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321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 29, 2017, 01:12:21 PM
Hello Tonbi,

I'm sorry but I feel my questions were not answered, I'll try to be more clear with less questions:

1. How many NVOS will be generated? Is it a fixed number per NVOT? If not, on what their number depends?
2. What does it mean to say that NVOS=0.99USD? Where and how will NVOS be converted to dollars?

thx


Hello, and thank you for your interest :

1- The amount of NVOS will be proportional to the amount of fees collected by the Validator.
2- It won't be converted to dollars, NVOS will be exchangeable for Bitcoins, the 0.99$ will be the equivalent value of NVOS in usd.

The NVOS supply will be managed in order to stabilize the price. The buyer will be the NVO Team (in early stages), later it will be automated, it would be possible to use a smart contract in this case as counterparty is working on that.
322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 28, 2017, 10:20:42 PM
Any social media bounty campaign?

As far as I know, there is no social media campaign for NVO as of now. Just wait for further announcement if ever they will launch social media campaigns.

Regarding promotion campaigns, they will be all setup on the go, rest assured.

I would like to answer to people who is looking for investment bonus.
This project isn't a token sale project, it is a fair crowdsale, some investors sent less then a dollar, and others up to 16k usd, and even more.

let me tell you why am i pleased to see this diversification, because the investors are going to be users. NVO won't serve only large volume orders, it will be used by several users from small to large traders. It could be used by someone who needs to quickly and securely exchange small amounts from a crypto to another. It could also be used by service providers to exchange their Altcoins for Bitcoin in a secure way.

NVO wants to be fair with the whole crypto community, either Altcoins or Bitcoin.

The large investors who are looking for early bonus have to understand that the strengh of a currency comes from it's community, NVO isn't here to create social divisions, NVO is here to serve everyone from smallest to largest. Do not forget that 90% of the community tested at least once a faucet to understand bitcoin by micro payments.
323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 28, 2017, 05:18:19 PM
User ID: 91288499 I sent my Ripple and balance is still ZERO. Sent emails to developers....zero response!  Huh

Hello, sorry for the delayed response, generally everyone is addressed within 24 hours.

The dashboard isn't used to confirm your deposit or anything like that,once you have invested, the funds are held into that address under the controle of an escrow.

XRP
172.51

As soon as the balance system is ready, everyone will be able to check his balance from the dashboard. Sorry for the inconvenience.

User ID: 91288499 I sent my Ripple and balance is still ZERO. Sent emails to developers....zero response!  Huh

they already said that they are working on updating the api for real time update of balance.

in the meantime save the transaction id for quick check in case it will be needed in future

Thank you for your reply, and your help.
324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 28, 2017, 03:06:28 PM
Update :

- Bitcoin =>        25.56836976 BTC
- Maid =>           84755 MAID
- Litecoin =>       131.16256 LTC
- Ethereum =>     286.6745875123 Ether
- Ripple =>          Comming soon


Added Ethereum.
325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 28, 2017, 12:32:14 PM
Hello guys
it is nice to have opened the crowdsale!
I have noticed that you dont have https  secure protocol over the login and registration that might be a risk for some people
Please change the links under the button the "crowdsale has started" button!

i could use the ssl you have installed in your server by writing down instead of http://nvo.io/login.php  -> https://nvo.io/login.php and the ssl was there!

Thank you for pointing to that, it should have used HTTPS because of a rewrite rule, but it is fixed now, thanks again.

Thanks for the tutorial guys!

Thanks to Lauda.


Where is bitcoin displayed?  What address?  How much raised?

You can follow the escrow address posted by Lauda.
If you want a small check up, here are the available informations :

- Bitcoin =>     24.93263586 BTC
- Maid =>           84755 MAID
- Litecoin =>       121.16256 LTC
- Ethereum =>     Comming soon
- Ripple =>          Comming soon

The informations should be available by tomorrow, or tonight, it depends of several factors. At the same time, the balances on the dashboard will be shown and updated.

Thanks for your patience.

And i would like to thank the investors and the supporters for trusting NVO. The work environment is super thanks to you, we are very happy to share it with you.
326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 11:12:48 PM
What is the BTC and ETH deposit addresses?... so we can track progress of crowd sale.

The tracking will be enabled soon, except for bitcoin, it is already displayed, and it show only the amount confirmed. All these informations will change over time, and will be more detailed.
327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 09:51:12 PM
This is the first crowdsale or ICO i've taken part in and I couldn't be more excited about it. I did have to create a counterwallet and transfer my funds that way but overall everything was smooth and easy. I was very impressed with the product/service and presentation. Good luck

Thank you for your awesome feedback, and thank's for joining to adventure, if you have any issue, feel free to ask.


