blame government regulations for the reason for shutting down, saying that the U.S. is out of touch with the next big thing but that, they have to comply and that means shutting down. This will only happen when sales of new miners plateau.
GAW has already said in the WSJ article (quoting Josh) that GAW must link "every cent" of profits for hashlets to mining in order to avoid SEC trouble (which, IMHO, would still not be sufficient). Josh has also said that Zenpool relies on coin ICOs and lending miners among other non-mining activity to account for profits in the Zenpool... Hmmm. Lets call this one not-yet-happened but close. Nice predictions. I have feeling Josh Garza is going to be sharing a cell with Trendon Shavers.. |
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Blazr should be removed / excluded from DefaultTrust. I think I've provided more than enough evidence, and Blazr's feedback for r3wt is quite blatant circumstantial evidence. |
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imgur works perfectly fine for me when i try to imbed images.
The image is first downloaded by the forum's image proxy, which is what you request to view it. Works 90% of the time, but it has additional restrictions on file size, load time and every now and then goes full derp and selectively displays content. Which is particularly interesting because the forum earns much more than enough money to afford infrastructure for a decent image proxy.. |
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