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3021  Economy / Speculation / Re: Effect of Tesla bitcoin sale not significant on: July 24, 2022, 08:44:03 AM
Those people who invest in bitcoin for profit aren't lying about it, in fact they call bitcoin an asset not a currency.
Yeah, the thing is that people rarely say that, and instead keep going on that they are into bitcoin for the technology and same thing can be seen here. In reality, majority of Elon haters wouldn't mind if he started shilling bitcoin all over again if it means bitcoin price going up.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like Musk but I don't hate him either because I never fooled myself that he is in bitcoin for anything else other than making more fiat, same as majority of others. And they would probably do the same thing if they have that kind of influence. This is just the beginning though as in the next bull run I expect more big names doing the similar thing. Its inevitable.
3022  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Appeal For naim027. on: July 24, 2022, 07:21:37 AM
It should be two cases but I am keen on the first case.
Ah yes thank you, that 2nd case I heard about was @hacker1001101001, just couldn't remember his name as I don't see him around anymore.


There was a history of being unbanned after two years.
Its true that RegulusHr got unbanned after 2 years, but in that period he wrote only 6 posts and I don't think that he went around PM people asking for support. The more active you are, the more desperate you will appear.


I think he should accept the ban and simply move on...
If he is here only for the money, "moving on" would mean creating the new account and starting from the scratch which I think many of those permanently banned do, and that's one of the reason why I would like to see signature ban being used more. It of course doesn't mean that people would stop making alt accounts after getting banned, but I do think that some would rather continue being active on the main account.
3023  Other / Meta / Re: Need Help From Expert or Mods on: July 23, 2022, 03:48:37 PM
Publicly announcing the change of email address (before the change itself) might be a good idea so that you can always refer to that post if someone ever asks you about it (for instance, changing email is sometimes associated with account sale or even hacking).
I don't see how can this make it any better as the new owner might as well come here and create the similar thread and then change the email. I mean, if we are being so paranoid.


I had the same problem before and I was also worried that changing the email would make people suspect that the account had changed hands.
I don't think that changing the email address will automatically make people think that account changes hands (at least it shouldn't) but if there are more changes beside that like a drastic change in posting habits/posting quality, that will certainly make people suspicious. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry much about it.
3024  Economy / Speculation / Re: Effect of Tesla bitcoin sale not significant on: July 23, 2022, 03:40:39 PM
Don't forget that he is a businessman, and he is also the richest man in the world. If he were stupid enough to sell his fortune at a loss, he wouldn't be the richest man on the planet.
Just because he is rich and successful doesn't mean that he can't make mistakes that will cost him money. Take for example those 3AC and Celsius people; those are smart (and rich) people that were blinded by greed and made stupid mistakes. All I am saying is that its wrong to judge this move (and gloat) based on the price when this news leaked because both of these things happened earlier.



3025  Economy / Speculation / Re: Effect of Tesla bitcoin sale not significant on: July 23, 2022, 10:07:33 AM
There were many saying on twitter that Tesla has bought high and sold low... they've convinced me and I didn't go to check the numbers.
So they were not at loss after all?
Yeah I know that "haha stupid paper hand Elon lost money on Bitcoin" is the narrative on social media, but when you check the prices around the time he bought and sold (which are different from the time that info was released) you see that him selling with loss is unlikely. Or even if he had some loss, it probably wasn't big.
3026  Economy / Speculation / Re: Effect of Tesla bitcoin sale not significant on: July 23, 2022, 09:51:52 AM
I would disagree with that, because after all, he is a man who has far more influence than any ordinary person who sells or buys Bitcoin - and if you look at what the media is doing with this news and how much discussion is going on in this forum, it is also more than enough proof that people care what he says and what he does.
I meant in his view of bitcoin as a way to increase amount of fiat as majority of ordinary bitcoin holders use bitcoin primarily for that, they are not interested in bitcoin "philosophy" and that's why in my eyes he is not worse than anyone else just wanting to profit from bitcoin. It's just that he is doing it on a much larger scale and that's about it.


Accordingly, I hope that people have understood that he is only a part of the majority that you mention, and that he is not interested in Bitcoin for some other reasons.
Judging by the comments here, I am not so sure that people understand what's his goal in crypto and I think that many are taking him way too seriously.

3027  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Appeal For naim027. on: July 22, 2022, 03:41:41 PM
That was what I was thinking, the moderators are not under any obligation to provide explanations when either temporarily or permanently banning a member. I think I have only seen one instance (not the one you referred to in the Croatian board) where a moderator might have made a comment but they do not give a running commentary.
That's one of the rare things I don't like about this forum, that mods don't answer on such threads. I do understand that no answer is also an answer, but it would make people speculate way less so instead members talking for years (like in RegulusHR case), they could just give a simple answer and end the conversations. Its not like there are many ban appeal cases anyway.


