I wanted to take a few minutes out of my day to chime in regarding HAOBTC support. I was missing a deposit (less than one BTC) last night and Eric replied within six hours and the problem was rectified. Not bad, in my opinion, for such a small amount of coin held in a "foreign" account.
I'm going to move some of my balance to the finance option within the month, as I feel that HAO will continue to see growth and provide quick support.
I'll do the same & say that several weeks ago I had a similar problem. Eric promptly replied & made sure the problem was fixed by the tech support/dev team. Good customer service. It's good to hear they're taking care of issues! I'm mostly just wondering what happens if their mining income drops significantly.. like whether or not all current balances would be repaid. I think I touched on the topic before, but let me elaborate on it more. The plan is that we will lower the interest rate as the mining profit diminishes and eventually depletes, as it almost certainly will. Meanwhile we have been working on new projects with potential of monetization to supplant mining profit. For instance, we launched a spot trading service a couple months ago (only Chinese banks are supported, so don't get excited prematurely ) - a couple weeks ago, I was told that that we have made a couple dozens of BTC in trading commission, and the volume is still growing. Not a lot compared with mining, but at least shows that it is possible not relying on mining entirely to survive. Meanwhile, we are still expanding our mining operations - the profit will deplete but not in short term. As I said before, the company's vision is NOT a mining company - we are more ambitious than that. I have tried not to give ppl such an impression; if you are led to think that we are a mining company, that is prob because the HaoBTC Kangding mine gets lot of publicity; understandably so - a mine is physical and visual and in case of ours, it is located in a very scenic, culturally exotic place that few set foot on, and we do exploit that for marketing purpose - we haven't been splurging money on advertisement and for all the overseas users we get, it is through honest and candid communications, as exemplified by this thread. Aside from mining, we do have a great development team working day and night on great products - please be patient. Many startups fail not because they don't have a great vision, or a great team, but because they couldn't support themselves long enough to convince more people that the vision is legit and that they are devoted to bring it alive - in this sense, mining is just an expedient, something that carries us to the next stop. The great journey just started. Thanks for elaborating more! I haven't heard what the end goal is, though... like what is HaoBTC, in its later years, planning to be doing for income? The trading system is a great idea, but it seems like there's actually a very different vision? The company is built on the vision of promoting the awareness and adoption of BTC - in this sense, we are not purely profit-driven. For instance, we recently hired a guy to do some BTC evangelical work. Much we have done is about creating tools enabling more people to use BTC with greater confidence and comfort. Mining is important because contrary to common belief, the BTC economy, until the last coin is mined, has been and will continue to be inflationary as everyday thousands of BTC is injected into the system and we intend to help our users to hedge against the inflation-related risk. Trading is important in that it helps more people to buy BTC and sell if they need to - our user interface is designed to be simple, unlike the exchanges targeting day traders which can be intimidating for newbies with all those order types. To date, we have kept the record of the fastest cash withdrawal speed. We also did things that are meant to be beneficiary to the community, not immediately to ourselves - for example, our multi-sig enterprise vault, which we knew there was no way to monetize even before we started but we did it anyway, because we think it may mitigate the trust issue faced by many BTC companies. In the future, what we do will continue to be what will make BTC more useful and more popular. It's interesting to say that, as many make the same claim but don't mean it. I'm guessing the company holds a lot of crypto-related assets, though, in that spreading/increasing adoption is a selfish, rather than selfless, task, correct? i.e., "as awareness spreads, our money becomes more valuable, as well!" Ehh, that is prob true. The boundary btw altruism and self-interest can be blurry. Sometimes you help people, thinking you are selfless in motivation, but at a deeper level, you may expect them to reciprocate when called upon Yeah, I'm not against it at all. I help with many projects because the end result will be beneficial all around,  . Just seeing if we were on the same page with reasoning. |
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The site name Playtodos . It's a great, fun place to play with BTC
They have to improve their software more and more, or create a HTML5 client. actually they have a great sign campaign and promotion, but seems that the number of players are not increased significantly. That's because the software sucks and looks like it's from the 1980s. They have a long way to go I think. |
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I wonder then, if such is the case, if over time admin will add more powerful and efficient virtual miners.
