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321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 05, 2024, 07:14:06 AM
does anyone know if the market is already open in Saudi Arabia?

Quite strange we haven't ear yet big offers from them.
Maybe their funds are starting to run low  Smiley or it could be that they are evaluating that buying star players who are quite old will not always have a good impact on the club, at least that can be seen with Karim Benzema at Ittihad FC and also Neymar Jr at Al Hilal, although Neymar is more due to injury but Al Hilal was still luckier because they managed to buy Mitrovic, who performed brilliantly in his first season at the club.

I think it is the latter as they now realize that buying old players isn't the best solution and the effect they were hoping for in terms of global attention might also be lower than expected. For instance, was signing Benzema a good idea? They thought they would be signing a former world football player who is making the league better and get more people to follow and watch it and become SPL fans, but no it is not happening. The Benzema effect is probably zero. I think they will reconsider their approach and sign less controversial players who aren't too polarizing. But I think we will again see a wave of big transfers in the next summer transfer window at the lastest.
322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 04, 2024, 04:34:23 PM
It's different between coaches and players, so coaches have nothing to do with a person's career as a football player and there are even some great coaches who are not basically football players.
It's a bias.

There are some great coaches who weren't football players, but most of good coaches were football players.

It's make sense because you can't feel a sense how a good strategy and team play was supposed to, the way is become the player. Arsene Wenger is one of most popular coaches who wasn't a player.

Are we talking about football players like someone has ever played football no matter in what league or are you guys talking about coaches that were unknown football players?

Because I was surprised when I read that you said Arsene Wenger was not a player, but he played over 280 professional games. He wasn't in the best leagues all the time, but it's called professional football in my opinion.
323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 04, 2024, 04:19:39 PM
Just as we cannot be too sure of who will win the league is the same way that we cannot y which club will be on relegation now till the last month of the season. You should know that football is full of surprises and we should expect the unexpected as time goes by. Cagliari is facing difficulties since this season and if they don't improve, they might go to relegation, but if they improve in their performance, they will still remain in the league. As the season keep drawing close to the end, you will be surprised with the performance of some weak clubs.

But I would tend to believe that it is easier to say who might win Serie A than it is to say who will be relegated into Serie B. Inter Milan is for many reasons the biggest favorite. A draw like against Genoa can happen once in a while, this is really nothing out of the ordinary. But the kind of way how Inter Milan is winning most of their games sets them apart from the rest. Juventus Turin is result-oriented and all that counts is the win, the 3 points. Which is ok and if they are successful, they are right. But Inter Milan wants to play awesome, fun to watch football and show their opponents who the real boss is. Their goal difference is telling the whole story here. I believe that Juventus Turin is closer to losing two games in a row than Inter Milan will ever be this season.
324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 04, 2024, 02:39:56 PM
Atletico Madrid and Barcelona are the two top La Liga teams that have been beaten by Girona so I think Girona has nothing more to prove this season for them to be able to occupy the top position of the standings and compete fiercely in the race for the La Liga title this season, Girona is really enough strong.

The number of goals scored in this match was something that had been predicted from the start and it was quite reasonable because both teams were strong teams who were quite productive in scoring goals, but Girona's winning goal which was scored at the end of the match was a sign that they had strength and also Pretty good mentality, overall I think Girona deserved to win the match, they played better and more effectively.

No team has ever won a title for beating Atletico Madrid or Barcelona. I can't remember that the La Liga trophy was handed over when a game ended for a team with a win against any of these two aforementioned teams.

If Girona wants to prove that they belong to the position they are now in, the proof they have to deliver is huge. The proof means to outcompete any team behind them over the next 19 games, 50% of the season still to go. If they are then still ahead of Atletico Madrid and Barcelona, I agree that by then the time has come that nothing has to be proven anymore.

I doubt that Arsenal thinks that way about last season when they led the table for so long, as if they didn't have to prove anything anymore. They lost in the end. The same can happen to Girona.
325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 04, 2024, 02:10:04 PM
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Lukaku is no longer suitable for the EPL. Actually, we cannot say that he is very old. He is 30 years old not old actually, he is so tall and he loses his speed, so in my opinion, he is not suitable anymore. It would be best for him to stay in Italy, if such a wish even exists.

This player is no longer on Chelsea's agenda. In order to get out of these problems, they need to decide on the right players again to be a competitive team in the EPL.