IIRC signature ban is somehow common when admin/moderator decide to remove permanent ban, although i no longer remember which member who got such treatment.
I only know about one case of signature ban and that's lovesmayfamilis (who I remember was quite active on forum despite the signature ban) but I think I saw at least one more but can't remember the name now. I think that measure is seriously underused here, while it should be the obvious choice for the first time offenders.
3028  Economy / Speculation / Re: Effect of Tesla bitcoin sale not significant on: July 22, 2022, 03:14:21 PM
PS. It was a big surprise for me that Tesla did buy high and sell low. I've been expecting them be smarter.
Why do you think that they made a loss on those 75% BTC that they sold? Afaik they bought Bitcoin before December 2021 when price was around 20k, and they didn't sell yesterday when this news broke but sometime before that so there is a high chance that in the end they profited from this trade.


Totally addicted to green, in every possible sense and form, and maybe we would have more luck if by any chance the Bitcoin logo was green, when it doesn't help that more than 50% of the energy used for Bitcoin mining comes from renewable sources...
In that regard I don't think that he is any worse than a huge majority of bitcoin hodlers who only see it as a way to increase their fiat amount and bitcoin proved to be a very good for that.
3029  Economy / Reputation / Re: Dead member account suddenly active? on: July 22, 2022, 02:38:24 PM
I'm not sure why would my familiar have to go thru all the shit of becoming legendary, when the change of hands was legit. Cannot but love this forums logic where as long as you don't say you got the account you fine, but as long as you honest you at the very least red tagged.
Why would your family members need Legendary account in the first place? Again we are coming back to the reasons I mentioned and that is to either scam someone or to leech off the forum via signature campaigns. Its funny to see that some people see bitcointalk account like some sort of family heirloom lol.


Also a funny note, there's a lot of bullshit on the forum. It's really easy to silence newbies.
Legit newbies don't have issues on the forum just because of their rank. And yeah, reputation is something that has to be earned.
3030  Other / Meta / Re: Race to 10K Merit club..... on: July 22, 2022, 02:33:29 PM
But wouldn't it be nice if there were actually ranks like that to aspire to?
I personally wouldn't like to see new ranks introduced as I am perfectly content with my current rank and don't need this feeling of having to farm something endlessly in order to have fun on the forum. Imho, people take this forum way too seriously and new higher ranks would only make things worse in that regard.
3031  Economy / Reputation / Re: Dead member account suddenly active? on: July 22, 2022, 02:22:18 PM
If I die and I want a family member to use the account next AND we make public the change of hands, i don't see why there should be any red tag...
How do you plan to make it public if you are already dead, and why would anyone trust your (or anyone else's for that matter) family member? So yeah, no surprise that in that case people would tag the account.

After all, what would be the reason to use someone else's account other than scam someone, or try to leech of the forum via signature campaigns?
3032  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: July 20, 2022, 12:10:34 PM
Kripto prica se i dalje siri kod nas, Electrocoin je dobio novog klijenta pa ce tako od sada biti moguce platiti kriptom na vise od 250 iNovine prodjanih mjesta. Svaka cast Skoricu, samo tako dalje! I eto, nije da Imbex prenosi samo FUD kad je kripto u pitanju  Grin

INOVINE, tvrtka u sastavu BAT-a, uvodi novu uslugu plaćanja kriptovalutama, čime postaje prvi lanac kioska u Hrvatskoj koji nudi mogućnost plaćanja u kriptovalutama na fizičkim prodajnim mjestima, izvijestili su danas iz te tvrtke. Projekt se realizirao u suradnji s tvrtkom Electrocoin pa je tako odsad moguće brzo i sigurno plaćanje kriptovalutama putem platforme PayCek na svim prodajnim mjestima, njih više od 250 diljem Hrvatske.

Plaćanje kriptovalutama realizira se putem Electrocoinove platforme PayCek, a moguće je platiti s 14 kriptovaluta - bitcoin, ether, bitcoin cash, USDT, USDC, XRP, solana, litecoin, dai, stellar, dogecoin, eos, BUSD i near.

"Ako osoba, primjerice, kupi proizvode u vrijednosti 100 kuna i želi platiti u kriptovalutama, u trenutku kada mi preko PayCeka javimo iNovinama da je uplata obrađena, iNovine dobivaju svojih 100 kuna, dok mi u Electrocoinu u potpunosti obrađujemo kriptovalutnu transakciju. Platforma PayCek za prihvaćanje plaćanja kriptovalutama jamči sigurnost svakoj tvrtki koja želi omogućiti svojim klijentima tu mogućnost", pojasnio je direktor Electrocoina Nikola Škorić.
3033  Other / Meta / Re: Ninjastic.space - BitcoinTalk Post/Address archive + API on: July 17, 2022, 08:48:54 PM
Like @indah rezqi said above, it's an arbitrary number to keep everything running fine. But since there hasn't been any abuse, I'm uncapping it (at least for now). Let me know if it works. Cheesy
Thanks for uncapping it!

