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3141  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: How does the IRS look at anonymous bitcoin? on: July 08, 2022, 07:07:51 AM
That's crazy they wont take "I bought bitcoin back when it was around 20k and held onto it for years" approach! What are the probably many other people who still have bitcoin from 2013 and so on when it was only a few thousand but they bought from one of the plentiful non KYC exchanges?

So is it if you just show up with 1 mil out of no where? Or is it so long as they can see that the bitcoin has sat in a wallet for a long time but is just not connected to a paper trail, would that matter?

Either way, something tells me the totalitarian states of America is not the place to be when you want to cash out.

If you got your Bitcoins in 2013 and they are in the same adress today, you are in a good position, or you moved them but the transactions are clear and you can sign messages from the addresses. The only thing is that if you can't prove the purchase price, you will most likely be charged a 0 purchase cost, which won't make much difference with the real purchase price, since almost everything is profit.

If you moved the Bitcoins by mixers for "privacy" I think you have it more complicated as the IRS does not like privacy.

3142  Economy / Economics / Re: Sensational Push For Cryptocurrencies As US Fed on: July 08, 2022, 07:00:09 AM
Nah, I don't see the fed loosening up anytime time soon, plus they nixed Grayscale's spot bitcoin ETF quite ambiguously.  I believe the fed is trying to set things up to contain or possibly hamstring bitcoin in the very near future and then push their own digital fiat.

The only doubt I have is whether they will do so at the end of the summer, in view of the mid-term elections. I am not saying that they will change radically and lower rates in a drastic way, but perhaps slightly, because the return of summer is expected to be tough and I do not think that the Democrats want to face the elections with a more catastrophic economic situation than the one we have today.
3143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Careful With Your Slot Activity! on: July 08, 2022, 06:50:49 AM
Slots are the worst idea to spend so much money on, much less manage to take on debt. I don't understand how some people manage to go to such extremes and ruin their lives and those of their families. I'd rather drink the money away with attractive women in a restaurant and have a good time.

I have the same opinion, but I prefer not to drink too much, just a couple of glasses or three at the most while eating, so that I can perform optimally after the meal with the attractive woman.

 Wink

But you have to think that people like the case the OP describes are people who have self-control problems, and basically what they do with those behaviors is self-destruct. It's hard to understand these behaviors if you've never had them or don't know someone who has had them.
3144  Other / Archival / Re: What do you expect from bitcoin in the second half of 2022? on: July 08, 2022, 06:41:12 AM
Personally, I do not expect a new ATH in the second half of the year, but there is still a chance to return to 40-50k this year. I also expect a red annual candle, since according to the theory of cyclicality, 2022 is a year of decline, after a year of growth and a new ATH, that is, the price will close on December 31 below $45,600.

I am of the same opinion. I think this cycle, as far as good things go, is over and we won't break $69k again until the next one. And while I don't rule out that we may test new lows, I think it's unlikely. In the second half of the year I don't rule out what you say, that we will go up to $50k and stay in a $30-$50k range, but it will depend on many things, the evolution of the war, energy policies, if the Fed decides to give some liquidity again before the mid-term elections. If the general situation improves I think we will be in the upper part of the range, if everything goes worse I think we will move most of the time in levels below $30k and maybe testing new lows.

3145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: why is bitcoin price important? on: July 08, 2022, 06:33:44 AM
alot of posts seem to be focused on the price of bitcoin. i understand why because they are wanting to sell it for a profit but is that the purpose of bitcoin or was there some other purpose for it? i thought it was originally designed to just be a way to transfer digital cash in a decentralized manner but it seems like people don't really care about that part of it and all they care about is what its price is. seems they got the wrong idea of bitcoin.

One thing is the original idea and another is how that idea evolves when it becomes a reality. Today we see many things that deviate from Satoshi's original idea, and not only in terms of the price that you mention.

Regarding the price, I guess what bothers you is that the comparison is made with the dollar, but it could be done in another way. Those of us who hold Bitcoin care about the purchasing power it has. When the Bitcoin was worth $1, you could buy a car with 1 Bitcoin? No. Today you can? Yes (as long as it's priced at $20k or less and the dealer accepts Bitcoin or you'll have to switch to fiat to exchange).

So, I say 1BTC=1BTC always put it in historical perspective, because 1BTC with which you bought just some chewing gum, is not the same as 1BTC with which you buy a car.


