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321  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID on: December 19, 2013, 10:21:06 PM
Unfortunately, it looks like they *may* be able to get Batch 1 Baby Jets out before the end of the year, but it's looking unlikely that Sierras will ship until January IMO.
322  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 [Exclusive] $70 / 20GHS [Limited Quantities] on: December 19, 2013, 10:16:41 PM


This is hardware or a service? :/

Cups.

Please don't send funds to this scammer. Your funds are likely going to disappear and there will be no hashrate to be had from this low life scum.
It takes a *lot* more than wishful thinking to set up a business insured, world class miner hosting facility and to get IT experts and support staff in place to care for these miners.

Also: I don't know how straight up plagiarism is accepted in this gentleman's home culture, but plagiarism and false claims are seen poorly by most people around these parts.

If Black Arrow finds out someone is doing a GB outside of the DZ MC, they *will* charge you 10% of your order, and send you back your BTC - with a 10% haircut. If this gentleman had bothered to read the fine print (AKA the FAQ at BA's site, he would have known that).

Here is Black Arrow's notification three months ago, back in Rounds 9-12, that they're working with bobsag3 for Black Arrow Group Buys: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=311465.msg3357314#msg3357314

Bob just got back from Hong Kong about a week ago after touring their facilities, meeting the entire team, and checking out the FPGA simulating the Minion ASIC. The pics from his visit are in the Black Arrow Custom Hardware thread.
323  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Black Arrow R9-12 threads, DZ Miners Co-op. Plz move ?s and discussion here. on: December 19, 2013, 10:15:04 PM
Thanks again for your work guys!

Loyalty to the coop++.

If you guys ever need a programmer just let me know. (I do C & web dev).


Good Guy Bobsag3 comes thru again!

Thank you for the offer davedx. Who knows? We may take you up on that offer sometime.  Grin



If you need to me help the technically ungifted through using a computer, apparently, that is my lot in life.  *sigh*

You've already been a big help to the Co-op before, so from one IT nerd to another, please don't sell yourself short.  Smiley
324  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED*]R1B: HashFast Baby Jet Upgrade Promo - DZ MC Round 1. Batch 1. Mahalo! on: December 19, 2013, 10:12:35 PM
So, the rumor is that they are shipping end of this week... Any truth to that?

Who knows, Dave.. After all their lies.
However I'am sitting at home and waiting.

I've been waiting to hear real news before I ordered the UPS for this unit to send to firsttimeuser. I'm paying in BTC so I was hoping for a max price in BTC before ordering since I'm paying that out of pocket (as a noob GBC during R1, that was before we included ~20 min. UPS/Batteries in our Round GB share price).

Good thing I didn't order this R1 UPS unit a couple of months ago just to collect dust. I would've been esp. pissed if I had bought it when BTC was under $200.

So: the UPS for this will be ordered for this miner this week since the rumors are that they'll allegedly ship at the end of the week.

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With all of the failed and broken promises they gave us - remember when it was prominently displayed on their site to be shipping Oct. 23-30? pffft - the DZ MC is not even bothering trying to buy Batch 4 miners (esp. now that ALL B4 sales are final and there is NO recourse or refunds offered) with refund terms that are that draconian and HF's failure to meet their promised schedule.

If R1 and R2 Baby Jets don't arrive by Dec. 31, I'm immediately filing for a refund at 10PM Hawaii Standard Time on Dec. 31 (which corresponds to midnight on the West Coast where HF is located) so that we're at the front of any refund queue.

If they do manage to get this shipped before year's end, let's hope the MPP chips aren't far behind because those MPP chips were *originally* scheduled for the beginning of February (assuming Batch 1 was in our hands at the beginning of November).
325  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Black Arrow R9-12 threads, DZ Miners Co-op. Plz move ?s and discussion here. on: December 19, 2013, 09:58:19 PM
Thanks again for your work guys!

Loyalty to the coop++.

If you guys ever need a programmer just let me know. (I do C & web dev).


Good Guy Bobsag3 comes thru again!