I'm going to say probably yes, once there's more money being brought on board. As it is, I don't think the high end ones are being bought at all/often enough. I think he's emulating the real world (over time, it will increase in efficiency/power). |
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I wanted to take a few minutes out of my day to chime in regarding HAOBTC support. I was missing a deposit (less than one BTC) last night and Eric replied within six hours and the problem was rectified. Not bad, in my opinion, for such a small amount of coin held in a "foreign" account.
I'm going to move some of my balance to the finance option within the month, as I feel that HAO will continue to see growth and provide quick support.
I'll do the same & say that several weeks ago I had a similar problem. Eric promptly replied & made sure the problem was fixed by the tech support/dev team. Good customer service. It's good to hear they're taking care of issues! I'm mostly just wondering what happens if their mining income drops significantly.. like whether or not all current balances would be repaid. I think I touched on the topic before, but let me elaborate on it more. The plan is that we will lower the interest rate as the mining profit diminishes and eventually depletes, as it almost certainly will. Meanwhile we have been working on new projects with potential of monetization to supplant mining profit. For instance, we launched a spot trading service a couple months ago (only Chinese banks are supported, so don't get excited prematurely ) - a couple weeks ago, I was told that that we have made a couple dozens of BTC in trading commission, and the volume is still growing. Not a lot compared with mining, but at least shows that it is possible not relying on mining entirely to survive. Meanwhile, we are still expanding our mining operations - the profit will deplete but not in short term. As I said before, the company's vision is NOT a mining company - we are more ambitious than that. I have tried not to give ppl such an impression; if you are led to think that we are a mining company, that is prob because the HaoBTC Kangding mine gets lot of publicity; understandably so - a mine is physical and visual and in case of ours, it is located in a very scenic, culturally exotic place that few set foot on, and we do exploit that for marketing purpose - we haven't been splurging money on advertisement and for all the overseas users we get, it is through honest and candid communications, as exemplified by this thread. Aside from mining, we do have a great development team working day and night on great products - please be patient. Many startups fail not because they don't have a great vision, or a great team, but because they couldn't support themselves long enough to convince more people that the vision is legit and that they are devoted to bring it alive - in this sense, mining is just an expedient, something that carries us to the next stop. The great journey just started. Thanks for elaborating more! I haven't heard what the end goal is, though... like what is HaoBTC, in its later years, planning to be doing for income? The trading system is a great idea, but it seems like there's actually a very different vision? The company is built on the vision of promoting the awareness and adoption of BTC - in this sense, we are not purely profit-driven. For instance, we recently hired a guy to do some BTC evangelical work. Much we have done is about creating tools enabling more people to use BTC with greater confidence and comfort. Mining is important because contrary to common belief, the BTC economy, until the last coin is mined, has been and will continue to be inflationary as everyday thousands of BTC is injected into the system and we intend to help our users to hedge against the inflation-related risk. Trading is important in that it helps more people to buy BTC and sell if they need to - our user interface is designed to be simple, unlike the exchanges targeting day traders which can be intimidating for newbies with all those order types. To date, we have kept the record of the fastest cash withdrawal speed. We also did things that are meant to be beneficiary to the community, not immediately to ourselves - for example, our multi-sig enterprise vault, which we knew there was no way to monetize even before we started but we did it anyway, because we think it may mitigate the trust issue faced by many BTC companies. In the future, what we do will continue to be what will make BTC more useful and more popular. It's interesting to say that, as many make the same claim but don't mean it. I'm guessing the company holds a lot of crypto-related assets, though, in that spreading/increasing adoption is a selfish, rather than selfless, task, correct? i.e., "as awareness spreads, our money becomes more valuable, as well!" |
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Currently BURST is my recommendation. Invest in BURST and it's assets, just today 3 of the BURST assets paid it's dividends (end of month), including mine.
Some assets generated up to 0.13BTC in value. You just buy the BURST , then the assets, then you get dividends on them.
After you decide to cash out, you just convert back it into Bitcoin, and make profit.
Any idea where I could find those Burst assets? Sorry for my ignorance, but I haven’t seen any as to this date. Please let me know as I would like to invest in them too. You buy them from the BURST client, there is a built in asset exchange from where you can buy the assets. I`ve just made a list of the established BUST assets, my asset is the fastest growing one with the 2nd highest monthly trading volume: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg12577687#msg12577687I'm lost as to where the money comes from, though. How is this profitable? |
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this does not need a rollover because chips in poker sites cant be implemented with rollover and yes it can but the minimum withdrawal is 20 mBTC and it is not like a promotions that can be abuse easily though.