From the difference that's been stated in comparison to the traditional exchanges it's much more perfect and step ahead than the exchanges that we are using. It has got the competitive fee, but in terms of privacy and security far better than the traditional exchanges. Hope this will give hard competence to the top exchanges in a short.


You are right, the main problem is that centralized exchanges have a lot more visibility compared to decentralized exchanges. So the marketing will be of Word of mouth type and a minimum of visibility on clearnet especially to bring new users to the exchange.

For the rest, i think that the advanced features and plugin system will draw a lot of users there.


I have my own QT wallet.
My apologies, but how to create my own BTC address in the wallet (to use for the dashboard in NVO)?
Do I create a BTC address in the Send tab or in the Receive tab - of the BTC QT wallet?
I know how to do it - just need to be sure which tab to use, as I don't use BTC much.
File -> Receiving addresses -> New (label is optional, but I suggest marking it as NVO because you need to know where your counterparty tokens are).




Don't forget to backup your wallet.dat. It is best to join the Slack team if you need direct assistance.

I was looking for these answer. Good thing i read instead of posting the same question. I am still lurking around the project and reading the white paper. It was less reading aftaer i read this. Thanks.

I thank Lauda for this awesome work, i hope that it will help a lot of users.


this exchange cant launch before MAID is produtive. Am i right?

Maid is in Alpha 2, it won't be long untill the beta release with mainnet.
During the development, the validator will be hosted on an API cluster, another version will be used on safe Network TestNet.


I donated some coinage for the ICO. I will support any DEX project!

I like your design on paper, because it is original and unlike other DEX designs. I also like that you already have a demo. Good luck with implementation and the rest of the ICO!!

I will add your project to the DEx thread when I get time. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1338970

Feel free to post there to introduce yourself and explain your project a little. That is a good place to connect with people interested in DEXs. 😁

Thank you for your support, feel free to ask any question regarding the project, we will gladly answer.


The investment model is similar to that of the PDC. Similar sales are for all tokens based on MAID blockchain.

Could you develop please ? maid isn't a blockchain, it is an omni asset, like tether.


so no max cap and no early bird bonis?

Yes, no max cap, no early bonus, no bounty paid using tokens, the believes it is a fair regarding investors. and i agree with them.


328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 02:25:43 PM
I tried to create an account however, when I tried to login, I got this error:

Notice: Undefined index: g-recaptcha-response in /home/nvoitdtk/public_html/libs/Llogin.php on line 9

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/nvoitdtk/public_html/libs/Llogin.php:9) in /home/nvoitdtk/public_html/libs/Llogin.php on line 106

anyone can help?


Have you confirmed the captcha ?

Sorry nemgun. The captcha is not reloading on my end and I inadvertently click login button. Too excited to see.  Grin

Ok, so i am happy to hear it is fine.
329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 02:19:57 PM
I tried to create an account however, when I tried to login, I got this error:

Notice: Undefined index: g-recaptcha-response in /home/nvoitdtk/public_html/libs/Llogin.php on line 9

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/nvoitdtk/public_html/libs/Llogin.php:9) in /home/nvoitdtk/public_html/libs/Llogin.php on line 106

anyone can help?


Have you confirmed the captcha ?

EDIT: You are welcome.
330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 01:08:03 PM
no homepage Huh Huh
The website can be found here: https://nvo.io/. If you can't see it for whatever reason, then the issue is as your end. Try using "CTRL + F5" or flushing your DNS.

its fine i can see it thanks! any early bonuses? this project will be amazing btw

"50% of all fees per trade on the exchange will be automatically distributed to addresses with NVOT
on a weekly basis in the form of NVOS when the exchange is production ready. NVOS will have a
fixed price of $0.99 and can be traded for Bitcoin automatically using Counterparty exchange or
through the validator without fees. NVOT price will not be fixed and will be decided by the market."


NVO wants to be fair with all the investors, this is why the bounties are paid in bitcoin, not in NVO Token, and this is why there is no "early bonus", everyone if free to participate, with the amount he wishes to invest, without any difference between an investor and another.


Hi, I have contributed by sending XRP, but I do not see the amount of sent XRP to my account page although my transaction was confirmed (of course I have done the correct operations with BTC paper wallet)

https://bithomp.com/explorer/rHyZ3Hdje9tzoBwgxp1W5nr4qt1KhiHcpQ


I have some 1000 more XRP and 3.5 eth  to put in the balance, I want to have a proof of stake for my XRP wallet (should display some before I decide wether or not to invest them (my xrp wallet should display some 153 xrp for now, but it does not.

Thanks for comment.

Updates will come soon, stay tuned.

I definitely hope so...

Do you have an agenda for updates ??


There will be updates everyday, even if not really important updates, but rest assured that at least 1 currency will be updated today.

