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541  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] R11:BLACK ARROW Bullet Run w Bitfury. 40% off. $123=8-10GH Nov. 1 on: November 02, 2013, 08:16:33 PM
Gents and ladies, a Saturday, 11/2 update:

- Bob's been having problems chaining the miners beyond a certain point which has limited his ability to stack miners as he only has so many Pis to go around. He seems to have gotten past much of the earlier issues but can't stack more than 6 at the moment (the goal was 10 boards per Pi)
- He's blown a few Pis and a couple of PSUs during his testing.
- He's currently up to almost 1 TH (our target is 3.2 - 4 TH, combined from all 4 Rounds
- He's currently short Pis due to them failing,and his overnight shipment of a bunch of extras from Amazon is stuck at UPS till Monday
- We've learned a lot too: Bullet Runs can be messy, best to have waaay more supplies than you think you needed

- Because I promised optimistically that the boards would be running by now, we're going to make up the hashrate difference based on the following schedule:

Rounds 9/10 should be up to 1TH today, the target is 1.68 - 2TH/s: This pool has just started mining, but there's no dashboards set up yet. When mining deposits appear they're heading to this Black Arrow Bullet Run wallet address: https://blockchain.info/address/1JazVMG7E47ceaTnwbGzeGsrAQeURniwZV

For calculation purposes - Since yesterday, Nov.1, for daily coins expected to be mined I'll be using www.bitcoinx.com as a calculator for lost hashrate compensation calculations unless someone else has a better suggestion.

Rounds 11/12 should be running by the end of the day in Missouri by Monday evening: If hashrate is less than the promised 1.68 TH/s for R11/12 by Tuesday morning, then the same calculations listed above for lost hashrate calculations still apply.


===============================================================================================================


We'd rather take a small hit and keep our co-op members happy, then to have upset co-op members due to the delays. With this in mind, Bobsag3 is adding 3 extra boards per GB (instead of 1 extra) in order to improve hashrate and make up for lost mining power for each Group Buy Round.

If this extra hashrate still doesn't compensate for lost time/hashrate at the end of the mining period, then bobsag3 and the DZ MC will be compensating you directly.
542  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] R10: BLACK ARROW Bullet Run w Bitfury! 40% off, $123=8-10GH Nov 1 on: November 02, 2013, 08:16:06 PM
Gents and ladies, a Saturday, 11/2 update:

- Bob's been having problems chaining the miners beyond a certain point which has limited his ability to stack miners as he only has so many Pis to go around. He seems to have gotten past much of the earlier issues but can't stack more than 6 at the moment (the goal was 10 boards per Pi)
- He's blown a few Pis and a couple of PSUs during his testing.
- He's currently up to almost 1 TH (our target is 3.2 - 4 TH, combined from all 4 Rounds
- He's currently short Pis due to them failing,and his overnight shipment of a bunch of extras from Amazon is stuck at UPS till Monday
- We've learned a lot too: Bullet Runs can be messy, best to have waaay more supplies than you think you needed

- Because I promised optimistically that the boards would be running by now, we're going to make up the hashrate difference based on the following schedule:

Rounds 9/10 should be up to 1TH today, the target is 1.68 - 2TH/s: This pool has just started mining, but there's no dashboards set up yet. When mining deposits appear they're heading to this Black Arrow Bullet Run wallet address: https://blockchain.info/address/1JazVMG7E47ceaTnwbGzeGsrAQeURniwZV

For calculation purposes - Since yesterday, Nov.1, for daily coins expected to be mined I'll be using www.bitcoinx.com as a calculator for lost hashrate compensation calculations unless someone else has a better suggestion.

Rounds 11/12 should be running by the end of the day in Missouri by Monday evening: If hashrate is less than the promised 1.68 TH/s for R11/12 by Tuesday morning, then the same calculations listed above for lost hashrate calculations still apply.


