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961  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 25, 2013, 06:30:50 PM
Ha! The ultimate dibs, you wily miner you.  Cheesy

No worries, I'll refund you immediately if those 2 wayward R2 gents show up for their payments. If not: well, fortune favors the prepared!

Also, thx for confirming wallet address. Plz confirm your wallet address for payouts and include the Round # (some people want to keep miner earnings separate from other miners they own shares in)!
962  Bitcoin / Group buys / [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 25, 2013, 06:28:11 PM
You're welcome! Sorry to be brief via phone but welcome aboard!

18 shares avail
963  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 25, 2013, 06:20:16 PM
Two important questions

1) Is there a spreadsheet for all past and current GBs that indicate the # of shares each person has purchased?
2) Did you post the actual purchase receipts for the currently ordered devices?



1- DZ is currently finalizing the spreadsheet. (It should  be done soon as the GB is basically sold out)

2-
To show that I didn't send it to some guys selling me this sweet, sweet bridge:


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Top.png

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Btm.png

==

Ah dunno though. That bridge deal sounded nice.

==

Here's a share paid via a PayPal/me/Coinbase float (I actually triggered it too early, but ah well): https://blockchain.info/tx/c25e2c37d7acad4a791e4c5e30b373432dc42ea827ad533c844a8439f15dbe02

Finalizing but I'm sending to Thomas this evening so we have all shares and proper ownerships accounted for in R3/R4. I'm taking care of R2 spreadsheet separately as that's still very much in flux (I think 2 R2 shares are unpaid so there's an opportunity there too if payments aren't made by 8PM HST). If there's overpayments after 8PM HST due to people trying to scramble to get those last 2 shares, I'll refund anyone that paid too late, immediately.

Please be patient with us. We're essentially working for free at the moment for the GB Forum. It's been a ton of work behind the scenes to give you these exclusive at-cost prices and sell 3 HashFast miners in a week. The pre-planning we had already accomplished is why we were able to go live w/ a HF Flash Sale within an hour of the email blast.
964  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 25, 2013, 05:41:24 PM
Please send R3/R4 questions and reservations, payment confirmations to Thomas.

I gotta head to work. I'll get to PMs tonight I missed from yesterday, or if possible please mention your urgent concerns to Thomas.

965  Bitcoin / Group buys / [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 25, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
A lil birdy might be right!

23 more shares reserved via PM by gents w/ names starting with: "A" (20 more shares for 23 total) and "J" (3 more shares for 4 total).

20 shares left! Then that's all she wrote!
966  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED]R2:HashFast FTW! + Host, $151.50/share w/ BTCrow. Payments due Wed. 8PM on: September 25, 2013, 05:28:52 PM
The two anon. gents have until 8PM HST to pay for those 2 shares that appear to be outstanding. Going to re-tally the ownership shares today; this flash sale's been gnarly & I'm gonna take a GB break after Round 4.

If I don't see 50.5 BTC in there by 8PM, those last two shares are up for whoever can send payment the quickest (you'll need to prove you sent it afterwards, of course via PM to me) which means -Redacted- might find a lucky blue one!

I intend to buyout R2 on Thursday (which is Friday where the seller lives).
967  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED]R2:HashFast FTW! + Host, $151.50/share w/ BTCrow. Payments due Wed. 8PM on: September 25, 2013, 07:34:29 AM
Also, I still need to pay for 2 shares so that's 1.21BTC x 2 shares = 2.42 BTC (est., values may be diff. tomorrow when I exchange mcxNOW shares I have to BTC)

+ 1.23 BTC I owe user who bought an R2 share a day-ish ago sent to the R3/R4 account (my mistake) = 3.65BTC I owe +40.57 already in wallet = 44.22BTC (est.) so we're close to the 50.5BTC we need. Please send your payments in if you haven't as I got busy w/ that Flash Sale & still need to re-confirm payments.

If not...looks like -Redacted- gets his wish after all & gets a couple of R2 shares!
968  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Additional voting and major decisions for DZ Miner Cooperative, Round 1 gents on: September 25, 2013, 07:22:20 AM
Came out to $42-43 per share with shipping when I calculated it in the R2 thread. Shipping was $138 - 187 IIRC w/ my fake order.