Let me tell you what is happening at the time of posting :

- Ton (the ceo) is sleeping right now, he worked for hours and is tired.
- Yani (lead dev) talking with investors, guiding them, because ton is sleeping for now.
- Nemgun (friend and support) working on the nodes and answers on bitcointalk.

Don't worry for the updates, they will come, and your investment is safe.


does it have the potential to replace exchanges like polo and bittrex?
We can't say still that it may have, but it has a potential, but what I am looking for is their Bitcoim wallet where you can have a full control of your currency assets, even in the exchange, you can have full control. The wallet may be still under development, but I know many users are looking forward to it too.
Think outside of the box and make a small comparison:

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Traditional exchanges
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NVO
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Centralized
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Decentralized
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Competitive fees
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Competitive fees
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Exit Scam/hack Risk
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No risk of exit scam/hack.
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Private keys owned by the exchange.
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Private keys owned by individuals.
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Privacy loss due to registration and verification tiers.
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No privacy loss.
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Someone could probably come up with a better and more detailed comparison if they spent more time. This makes it perfectly clear why such a project has extreme potential.

Just some thoughts from me, may be self-evident but perhaps worth stating anyway:

- centralised exchanges typically owned by some single entity (e.g. a company);  decentralised exchange arguably able over time (more and more, or at least somewhat) to be 'owned' / steered / influenced by those people who use it, who add liquidity to it, who contribute to the sourcecode, who lead the community.  In other words, avoid the downside of 'shared fate' if single owner does something you don't like one day

- centralised exchanges possibly can be audited/tracked by governments, tax authorities;  decentralised exchange can use privacy/encryption/other means to keep our transactions away from 'unwanted eyes' of the tax man, the police man, etc when they decide to go silly on us sometimes

- question of scale:  peer-2-peer nature of decentralised exchange means capacity probably linearly scales as more nodes add themself to the network;  centralised exchanges typically rely on single owner knowing how to build a scalable website that can service the users - ask Poloniex how this feels!

- centralised exchange is like Amazon/Facebook/Google website; decentralised exchange is like bittorrent.  Arguably: no central decision point, no central server, no central owner to monetise the users' patronage of their service, decide on what content is allowed, exploit your viewing habits, sell your browser history, track your usage for surge pricing model.  In other words, exploit you for their gain

- decentralised exchange is like Linux;  centralised exchange is like Windows.  Open source, crowd sourced means you harness a wide user base who can (potentially) steer, improve and take ownership of the project over time to increase its usefulness, like Linux.org.  Try telling Microsoft how to steer/improve Windows codebase over time.

- decentralised exchange depends on users trading with each other, users decide what is traded, what is bid, what is offered, users generate the price discovery and market depth as it suits us;  centralised exchange relies on single owner entity acting as market maker, providing liquidity, clearing trades, conducting the market, deciding what to offer, policing rogue traders/HFT's

- centralised exchanges often give preferential treatment (discounts, trading costs, IPO's) to large clients ("whales");  much less likely under decentralised exchange / open source / P2P model

- centralised exchange assumes it can legally avoid or pass off mistakes to us bag holders (tax payers, bail outs, Bernie Madoff, GFC, 'moral hazard', FDIC);  decentralised exchange less likely to require 'bail in' from the user base

.


I love how you reordered the past threads, i will definitly follow your next post. especially for linux/windows comparaison, i would just add that in MAC when you have a component problem, you can just delet it without harming the core, it is how NVO plugins intend to work.

Thank you.


Twitter, FB bounty?

Sorry, but not for now, there are signature bounty.


I think the team should have handled the ICO launch far better than this, I have invested into alot of project by just going to the website, opening account and sent fund directly to the assigned address. I will sit on the fence until the end

I don't think you should compare NVO ICO's launched to others ICO's. Everything is black and white in the website. And escrows is all fully trusted as well. So I don't know what's holding you back as far is investing is concern.

You are right, it is not to be considered like the usual ICOs, and it is a crowdsale, not ICO, there is a difference between them.


Hello NVO!

Please feel free to Link or RT: https://twitter.com/themoonparadigm/status/868437520601669634

Cool

Thanks a lot, it is nice to get gifts from the bitcointalk community. The project is welcomed, and it is awesome.

All Sorted out the NVO team & Lauda.

Great support with my investment issue.

Thanks guys
 Cheesy

You are welcome.
331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 11:08:04 AM
I found some videos on youtube talking about NVO :

cryptoverse : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOu2AqVsuPQ
global rashid (hindi) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJvzjxnux3k&t=27s

If someone wants an interview, do not hesitate to send PMs.

Thanks for your videos.

