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301  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with eating meat? on: April 23, 2014, 12:55:31 AM

(Sorry for taking a long time to answer, this discussion made me hungry ^^ )
First, all of these nutriments can be found in eggs and dairy, so it supports my main point that we can get all nutriments without eating meat.
Still, some things are misleading in the article.

1- Vitamin D can be obtained from exposure to the sun, and is available in green vegetables (except D3, but the sun gives enough of it with a few minutes a day of exposure).

2- Creatine might be important for bodybuilders, but our livers produces enough of it on its own for regular individuals if we eat a balanced amount of amino acids from the sources which I mentionned earlier.

3- Carnosine. The arguments used in the article are: "This nutrient can reduce damage caused by elevated blood glucose and may have strong anti-aging effects." Thus, someone without blood-glucose problem and who does not have a lifestyle that causes premature aging is not affected by deffiency in it.

4- Omega 3. These are found in considerable quantity in a number of vegetarian food, especially in hemp seeds, flaxseeds, seaweed, beans, mangos, and other.

5- B12: That's a delicate subject. Many scientific articles arrive at different conclusions regarding its sources; there are good reason to believe that it can be found in sufficient quantities in fermented food like sauerkraut, and that the microorganism that live in our gut produces enough of it for us to survive; if we have an healthy gut flora, that is. However, even if that is not the case, supplements of B12 are found in all non-vegetarian produce substitutes like soy milk, and you should know that nowadays, most B12 that is found in animals is given to them as supplements, since the poor diet we feed them with does not permit them to produce enough. So vegan or non-vegan, the B12 comes from supplement anyways.

TL;DR
These nutriments are harder to find for vegans, but with a bit of effort one can avoid deffiancy in any of them.
Of course, eating eggs and dairy solves the problem entirely.
While this may be right you COULD, and hear me out on this one, eat meat, and not have to worry about your intake of seeds.
Soy products are still not anywhere near equal meat protein due to the estrogen-like substance in it, no matter what you say.

Besides the article wasn't about vital nutriments, just basically stating it's more efficient to just eat meat if you want to control your intake.
About the vitamin D, it's not fair to say "you get it from the sun". In the northern part of the world you will not get your daily requirement during the winter half year, which is a fact. Basically everyone in Scandinavia when being tested for vitamin D deficiency are under the line of what's recommended, and up to 10% of the population in Sweden are at values low enough to risk being directly damaging.
302  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn up to 2.4 BTC/Month by Posting on: April 23, 2014, 12:47:24 AM
Honestly, I take my total post count and take off 15%, that's usually fair estimate.

How does that work if Ritz's payments are automatic?

I have no clue, I guess its there problem? Just noticed that, assumed that you would PM them like I did with Stuna. Thought enrollment was automatic....

Best PM him in advance then telling him to auto deduct 15% from your total Wink haha.

Haha or naw  Cheesy
Ritz's payment isn't 'automatic', he checks posts and pays for the constructive ones. The enrolling however is done automatically, and there's no need to PM him anything.
303  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: April 23, 2014, 12:45:43 AM
Just as long as the last sentence in my post is a question I've followed the rules of the thread, haven't I?

This is correct?

I would think that the question posted in the reply ought to be a single sentence, should it not?

Are you referring to my post?

More of a general statement, don't you think?

What do you mean?
I don't think there's a sentence limitation, as long as the sentences are related to each other and in the end of the post form a question, doesn't that make sense?
304  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with eating meat? on: April 23, 2014, 12:00:28 AM
Which alternatives of protein intake are just as good as meat proteins? Shoot.

Sure Smiley
Any kind of beans - not just soy. Also there's nuts, seeds. Cereal-based products are good too, even bread (just look at the nutritional label), but more specifically whole-grain cereals like couscous, quinoa, bulgur, and others. Some vegetables like avocado, broccoli and spinach also contain a considerable amount of proteins. Of course there are also the non-vegan options like eggs and dairy, but they are not necessary.