Thank you for the offer davedx. Who knows? We may take you up on that offer sometime.  Grin

326  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 [Exclusive] $70 / 20GHS [Limited Quantities] on: December 19, 2013, 03:08:18 AM
Nice to have admirers.  Cheesy  Grin

Just to confirm: bobsag3, a DZ MC leader, is the official US Reseller for Black Arrow, the owner of Miner Hosting LLC & Minersource.net, and is my business partner. The DZ MC has proven ourselves to Black Arrow via our exclusive R9-12 Black Arrow Bullet Run and we are the only allowed sales outlet for BA Prospero X-3 Group Buys.

Scammers need to keep in mind: that profits may be temporary...but karma is forever.  Smiley

327  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: PAPA ASIC - UNmoderated discussions topic on: December 18, 2013, 04:08:35 AM


 Love it.

It's offtopic, but i still would like to know how to send those kind of messages. Anyone share it with me?

Hey RoadStress,

No comment as to whether it's a scam or not - having not done DD on it - but as far as signing: you need to do a "Custom Transaction" under "Send Money"

Just note that: whatever you put in there is FOREVER...forever...forever...<fading away>

 Cheesy
328  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] R21x: Two Bitmain Antminers. $135 BTC = 7.2GH/s + DZ MC Exclusives! on: December 18, 2013, 01:58:26 AM
Just received an R17x Paid order update from Thomas.

Holy cow! We're up to 91.8 TH/s of paid nominal hashrate.

Mahalo everyone for making the DZ MC the largest public Bitcoin Miners Cooperative on the forums and worldwide!
329  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Round 15/16 KnC Jupiter, DZ MC. Please move comments and ?s to this thread. Thx. on: December 18, 2013, 01:56:06 AM
Well, we listen and if there's enough support, we go out and make it happen.

I started Round 21 for Antminers because I also received some other co-op member requests for Bitmain miners.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375077.0

Cheers!
330  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] R21x: Two Bitmain Antminers. $135 BTC = 7.2GH/s + DZ MC Exclusives! on: December 17, 2013, 11:02:43 PM
Interested.
I have only a question: When this will start mine? (+ Delivery about 1 week after order payment, is unclear)

It'll be mining as soon as soon as we get it, and bobsag3 and crew can set it up. Smiley
331  Bitcoin / Group buys / R21x Payment Details on: December 17, 2013, 10:21:48 PM
Please see our site for payment details:

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?p=1329
332  Bitcoin / Group buys / [CLOSED] R21x: 2 BM S1 Antminers. $135 = 7.2GH/s. 75% off first month hosting! on: December 17, 2013, 10:21:04 PM
12/30 Update: R21 has been delayed 2 days because facility #2 wasn't ready for us to move into yet due to necessary electrical work.
Because of the additional 2 day delay: everyone that bought GB shares in R21 now gets 75% off the first month of hosting!

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12/26 Update and Promo:

Good news/Bad news: the equipment's enroute but won't be up until Sunday due to our move to our larger facility #2!
Good news: Everyone that buys R21x shares until Sunday night, 10PM HST on the 29th of the month, gets 50% off the first month of hosting!

12/21 Update: These are now pre-paid.  Smiley

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By request from co-op members in R15/16 and other rounds, here is the DZ Miners Cooperative's first Bitmain Antminer Group Buy!

We're collecting funds for two (2) Antminers for a combined hashrate of about 360 GH/s. If/when we collect enough BTC for 2 Antminers and accessories, we will put an order in with Sushi's Group Buy to host them at our second world class miner hosting facility.


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To reserve shares automatically and for easiest spreadsheet export,
please visit the new DZ Miner's Coop website.


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50 shares available per R21 sub-round (equivalent to 2 Antminers).