I think he is a player who fits into very specific team profiles with the qualities he has. Age isn't the problem yet and I wouldn't generalize the thesis that he can't play well in the Premier League. I think he can, but he needs the right team around him that in turn needs what Lukaku has to offer. I don't see that as the Premier League is mostly about high speed and running up and down. He is a powerful striker who knows how to keep the ball closely to his body, how to keep the distance between him and his opponents and to gain time for other players to move up the pitch. He is also good at making quick moves in the box despite his massive body. But most clubs are looking for the Haalands and Mbappes and Vini Juniors. He isn't like that.
326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 03, 2024, 02:18:31 PM
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They just buy expensively and then loan them to other teams and then let them go for cheaper. Grin

Corrrect. Lukaku is no longer young so he would be more suitable for Serie A, especially AS Roma. Because he found a suitable coach and had actually worked with him at a previous club. Mourinho and Lukaku already understand each other. So now we can see AS Roma improving slightly on the front line after bringing in Lukaku. Unfortunately their defense is still bad so they are still having difficulty getting into the top 4.

Yes but the idea to bring him back to the Premier League would be stupid. I don't know what Chelsea's plans look like because as far as I know it is about them right? He is still a loan player for AS Roma and if Lukaku now scores a lot of goals in this season for Roma, I see the worst case coming that Chelsea wants to try it again with him and he would waste another year with the Blues.
327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 03, 2024, 02:09:46 PM
Real Madrid has not lost a single game of the last 17 games they played. They have the best defense in La Liga and they are the only team with Manchester City to finish the Champions League group with the full 18 points out of 6 games. I understand that they are suffering from injuries, but this isn't the first time Vinicius Junior is injured this season. They had to replace him for quite a while already and yet were able to play successfully.

There is still some time left for their players to recover and I don't see them being on the verge of instability. They have done it well until now and of course there is a limit for every club to handle injuries. But for now they are good.
Yes, even with the lack of defenders that Real Madrid currently has, they still have a good defense. I still don't believe they have a stable performance, maybe if this happened to another team then it would definitely be easy to concede the goal because of the weak defense. But Real Madrid also has two goalkeepers who have played very well this season, namely Kepa and Lunin, both of whom often rotate according to the team's needs and rarely concede goals.

Several players have been confirmed to return, except for those with ACL injuries, such as Militao, Alaba and Courtois, who will probably be back for quite some time to strengthen the main squad. But that doesn't seem to be a problem because Ancelotti knows how to manage the existing squad so that he can still get maximum results in every match.

Real Madrid has a big advantage over other teams and that is the strategy, which implies that their defense beings with their offenders. This is why Bellingham is so key to their game. Their attack is their first defensive line, which is quite unusual when you look at many of the other teams where the strikers wait around the middle of the pitch to get the ball. But Bellingham is a beast, he must have lungs like an animal given how much he is going back and forth on the pitch. He is as good as a midfielder and defender as he is as a striker. This is exceptional and I haven't seen this ambivalence in a player before.
328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 02, 2024, 05:29:22 PM
There are 20 games to go from now and it is only 5 points between Udinese as 15th and Salernitana as 20th. That leaves Salernitana with three spots to realistically go for to avoid relegation at the end of the season. That doesn't sound to me as if that was a mission impossible. The win has shown that they are still alive and kicking. If they can beat Verona, nothing speaks against beating any of the other four teams that are in the relegation area. Frosinone hasn't won any of their last five games and is crashing at the moment.
Because there are still a lot of games left, it is actually very difficult to see which teams will actually be relegated at this time. Because it is possible that the teams that are currently in the relegation zone will start to rise and start to avoid the relegation zone.

Salernitana are currently at the bottom of the standings and they seemed to be struggling at the start of the season. but then in the last few matches we can see Salernitana starting to show quite good improvement. Milan even managed to be held to a draw by Salernitana.

Udinese actually quite surprised me with the victory they achieved against Bologna. Bologna have been quite strong this season and it is surprising to see Udinese beat them. I think from the middle of the season there will be a lot of big changes in the standings.

That's obviously a problem, but only considering the points that all those teams have falls a bit short of a comprehensive analysis. In my opinion we should also be looking at the trends of those teams because that could mean something positive for Salernitana.

They won the game against a competitor which is fighting against the relegation zone, too. Additionally, Salernitana was able to win a point in the draw against AC Milan and that was a good game for them. I think they can use their positive momentum for good here.
329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 02, 2024, 04:34:20 PM
At Real Madrid, they have a strong liking for Xabi Alonso's potential as a head coach, and they believe that sooner or later, he will take on the role at Real Madrid. Recently, Real Madrid extended Ancelotti's contract until 2026. It will be delayed Xabi will leave his current club for Madrid before 2026. Summing up the substantial timeframe, he might consider moving to one of his former clubs during this period. Anything is possible, and Xabi Alonso has certainly earned the opportunity to work with a top team as a head coach.

