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321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 08, 2017, 01:09:22 PM
Because gambling provides a dream to make money easily and very quickly. Some of them maybe successful, but certainly most are money and time wasters. And because it's done continuously, in his mind to make money only from gambling and gambling. That's what causes make peoples get gambling addiction.
That is a wrong thinking, gambling does not provide easy money if you do not have the skills, you need to be smart and be talented to be consistent in the long run in order to make gambling as a source of income. It's addicting for some because we keep trying and trying and we make a lot of strategy to win but it's still not enough to make us profitable, the end is result is always not in our favor as we might be bankrupt which is worse if we don't stop on time.
You just need a bravery and you are good to go to gamble , nothing else.
I just feel it is completely bullshit when people talking about skills could earn you easy money and a nice winning .
Luck is everything in gambling , just give it a try to gamble continuously everyday with your skills , still it will only gives you a loss.

If you have a clear cut plan i don't think it will be so addicting because you know what you want and  what you don't want in the first place and you can easily stop or start depending on your intended target.
Lol having a target , limitation on how much you should stop in case you lost/win won't work.
Gambling since first day its found is addictive , those people who come to gamble have to accept the risk to become an addict later.
To expect to get an instant cash especially when you are in urgently needed make people think gambling is completely addictive.
322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 08, 2017, 12:55:50 PM
Try to find things which is much more important than gambling. Its very hard to stop if you really prioritize gamble. Try to slowly erase it and fill it with your new discovered things and make it your hobby. Be persistent and patience, as time goes by, you will be slowly not craving for it and will be much more into your new hobby. I hope that the one you choose to replace the gambling should produce good result and not harm your self so that you can have a much more better life.

It is even hard to find something that you like and change it with gambling. If we keep gambling that means we like to gamble that is why it will be hard for us to get out of this. If we cant get out of it then dont strain at all but better to take it slowly like me. I dont really play alot anymore but I am still playing although with only small amount for fun
It is a mental problem for sure , you need help from an expert in that field, that is my opinion.
As no matter how many times you try to avoid and looking for a distraction , an addiction is a real big problem that you cannot handle it by yourself.
Go to an expert if you feel keep repeating the same mistake to get back to gamble again and again.
I decided to stop and enjoy my remaining profit.
That would be the best possible solution that ease my addiction on gambling that time since no matter how we chase back our winnings it might not worked as plan.  This method of realization save me from losing all my profits in gambling. I won during my first month of playing gambling then after that, I started losing weekly until I lost almost half my profit then

In most case even though you have successfully cashed out your winning and completely enjoy it  , there is a time for you to remember how good that winning and want to do the same thing.
Few people who can ignore that feeling , but as a human that's normal to think like that and being greedy.
Just the matter how you can hold yourself and be grateful to avoid you get back after successfully quit.
323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 08, 2017, 12:11:56 PM
Gambling and investing are both risky but if I am going to compare which is better, investing is my choice. There's only a small chance that you will win in gambling and it will suck your money very fast if you get an addiction unlike investment that is slow but you have assurance that your money grows.
Investing has been proven to be more profitable than gambling, in fact some investors are running a casino and they are profitable because most of the gamblers are losers, the gambling industry is very profitable therefore we need to think twice before thinking we can make easy money and destroy their business. Most of the time as a gambler we loses and that should be warning to us to minimize our spending and forget about making money since that is hard to achieve.
For the long term investment is of course far better than when you have to gamble.
You can expect a good gain when it comes to investment in the future but not with gambling that only gives you a temporary nice amount of profit.
Gambling also has too much risk besides could make you become an addict and broke , gambling has been recognized as a pure bad activity in some places.
324  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how control my emotion?? on: November 08, 2017, 12:01:02 PM
It won't be easy to control my emotions but I have to control it. I will be patient and believe that the price might pick up again. Instead of worrying about the lose I will think how to gain profit. This is a simple way to control my emotion.
Exactly controlling emotions are very important in every sort of business and trading. Business and trading can be done only with big heart and patience. Patience helps in growing bigger and earning more money. Do not think of loss, focus on you investment and continue your hard work because your hard work and patience will bring you success ultimately. Believe in your efforts.
Be patient , keep training on it. Be wise keep learning on what you have done.
That is always be my principle on how i do control my emotion especially when you are in big disappointing moment.
Take a break for a while , cooling down until you have got a fresh air and then continue with a positive energy.
325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet? on: November 08, 2017, 11:52:22 AM
For sports betting you can rely on a lot pof research of previous games and the statistics and teams and the news and then make an informed decision. You must also have a fixed plan with which you can bet and a definite bankroll.
That is being knowledgeable in order to find the a good value in the line, a trick is something that you can do it easily and it can give you a win, analyzing the statistics and the record requires time and effort and if you are good in analyzing maybe you can win in the long run but it will never guarantee an easy win.
That is sounds like a general analysis instead considered as a trick for me.
A trick in sportsbetting that i can suggest so far is by making several sportsbet accounts and look at each moneylines.
With that way you could always win by arbitrage , take a little gap of the moneylines as your profit and enjoy your guaranteed win!
326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: November 08, 2017, 11:39:53 AM
People who gamble will never accept loses , they only want to win right? .
And that is a wrong thought really , the thought like that come from your greedy indeed .
No wonder there's a lot of people keep playing even though you have achieved more loses. It is not normal in general but really normal in gambling.