332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
Hi, I have contributed by sending XRP, but I do not see the amount of sent XRP to my account page although my transaction was confirmed (of course I have done the correct operations with BTC paper wallet)

https://bithomp.com/explorer/rHyZ3Hdje9tzoBwgxp1W5nr4qt1KhiHcpQ


I have some 1000 more XRP and 3.5 eth  to put in the balance, I want to have a proof of stake for my XRP wallet (should display some before I decide wether or not to invest them (my xrp wallet should display some 153 xrp for now, but it does not.

Thanks for comment.

Updates will come soon, stay tuned.
333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 09:54:57 AM
I think the team should have handled the ICO launch far better than this, I have invested into alot of project by just going to the website, opening account and sent fund directly to the assigned address. I will sit on the fence until the end

Interesting, could you please provide a detailed description ? for now, we are handling investors questions, wories, and issues, but i would like to have more from your feedback, as of now, i can say that since the campaign relaunched, the total invested funds are around 30.000 USD, with the actual bitcoin dump.
The actual system is more adapted to the project then to the usual platforms, because of counterparty, the most important is to secure the investment. I personally prefer to offer a slightly more complicated way to invest, rather then complicate the withdrawals.
Generally there are always pumps after crowdsales, so i presume some investors (traders) will try to benefit from that, you can check this on the coins historical prices, sometimes the value is raised by x10.

Chronobank had a crowdsale of 5 millions $, if you check them on coinmarketcap, you will find their market cap at 11 millions (ticker : TIME), they have been dumped recently. This is the pressure i am talking about, so what ever happens, NVO have to respect and secure the investors as much as possible. That's why it may appear complicated, but we respect the ideas and feedbacks of everyone.

no homepage Huh Huh
If you are brazillian, i think there is a problem from your ISP as it is the only country who can't open NVO.IO.
334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟🌟🌟 Escrows 🌟🌟🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 08:42:31 AM
looks like good project. let see next.

Thank you for your support.


how much time to see the dashboard updated with the payment? for example i sent 1 eth but is still 0

247 confirms on the blockchain

As i said in the preceeding post, the dashboard uses external APIs to get the balance, they are limited. Currently we are working on that, but don't worry, it is just that the API refuses to return the information.
Thank you for your participation.

I would like to invest but I don't own a bitcoin wallet...
I think it would be wise to accept other alts; ltc, eth, dash
You would most likely receive much more funding

I would also suggest a blogging bounty campaign, those reach more users than on bitcointalk sigs will


Good luck on the crowdsale, I will wait for exchanges.


The problem is that if you don't input a bitcoin address you won't be able to receive NVOT as it is a counterparty asset. As soon as you input an address, your altcoin addresses will be revealed.


Why XCP???  Why not ETH?  Is there a reason?  I just don't understand why you'd start on XCP when projects are having problems and leaving XCP.  If you could please explain clearly your reasoning behind issuing tokens on XCP, that would be awesome.  Also, let's say XCP dies or we decide XCP is not a good fit later on, will you be able to migrate to ETH or another blockchain?  Is the benefit of XCP only to get started cheaply with less effort building a BTC dividend paying ETH contract?  XCP is the one huge drawback I see in this project.  While Storj and others are getting off XCP, you are getting on.


Thank you for your comment, first i would like to ask you why do you think XCP is dying ?
Currently XCP is one of the most advanced layers for Bitcoin, it is secured by Bitcoin, their team is implementing smart contracts, and lightning payments.
What ever happens, Bitcoin will always be the top crypto currency, Ethereum is still far behind Bitcoin, this is my point of view as a dev.

I am sure that Storj have good reasons to leave them, but it doesn't means that XCP is worthless.


Is it possible to track how the crowdsale is going? 

Sadlyn ot for now, due to the limitations of the APIs, but they are working on it, and will enable a better balance checking system. which will be used to bring informations about the global invested funds.

Is it not possible to track this via escrow address on blockchain?

Yes you can, because you won't send to NVO, you send to an address controled by the escrows. If the balance doesn't show up, it just means that the API is not providing the information.


hi,

[forgive me if I am meant to have figured this out or derived this by reading the crowdsale materials so far]

I'm only a small fish:  is there a minimum amount of BTC, ETH or other of the acceptable coins I have to send to the relevant address in my account on the logged-in NVO crowdsale website?  In other words, what's the minimum contribution/'investment' amount for me to participate in this crowdsale?  e.g. 1 ETH minimum, 0.01 BTC minimum, etc?

cheers

There is no Minimum, it all depends on you, but as said Lauda, it is better to send like 0.01 BTC as a minimum because it would be too small compared to others, and you won't have much Tokens.


Hi, I have contributed by sending XRP, but I do not see the amount of sent XRP to my account page although my transaction was confirmed (of course I have done the correct operations with BTC paper wallet)

https://bithomp.com/explorer/rHyZ3Hdje9tzoBwgxp1W5nr4qt1KhiHcpQ

please comment

Thank you for your participation, the balance on dashboard is about the displayed address, your investment is under the controle of the escrows, no need to worry about that. Actually the team is setting up some nodes to provide the required informations as the APIs are limited. Sorry for the inconvenient.