To me it looks all set up for Xabi Alonso to go to Real Madrid in 2026. Of course this all depends whether or not we will see some coaches get sacked and so on. But if Ancelotti fulfills his contract with Real Madrid and Xabi Alonso does not get bought out from Leverkusen or does not get sacked until then, I think that would be a smooth transition and enough time for everyone to do all the necessary planning for the future. Leverkusen knows that there is hardly any chance to keep Alonso beyond the year 2026 when his contract ends.
330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 02, 2024, 12:27:23 PM


He was dumped by Chelsea, then Roma took him and turned him into a dangerous winger in Serie A and after that he returned to the EPL but with a different club until finally making Mohammed Salah enter the list of the top 5 top scorers in one EPL club. Who would have thought he would do it with Liverpool and since wearing the Liverpool uniform in 2017 until now he has collected 151 goals in the EPL. In last night's match against Newcastle he scored a brace and at the same time led Liverpool to victory again at Anfield.

I think Mohammed Salah has become a legend for the Reds and even though his teammates like Mane and Firminho have left before him, he still stays at Liverpool to continue the tradition. Even Jurgen Kloop will be very disadvantaged if he loses Mohammed Salah and he still needs time to find a successor to Mohammed Salah at Liverpool. An achievement we rarely see and huge appreciation for Mohammed Salah for reaching this level.
It's true that M. Salah was dumped and loaned by Chelsea to several clubs in Serie A, such as Fiorentina and Roma, and Roma then bought him. After that he came to Liverpool until now since 2017.

And now Chelsea is doing the same thing with one of the players they have. The player who had the same fate as M. Salah was R. Lukaku. Lukaku was also thrown away, treated the same as M. Salah. For the past 2 seasons, Lukaku has been on loan to two Serie A clubs. Last season Lukaku was loaned to Inter Milan and achieved good results there. Now Lukaku is on loan at Roma and now Lukaku is also one of the top scorers at the Roma club. And is currently the 3rd top scorer in Serie A.

And the funny thing is that Lukaku also has the potential to be bought in the transfer market next season by Roma and it is possible that one day Lukaku will return to the EPL and become a legend at one of the EPL clubs. If that happens then once again Chelsea have wasted a player. Wink

Lukaku is soon turning 31 and I doubt that there is still enough time left to become a legend at any of the Premier League clubs. Seriously, what should Lukaku do to become a legend at any of the clubs? I think he would be better off if he stayed in Italy and tried his luck to become a legend there. It is not the best season for Roma now, but perhaps he can contribute to win a title with them.

Regarding Salah, that was a big mistake by Chelsea but with all due respect, I can't remember when Chelsea made a great transfer decision the last time... Cheesy They are not known for having the Midas touch when they decide to buy or sell players. i think they could invest 2 billion euros and still fail.
331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 01, 2024, 07:38:46 PM
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I don't think it would be an easy match for Liverpool today. Newcastle is currently is not in the best shape but I think that they have what it takes to beat Liverpool, they are having some crisis but still have the players to upset Liverpool.
I earlier thought that Liverpool would win but checking out line ups right now I think the game would be a draw at the end of the day.

Not going to be an easy game at all for Liverpool and I think there were several games now that have shown that there are no easy games ever in the Premier League. Even when a top team plays against one that is seemingly inferior because of their rank in the table, some unexpected results came about and Newcastle is still a team that was qualified for the Champions League for some good reasons. Nevertheless, I think today is not the time for them to beat Liverpool at Anfield Road.
332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 01, 2024, 06:57:42 PM
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I would guess that they would probably not manage to achieve it, a lot of teams try to get out of relegation zone, but the thing about relegation is that some teams have to go down, there isn't really an option that they could stay, they just have to go down and that's what they do. If that is a mathematical must, if some teams have to go down then I do not see why not them.

They look like one of the worst teams in the league and if they do manage to go down then it would make sense. I am not really sad or upset about that one, but Empoli and Cagliari are very long standing teams who has done great in history and they haven't been that great recently and looking like going down again, which is quite said when you see that, I have to say it is not really that nice of a feeling.