===============================================================================================================


We'd rather take a small hit and keep our co-op members happy, then to have upset co-op members due to the delays. With this in mind, Bobsag3 is adding 3 extra boards per GB (instead of 1 extra) in order to improve hashrate and make up for lost mining power for each Group Buy Round.

If this extra hashrate still doesn't compensate for lost time/hashrate at the end of the mining period, then bobsag3 and the DZ MC will be compensating you directly.
543  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] R9: BLACK ARROW Bullet Run w Bitfury Chips! 40% off + HOST + UPS +Bonus on: November 02, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
Gents and ladies, a Saturday, 11/2 update:

- Bob's been having problems chaining the miners beyond a certain point which has limited his ability to stack miners as he only has so many Pis to go around. He seems to have gotten past much of the earlier issues but can't stack more than 6 at the moment (the goal was 10 boards per Pi)
- He's blown a few Pis and a couple of PSUs during his testing.
- He's currently up to almost 1 TH (our target is 3.2 - 4 TH, combined from all 4 Rounds
- He's currently short Pis due to them failing,and his overnight shipment of a bunch of extras from Amazon is stuck at UPS till Monday
- We've learned a lot too: Bullet Runs can be messy, best to have waaay more supplies than you think you needed

- Because I promised optimistically that the boards would be running by now, we're going to make up the hashrate difference based on the following schedule:

Rounds 9/10 should be up to 1TH today, the target is 1.68 - 2TH/s: This pool has just started mining, but there's no dashboards set up yet. When mining deposits appear they're heading to this Black Arrow Bullet Run wallet address: https://blockchain.info/address/1JazVMG7E47ceaTnwbGzeGsrAQeURniwZV

For calculation purposes - Since yesterday, Nov.1, for daily coins expected to be mined I'll be using www.bitcoinx.com as a calculator for lost hashrate compensation calculations unless someone else has a better suggestion.

Rounds 11/12 should be running by the end of the day in Missouri by Monday evening: If hashrate is less than the promised 1.68 TH/s for R11/12 by Tuesday morning, then the same calculations listed above for lost hashrate calculations still apply.


===============================================================================================================


We'd rather take a small hit and keep our co-op members happy, then to have upset co-op members due to the delays. With this in mind, Bobsag3 is adding 3 extra boards per GB (instead of 1 extra) in order to improve hashrate and make up for lost mining power for each Group Buy Round.

If this extra hashrate still doesn't compensate for lost time/hashrate at the end of the mining period, then bobsag3 and the DZ MC will be compensating you directly.
544  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED*]R1B: HashFast Baby Jet Upgrade Promo - DZ MC Round 1. Batch 1. Mahalo! on: November 02, 2013, 08:14:25 PM
Philip publicly voted for a refund.

I'll take that as a call for a vote in R1.

Please let your voice be heard and we'll go from there once we have a majority decision.
545  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [**OPEN**]R2B:HashFast + Host, Dbl. HashRate Upgrade, $43, 10-13GH/s MPP on: November 02, 2013, 08:12:32 PM
Well, we're a democratic co-op.

You guys/gals let me know if you want me to open voting for this.  I'm bummed about the delay too. I'll support whatever the majority of shareholders decide.

It's your co-op, I'm just lucky enough to happen to run it.  Grin
546  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN, 29/100] R12: Black Arrow BF Bullet Run $123 = 39% cheaper than cex.io! on: November 02, 2013, 08:05:47 PM
Gents and ladies, a Saturday, 11/2 update:

- Bob's been having problems chaining the miners beyond a certain point which has limited his ability to stack miners as he only has so many Pis to go around. He seems to have gotten past much of the earlier issues but can't stack more than 6 at the moment (the goal was 10 boards per Pi)
- He's blown a few Pis and a couple of PSUs during his testing.
- He's currently up to almost 1 TH (our target is 3.2 - 4 TH, combined from all 4 Rounds
- He's currently short Pis due to them failing,and his overnight shipment of a bunch of extras from Amazon is stuck at UPS till Monday
- We've learned a lot too: Bullet Runs can be messy, best to have waaay more supplies than you think you needed