In other words you will not be able to withdraw it directly unless you multiply your chips by playing at the tournaments or the ring games,,
Only ring games. It is only ring games for right now. We're working on something special for the tourneys. Another type of cash back system? . I'm intrigued. YES! REAL TOO!  Nice you're just full of surprises lucky. I will check back here and keep and eye on this newest update. Been busy again this week but will be making time to get online over the weekend and hopefully we can get a few players to play some ring games. Have you ever tried a promotion for guys who play ring games only? I mean just small ones maybe 5-9 players and make it appealing so people play more ring games to qualify for it? Don't know what else to do??? We are adding what we can to bring more players. At the end of the day people need to like to play on the site and feel that it is a better deal here. What are better deals? I think we have the better deals here. I think you're on the right path. Other BTC poker sites are having issues, as well. Though I will say Betcoin is awesome with both freerolls AND guaranteed daily rewards just for logging in. That said, they're also a lot more than just poker. I think you are on the right track with everything so far though, . Just gotta find that one thing that hits and everyone's like "YES!" |
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That means, I can come tomorrow and open up a 0% fee pool, sell my miner and disappear?
I guess the other pool owners do not share your view!
I didn't get your point, could you be more specific please? Because anyone can create 0% fee pool anytime they want, you don't need to quit the game for that. And there is no restrictions about this. However, if someone creates a 0% fee pool, than there might be too many people joining this pool. If there are too many members, than the prize will be shared between too many players. Which means the earnings per player will be less. So most probably, clever players will go for higher earnings instead of 0% fee, crowded pools. If pool owner quits the game, this harms only the pool owner. Nothing changes for pool members in terms of their earnings and their costs. There is a cost of creating pool, if the pool owner quits then he would lost this paid cost + fee earnings + mining earnings. So the only person who is punished is the pool owner that quits. Everything remains the same for the pool members. It is a lot like RL, then, based on what I'm reading (i.e., when a pool hits 50%+, people start dispersing into other pools). The same should theoretically be happening in the game, I'd think. |
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I wanted to take a few minutes out of my day to chime in regarding HAOBTC support. I was missing a deposit (less than one BTC) last night and Eric replied within six hours and the problem was rectified. Not bad, in my opinion, for such a small amount of coin held in a "foreign" account.
I'm going to move some of my balance to the finance option within the month, as I feel that HAO will continue to see growth and provide quick support.
I'll do the same & say that several weeks ago I had a similar problem. Eric promptly replied & made sure the problem was fixed by the tech support/dev team. Good customer service. It's good to hear they're taking care of issues! I'm mostly just wondering what happens if their mining income drops significantly.. like whether or not all current balances would be repaid. I think I touched on the topic before, but let me elaborate on it more. The plan is that we will lower the interest rate as the mining profit diminishes and eventually depletes, as it almost certainly will. Meanwhile we have been working on new projects with potential of monetization to supplant mining profit. For instance, we launched a spot trading service a couple months ago (only Chinese banks are supported, so don't get excited prematurely ) - a couple weeks ago, I was told that that we have made a couple dozens of BTC in trading commission, and the volume is still growing. Not a lot compared with mining, but at least shows that it is possible not relying on mining entirely to survive. Meanwhile, we are still expanding our mining operations - the profit will deplete but not in short term. As I said before, the company's vision is NOT a mining company - we are more ambitious than that. I have tried not to give ppl such an impression; if you are led to think that we are a mining company, that is prob because the HaoBTC Kangding mine gets lot of publicity; understandably so - a mine is physical and visual and in case of ours, it is located in a very scenic, culturally exotic place that few set foot on, and we do exploit that for marketing purpose - we haven't been splurging money on advertisement and for all the overseas users we get, it is through honest and candid communications, as exemplified by this thread. Aside from mining, we do have a great development team working day and night on great products - please be patient. Many startups fail not because they don't have a great vision, or a great team, but because they couldn't support themselves long enough to convince more people that the vision is legit and that they are devoted to bring it alive - in this sense, mining is just an expedient, something that carries us to the next stop. The great journey just started. Thanks for elaborating more! I haven't heard what the end goal is, though... like what is HaoBTC, in its later years, planning to be doing for income? The trading system is a great idea, but it seems like there's actually a very different vision? |
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"Paid to the system"
What exactly does that mean?