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?p=1329


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TL;DR: $135 = 7.2GH/s plus our DZ MC exclusives:

+ Delivery about 1 week after order payment
+ Access to our world class 2nd Miner Hosting Facility (yup, we done broke Facility #1's capacity). This facility was designed by several IT pros (including bobsag3, -Redacted-, and yours truly) with Cryptomining as its sole purpose. This is the same facility or near the similar facility Black Arrow will be using for US Sales & Hosting for North America; bobsag3 is Black Arrow's official US Reseller.
+ 3 PSU units (1 as a hot spare)
+ Estimated 20 minutes backup time from Server Grade UPS units and Battery Bank
+ Gas Generators for longer blackouts
+ Additional A/C cooling (to explore safe overclocking, if the Group Buy chooses to void the warranty)
+ 500 Mbps Verizon FIOS
+ T-Mobile LTE (for redundancy)
+ access to a 24/7 miner support team focused strictly on cryptominers (including DZ MC co-leader thomas_s)
+ access to 5 world class IT experts who have built the largest public Bitcoin Miners Cooperative in the English Speaking world

Hosting/Management is: $275/month per rig + 0.5% Management Fee. Payouts are scheduled for the 1st and 15th of the month for BTC rigs.

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DZ Miners Cooperative Roles for this R21 GB:

DZ - Co-op Founder / overall coordinator of the Co-Operative, background role for R21. Founder/CTO of a newly formed Cryptocurrency focused Intl. Corp. called Cypher Trust LLC. Overseeing payouts and Primary admin for Co-op miners, IT Network Engineer, DoD IT Contractor. Primary GBC for R21x. Questions about BTC payments and questions for R20 may be sent to me (please open a support ticket on our site).

thomas_s
- Primary GBC for Rounds 5-21. COO of our new company, Set up Online Auto Reservations for the co-op! Thank you! Send  thomas_s. Business Degree, works in Finance.

bobsag3
: Vetted Co-op member. World's lowest hosting fees for vetted miner hosting at a professional colocation hosting facility in Missouri!  Official Black Arrow US Reseller and US Distributor for Drillbit Systems. New Pres. of our Mining Operations arm of our LLC. Opening a 2nd and possibly a 3rd Miner Hosting Facility due to overwhelming demand!

-Redacted-: Veteran remote admin. DZ MC Co-op Leader.  DoD IT Consultant.

jungle_dave: Vetted Co-op member and Former Electrical Engineer / Network Engineer. Backup Admin for co-op miners, software support.
If you have questions as to how this whole darn at-cost, Democratic Miners Cooperative that's also a mesh network works, please send me a PM or state your concerns publicly as there's nothing to hide in this co-op.  Smiley

Only hurtful or trolling posts will be deleted as we welcome all valued opinions, insights, concerns, and improvement ideas to improve our at-cost (or even below cost) cooperative of about 120 400+ members (so far).


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DZ's Miner Cooperative, Round 21x ..."The little Co-op that could"...


An At-Cost/Low-Cost Democratic Miner Co-operative with low cost fees for world class, vetted miner hosting/management services:only $275 per month per miner rig for R21x!

~120 400 members: 1 Scientist, 7 admitted IT Pros, 3 Network Engineers, 3 Electrical Engineers, 2 Finance Employee, 6 GB Coordinators, multiple vetted host sites.*

*Note: A listing above does not necessarily indicate that this person runs or contributes to the running of the co-operative, but many of the pros listed have made their services available to the co-operative. Also, there could be more than 7 IT Pros, but some geeks are meek.  Cheesy


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This Co-operative is led by a John K. vetted Network Engineer based in Hawaii, DyslexicZombei or DZ, who gets to design prototype IT hardware and lab/field networks in support of cutting edge research projects, and has been in the line of work of T&E and R&D for nearly 10 years, with 50-60 Hawaii/US Aerospace/IT/R&D/Civ. Engineering Endorsements on LinkedIn. The other remote administrators are jungle_dave who is a former Electrical Engineer and Network Engineer and -Redacted- a UNIX guru and veteran miner. Our local/remote admin is bobsag3, who is also an IT veteran. There are 5 leaders in the DZ MC, with thomas_s and I doing the actual running of the Cooperative.

Mining Equipment will be operated by vetted IT pros or a vetted IT college student, with backup host sites available. Payouts are on the 1st and 15th of the month minus a $150 host fee and a 0.5% management fee, the lowest prices around.