Gents, I tried PMing everyone but I'm limited to 5 members at a time & I'm starting to fade out here tonight. Here's the DropBox link and ownership updates.

Here's the latest ownership breakdown. -Redacted- bought 2 of my shares. Also, I'm donating half a share to a R1 member but I won't list it so as to not call out the member it's being donated to.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3fbc2d0zqsvbp6x/DZ%20Co-op%20Share%20Owner%20List%20-%20HashFast%20-%20Fall%202013.xls

Please let me know if you have trouble viewing the spreadsheet or if you have any questions. Thanks!
969  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED]R2:HashFast FTW! + Host, $151.50/share w/ BTCrow. Payments due Wed. 8PM on: September 25, 2013, 06:56:26 AM
I wish the world was simple.
Its not, lets upgrade because we can !!
DZ can you make the final calculation ?
It would help me figure how many coconuts I have to trade for bitcoins.
Current local rate is 300 to 1 btc !!


Holy cow! That's a lot of coconuts.  Sad

$1,637.35 is the cost of an upgrade unit with Next Day Air Saver. $40.94/share
$1,682.71, with Next Day Air Early AM $42.07/share

Also: 8.0189 BTC sent via PP/me/Coinbase to our wallet for the R2 buyout. 32.5 BTC was already there. Still pending confirmation but should be about 40.57 BTC. I also owe user a............m 1.23 BTC from my mcxNOW shares when we do the buyout. I accidentally sent his R2 funds to an R3 payment for a Sierra which this user is also involved in. Sorry! I mention this now so you guys know there's 1.23 BTC I owe on account of an anon. member. That's why I hold some BTC aside for stuff like this (good advice for any new GBC).

I may also need to check share availability. There *may* be 1 or 2 shares available but I need to check records.

==

Payment for 6.601 shares for largest shareholder in R2 (who is now paid up for 10 shares). Tx ID: fc99e44a1082d26b06aa79db0a446b727137d7163a47cb6c84fda8c1f
970  Bitcoin / Group buys / [43 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 25, 2013, 06:14:22 AM
106.87516728 BTC sent: https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL

77% of the way there and we still have 43 shares left. Not bad!

We've secured the R3 miner and more than half of the R4 miner.
971  Bitcoin / Group buys / [43 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 25, 2013, 06:07:25 AM
Share reserved via PM by a user starting w/ the letter J. They also already paid. Thank you and welcome aboard!

43 shares left.

===

BTC Total in R3/R4 wallet: 51.6877

BTC already sent for R3/R4: 51.6877  

Total BTC in hand or paid: 106.87, 77%
Total BTC needed for full payment: 138.662

972  Bitcoin / Group buys / [44 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 25, 2013, 04:52:10 AM
Let me preface this statement about Avalon & BFL for those that are new to the co-op, I'll help anyone that asks for my help or opinion on this forum. Doesn't matter if they're a competitor here or IRL. Not to toot my horn but I'm involved in 3 education based volunteer community projects in Kauai schools & my IT job is literally to keep modern Research Labs running (oh & go design some stuff when neat projects come up), so helping others comes naturally to me.

Based on the words *and* actions of the public faces of both companies I refuse to have anything to do with Avalon and BFL Group Buys. I find the words and actions of both Sr. company officers here and on BFL's forums to be completely amateurish for Customer Service in *any* industry, derogatory, insensitive, and just plain hurtful. I'll have nothing to do with either company as long as they're the public faces and primary actors for both companies. They may make fine products. They may make the best products in the near future. Still won't have anything to do w/ 2 companies that caused so much anguish and distress among their *already paid* customers.

I'm an empath. Often, I literally *feel* the distress of others & have my whole life, as if it was my own. Yup, always been a softie but this softie has ridden 25' face waves as a teen, and still surfs, and skates (well more like bombs hills and mountains w/ a bunch of diff. land boards). BTW, we call that 25' wave: 10-12' Hawaiian (AKA as "the macho" scale) around here.