It's essentially deleted (i.e., nobody gets it -- so technically the site owner does). |
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Is there some way to earn Bitcoins quickly?
Mining seems to be too far ahead of me, and faucets give out very little.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
You have to keep in mind BTC is money. So as far as getting bitcoins quickly, there is no get rich quick route. Most you invest and slowly come in. What you can do to earn is sell goods/services. The more things you sell the quicker you get BTC. This way it's all up to you as far as how fast you earn if you price things reasonable. Also the truly quickest way is buy BTC. If you need to get it the quickest work or do something in your time, use that income to purchase BTC. This is the quickest way for most. Its better and its worse. Bitcoin is money,but there are not all methods of earning bitcoin, that you would normall earn fiat. However bitcoin also opens up new possibility to earn money, sig campaign + trading + mico earnings that are easier to do than with fiat. Your post makes no sense. Name ONE way you can earn fiat that you can't do Bitcoin in the same way. You can't do 99% of the jobs that you do in fiat in bitcoin. It is not because it is impossible, but because it is impractical, costly, or require too much hassle. I can't for example do (at the moment) painting rooftops for bitcoin. Anyone can pay in Bitcoin, and there are painters that accept it. Just because YOU don't doesn't mean others don't. Even places like Microsoft and the New York Times offer their employees the ability to be paid in BTC. |
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"Lets say there is 5 consistent ring game players who play threw x amount of raked hands" at the end of each week "just those players who completed the rake requirement will qualify for a generous freeroll" (which once people start seeing will want to get involved, 'hence start playing ring games.
I am quite aware that there are freeroll for points (that is not for just ring game players as said), I also receive some cashback for ring games (clearly not talking about that).
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I don't get your idea at all. By 'rake requirements' you mean number of raked hands played? From site operator's perspective the amount of rake matters, not number of hands. Why do you want to reward/prioritise players who play more hands but pay less rake? That would be a strange business model. Loyalty points system is simple and works well. All it really takes is to drive more players to the site, who aren't ring-game-shy. Well have to assume you have not played much poker and unlocked bonus money in the process or qualified for cash game freerolls. Raked hand.. is a hand played in a cash game that is actually played and the pot hits a set amount whatever the admin chooses in this case. You sit down for a cash game and don't play a hand then you don't play a raked hand. (google is your friend is you don't understand) Let me bold that was very easy to understand even for poker laymans--- I see how it could be a strange business model when top sites need it as a requirement a lot of the time. If this was implemented then once players from other sites hear about it they would come and play at lucky flop to fulfil the requirement hence increasing player base, hence increasing more players because there is players to play against. Honest question - do you have any clue about the current LP system and how it works? You're basically proposing poorer, more limited and weirder version of what's already on the site. I'm hoping he's just bad at explaining his idea. If not, he doesn't know how businesses work. If a business isn't getting income, it can't pay people -- simple concept. |
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So does this mean that if you start a pool, there is no way to delete the pool and that your account is forever charged .05 BTC perpetually for having launched a pool in the first place?
Looks like it. I don't like that rule... because some people may make one, and decide later to join a bigger one instead. I think you should be able to cancel it, even if that comes with a fee. |
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We're back! Did you miss us while we were gone??? The site still ran, but we didn't market and our bot (Bob9) made smaller bets. Traffic seems way down  . Have some coupons: 30a6ca9e-0017 5345463e-0017 957490ec-0017 22be71bd-0017 Please share with friends. I spent a while trying to figure out where to add coupon codes... couldn't find it? I even did ctrl+f on each page... Go on block777.com, click on the brown hair colored boy/girl ?, enter your address and the coupon code and choose the mining pool you think will mine that block, click place my bet!. That's it. Ahh, thanks for that. Does this mean both of the sites are treated as one entity, or are they run separately? |
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Except that if I want to save a considerable amount of money, but in bitcoins.