Hi, right now I invested in eth on the crowdsale, but I do not see my confirmed eth on my dashboard yet. How many confirmation the dashboard needs before I could see on it?
Thanks

The investment goes to an address controle by an escrow, there is no confirmation limit, the dashboard shows the current balance of each address, it is just limited by the APIs, that's why it is not showing up. The team is working on that.
Thank you for your participation.

I would like to invest but I don't own a bitcoin wallet...
I think it would be wise to accept other alts; ltc, eth, dash
You would most likely receive much more funding

I would also suggest a blogging bounty campaign, those reach more users than on bitcointalk sigs will


Good luck on the crowdsale, I will wait for exchanges.

How can be that a problem? When you can easily get a Bitcoin wallet in a matter of minutes. From Coinbase to Xapo you can choose a wide variety of wallets out there. Also I think that they are accepting other coins, look at the first page of the thread you will see that they are accepting LTC, ETH and Ripple for their Crowdsale Process.

Recently, bitcoin transact through the wallet to another wallet are not been processed in a mintutes of time. It takes a day atleast to completed the transaction with the multiple confirmation in bitcoin. So Eth or litecoin can be used in crowdsale. Nvo announced that they wil raise the funds to design and develop their decentralized exchange in crowdsale. Please refer the news link below.
https://news.bitcoin.com/token-crowdsale-nvo-decentralized-exchange/

Thank you for your support, do not worry about bitcoin investments, you have enough time to do it, and even after crowdsale, the team will allow two to three days untill all the transactions are confirmed to process the bitcoin addresses.


any news from xrp wallets. Note, this was a test drive i have made before investing more.



Do not worry, your investment is in the escrow's hand, and the team is working on the fix.


335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟🌟🌟 Escrows 🌟🌟🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 12:58:56 AM
how much time to see the dashboard updated with the payment? for example i sent 1 eth but is still 0

247 confirms on the blockchain

As i said in the preceeding post, the dashboard uses external APIs to get the balance, they are limited. Currently we are working on that, but don't worry, it is just that the API refuses to return the information.
Thank you for your participation.

I would like to invest but I don't own a bitcoin wallet...
I think it would be wise to accept other alts; ltc, eth, dash
You would most likely receive much more funding

I would also suggest a blogging bounty campaign, those reach more users than on bitcointalk sigs will


Good luck on the crowdsale, I will wait for exchanges.


The problem is that if you don't input a bitcoin address you won't be able to receive NVOT as it is a counterparty asset. As soon as you input an address, your altcoin addresses will be revealed.
336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟🌟🌟 Escrows 🌟🌟🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 12:44:19 AM
Is it possible to track how the crowdsale is going? 

Sadlyn ot for now, due to the limitations of the APIs, but they are working on it, and will enable a better balance checking system. which will be used to bring informations about the global invested funds.
337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟🌟🌟 Escrows 🌟🌟🌟 on: May 27, 2017, 12:18:42 AM
How do I buy into the crowd sale? The button on the website doesn't work.

It is working, but many people still have cached copies of the website. To solve it simply without hassle, reboot your computer, i think it is better then explaining how to clear browser cache, and other dns caches.


Putting a maximum also implies a centralized decision on the value of each token. I find it better that the market decides the price per token, especially in a project focused on decentralization.

Because it is not really necessary as the investors will decide of the price of NVOT.

What I understand is,
(1)  Unlimited market capital collected through crowd sale results into higher face valued NVOT.
(2)  Higher face value of NVOT is created with just an idea in white paper.
(3)  Unless more people buy NVOT from Exchanges, dumping high face valued NVOT will be a capital loss for crowd sale investor.

The main difference between NVO and other projects with defined crowd fund is, face value of other's token will be lower - and hence public will buy more from Exchanges.  Thus crowd fund investor can sell tokens rather quick with better profit %.

(4)  As there is no dumping, there will be market stability for NVO.

Risk factor for a crowd sale investor depends on public's response to high valued NVOT at Exchanges and how NVO team meets deliverables.


People are encouraged to hold their NVOT, and this is one of the sollutions the team though about to protect the investors/holders and bring more stability to the value of NVOT.

I seem to have missed the new date for ICO, apologies if I missed it. Has it been defined yet. I t appears the site clock is back to 26 days? Or is this still in the air. If there is a new date, may I suggest making it easier to find. Thank you


Yes it apeared, take your time, the crowdsale is open for a long time.