- Because I promised optimistically that the boards would be running by now, we're going to make up the hashrate difference based on the following schedule:

Rounds 9/10 should be up to 1TH today, the target is 1.68 - 2TH/s: This pool has just started mining, but there's no dashboards set up yet. When mining deposits appear they're heading to this Black Arrow Bullet Run wallet address: https://blockchain.info/address/1JazVMG7E47ceaTnwbGzeGsrAQeURniwZV

For calculation purposes - Since yesterday, Nov.1, for daily coins expected to be mined I'll be using www.bitcoinx.com as a calculator for lost hashrate compensation calculations unless someone else has a better suggestion.

Rounds 11/12 should be running by the end of the day in Missouri by Monday evening: If hashrate is less than the promised 1.68 TH/s for R11/12 by Tuesday morning, then the same calculations listed above for lost hashrate calculations still apply.


===============================================================================================================


We'd rather take a small hit and keep our co-op members happy, then to have upset co-op members due to the delays. With this in mind, Bobsag3 is adding 3 extra boards per GB (instead of 1 extra) in order to improve hashrate and make up for lost mining power for each Group Buy Round.

If this extra hashrate still doesn't compensate for lost time/hashrate at the end of the mining period, then bobsag3 and the DZ MC will be compensating you directly.
547  Bitcoin / Group buys / [OPEN, 29/100] R12: Black Arrow BF Bullet Run $123 = 39% cheaper than cex.io! on: November 02, 2013, 12:21:00 AM
Correction: 29 shares are available at the moment.
548  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Is payonix.com a legitimate AISC H/w manufacturer in Australia? on: November 01, 2013, 10:57:19 PM
From their Terms and Conditions:

"2. PAYMENT.
(a) Payments are due in the amounts, in the currency, and at the time stated in the order or confirmation sent by Payonix, or if not so stated: (a) paid Bitcoin, to the account designated by Payonix; (b) within thirty (30) days of date of invoice. If Payonix incurs exchange rate losses due to Buyer’s failure to pay when payments are due, Payonix shall be entitled to equivalent compensation from Buyer for such losses. Payonix is not responsible for pricing, typographical or other errors in any offer by Payonix and reserves the right to cancel any orders arising from such errors.

(b) Interest will accrue on all late payments, at the rate of 18% per annum or the applicable statutory rate, whichever is higher and to the extent permitted by applicable law, from the due date until payment in full. In the event of any default by Buyer in the payment of any fees or charges due, or any other default by Buyer, Payonix shall have the right to refuse delivery of any Products until payments are brought current and Payonix may suspend, delay or cancel any credit, delivery or any other performance by Payonix. Such right shall be in addition to, and not in lieu of, any other rights and remedies available under these Terms or at law or in equity for Buyer’s default."



Now, I'm *not* a contract expert (although I'm undergoing a crash course from a fellow co-op GBC who is also a VP of his own company) but I'd have to say that these payment terms seem to be virtually indistinguishable to a hamfisted prostate massage.

Wait: so you mean I could order in a few weeks, and pay COD when they show up? Sign me up!  Cheesy
549  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Is payonix.com a legitimate AISC H/w manufacturer in Australia? on: November 01, 2013, 10:48:38 PM
seems legit

https://payonix.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=56

" You can daisy chain these in a powered USB hub for a mega Asic miner. "


I concur, powered USB hubs can help you daisy chain (sic) a mega Asic (sic) miner.

In their defense: my Cantonese or Mandorin's not so hot either unless you want me to say Happy New Year.
550  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN, 26/100] R12: Black Arrow BF Bullet Run $123 = 39% cheaper than cex.io! on: November 01, 2013, 09:14:04 PM
So are these miners performing at 8 GHS and not 10 GHS? How will we be compensated?
 