If you have a balanced alimentation, it's actually quite easy to eat enough proteins.
http://authoritynutrition.com/5-brain-nutrients-in-meat-fish-eggs/
Sadly you can't only eat plants. :/
305  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: check if you can find most updated free bitcoin sites here on: April 22, 2014, 11:53:25 PM
Sorry, didn't like this one, at least the looks of it. Prefer www.earnbtc.weebly.com
306  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is there a way to make bitcoins without mining on: April 22, 2014, 11:50:43 PM
If you have some time to spare to watch videos or do some simple tasks, you can try bitcoinget .You wouldn't earn a lot though.

When BTC was trading at $100 or so, Bitcoinget was offering really good rates to watch the videos. It was possible to earn 1-2 mBTC every day from them, by spending just a few minutes. But now they have reduced their rates.
Well, their rates are still relative to the price aren't they? If we'd see a 10 time multiplier in price today the payments from Bitcoinget would add up to a nice little sum.
307  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 0.06 BTC giveaway on: April 22, 2014, 11:49:26 PM
I'll start a new round, will create a new post later.
So this competition is over? Who was the winner?
308  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with eating meat? on: April 22, 2014, 11:48:46 PM
Kuroman, your argument is invalid. Eating meat triggered evolution because it was the most available source of complete proteins and nutriments for our ancestors, thus giving us an advantage over herbivores. However, there are alternatives which are just as good now, less wasteful, and more ethical.

I haven't read the whole thread.
Hopefully by now someone mentioned how wasteful modern meat production is.
The amount of water and grain used by cattle is staggering.
+1. Add to that soil and water pollution caused by having a huge amount of animal in the same space.
Which alternatives of protein intake are just as good as meat proteins? Shoot.
309  Economy / Services / Re: [WTS] 1 MILLION Youtube views on: April 22, 2014, 11:47:56 PM
1 mil views with 500 likes/disliked would seem suspicious. Why would anyone pay for that. You'll surely be warned by youtube as well..
310  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [Lottery]&[Giveaway] Free 2$ worth of bitcoins! on: April 22, 2014, 11:45:06 PM
Wait, I just noticed how old the thread is. Was a winner ever drawn? Shocked
311  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which Bitcoin Client do you use and why ? on: April 22, 2014, 11:43:33 PM
Multibit vs. Electrum...which are you guys preferring?  Any major reasons? 

Electrum - primarily for the fact that it can sign transactions offline so I can use it as my cold storage software rather than Armory which means I would have to download the whole blockchain on the broadcasting computer. Multibit AFAIK doesn't offer the option of signing transactions offline.
No you're right it doesn't seem like that works with Multibit.
312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Today News on: April 22, 2014, 11:38:42 PM
Before I share my opinion on this I have to know one thing - is it meant to be a serious show?
Because it's not coming across as one, at least to me.
313  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: what is ROI on: April 22, 2014, 11:35:38 PM
Guys you don't need 10 posts in the same thread explaining the same thing. If you see that someone has already answered ( especially when there are 10 of them ) there's no point posting the same shit again. It's just spam.

Though actually there are two quite different definitions being proposed here:

1. Return ON Investment - the classical definition, and in my view the correct one, in other words, how much will I get back for a given investment (in a defined timescale)

vs

2. Return OF Investment - widely used here to mean will I get back the money I invest, and (by implication) when?
That's a valid point, they're indeed different, mainly you should be able to tell which one someone is referring to by context. However there are still multiple posts saying -exactly- the same as previous ones. :>
314  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with eating meat? on: April 22, 2014, 11:34:31 PM
Okay are you ready then to discuss why it is wrong to eat meat?

You first, tell me reasons why it's good to eat meat.
Why? That's not what this thread is about. We're discussing what's wrong with it, not what's good with it. Smiley
You keep trying to make the thread into something it's not, about veganism, about why people think its good to eat meat and why they're wrong. That's absolutely not the point of this thread, just read the god damn title. If you wanna tell me why eating meat is wrong, go ahead and do so. Smiley
315  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: RitzGrandCasino not provably fair (Has nothing to do with their sig program) on: April 22, 2014, 11:29:31 PM
If this has nothing to do with their signature campaign, RBGKey, how come there's a direct link to the program in the OP? Also, your posts about it on the first and 2nd page? No wonder people seem to get confused, you seem to be as well.