Not everyone is like that because I can convince you that I am different. The people that only play for fun like me doesnt really care if we win or lose because the main point is not about winning and getting alot of money but to be having fun. If you are not playing for fun then you are not really going to understand what it means to play for fun
I believe people actually always want to having fun in gambling but they cannot do that .
The desire to want get extra money while playing always lured them to ignote the fun factor there.
I do admit come to casino with a purpose to get a different way of entertainment but as time goes by it turned into always about money and don't want to get a single lost.
327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 08, 2017, 11:16:23 AM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin
I think 70% for loss and 30% for profit, than to follow gambling better you invest it in my opinion unless you are good at gambling.
The only thing wrong about gambling is when you keep on losing and still keep on playing and losing your money but as long as you are winning, there is nothing wrong with it.
Still in the end gambling always make things turn wrong no matter you win it or even the worst you get more losses.
Some people think that if you successfully make gambling profitable then it is good but that was not something easily achieved.
I can say it is impossible due its edge in gambling will always make players negative and only casino who get the profit in the long run.
328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 07, 2017, 11:56:16 PM
Just set limits you should follow and don't bypass them otherwise you may have serious problems
This is some serious and efficient way for playing. But for gambling even if you limit yourself, still in that limit portion too, you will fall and losses will be in your account. Gambling is not good even if you are doing nothing in casino, it will make you addict when you saw more money coming for one time. So better is, limit yourself from gambling and go for some other sources of income.
There is no way for you to gamble in smart way but to quit gambling right after your winning.
That is what i consider as smart way , because whenever you get a winning you will lost it again sooner or later.
So just think again about how you can be smart if you continuously gamble such as an addict.
You will lose if you don't quit for good, even if you temporarily quit with a profit you will still gonna come back again the next day to play.
That's how we think, we always aim for more and if we have a good winning streak we think we have figured out how to win consistently until we get greedy.
As long as you have a strong will , i don't think you will come back to gamble again.
I mean when you really have cashed out a big amount of money from your previous winning , why you have to risk your money again?
You need to have a self control and a careful decision , that is the key .

Strong will is all it needs sometimes. I started with a strong will to stop as well although I havent completely stop yet but atleast Im doing better job then my previous self. I dont really play for profit anymore but only for fun  It was hard at first but I managed to do it. Im not perfectly done it yet but someday Im sure that staying away from gambling is not really impossible for me
Yeaa to quit from gambling addiction can never be done all at once.
It is always step by step since the desire to get an easy money from gambling always exist in your head.
Do gamble as rare as possible , hold yourself from being greedy and repeat , you might won big unexpectedly without have to get addicted.
329  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: November 07, 2017, 11:45:43 PM
I tried my level best to be successful in trading but some thing is lagging so most of the trading end with disappointment only. I should not blame trading it is purely my mistake only for sure but I am not able to find it once I find it might be I will be more successful in trading and that time might I make good profit.

Hmm, you need to know also that trading requires energy and mind focus 100%. because if you don't focus just a few seeds of sand then the results obtained would be different. Because trading is showing live data and will never be at play in some time. Main weapon is in fact trading analysis and control yourself, if you can do that then it's certainly brings is a great advantage. Because the analysis can give us the possibility the best thing
Always easy to talk theorically , but not practically .
Do this , do that , avoid this and avoid that etc , the real situation always ignore everything that you have learned before.
The plan went messed up and you do disappointed eventually , people mostly struggling to get profit in trading and that is the fact based on the data available everywhere.
Yes a good number of traders struggle to get by, but that says nothing about trading being a wild goose chase. Aside from human emotions like greedy being difficult to handle, there are a thousand and one factors impacting on the market price, making it near impossible to accurately predict the market most of the time. Nevertheless there also abounds traders, who have fully paid their dues and now making loads of money from the market. It's like with every endeavor of life - time, perseverance, consistency, discipline and focus will always make a difference!
Having a good emotion management no matter on a heavy loss or a good profit always be one of important key to make you feel satisfy instead disappointed.
I do believe there's only small number of traders who able to do that properly.
The rest will always ends tragic , trading with a huge capital and get nothing but loss and more losses.
330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 07, 2017, 11:19:08 PM
The hope that I can one day win some huge and maybe possibly the jackpot is the one and only reason why I return to gamble even though I keep losing money and everytime I come back but I have limits on how I do it so that I don't lose more than I can afford.