I did some testing on Bitcoin Discussion board (date range set for the whole 2018) and  it works as long as I set the cap at 32,000 users. Everything above that (or not setting it at all) gives me an error after some time of processing it but don't know if cause of error is on my side.


I started testing it for the first time, now it's over 10K. From these results, there are 10997 users who actively post on bitcoin discussion boards including child boards during 2020. I think the tool is better now, is there still a limit to the number?
I just did a little bit of comparison regarding active users in the first 7 months (up until July 17th) of 2018 and in the same period during this year and difference is huge: 29815 users active in Bitcoin Discussion board (including child boards) during that period compared to only 3204 in 2022. I did similar comparison for my local board some time ago and results were pretty much similar, decline was around 90% as well.

3034  Other / Meta / Re: Ninjastic.space - BitcoinTalk Post/Address archive + API on: July 17, 2022, 03:21:41 PM
Hey @TryNinja, I wanted to check the amount of users on some boards years ago and compare it with the current situation but your tool (afaik) counts only up to 10,000 users. Is there some way to increase that cap, or its limited due some technical reason?
3035  Other / Meta / Re: Merit source observations on: July 17, 2022, 03:01:38 PM
It is not fair for people years ago have to struggle to rank up and nowadays simply posting some merit-fishing initiatives and receive a lot of merit. I don't call them as shit posters, their post quality is good enough but let's keep their rank-up as natural as it should be. Don't distort your rules of meriting only because you feel you must keep your source-merit bag as emptiest as possible.
Isn't it better that people nowadays can rank up easier than years ago? From my understanding, point of merit system is to prevent shitposters and spammer from ranking up and not to make it a struggle for decent members to rank up like it was at the beginning (at least that's what you said).

3036  Economy / Economics / Re: Russia's economy is 'imploding' on export decline, economists claim on: July 17, 2022, 07:34:23 AM
What you are wrong about is the assumption that Russia knew that there would be such sanctions! Russia's plans for Ukraine were simply fabulous - to take all of Ukraine in 4-6 weeks
I didn't say that they 100% knew that will be the reaction, but that they ran that scenario for sure and were aware that might be one of the possibilities. I agree with the 2nd part of the post though, they underestimated Ukraine (not just them, I remember western analytics saying  Kiev will fall in a few days as well) and expected to finish much faster and probably install puppet government that will do as told.

Those who think sanctions make sense and will work might take a look at North Korea and Cuba, with the big difference that this time we will get screwed in the process as well.
3037  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning] Scammy crypto recovery service on: July 17, 2022, 07:18:27 AM
How is it even possible to recover lost Bitcoins from scammers when we all know that Bitcoin (and cryptocurrencies in general) transactions are irreversible
Their target audience are not those who know how bitcoin works. After all, its newbies who think if Bitcoin as some kind of magic money are exactly those who get scammed by ponzies, not an experienced users.


Those three people look like what far left-leaning Hollywood would cast in a movie that only had three actors.  Got a professorial-looking older white male, a black male who looks like he jumped out of an Abercromie & Fitch catalog, and a young white female who, quite frankly, looks horny.
Lol, nailed it!  Cheesy
3038  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Duelbits Casino does not want to confirm my KYC - withdrawal not paid on: July 17, 2022, 06:40:57 AM
I would like your help and advice, what to do in this case. Is there anyone here who can help me?
You should try asking about you case in their official thread ( Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | Earn up to 50% rakeback | VIP |)as it might bring some extra attention to your case. Their account hasn't been online for 2 weeks now so it might take some time to get any reaction from them.

By the way, there is another relatively similar case going on at the moment and it seems like their verification can last for quite some time https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405780.0

3039  Economy / Reputation / Re: About Local Board Indonesia users on: July 16, 2022, 12:52:37 PM
@_BlackStar I am not sure what's the point of this topic. Is it to paint the whole Indonesian board as bunch of spammers and cheaters so we (or admins?) should do something about it? Fyi, Indonesian local board is one of the most active ones, so no surprise that they have a lot of account farmers and bounty abusers. And as @Jawhead999 pointed out, Indonesia is country with lower life standard meaning people will have more incentive to abuse rules and leech off the forum. It's not a valid excuse of course, but it is what it is. Still, ain't a reason to call out the whole board.


3040  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Rumor: Coinbase is ‘temporarily closing’ its US affiliat e-marketing program on: July 16, 2022, 07:22:51 AM
I don't see this as particularly bad news as many influencers won't have a reason to shill Coinbase to their followers anymore. And another good reason to remove your money from Coinbase as they might have liquidity issues.
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