They promised 8.34 as  min.  So 5%  Rebate?  5% of 123 usd is about 6-7 usd.
or .03btc
 per share.   Of course a day or 2 of tweak and they may run at 8.5 to 9 or 10


Sorry if that wasn't clear in the good news/bad news update a few posts up. In my defense, I'm under heavy antibiotics and dealing w/ a sinus infection, so I might not be Englishing the best right now.

Since he's the official BA US Reseller, he has extra boards. For underperformance: he'll add a 21st board to the chain in order to get to that minimum 8.34 GH/s hashrate. He's not going to leave you out to dry. We're not you-know-who: those two companies which shouldn't be spoken of IMO.  Tongue

He was getting within 10% of the advertised rate with his latest update.

A good sized shipment of Pis are also due in today and is out for delivery.
551  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] R11:BLACK ARROW Bullet Run w Bitfury. 40% off. $123=8-10GH Nov. 1 on: November 01, 2013, 08:46:05 PM
You're welcome! Most of the hard work's at the moment is being done by bobsag3, so let's all give him a virtual pat on the back.   Smiley

Latest pics:

Unboxing
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/c6c0691a-6c27-4ead-8647-2da4b9a91778.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/f41e6ac6-274e-42af-b4ca-e2fdcf56d3b6.jpg

chainminer screenshot, 96 chips: http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/96chips1.png

6 board stack, working: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r77umsa7eoo7x58/Photo%20Nov%2001%2C%202%2003%2000%20PM.jpg
chainminer screenshot from this stack (slight under performance which should be improved by native chainminer support): http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/ScreenShot2013-11-01at15835PM.png

I realized that I'm a little bummed that they're underperforming, but sometimes things don't always work out with initial implementations. But on the bright side this was guaranteed to be shipping by Nov. 1 and we're fortunate to have already received it! kano has been shipped a simultaneous shipment so he'll hopefully be able to tweak some improvements while he adds native BA support to chainminer.

Group Buyers are going to be compensated for any under performance of the 8.34 GH/s mark per share that was promised.
552  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] R10: BLACK ARROW Bullet Run w Bitfury! 40% off, $123=8-10GH Nov 1 on: November 01, 2013, 08:44:58 PM
Latest pics:

Unboxing
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/c6c0691a-6c27-4ead-8647-2da4b9a91778.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/f41e6ac6-274e-42af-b4ca-e2fdcf56d3b6.jpg

chainminer screenshot, 96 chips: http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/96chips1.png

6 board stack, working: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r77umsa7eoo7x58/Photo%20Nov%2001%2C%202%2003%2000%20PM.jpg
chainminer screenshot from this stack (slight under performance which should be improved by native chainminer support): http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/ScreenShot2013-11-01at15835PM.png

I realized that I'm a little bummed that they're under performing, but sometimes things don't always work out with initial implementations. But on the bright side this was guaranteed to be shipping by Nov. 1 and we're fortunate to have already received it! kano has been shipped a simultaneous shipment so he'll hopefully be able to tweak some improvements while he adds native BA support to chainminer.

Group Buyers are going to be compensated for any under performance of the 8.34 GH/s mark per share that was promised.
553  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] R9: BLACK ARROW Bullet Run w Bitfury Chips! 40% off + HOST + UPS +Bonus on: November 01, 2013, 08:44:08 PM
Latest pics:

Unboxing
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/c6c0691a-6c27-4ead-8647-2da4b9a91778.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/f41e6ac6-274e-42af-b4ca-e2fdcf56d3b6.jpg

chainminer screenshot, 96 chips: http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/96chips1.png

6 board stack, working: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r77umsa7eoo7x58/Photo%20Nov%2001%2C%202%2003%2000%20PM.jpg
chainminer screenshot from this stack (slight under performance which should be improved by native chainminer support): http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/ScreenShot2013-11-01at15835PM.png

I realized that I'm a little bummed that they're underperforming, but sometimes things don't always work out with initial implementations. But on the bright side this was guaranteed to be shipping by Nov. 1 and we're fortunate to have already received it! kano has been shipped a simultaneous shipment so he'll hopefully be able to tweak some improvements while he adds native BA support to chainminer.