I seem to have missed the new date for ICO, apologies if I missed it. Has it been defined yet. I t appears the site clock is back to 26 days? Or is this still in the air. If there is a new date, may I suggest making it easier to find. Thank you

Create an account, the ICO is live

Yes, the crowdsale is live. Feel free to join.


I seem to have missed the new date for ICO, apologies if I missed it. Has it been defined yet. I t appears the site clock is back to 26 days? Or is this still in the air. If there is a new date, may I suggest making it easier to find. Thank you

Create an account, the ICO is live

OMG  Google had cached the page!! Might let people know! I used Firefox and now I can get in!

don't worry, just wait untill the cache renews, you can take your time.
You can also reboot your computer in order to get a full reload.


Is there anyone successfully invested through https://nvo.io.  Need help.

1.  Landed on https://nvo.io/dashboard.php -->
2.  Entered my BTC electrum vallet's address -->
3.  Click 'Submit query' (there is no 'Submit' button). 
      Instead of clicking 'Submit query', tried pressing enter key as well -->
4.  Page refreshes and my BTC address wiped out. 
5.  Clicked on 'Copy' button located under Bitcoin. 
     It copies  "Please, register a bitcoin address first".

Clearly there is something wrong.

Yes people aleready invested. Please can you send me your email address by PM.
could you also please try to use the button ?

Keep us updated, don't send your informations here, use PMs, don't send password.


338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟🌟🌟 Escrows 🌟🌟🌟 on: May 26, 2017, 10:43:14 PM
The crowdsale is back up and running.


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It was a bad monent when i saw your update regarding delay in crowdsale ! I hope to see its restoration soon.
Anyways, does the delay in crowdsale affect the signature campaign?

Yes, that's what happens when you release crowdsales, you get attacked.
No, it doesn't affect the campaign.


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again, such promptness of you to answer all of our questions is so commendable. thumbs up fro that.
anyway, i am happy that the signature campaign is not affected even if there are delays in the crowdsale.. i just thought the team will also pause the signature campaign due to the existing problems.

I do it with great pleasure it is my dutty.

The first week of campaign passed and I am wander was the work of all that people who are in the campaign profitable. Feel free to share your opinion.

What do you mean ?

nemgun, Just wondering the reason for not setting a limit for crowd sale.  Kindly clarify.

Because it is not really necessary as the investors will decide of the price of NVOT.

Why the SAFE network over Ethereum?

Because SafeNetwork is a decentralized distributed storage network, they will also work on distributed computing. Ethereum's most interesting are smart contracts, but they are limited compared to what could be done using SafeNetwork.
339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟🌟🌟 Escrows 🌟🌟🌟 on: May 26, 2017, 11:32:44 AM
@Devs: Can you please explain what is the difference between you project and:

Shapeshift?

Jaxx including Shapeshift?

Bitsquare?

BCExchange?


It is a repeating question, and we answered that in the thread, please can you read this post :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917456.msg19108512#msg19108512
Could you please more specific ? Honestly I could not understand anything from the referred post. When I will be holding private-keys of my funds all the times, how exactly the actual exchange will take place. In depth foreseeing, I understand such kind of exchange is possible when I meet a person with similar interests, then it means NVO works similar to a marketplace just for finding exchangers ?

No, the system is pretty simple. have you watched the Video ? it may be better then words.

So, let's say that you want to exchange Bitcoin for ethereum. You will create an order, this order will be received by the validator using safe launcher (lots of possibilities here regarding implementation), this order will be set as pending order for matching. Once it is matched, your wallet will be notified, and will create a transaction, and sign it.
The validator will receive your transaction and will check for the validity of the informations like the balance, the fees, the addresses ... once everything is ok, it will broadcast your transaction without your intervention.

The same process will happen on the other side, regarding the one who wants to sell ethereum for bitcoin.

Please feel free to ask more questions.



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I visited this link https://nvo.io/ but the response I got is that server not found. Is the ICO on? if not when is it going to open. I think this is not good for the project because if the ICO page can't be maintined successful how are we sure about our fund on the exchange

I just visited the site too just now.  and we have encounter the same problem. 

I just want to ask the team if are they making steps in order to solve this promptly?  I have seen and reading some negative comments from other members here because of this.  I hope you will address this so that them will no longer criticise you. 

have a good day!


Hello, it is due to server change and reconfiguration, DNS propagation takes time and depends on the ISPs, that's why usually they ask for up to three days for a full propagation. Everyone is working here, and the issues will be addressed.

Thanks for asking.

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ok sir. thank you for clarifying this to us. atleast it is already clarified now and  hopefully no more negative thoughts will arise.. hopefully it will be ok in the next few days. i will try to revisit it in a day or two just to check it again if it is already ready.

Thank you for your support.