3146  Economy / Reputation / Re: A violation of agreement by Bitsler, on: July 08, 2022, 06:28:35 AM
Now all that's left is too withdraw your flag.

Yes, I believe it is the best the OP can do in light of the facts. The only one who supports it is him and the rest of us have opposed it. The most logical thing to do would be to recognize that he has made a mistake, something that happens to all of us from time to time, instead of insisting on the mistake.
3147  Economy / Speculation / Re: This interesting Bitcoin chart is not dissapointing. on: July 08, 2022, 06:03:40 AM
I would love to see some of your's theories / Data Models predicting something, Mr. Poker Player.

My theory is that the supposedly "predictive" models serve more to understand the past than to predict the future.

What usually happens is the following: the past is observed, in this case of Bitcoin, some regularities are observed (which to some extent are arbitrary), and from there a model is assembled assuming that the future will be similar.

I prefer to rely on events that happen in the real world rather than on charts drawn on the basis of a continuation of patterns. Like the miners' ban in China last year, which was not foreseen in any technical analysis or predictive model, also the reduction of liquidity by central banks, or the cascading liquidation of leveraged positions as we have seen recently. All this is much more important than standing in front of a blackboard and drawing future lines based on the supposed regularities you observe in the past.

In the case of PlanB, he put together a very elaborate and logical model based on supply, and I understand that he does not want to give it up for lost after so much time and effort invested in it, but I think he would do better moving on and stop making a fool of himself.

3148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the future of bitcoin? Commodity, currency or smth else? on: July 08, 2022, 05:47:13 AM
What the future of bitcoin will look like is still a question. but now it shows bitcoin is being used by people as a store of wealth, people are trying to collect and hold bitcoin hoping the bitcoin value will increase as much as possible to make a profit for them.

As of today, we can still use bitcoin as a form of payment, but most people tend not to do this since they think that it is very wasteful since the value of bitcoin has increased over time.
According to me, bitcoin is better suited to acting as a commodity or asset than as a currency.

I share your opinion, it is something like digital gold, which in the past was used as a currency and as a store of wealth. The number of daily transactions shows that it is partially used as a currency, but as bitcoin is so good at storing value it makes much more sense to spend the fiat you have and save your bitcoin, because in 1 or 2 cycles it will be worth much more.
3149  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM EXCHANGE MONITOR: BestChange on: July 07, 2022, 08:52:33 AM
OK, I'm done with this conversation. Best_Change arguments, although debatable, are sufficient for me. To say it is a scam exchange monitor is false based on what has been discussed in the thread.
3150  Other / Politics & Society / Re: united kingdom pm will resign today. 2022/07/07 on: July 07, 2022, 08:23:17 AM
I don't know whether to give much credibility to a tweet but seeing that this is a news agency from the Netherlands it seems more reliable.

I've googled and I don't see anyone else echoing it.

However, if it happens it will be indeed breaking news.

Waiting for people who know the UK situation better to comment on it, like Cnut237.
3151  Economy / Speculation / Re: This interesting Bitcoin chart is not dissapointing. on: July 07, 2022, 07:49:27 AM
A little theory of mine

Every model breaks, when too many people anticipate on the models results Smiley

I would rather say that when the creator of a predictive model does not stop changing the predictions when the facts dismantle his theory, what he is doing is making a fool of himself.

PlanB had earlier stated in June around the mining and Musk’s energy FUD that the worst-case scenario for 2021 would see Bitcoin above $135k by the end of December

Plan B Says Bitcoin Price Still 'on Track Towards $100K' Despite Missing November's Price Prediction

PlanB Explains Why Bitcoin Won’t Drop to $24.5K Again

This last one is dated April 15 of this year.
3152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Now is the time to just wait for the price of Bitcoin to come down. on: July 07, 2022, 07:16:53 AM
More than waiting for the price to go down further or not, what is clear is that it is a good time to buy. The price could go lower, yes, but I highly doubt it will go much lower and stay at levels below $20k, barring catastrophic news. I think the price behavior lately shows that the level around $20k is strong support.
3153  Economy / Speculation / Re: This interesting Bitcoin chart is not dissapointing. on: July 07, 2022, 06:59:28 AM
Seriously, it's 2022, and the "model" has obviously been invalidated for a while now. Just let it die out and lose publicity and let's just move on already.