Group Buyers are going to be compensated for any under performance of the 8.34 GH/s mark per share that was promised.
554  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN, 26/100] R12: Black Arrow BF Bullet Run $123 = 39% cheaper than cex.io! on: November 01, 2013, 08:38:30 PM
Can one pay with USD ?

Hi stex2009, please see post 2 of any of my Rounds for payment info. We offer a variety of options that a lot of GBCs don't offer.

We take USD but under certain conditions. A service we can recommend is www.cashintocoins, if you're in the US.

==

Latest pics:

Unboxing
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/c6c0691a-6c27-4ead-8647-2da4b9a91778.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/f41e6ac6-274e-42af-b4ca-e2fdcf56d3b6.jpg

chainminer screenshot, 96 chips: http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/96chips1.png

6 board stack, working: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r77umsa7eoo7x58/Photo%20Nov%2001%2C%202%2003%2000%20PM.jpg
chainminer screenshot from this stack (slight under performance which should be improved by native chainminer support): http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/ScreenShot2013-11-01at15835PM.png

I realized that I'm a little bummed that they're underperforming, but sometimes things don't always work out with initial implementations. But on the bright side this was guaranteed to be shipping by Nov. 1 and we're fortunate to have already received it! kano has been shipped a simultaneous shipment so he'll hopefully be able to tweak some improvements while he adds native BA support to chainminer.

Group Buyers are going to be compensated for any under performance of the 8.34 GH/s mark per share that was promised.
555  Bitcoin / Group buys / [OPEN, 26/100] R12: Black Arrow BF Bullet Run $123 = 39% cheaper than cex.io! on: November 01, 2013, 07:28:17 PM
two more for me to bring it up to 14 total.

https://blockchain.info/tx/e072ab276254f1ed86f7ef11774fc217bb44bb21d2df34e80f42b61ef274da2c


Same payout as the R9 and R10 in the spreadsheet.

Awesome! Welcome back!

I have an update: some good news, bad news.

Bad: He's still working out the chaining of the miners. This is important because he only has so many Pis. We're also seeing a little under performance as far as hashrate but kano is working on the cgminer chainminer integration so we should see improvements on that. Such is life on the bleeding edge of a bullet run.

Good: Since bobsag3 is basically Good Guy Bob he's going to make sure that to add a board to our 20 board stack to get our min. hashrate to 8.34GH/s as promised while software issues are worked on. He also managed to stack 6 boards, so far, even with the issues he's seeing.

Bobsag's busy as heck but I'll post some pics he shared with me as soon as I upload them to my cloud photos.

===

Also: 26 shares available.


There will be a pause before R13 so that we can let bobsag3 get caught up so that R9-12 are taken care of properly.
556  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] R11:BLACK ARROW Bullet Run w Bitfury. 40% off. $123=8-10GH Nov. 1 on: November 01, 2013, 07:27:11 PM
Paid for my 4 shares! (#394)

There was a 20$ usd difference from current coinbase price and price from the site. Is that normal?
Thanks

Hi Etienne,

Sorry to hear that. We're all about trying to save you guys money. BTC is still so young there's tons of volatility between exchanges.
We use Bitstamp as the rate we go with because it seems like all of our mfgs. we've bought from so far priced their product at this rate.


==

I have an update: some good news, bad news.

Bad: He's still working out the chaining of the miners. This is important because he only has so many Pis. We're also seeing a little under performance as far as hashrate but kano is working on the cgminer chainminer integration so we should see improvements on that. Such is life on the bleeding edge of a bullet run.

Good: Since bobsag3 is basically Good Guy Bob he's going to make sure that to add a board to our 20 board stack to get our min. hashrate to 8.34GH/s as promised while software issues are worked on. He also managed to stack 6 boards, so far, even with the issues he's seeing.