It is always great to see crowdsale of tokens backed by some strong project than just being a simple token crowdsale. NVO is truly an innovatory project especially the concept of validator. Will be looking distribution and development closely.  Smiley

Thank you, the team provides a lot of efforts to be as fair as possible during crowdsale.


It was a bad monent when i saw your update regarding delay in crowdsale ! I hope to see its restoration soon.
Anyways, does the delay in crowdsale affect the signature campaign?

Yes, that's what happens when you release crowdsales, you get attacked.
No, it doesn't affect the campaign.


It was a bad monent when i saw your update regarding delay in crowdsale ! I hope to see its restoration soon.
Anyways, does the delay in crowdsale affect the signature campaign?

Regardless of what happens in the signature campaign, we support you guys at this moment. It is really sad to see this happening, we are experiencing many shut downs and lags in most of the BTC exchanges and betting sites because of this pump. Dumping now.

Thank you for your support, the crowdsale will be up and running soon.
Yes, some exchanges are suffering from heavy loads, because of bots and the amount of integrated systems.

It was a bad monent when i saw your update regarding delay in crowdsale ! I hope to see its restoration soon.
Anyways, does the delay in crowdsale affect the signature campaign?

Regardless of what happens in the signature campaign, we support you guys at this moment. It is really sad to see this happening, we are experiencing many shut downs and lags in most of the BTC exchanges and betting sites because of this pump. Dumping now.

I don't think matter is worth worry.
Strong projects are not much affected by such problems. Let's be optimistic, NVO will going to be the best crowdsale of 2017!!

You are right, it is not worth to worry about technical issues, unless you are concerned. You can't imagine how disapointing it is for both visitors and developers.

Thank you for your optimistic support.


It was a bad monent when i saw your update regarding delay in crowdsale ! I hope to see its restoration soon.
Anyways, does the delay in crowdsale affect the signature campaign?

Regardless of what happens in the signature campaign, we support you guys at this moment. It is really sad to see this happening, we are experiencing many shut downs and lags in most of the BTC exchanges and betting sites because of this pump. Dumping now.
Many big sites are shut at the moment including Kraken and Coinbase.
However, present up/downs in bitcoin world surely not going to effect NVO crowdsale. There are already many supporters of the project and it going to be a huge success.

Thank you, i really hope that for the team and the project.
stay tuned.

I hope the crowdsale starts soon – this project is amazing, and I would really like to support it in any way I can. You guys are providing an extraordinary project that hasn't been made before.

Thank you, the team and i are doing our best to provide a clear and fair experience to everyone.


https://cointelegraph.com/news/as-bitcoin-altcoins-fall-coinbase-bows-out-due-to-technical-problems?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Users lament disappearance during crucial market moments
The lack of a trading platform has left many users in the lurch and they have been complaining on Twitter. @callux tweeted, “You have money. Your fees are astronomical. Buy better infrastructure.” While @ed_baker tweeted, “So let's see: price tanks, Coinbase goes offline. This is at least the third time I've seen this happen since March.” Adding to the complaints @StoicFrog tweets, “ETH dropped to $164 and your crap site failed to allow me to buy. Odd how your site crashes at the most opportune time for sellers & buyers.”


this project, if developed correctly , can solve this big trouble.


You are right, that's why NVO wanted to do a crowdsale, because it is not a project who can be done by a single developer on his free time, it needs a strong architecture and a competent team. I know the developer, and i can assure you that he have what it needs to  manage the development.

Thank you for your support.


I hope the crowdsale starts soon – this project is amazing, and I would really like to support it in any way I can. You guys are providing an extraordinary project that hasn't been made before.

Unluckily there are problems with the site, they said that there are site flooding and the crowdsale will be delayed. Thanks to Lauda which identified the scammers, He/She is really reliable, I just hope he/she still continue to do these with the other projects. There will be dissapointed investors, but rest assured, after these problem, there will be nothing to stop the crowdsale.

Yes, i was really pissed off by the situation, scammers are ethicless.

I hope the crowdsale starts soon – this project is amazing, and I would really like to support it in any way I can. You guys are providing an extraordinary project that hasn't been made before.

Unluckily there are problems with the site, they said that there are site flooding and the crowdsale will be delayed. Thanks to Lauda which identified the scammers, He/She is really reliable, I just hope he/she still continue to do these with the other projects. There will be dissapointed investors, but rest assured, after these problem, there will be nothing to stop the crowdsale.
At the right time issue has been identified. This has made everything good and an reassurance to make the platform a trustworthy. Some could have disappointed, but the delay will never decline the value of the project.

That's correct, but it is sad that participants have been disappointed, i hope that they understand the situation.
If you are talking about the price of the token, it will be calculated at the end of the crowdsale.

this project stands and falls with good tech, (that you seem to have) buy also solid UI please dont make the same mistake like poswallet.com and underrate the importance of a good clean ui design, also a decent amount of the investment has to go into this

Yes they both agreed on a clear, easy to use, easy to read UI. That's why they wanted to create a plugin system, users won't have to be annoyed by features they don't need, and could directly download and add the features they want.