Once sales begin, Refunds are available up until unit ships at 1.5% restock fee. We vote on all buying, shipping, and resale decisions as well as vote on the month to attempt equipment resales after 5-7 months of operations.

Vetted GB Coordinators are encouraged to team up to increase buying power and close out Group Buys quicker. All suggestions are welcome to help improve our Co-operative.

- Approx. total value of GBEC / GBC ASIC/LTC Hardware pre-order sales or pre-sales of shares on this forum by DZ MC since Aug. 15: $650K (before BTC price adjustments)
- Approx. value of DZ ebay ASIC sales (including 10 ebay shares for 3 GBs, worth $1.4K) since Aug.1 : $3.9K

- Several new GBCs and Bitcoin Miner Hosts vetted for free, and several scams pointed out on two BTC related forums.
- Number of FundRaising Rounds completed (many with sub-rounds): 19
- Number of HashFast miners: 2 Baby Jets with paid upgrades, 2 Sierras, 4TH/s+ Total
- Number of KnC miners: 6 Jupiters, 3.6TH/s. 2 Neptunes, 6TH/s.
- Number of Bitmine miners: 2 Rigs, 2 Rounds so far, 3.4 - 5 TH/s
- Number of Black Arrow miners: 80 boards, 3.3 - 4TH /s, 35+ Black Arrow x-3 Prosperos at 2TH/s each
- Total Ordered HashRate: 91.8 TH/s+ Total
- Online Auto reservation system tailored for Group Buys thanks to vetted GBC thomas_s!
- Dual network connections, Server grade UPS units, TWO DZ MC gas generators, and a DZ MC Air Conditioner just for our miners, which will allow us to provide a perfect home to explore Overclocking for DZ MC ASIC miner rigs.
- A VP of his own small oil company in Texas joined us, and is helping us plan and execute future projects. He is now a DZ MC GB Coordinator - working offline deals - and the CEO of the new umbrella Corporation for the DZ MC sub-company and other cryptoventures!



Last order paid: 2nd round of payments for Rounds 17x, Black Arrow Bullet Run (R17x is still available)
333  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID on: December 17, 2013, 07:16:47 PM
Here's the latest update posted on their site today:

https://hashfast.com/update-from-ciara/

"They’ve started assembling Baby Jets (overnight tonight). They aim by night’s end to have the first round of assembly done for 400 Baby Jets."

I put the emphasis on first round.

The wording is a bit vague: does this mean 400 units should be finished by tomorrow or is it that just the first round (of several rounds) of assembly per unit is finished, with more rounds of assembly to go to get to a finished miner?
334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [OPEN] R20x: LTC Ultra Power Rig GB! $212 = 144-160 KH/s + DZ MC Exclusives on: December 17, 2013, 08:22:44 AM
Thanks and Welcome Aboard!

I've been away from the forums for a couple of days and I couldn't find this Round in the GB forum.

I see that this Group Buy has been banished to the winter netherlands of the all in one Alt. coin forum by the mods. You'd think that with all the money they made that the mods would further organize the alt coin subforums to make even more money. Cheesy

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Hey fellow alt.coin fans! Why do I feel like I was sent to the Island of Misfit Toys?  Cheesy

Don't they know that all that glitters is not Bitcoin?
335  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Limited Open]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: December 17, 2013, 08:13:39 AM
this better close soon or I'll be poor!

ok. I just had to get 3 more.
2 + 6 + 1 +3 = 12

i hope these come a month or 2 before the Neptunes hit the market!

Hi bluesticker,

Thanks and Welcome Aboard!
This goes for all of our newcomers, and to our co-op veterans back for more. Smiley
Hope you or anyone else doesn't risk putting living expenses into Bitcoin and Bitcoin miners.  Cry

These are all considered high risk investments that your typical, fuddy duddy stocks/bonds conservative investors would run screaming from. For the most part: Bitcoin miners fit the bill of high risk/high reward investors.

As far as the delivery date of February 24: everything still appears to be on track.