I agree 100%. When you have a theory that predicts some data, and subsequently the data does not match what the theory predicted, there are two fundamental attitudes:

1) Invalidate the theory.
2) Find excuses not to invalidate the theory.

It is clear to me that 1) is the correct option.
3154  Economy / Reputation / Re: Some mo-fo is tryin' to hack my ass. on: July 07, 2022, 06:08:00 AM
I don't know if it has anything to do with it but take a look at this thread:

weird pm received

In this case he talks about PM in the forum. It may have nothing to do with it or if it has something to do it will be some amateurs trying to hack forum members accounts in DT with great reputation.
3155  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM EXCHANGE MONITOR: BestChange on: July 07, 2022, 05:51:02 AM
Best Change has changed the title in his reply and it appears in yours as you have quoted him.

Do you worry about that? Smiley

Not at all. The only thing that had caught my attention was that Jollygood's reply was titled "Best Change is not a scam", but then I understood that it was because he had quoted you.

What I see positive in your answers is that you do not hide and give detailed answers to everything. But there is one main issue that you have not addressed:

What about Openchange's data. People have the right to know more details about the company, if it is even registered.

If you are in favor of KYC and blacklisting for legal reasons, at least the entity you support doing those things should have a more extensive published data on their website other than an email.

That question you have not adressed in your detailed responses in this thread.

I am still waiting for a response in this regard, and I think I am not the only one.
3156  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: How does the IRS look at anonymous bitcoin? on: July 06, 2022, 10:25:52 AM
If bitcoin is popular in 20-30 years, then there will always be shadow markets in the world.
In Russia, there are no problems with exchanging cryptocurrencies for fiat and vice versa, and in other countries there are groups in telegram channels where you can exchange cryptocurrencies for fiat. There are many exchange offices in Turkey.

And how would you exchange $1M in Bitcoin for fiat? You live in France, go with your Bitcoins to Turkey and come back to France on the plane with $1M? There is a limit of €10,000 to travel in Europe. The same applies to Telegram groups: Would you meet in person with someone from Telegram to get €1M (or $1M) for your bitcoins? With the cash payment limits in many European countries it is highly unlikely that anyone would have that amount in banknotes.

Exchanging or spending small undeclared amounts is not a problem, when the amount starts to be big it starts to be a problem, and the bigger the amount the bigger the problem.

3157  Other / Meta / Re: Knowing Which Gender is the Most on The Bitcointalk Forum on: July 06, 2022, 10:17:57 AM
Your thread is actually fascist:

Considering that there are at least 68 genders, I don't know how you dare to pose such a heteropatriarchal poll.

This without taking into account that one can change genders many times during their life.
3158  Other / Meta / Re: Anonymous users safety on: July 06, 2022, 09:46:04 AM
-snip

But they can see the flags.

3159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Less Worry: Celcius paid off its $114 million Bitcoin-backed loan in 24 hours. on: July 06, 2022, 08:08:23 AM
Why is Celsius paying-off debt?

Of course, lowering the liquidation price for their WBTC. I got you! But, this was important when liquidation price was around 20k.
Now it's <3k, and they're still paying off debt. Anyone knows the reason for this?

How is this seen in the light of a potential bankruptcy? You are not allowed to choose, whom you pay off and whom not, when filing for bankruptcy.
It does not make really sense to me.

I think the main thing was to lower the liquidation price, as you said. In a bankruptcy you can't do anything, the bankruptcy administrator take the remaining assets and liquidate them to pay the liabilities, partially, obviously, and how the payments are allocated and in what amounts depends on the regulations that are executed by the bankruptcy administrator.

But I think lowering liquidation price was precisely to avoid banruptcy risk.
3160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin reach 18600$ level in this week ends? on: July 06, 2022, 07:44:26 AM
Last week BTC weekly candle closed by 18627$. But as we can see this week BTC is showing a bullish pattern. But still, this week does not end, So what are you guys thinking about this week's BTC moving? Will it break up or down last week candle?
What is your reason for this to happen? what is your position if this happens? are you planning to buy chunks of Bitcoin ? or you are just spreading FUD  now?

I think it is due to a combination of Doritos overdose and boredom, rather than the result of conscientious study, as I have commented in another similar thread.

I don't see the strong bullish pattern anywhere, and I'd like to see it, but I can't. Although prices are practically impossible to predict, I believe that in the current context of reduced liquidity it will be difficult for prices to pull up strongly, at least in the short and medium term.

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