==

So back to my phone call to HashFast's VP Marketing & Sales, John S.: I called him because I was trying to secure a 2nd Sierra via 50%-ish deposits for 2 units, 1 w/ MPP (R3), and 1 without (R4) at Flash Sale pricing. Let's just say that it took a while to resolve our R1 order (they even overcharged me & kept it for almost 1.5-2 weeks) so I felt like they owed me. Plus, I can be slightly persuasive.  Cheesy

First off, he said he wasn't pissed off at me at all. Previously, I had mentioned in a PM that HashFast only got 4 votes in the Sept. ASIC miners poll I host (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291775.0 Yup, I told him that) but I still sold a 2nd HashFast miner (well, I was approached w/ a buyout offer from an online friend here, but the result's the same). John said it really takes a lot to get him upset. He's been in marketing for a while, and he says this is the most welcoming market he's ever seen! It helps that they're launching on the heels of bad news from Avalon and BFL, with a huge market void in the price range/performance they had released at (as far as product availability).

John said HF is *not* catering to the hobbyist with Sierras; that's what Baby Jets are for. He didn't know that he was talking to someone that gets to help design custom servers (even proprietary ones) and is a server monkey, so I already knew that what w/ that 2RU rackmount profile meant. He said that while they're a professional company, they're a small start-up that runs very lean. He mentioned that they released the lowest priced unit that they possibly could at the time with the Baby Jet. I said that their customers appreciate it and welcome their product launch and prices.

I mentioned that GBCs such as myself appreciate the prices but that most people can't afford even the cheapest HF unit & that Coordinators such as myself help broaden HashFast's reach, appeal, and accessibility to the average miner, and that my co-op offers at-cost pricing to buyers & that we included UPS/Batt. requisitions into our share prices (to keep BTC flowing during 20-30 minute outages, sags, spikes); essentially, I was helping them out in market for free, at much, much lower price points - three, even two digits for this GB - then they can offer for the foreseeable future. So, that's how we ended up w/ a R4 miner with Flash Sale pricing through the end of the week.

As a small company he said that the stringent CC regulations and the risk of too many chargebacks sinking their company dissuaded them from CC sales. John said that people could do pre-orders which would be used for work and hardware acquisitions, and they could refund them right before shipment (perhaps people selling pre-orders and bailing the orders?) which would sink them at this point if that were to happen. He also mentioned that they looked at BTC escrow but couldn't find anything that could help them that was insured to the levels they need.

I asked him about the 1RU controller for the Sierra & mentioned there was no pricing or product specs for this. He said any cheap 1RU unit would work as long as there were lots of USB ports. He said a Pi (which ships w/ their Baby Jet) could even run a Sierra provided you had (Pi compatible) USB port expanders w/ their own power adapter since Pis don't put out enough oomph (that's a technical term in electronics and automobiles). I have 1 Pi ready to go I was going to ship to Bob before he gets the Sierra miners he's hosting for us. BTW, John's in *sales* so don't hold him to the Pi being able to control a Sierra as gospel.

I also gave him my full name because he'll need it for the buyout we've scheduled for Order 616. I sent HF the links related to the R2 buyout; to "prime the pump." Then, I followed up with emails confirming the things we talked about.

As for John S.: I found him to be engaging, level headed, & while I could tell he was busy I didn't feel rushed in covering questions I had related to various co-op GB Rounds. We laughed about how simple this is compared to our past experiences. I mentioned having to deal with panicking Project Managers in charge of billions of dollars of funding when I used to work at PMRF and he laughed about how friendly everyone was, and hasn't found his customers to be difficult to deal with at all.
973  Bitcoin / Group buys / [44 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 25, 2013, 03:54:25 AM
From both of us: you're welcome! And Thank you!

44 shares available!

Getting to PMs in a bit. I do have to do honey do's too list just like all poor bast...lucky souls.

==

Re: My phone call with John S. yesterday: I didn't get a chance to update although I wanted to. I'm not upgraded to not be able to sleep. Yet.