Oh, and someone was asking how many Prosperos were sold? I haven't seen the latest numbers but this has been the most successful DZ MC Group Buy Round so far: something like 35-40 TH/s or more. There are more Round 17x funds that haven't been paid for yet, so the co-op's paid hashrate total I have in my sig should be going up this week.
336  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Black Arrow R9-12 threads, DZ Miners Co-op. Plz move ?s and discussion here. on: December 17, 2013, 08:03:14 AM
bobsag3 is rebuilding the r9-12 hashrate *and* refunding those that were interested in being bought out.

The two goals didn't have to be mutually exclusive. There are more replacement parts/hardware on the way, and lots was learned along the way. Things learned now by both BA and bobsag3 will really benefit the Prospero launch in February IMO.

Thanks for hanging in there guys. As we've seen firsthand: Bullet Runs are about as bleeding edge as you get in the consumer marketplace.
337  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Round 15/16 KnC Jupiter, DZ MC. Please move comments and ?s to this thread. Thx. on: December 17, 2013, 07:56:00 AM
And thanks to everyone that bought into our GBs.

These Group Buys don't succeed without everyone's input, funds, and patience to invest in pre-order miners.

One day, maybe we'll have an industry that truly has lots of stock sitting on shelves with accessible price points, but until then: to get value in mining, Group Buys are the way to go.  Smiley
338  Bitcoin / Mining / DZ Miners Co-op is now offering BTC Mining Contracts. 50%+ less than cex.io! on: December 13, 2013, 04:58:25 AM
Hi,

As the Founder and co-leader of what appears to be the #1 Public Bitcoin miners cooperative in the English speaking world, I'm happy to announce that we're now offering cloud hashrate in late January. We have co-op members in 5 to 6 continents, and at least 2 island chains.

Prices for our mining contracts are currently (and will usually be consistently) 50%+ less than current cex.io prices for equivalent amount of hashrate!

We're selling all-inclusive 1 year Bitcoin mining contracts:

$593 = 1 year of 25-30 GH/s of cloud hashrate + FREE REVENUE REINVESTMENT program + Hosting/Management fees + DZ MC Exclusives + future discounts on mining contract extensions for Year 1 buyers.

Product Link for our first Mining Contracts: http://www.dzminercoop.com/?p=1223


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** We are also working on adding an exchange service to our hashrate and hope to have that section running in January/February. **

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- We have many Full, Senior, and Hero members as happy co-op members/customers. Here are some comments of past customers:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330662.msg3546284#msg3546284

- Here's a partial listing of my online/offline endorsements so far: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280412.msg2997877#msg2997877

- List of all of our GBs so far: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=315198.0

- Crypto related sales/pre-sales so far, since August: $550K+
339  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: December 13, 2013, 04:05:17 AM
I was under the impression it was basically unlimited also, I was going to place an order today Sad
It was more of a we have a ton of units we can sell, however BA has notified us that they are out of batch 1 orders.

With that in mind: we'll be able to take more orders...shortly....

Sorry, we've received word that we need to pause R17x.


We'll reopen this shortly when we get a better estimate of the Batch 2 delivery date and pricing. It should still offer really good pricing compared to the available competition in this time frame.

For quickest notification of the reopening of R17x: please visit our co-op site and subscribe to our newsletter (the link on the right side of side of the page on our site). Newsletter subscribers will get first updates on new offerings and behind the scenes info about the co-op, with the latest calendar and news.

R17x may likely come back as R21x if the delivery date is different from R17x.
340  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Over 100 Bitcoins Stock: Buy Bitcoins at 20% Off. After Black Friday Hot Sales!! on: December 12, 2013, 07:51:38 AM

This offer has hit 5 forums also So Lots of traffic unlike before has already started trooping in and we do hope you wont be left out. Greetings.
BNBL

Yes, this is all well and good. No offense: but that comment is right out of a used car salesman's high pressure sales tactic playbook.

Those kind of comments aren't received well by wary buyers around here. Most of the buyers here aren't brand new to the cryptocurrency world and have seen every kind of scam imaginable.

You still haven't explained what kind of security guarantees are in place or why there's a site graphic that claims that your IDs have been identified, when Site tags clearly say that this is not the case.
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