Let's remove the jackpot thing, everyone is hoping that we can even take some amount of winning back to our pockets so we keep on coming back. And if someone tells us on how lucky they are, we think that we can be like them so flashing back the memories of lost amount is starting to trigger us to come back. That's the possibility why is that everyone is getting back even with worst gambling experiences.
Winning back all the loss is the reason why gamblers keeps on coming back even though we already know that we will never win back all of those money we wasted still we try our luck maybe this is just a human behavior and only few people who can control their selves with this kind of emotion.
Not only about that factor , sometimes you back to gamble because of it is so attractive in term how easy doubling your money.
But then they always losing mind when it comes to getting profit in the first impression.
Forgot that actually there is a big risk waiting for you at the end of the game whether you will win big or lost a lot.
331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: November 07, 2017, 10:21:49 PM
Obviously not. If trading was gambling, then all the wall street offices would shut down after being in loss, because no one will invest money into them if it is considered as trading. There is just risk, which is true for a lot of things in life. Its just not a pure gamble.

I agree with you, maybe gambling and trading has money involve but the result is different. Gambling result in the end is zero, unlike in trading that has sure profit. And if we become addicted in gambling we always want to play even we have no money, we always want to come back for chances of winning or back some lose money. And if we become addicted in trading the result is good, because if we stop from the failures/mistakes we did not reach our aim especially in bitcoin that gives huge profit to the trader.
I don't agree with you about trading is a sure profit , there's a lot of people who suffering huge loss in trading.
And even for some people trading are still not profitable especially when you do it without preparation .
I mean there is a big difference when you trade with a proper analysis and when you trade on picking a buy/sell positiin based on nothing but your feeling in hope to get a luck. That time you do gamble on the market.
Most people lose in trading as well, you must remember that the money you earn from trading must come from somewhere, so if you have great profits then that means that someone is looking at the same screen as you but instead of being happy that person is lamenting the losses he has.
Yeaa that is the law of making money in trading , the concept is a little bit such as gambling.
So not surprising at all when you hear a lot of people babbling about how sometimes trading considered as gambling.
Just sometimes not everytime okay , that is why in trading there is a successful trader make money steady for years but not with gambling.
332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Relationships! on: November 07, 2017, 10:08:35 PM

Why is it strange for you? Friends, couples and even friends like to play together at casinos. I have seen on the movies people going together to Las Vegas casinos to play. It seems very normal for me, it's like people who go to amusement parks, clubs together to have fun.
I agree! Here in my place i always see my grandmother, my uncle, my aunties amd some of our relatives play cards and there's nothing wrong since they just want to have fun and entertain themselves. Although they we're not playing in casinos it's still gambling and i believe that it's much better cause they won't loose a big sum of money.
Still when you wager money there on any kind games it could make the atmosphere a little bit scary.
Make relationship between your family get broken due one of you cannot accept the losses , it cannot be avoided.
Gambling is addictive no matter you are in casino or not , everything will remain the same , really vulnerable.
333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: November 07, 2017, 09:53:11 PM
Slot games for me are rigged too much. I read somewhere that the casino edge there is 5 - 20% I think. I think that's true because the chances of you winning there are slim. It's okay to experience but for the long run, the edge would just eat your profits there. That's just my experience and opinion.
That is correct and that is why casinos loves slots, just think about it every time you play at the slots you are losing 20% of your money so if you bet 5 dollars you are only going to get 4 on average that is a terrible bet and that is why I prefer to play games like blackjack.
No they are not loves slot especially when they have to pay out a huge rewards of the jackpot.
There is a lot of case where a casino did not process the withdrawal and even accusing the player is cheating etc in their slot game.
I personally only interested in slot becaus3 of that huge rewards , cannot really having fun there .
334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 06, 2017, 10:42:11 AM
When do you stop? Do you have a daily limit or something?

Limitations to cash out money to play on gambling. When to stop, is do not move when you are not get on plan have a strategy to get win or loss the money from the daily needs of financial. Because something went wrong before you got worried.