Bobsag's busy as heck but I'll post some pics he shared with me as soon as I upload them to my cloud photos.
557  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] R10: BLACK ARROW Bullet Run w Bitfury! 40% off, $123=8-10GH Nov 1 on: November 01, 2013, 07:25:23 PM
I have an update: some good news, bad news.

Bad: He's still working out the chaining of the miners. This is important because he only has so many Pis. We're also seeing a little under performance as far as hashrate but kano is working on the cgminer chainminer integration so we should see improvements on that. Such is life on the bleeding edge of a bullet run.

Good: Since bobsag3 is basically Good Guy Bob he's going to make sure that to add a board to our 20 board stack to get our min. hashrate to 8.34GH/s as promised while software issues are worked on. He also managed to stack 6 boards, so far, even with the issues he's seeing.

Bobsag's busy as heck but I'll post some pics he shared with me as soon as I upload them to my cloud photos.
558  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] R9: BLACK ARROW Bullet Run w Bitfury Chips! 40% off + HOST + UPS +Bonus on: November 01, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
When I saw the above tracking info for Rolla, MO. I just started to laugh. I attended the University of Missouri - Rolla (UMR) many years ago. Prior to it's joining the University of Missouri system, it had been called the "Missouri School of Mines" (aka MSM). I think it's only appropriate that a "Bitcoin Mining" operation is in such close proximity to MSM. Something tells me that the Geology Department won't be adding "Bitcoin Mining 101" to the curriculum any time soon.  Wink

Best of luck Bob in your setup of R9.

Cool! It's a small world after all. I heard that in a song somewhere.  Cheesy
oil

Funny that you would mention geography. A funny thing is our newest vetted co-op GB Coordinator, our 6th, isn't even registered here yet but is a VP of his own small but active oil company in Texas. He likes gold/silver and sees BTC as both digital gold and a good hedge. If even oil money is starting to show up in Bitcoin I'd say our little BTC is starting to grow up.  Grin

I have an update: some good news, bad news.

Bad: He's still working out the chaining of the miners. This is important because he only has so many Pis. We're also seeing a little under performance as far as hashrate but kano is working on the cgminer chainminer integration so we should see improvements on that. Such is life on the bleeding edge of a bullet run.

Good: Since bobsag3 is basically Good Guy Bob he's going to make sure that to add a board to our 20 board stack to get our min. hashrate to 8.34GH/s as promised while software issues are worked on. He also managed to stack 6 boards, so far, even with the issues he's seeing.

Bobsag's busy as heck but I'll post some pics he shared with me as soon as I upload them to my cloud photos.
559  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: Advanced Mining Technology (AMT) on: November 01, 2013, 04:52:09 PM
I can escrow BTC sales for anything legal at BTCcrow as an official Escrow Affiliate at 1.5%, paid by the buyer.

AMT has not indicated if they support escrow but IMO it'd still be cheaper for them than PP or CC without the risk of chargeback.

FWIW: Miramyn is a customer of mine and I haven't had a single issue with him. I've found him to be a pleasure to deal with (like all of our customers). IMHO I don't believe that your forum rep has a thick enough skin or the patience to deal with this demanding market and it's generally bad form to accuse your paid customers of something they didn't do just because they have concerns about their order. I say this as someone that has over 25 years of sales experience. If you're making an accusation like that, one should be 100% correct or you're soon going to be seen as Inaba 2.0 here.

Ya gotta be a duck in Customer Service and let complaints roll off like water off a duck's back.

PS. How are you sure that Miramyn wasn't a US soldier in Afghanistan trying to get miners sent to his house? We still have troops there even though it hardly makes the news nowadays.
560  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Logic of a Group Buy and Escrow Protection (for noobs) on: November 01, 2013, 07:49:21 AM
I'd say that working with Thomas, bobsag3, and -Redacted- has worked out well to provide great Group Buy values and improvements.

Only 1 month and 4 days later: we nearly quadrupled our sales from $30K to $112K!

I can only assume that people are interested in getting access to the best value miners at the lowest possible costs via Group Buys.

==

And as always - don't forget that when in doubt: use escrow!

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