Now to the topic, not that I claim to know anything about such things, but why is their provably fair page not convincing?
https://www.ritzgrandcasino.com/provablyfair.php
316  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: April 22, 2014, 11:24:31 PM
I find it hard to comment on The X- Files because it simply transcends words. It's an intelligent masterpiece, an epos of beautifully complicated scenarios, plots and characters. Eruditely taking on the grayest of areas, confronting those things under your bed and inside your closet thus bringing new meaning to the fears brought on by conventions and the imprudent obstinacy of social norms. The script, the actors and the direction make the most unbelievable seem believable and the unfathomable- unfathomably real. So thought provoking that if you really let yourself dwell in its essence, it can change the way you see the world, if only just by believing in the conviction that The Truth Is Out There.

lol fanboy detected. What episodes do you reccomend? I'll give it a go.
I would assume you'd have to watch "all of them" to become as big a fanboy as that poster above is. Cheesy

All of them several times probably. It's been years since I've seen an episode.
Never even gave the X-Files a chance. I don't like non comedy TV series, basically, haha.
317  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with eating meat? on: April 22, 2014, 11:21:59 PM
I did not say I was against it, clearly you're trying to put words in my mouth. I just simply stated the fact that you resorted to insults after clearly having ran out of arguments. Smiley

No, how can I run out of arguments? I know what it's like to have experienced both sides and continue to expand my knowledge everyday.

I look up information on both sides, but you on the other hand, do not. You made me become emotional in the subject due to your foolish trolling and closed mindedness.

I'm not putting words into your mouth, it's by your choice of words and mockery that give the impression that you do not support it. Due to the fact that you don't bother looking at any sources I give, obviously means you are against it, as the more closed minded an individual is, the more likely they will block out information that goes against their beliefs.
Sigh.

If I didn't read the sources ( which I did ), how would I possibly have known the amounts of people involved in the studies the articles mentioned?
http://www.medpagetoday.com/PrimaryCare/DietNutrition/4721
"The study included 8,170 participants in the 1970 British cohort study."


http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201005/why-vegetarians-are-more-intelligent-meat-eaters
This one is clear pseudoscience, it didn't even supply the reader with real numbers on how many the said "studies" involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6180753.stm
"The study of 8,179 was reported in the British Medical Journal."
318  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with eating meat? on: April 22, 2014, 11:16:50 PM
What's wrong with eating meat?
When you are really hungry you might be tempted to eat the cute little bunny.  Cheesy

Or the corncob. Or cook them both.
319  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: April 22, 2014, 11:15:43 PM
I find it hard to comment on The X- Files because it simply transcends words. It's an intelligent masterpiece, an epos of beautifully complicated scenarios, plots and characters. Eruditely taking on the grayest of areas, confronting those things under your bed and inside your closet thus bringing new meaning to the fears brought on by conventions and the imprudent obstinacy of social norms. The script, the actors and the direction make the most unbelievable seem believable and the unfathomable- unfathomably real. So thought provoking that if you really let yourself dwell in its essence, it can change the way you see the world, if only just by believing in the conviction that The Truth Is Out There.

lol fanboy detected. What episodes do you reccomend? I'll give it a go.
I would assume you'd have to watch "all of them" to become as big a fanboy as that poster above is. Cheesy
320  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with eating meat? on: April 22, 2014, 11:14:49 PM
Plus you have agreed with the list of geniuses that were vegan / vegetarian.

This is not a constructive argument. A list of geniuses who were not vegetarians could be made as well and would actually be longer.
Why did they adopt this lifestyle? That's what's relevant.
"They were smart and vegetarian, I'm a vegetarian and therefore I'm smart". However that's far from the truth.

When did I make that connection? I didn't, you made that assumption about me. I brought up that list because you guys continued to mock the idea of being a vegetarian.

If I brought up a list of credible people who belonged, you would be less inclined to make an insult about the entire system.

Plus, you say you are against personal insults, but you just mocked me again you closed minded buffoon.
I did not say I was against it, clearly you're trying to put words in my mouth. I just simply stated the fact that you resorted to insults after clearly having ran out of arguments. Smiley
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