There are 20 games to go from now and it is only 5 points between Udinese as 15th and Salernitana as 20th. That leaves Salernitana with three spots to realistically go for to avoid relegation at the end of the season. That doesn't sound to me as if that was a mission impossible. The win has shown that they are still alive and kicking. If they can beat Verona, nothing speaks against beating any of the other four teams that are in the relegation area. Frosinone hasn't won any of their last five games and is crashing at the moment.
333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 01, 2024, 01:19:17 PM
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Whether we realize it or not, Madrid is actually on the verge of instability after several important players were injured, but this can still be covered because Madrid has high-level players. Luckily several players were absent right after the UCL break. So he has time to improve, while in La Liga his current position is still safe because his rivals are not in a threatening condition due to being busy dealing with increasingly deteriorating finances. However, instead another competitor comes from Girona, who is still in 2nd place in the standings with a point difference that is not too far away. Another conclusion is that Madrid was saved right when the transfer window opened and they have everything to immediately upgrade the depth of the squad.

Real Madrid has not lost a single game of the last 17 games they played. They have the best defense in La Liga and they are the only team with Manchester City to finish the Champions League group with the full 18 points out of 6 games. I understand that they are suffering from injuries, but this isn't the first time Vinicius Junior is injured this season. They had to replace him for quite a while already and yet were able to play successfully.

There is still some time left for their players to recover and I don't see them being on the verge of instability. They have done it well until now and of course there is a limit for every club to handle injuries. But for now they are good.
334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 31, 2023, 10:59:03 PM

I'm not sure yet but I think the case between Mbappe and Real Madrid is already closed and there is definitely no chance for this French player to play for Real Madrid any time soon with the current news we see from Real Madrid. Mbappe wanted to join Real Madrid many other times and he was about to leave PSG, but he changed his mind at the last moment for some reason and this made Real Madrid mad enough not to even think about this player.


Most of the sources state otherwise and if you have read about this case to be closed, where did you find that now? The only thing I found is that Real Madrid is trying to raise the pressure and give him a deadline, which is supposed to require him to make a final decision early this year and if he doesn't, they would refrain from signing him. But I don't believe it. If he says nothing for the moment and then says yes in June or so, Real Madrid would immediately sign him.
335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 31, 2023, 10:54:18 PM
Yes this is great news as it would be a big loss if he left the football stages once and for all one day. I think it would have been interesting to see him take responsibility of the national team of Brazil, but now that he decided to stay with Real Madrid I think it is more beneficial. He also can't let go as it seems. If you have the best job in the world in football and then you become older, I think it is also hard to let go.
Real Madrid management gave the fans the best Christmas gift by extending extending the contract of Carlo Ancelotti at the club to the summer of 2026. The Italian manager have been very instrumental to the club's success in recent years as he has used his managerial experience to bring solutions to some of the tactical issues at the club.
After Karim Benzema left the club last summer, the club was without a recognized striker and that raised concerns about Carlo Ancelotti's ability to manage a Madrid team without a striker but he's been able to efficiently manage the team by converting Jude Bellingham who was known as a central midfielder at Borussia Dortmund to become a false 9 and that decision has worked well for the club

But Jude Bellingham was more like a Christmas present that nobody saw coming. I am really sure that nobody at Real Madrid had an idea that they just bought a player who could fill so many gaps at the same time and take on so many important roles for the team. Yes maybe they thought that Bellingham is multifaceted and that he can play in the defense and the offense and help the team to find the right balance, but scoring so many goals was beyond their imagination.
336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 31, 2023, 09:31:37 PM
These days, I don't comprehend how Arsenal is playing.
Another defeats again, not expected for them to lose in a row, not good for the reputation of Arsenal because they're top in the race to battle Liverpool but now looking at them, It doesn't pose any threat at the moment. Arsenal performance is gradually declining and that's no good reputation to set currently. I can't comprehend the entire performance of the club because they're not straight, they keep dissapointing everyone at die minutes, the fans are laying their complaints and not contended with the present team's performance.

This defeat was a big surprise. Since they were not able to win a couple of the last gew games, I thought that they will be warned enough to play below their best level a and still hope to win the game. Fulham kept believing in themselves until the end of the game and had their strong moments during the game again and again. It's a problem for Arsenal to have the ball most of the time and also create most of the chances, but suffer from their opponents to have a better timing scoring goals.
337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 31, 2023, 08:09:57 PM
As I have always said, Serie A is a super defensive league and not many goals happen here and when it's between two big teams and no one is clearly dominating, the score remains very low on goals. But I have the same thoughts as you. Mourinho's management actually did surprise me. He is basically known for his park the bus mentality but yesterday he had 58% possession.