Then print a paper wallet, put it into a safe place and move your bitcoins there. if I create a paper wallet and move my bitcoin there then how can I send bitcoin to someone if I need to? what do I do to use it? Paper wallet is safe but is not as user friendly as offline computer. Mycelium has a feature which allows you to spend money from your paper wallet by scanning a Qr code. However, it would not exactly qualify as safe if you were to use your phone which you use daily as it would be exposed to the internet. Buying an android phone isn't viable as purchasing a raspberry pi and install electrum on it. The more I hear ideas, the more I get pushed to the idea that hardware wallets are the way to go (like Trezor). Even the pi can be exploited. |
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Personally I believe that fiat won't be the number one currency in 20 years. I think that rare commodities will be the #1 thing that will be valued as I believe the world (or atleast I hope) will go back to the gold standard and dump fiat all together. But the likely hood of that happening is almost close to none, because of the fact that rich guys in suits (i.e. Rothschilds) will prevent it at any cost to keep centralized banks #1.
Commodities are too difficult to use, though. You want to take silver to McDonald's. "That's be $7.32." "Okay... sec, let me shave off 0.03 ounces of this for you." "Okay, let me weigh this to make sure it's right." |
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"Lets say there is 5 consistent ring game players who play threw x amount of raked hands" at the end of each week "just those players who completed the rake requirement will qualify for a generous freeroll" (which once people start seeing will want to get involved, 'hence start playing ring games.
I am quite aware that there are freeroll for points (that is not for just ring game players as said), I also receive some cashback for ring games (clearly not talking about that).
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I don't get your idea at all. By 'rake requirements' you mean number of raked hands played? From site operator's perspective the amount of rake matters, not number of hands. Why do you want to reward/prioritise players who play more hands but pay less rake? That would be a strange business model. Loyalty points system is simple and works well. All it really takes is to drive more players to the site, who aren't ring-game-shy. Well have to assume you have not played much poker and unlocked bonus money in the process or qualified for cash game freerolls. Raked hand.. is a hand played in a cash game that is actually played and the pot hits a set amount whatever the admin chooses in this case. You sit down for a cash game and don't play a hand then you don't play a raked hand. (google is your friend is you don't understand) Let me bold that was very easy to understand even for poker laymans--- I see how it could be a strange business model when top sites need it as a requirement a lot of the time. If this was implemented then once players from other sites hear about it they would come and play at lucky flop to fulfil the requirement hence increasing player base, hence increasing more players because there is players to play against. I've never. NEVER seen a site that pays out bonuses based on raked hands and not rake amount. No major site does it this way. |
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To tl;dr this, uniques are counted across the entire network, not just your sites. If someone visits Coindesk first that day and they have a-ads, that's who gets the unique, even if they view 10000 pages on your site after. |
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Able to log in with Wine?
Wine may run Windows apps under Linux, Mac OSX, & BSD
I had run the old client under WINE. Haven't had *nix on this system since the new relaunch but I figure it should still work. |
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I really love this game and the community around it. I havent tried the forum yet but why do you have to give the correct information. Just use a fake name and address and write it down for later use.
I'm not sure what forum you mean? Some people won some physical prizes, and in order to claim it they need to provide an address to ship it to. Of course, it's completely optional and you're free to ship it to any friend or family you like (but please don't give fake details, it's just wasteful and creates more work for everyone) We need to see the problem on many perspective, not just from single perspective (example: just from player preview). If you ever created the game or websites, surely you'll need "the correct information" from your customers or users. What is the purpose of claiming the silver wallet if you are going to give a fake address to ship it to? lol I just want to volunteer... If anyone wins the silver coin and doesn't want to give their real information, tell Ryan you're passing the prize to me and I'll do it, :p. |
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Is there some way to earn Bitcoins quickly?
Mining seems to be too far ahead of me, and faucets give out very little.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
You have to keep in mind BTC is money. So as far as getting bitcoins quickly, there is no get rich quick route. Most you invest and slowly come in. What you can do to earn is sell goods/services. The more things you sell the quicker you get BTC. This way it's all up to you as far as how fast you earn if you price things reasonable. Also the truly quickest way is buy BTC. If you need to get it the quickest work or do something in your time, use that income to purchase BTC. This is the quickest way for most. Its better and its worse. Bitcoin is money,but there are not all methods of earning bitcoin, that you would normall earn fiat. However bitcoin also opens up new possibility to earn money, sig campaign + trading + mico earnings that are easier to do than with fiat. Your post makes no sense. Name ONE way you can earn fiat that you can't do Bitcoin in the same way. |
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