I'll post about my phone conversation with him in a few minutes. Also, an anonymous largest shareholder in R2 had his PP gift payment cleared to my checking! That means I can go buy this person shares for 6.601 shares in R2 worth about $1K. So I'll take care of that soon.
974  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WSJ reports on BTC mining, is that user ProfMac they interviewed? on: September 25, 2013, 01:41:48 AM
LOL.

That was subtle.
975  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: LOL at this. on: September 25, 2013, 12:48:29 AM
What I want to know is whether there's really a lightning display on the front, or if it's powered by real lightning, or if that's just a dramatization.


The lightning only shows up if you push the "Turbo" button on the front.
976  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [TENTATIVE] Avalon Gen. 2 Chips Group Buy on: September 24, 2013, 10:49:39 PM
I understand where you are coming from. Part of me hopes that this time will be different, since they have pledged to only sell what they already have on hand. Primarily I am looking to recoup the sunk cost of the Klondike components I've bought. The group buy I was in has opted for a refund, and I've got thousands of dollars in Klondike components sitting around and waiting for Avalon chips. I don't imagine I'm the only one in this situation. On top of this, a few of the people who decided to use my assembly service contacted me in public and in private to see if I was willing to do a group buy for the generation 2 chips. So here I am. :-)

DyslexicZombei, though I agree with you, I am one of the people ryepdx is speaking of. The only chance of me recouping some of my losses on the chips, parts and assembly is to use it for gen2 chips. With that said, I still need more details, dates and numbers before making final decision.

I just can't simply trow away thousands of dollars just to make a statement.

For anyone, I agree, stay away from the likes of Avalon and BFL.


Excellent! I totally understand where you guys are coming from, trying to recoup whatever you can from your Avalon expenditures.

I really wasn't trying to stop sales or steal your thunder, but provide more of a gut check because Yifu's behavior is disturbing IMO, no matter what the heck might be happening behind the scenes.

==

If you guys proceed, I wish you all the very best!
977  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 24, 2013, 10:33:28 PM
I already have -Redacted- down for 10 shares for R4.  Grin

He was hoping one of the co-op members would sell him an R2 share so he could complete his DZ Miner's Cooperative GB share Boxed Set.
978  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 24, 2013, 10:28:31 PM
Well, I guess if you buy a group of machines you could classify as a group buy, for you...   Wink

How about we don't get into a contest about who has the most money...   Grin

How about we all agree that we all drank the Bitcoin Miner's Kool Aid and that we all hope to be laughing in a few years about getting in while it was still the groundfloor.  Wink
979  Bitcoin / Group buys / [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea on: September 24, 2013, 10:10:10 PM
6 shares reserved by PM by a Round 3 co-op member.

Thanks and welcome aboard again.
Grin

48 shares remaining.

Looks like we're on track to sell out this loverly 4th miner before Friday night (crossing fingers).
980  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [TENTATIVE] Avalon Gen. 2 Chips Group Buy on: September 24, 2013, 10:03:51 PM
Sorry, I really don't know how you can trust Yifu after everything he's done to your fellow miners. A lot of 'em.

I, for one, will *never* deal with unprofessional, uncaring Avalon and BFL.

Yesterday, I had a phone call with John S., the head of marketing at HashFast. I found him to be a true marketing professional. He appeared to care about his clients, and I found it easy enough to work with him to convince him to let us have access to HashFast Flash Sale pricing up until Friday night thanks to a partially reserved 4th miner, even though the sale ended last night.

Contrast that with Inaba fro BFL & Yifu from Avalon. Over a month ago, I, a true CSR pro and Tier I/II/III IT support person (in addition to network design) offered to help Yifu out of his self-inflicted hole when he came out of so-called "mafia" hiding. I would've gotten every one of those refunds done in a week, two weeks tops. So instead of letting people that actually like doing CSR work fix the problem he created, he just ignored me like everyone else he ignored...and people and some Group Buys are still waiting months for refunds.

You can do whatever you want, of course, since we have free will. But from what I've seen from GBC after GBC, I only see pain and headaches for people trying to organize Avalon Gen 2 pre-orders.

Don't you see all the threads about people *still* waiting months for Avalon chip or system refunds? You really should read SebastianJu's post on the top of this forum before proceeding IMHO.

What's your take on all that angst and anger?
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