In the whitepaper they call it a " simple learning curve "
340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟🌟🌟 Escrows 🌟🌟🌟 on: May 25, 2017, 08:28:07 AM
hello, using counterparty what does it mean if i have an electrum wallet to send btc from? is compatible? then how could i see my nvo tokens?

Hello, es you can send from an electrum wallet as you can then get the private key and import it into NVO wallet. But you won't be able to see the tokens into electrum as it is not compatible with counterparty.
More informations here: https://counterparty.io/docs/faq/


0.21 BTC sent to address 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z .  GL in your development.

Thank you, i hope that you sent using a private bitcoin address, and that you hold the private key of this address.


I did.  Smiley


Awesome ! thank you for your participation
I visited this link https://nvo.io/ but the response I got is that server not found. Is the ICO on? if not when is it going to open. I think this is not good for the project because if the ICO page can't be maintined successful how are we sure about our fund on the exchange
I visited this link https://nvo.io/ but the response I got is that server not found. Is the ICO on? if not when is it going to open. I think this is not good for the project because if the ICO page can't be maintined successful how are we sure about our fund on the exchange

It was down yesterday but once they moved to new server NVO's website is up and running.  I am able to access https://nvo.io
Crowdsale (v/s ICO) will start in next 2 days.  NVO website has the details. 
I guess hiccups are expected on any new ventures, but you bought a good point "...page can't be maintained successful how are we ...".  Hopefully team behind NVO project will take care of such issues.

Yes the website is up again, and the team is working, and evryone is working on improving it. Thank you for your concerns.


hello, using counterparty what does it mean if i have an electrum wallet to send btc from? is compatible?
You can send from any wallet which is allowing access to private keys. They meant you should not send from coinbase nor xapo kind of web wallets as they are not allowing us to access the private key of your bitcoin addy.

how could i see my nvo tokens?
To see NVO tokens you might need to import your privatekey into NVO's wallet (probably after moving out any of your BTC balances, if you concern). NVO wallet yet to be released and token distribution is not happening now, hence you cannot see right now. You need to wait till ICO ends.

i see that you understood the project, good job. And thank you for helping.

NVO + WINGS
Would be a great team, keep it in mind  Wink

Thanks for the comment, i will transmit.

This has nothing to do with the Exchange, and you have no valid arguments. It is not uncommon for projects to get overwhelmed by unexpected demand, both in the crypto industry and outside of it. Even the biggest exchanges have been recently struggling with the load.

Quite friendly founders. All good signs of things to come I'm sure.

I am not a founder, or team member. I am a friend helping them, and yes they are really friendly and each one assumes his role as he should.
They are totally open for questions, do not hesitate.


Will there be a hardware version or are there plans to become compatible with a cold storage like TREZOR?

NVO want to be user friendly, universal and hassle free. They will work on hard wallets as it is also meant to be used as cold storage. so Yes.


I visited this link https://nvo.io/ but the response I got is that server not found. Is the ICO on? if not when is it going to open. I think this is not good for the project because if the ICO page can't be maintined successful how are we sure about our fund on the exchange

I just visited the site too just now.  and we have encounter the same problem. 

I just want to ask the team if are they making steps in order to solve this promptly?  I have seen and reading some negative comments from other members here because of this.  I hope you will address this so that them will no longer criticise you. 

have a good day!


Hello, it is due to server change and reconfiguration, DNS propagation takes time and depends on the ISPs, that's why usually they ask for up to three days for a full propagation. Everyone is working here, and the issues will be addressed.

Thanks for asking.


Newbie question. How are the NVOS kept at a price of 99 cents and how would I exchange them for USD?

Hello, the NVOS will be sold by the validator at a fixed price, using counterparty. The amount of NVOS will change depending of volume. Do not hesitate to ask questions.


Ah, sorry. I'm still not sure I understand. Ok so I sell it by the validator and who buys it? Another user? The validator? I guess I'm asking where the USD comes from?
See, told you it was a newbie question.

Also when do the developers expect the project to come out with a working prototype? 6 months? A year? 2 years?


I understand, let's follow the scheme :

1- Investor/Holder puts NVOT on the wallet.
2- Exchange collects fees, and prepares a distribution.
3- The validator sends the NVOS to the NVOT holders.
4- A sell order is open on counterparty DEX with the equivalent value of the NVOS distributed.
5- A holder can then exchange the NVOS on counterparty, for it's value in Bitcoin.
6- The NVOS are stored and their supply modified to maintain the price of 0.99$

I hope that it helps.

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