But possession does not matter when you can't create chances, get shots on target, and all that. Juventus had more shots, shots on target despite having less possession. Either way, they have won the match and got the 3 points so it does not really matter how they got them. Roma's defeat put them on the back foot in the top 4 race. On the other hand, Juventus got closer to Inter Milan after beating Roma as Inter Milan drew against Genoa last night.
Comparison with Premier League and La Liga I think Serie A become most defensive team and not playing offensive on every match, Juventus on 2nd position awhile just scored 27 goals and drastically difference with La Liga and Premier League 2nd standings teams success scored above 43 goals. Almost Serie A teams have poor ration winning goals on every match exactly Jose Mourinho know his tactic as park bus on every match and he just prefer with counter attack only.

Juventus if get possibility for winning Serie A in this season will be team lack goal productivities because they have winning 1 goal ration exactly last match won against AS Roma with 1-0.

As far as I know the numbers have been quite a bit misleading in recent years when everybody thought that the Premier League must have been the league with the highest average number of goals scored per game, but I believe it was the Serie A that had the highest average.

However, looking at the tables from both leagues now it has changed I think for this season. The Premier League clubs at the top of the table score and concede more I think. The top ranked teams in Serie A actually don't have a very high number of goals per game. Inter Milan pushes that number down because they have such a good defense. They are scoring enough goals, but hardly concede any goals so that also pushes down that number.
338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 30, 2023, 10:58:25 PM
Juventus winning Roma to me isn't so much of a surprise because I have always anticipated the fact they Roma's inconsistency definitely doesn't guarantee them the ability to play and win Juventus just like that because Juventus isn't a weak or average team that would be considered an easy work over just like that but one which they will really have to work hard to beat.

Roma for me this season has just been within the average range so I don't rate them so high with the expectations of even winning big teams such as Juventus who is not playing in other leagues except for the serie a alone this season so I wasn't expecting any less for a team that have all their focus on achieving a particular trophy alone and they Also have a good form aswell which means they are not weak at all. Roma has been considerably good with their performance this season but in games like this even if they managed to defend well enough they the winning margin was small, thsy still don't look stable enough to win big good teams.

Juventus is really going back to their good old days when they were a brutal team in the defense and highly efficient in striking goals. This one goal when Juventus Turin scored it, I felt that this will be enough to win the game and that Juventus would not really try to go for another goal, but instead focus on keeping the narrow margin and instead make sure they won't concede a goal. It is kind of the same strategy that Roma would have pursued if they scored first. It's a fight between two teams that are both waiting for the first goal and then just focus on the defense. This time Juventus scored first and sent Mourinho home without any points. All the top teams won their games and Roma fell behind.
339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 30, 2023, 10:50:29 PM
That is one way to look at things, but they were still up against Manchester City last season. They aren't playing bad, but obviously that is not enough to win the EPL trophy. You need a close to perfect season to win it and the one team that was mostly capable of playing a perfect season was Manchester City. It's hard to beat them. And now Manchester City has their own issues and see there are immediately several teams going for them and their top position. But the season is still long and a lot of things can happen.
A perfect season is just what every club is craving for and only few will achieve this target in matches. A very difficult duty to win Manchester City in EPL matches, they're the top club and they barely win any match. Manchester City have dominated over the past seasons and this one is certainly not an exception for these clubs to build strong form to boost their performance. Manchester City not in good shape at the moment, but they can be able to standout to their opponents and fight for their spot in the EPL. They're champ and they ought to behave like one.

That's why it is important to not go too far when we talk about perfect seasons. If we stick to the word and its literal meaning, we would expect a team to win 38 games in the Premier League and then concede zero goals, but that is not realistic as I am sure everybody here agrees. In my opinion a perfect season can still be a season where a team loses a game or maybe two, but then it is all about getting back on track and not get caught in a downtrend and lose the title like Arsenal did last season. It should be a dominant season, but thinking that a perfect season is only perfect if there are no draws and losses is too much.
340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 30, 2023, 10:45:25 PM
This is good news, Ancelotti is a coach who is extraordinarily competent to train a team like Madrid (He was successful in making Benzema and Vini Junior what they are today) he has a good strategy and also knows how to place players in their positions and the most important thing is that he is very appreciated and respected by the Madrid squad, this is very important because a coach who is hated will only damage the squad's performance.
Even though currently Madrid is at the top of the standings again, they seemed to be struggling against Alaves, even Madrid scored one goal in the 92nd minute. Girona also still has great potential to reclaim the top position, they have never lost so far.

Yes this is great news as it would be a big loss if he left the football stages once and for all one day. I think it would have been interesting to see him take responsibility of the national team of Brazil, but now that he decided to stay with Real Madrid I think it is more beneficial. He also can't let go as it seems. If you have the best job in the world in football and then you become older, I think it is also hard to let go.
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