Imo this is best way to stop gambling, as long as you are strong and won't deposit more money after you lost some. It's also good to not withdraw all the money that you won, instead you can keep some in that site if it allows it for next time.
Doesn't work for sure , limitation can be successfully only in short period.
When you do it repeatedly in the long run you will have more desire to to play again and again.
In the end you feel can never stop to play and ended up terribly .
335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 06, 2017, 10:26:38 AM
Because gambling provides a dream to make money easily and very quickly. Some of them maybe successful, but certainly most are money and time wasters. And because it's done continuously, in his mind to make money only from gambling and gambling. That's what causes make peoples get gambling addiction.
That is a wrong thinking, gambling does not provide easy money if you do not have the skills, you need to be smart and be talented to be consistent in the long run in order to make gambling as a source of income. It's addicting for some because we keep trying and trying and we make a lot of strategy to win but it's still not enough to make us profitable, the end is result is always not in our favor as we might be bankrupt which is worse if we don't stop on time.
You just need a bravery and you are good to go to gamble , nothing else.
I just feel it is completely bullshit when people talking about skills could earn you easy money and a nice winning .
Luck is everything in gambling , just give it a try to gamble continuously everyday with your skills , still it will only gives you a loss.
336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you would win a Jackpot what would you do with the money? on: November 06, 2017, 10:08:37 AM
if i win in a jackpot price in a casino nothing else to is spend the money that you won you can buy a new car buy new house gadget everything you want to buy you can buy.and one I like.is to help other people or poor people give them a food etc.that is the best way to spend money.
Yeaa it is better to spend it all rather than you see the money available and then you get back to gamble.
I am sure when you hold it longer you will lost it all in no time , as you earn that easily you might lost it in the same way.
Regret always come in last , so prevent it by collect your winning for satisfaction.
337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you play solo poker online ? on: November 06, 2017, 07:12:06 AM
Some gambling sites provide solo poker games, like BlackJack, 3 Card Poker even TX hold'em.
Would you spend your time on them?
Do you only play with other players?
Or you just don't play poker online?
The solo poker games or the video poker thing is complete shit IMO. It's very boring and takes out the skill from the poker. I have played some poker with other players online, but there are very few places where you can find these lobbies and on top of that the players are also very less.
If you get used to play poker face to face with other player then no wonder you feel boring.
But if you looking for a temporary entertainment i think it is worth to play those kind games.
Indeed i am also not really love to play it , but sometimes feel better to try every single game available.
338  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Turning crypto into fiat or is that even nessesary anymore! on: November 03, 2017, 05:30:49 AM
exchange cryptocurrency into fiat is no needed if your country legalized cryptocurrency already. But in countries that cryptocurrency is not legalized yet, people still have to exchange it into fiat and it's the only way to use in here. Beside there are few countries banned cryptocurrency that mean nobody can be able to use currency or even exchange it into fiat Smiley)
The point is on how we can live with bitcoin or not and the answer nowadays you cannot do that.
You need fiat in order to buy stuff and your daily needs , we are having big problem on adoption growth .
Once there is a lot of store accept bitcoin to fulfill our daily needs, i will never exchange my bitcoin and just keep and spend it.

I agree with that.  Some stores are already accepting bitcoin and I believe that there will be more in the future since many people is starting to recognize bitcoin now.  The popularity of bitcoin is increasing due to high demand and this results for bitcoin to look even more good for investments.

Still,  we are  talking about converting crypto into  fiat.  It is necessary because we only used bitcoin in online payments.  Fiats is what we used for regular payments.
Yeaa we need something that makes the merchants interested to adopt bitcoin as their payment processor.
Not just only lured by the high price that makes investor attracted , we need more merchants for sure to realized the peer to peer electronic cash system.
I will gladly to welcome the digital era anytime .
339  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: November 03, 2017, 05:13:31 AM
According to theory, we should sell with 10% or 20%. But, actually, I usually sell when it increases about 5%. My strategy is selling when it rises. I will trade with a small profit, but it is safe.
basically i have my own rule that sell whenever the price is high from the price on which you have bought but now a days i have stop selling and i have starting buying because the rate of bitcoin is increasing very quickly and i am sure that i will cross 10k$ very soon after that i will plan for selling.
Yeaa set your target , when you have reached it then set a new target and so on.
Just to make you feel safe,  do it repeatedly instead to keep it all the time if you want.
But to be honest bitcoin for me will always worth when you do hold in the very long time or even if you could just hold it forever and don't sell it until you think need that money in emergency situation.
340  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the risk of holding Bitcoin? on: November 03, 2017, 04:39:30 AM
More risk in holding Bitcoins would lead to loss unless and until you wallet is set secured. The wallets we have should be secured, so that its protected from hacking. Keep shifting your bitcoins from one wallet to others.
I must say that the biggest risk a user can faced when holding bitcoin is the risk of losing some portion of it along the way or worst to lose all of them in just one blink. That is the risk of bitcoin as a digital currency. Yes it has many opportunities and possibilities but you have to be careful with your decision because it might get lost.
With the recent price around $7,200 i think just impossible for anyone to get lost all the coin held in "just one blink" .
Holding bitcoin much more safe than hold altcoin and it is vetter investment than any other digital asset.
Thonk about it now and make your decision to add more investment in bitcoin .
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