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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm offering 4 Million NXT to buyout LTBcoin on: January 19, 2015, 05:09:53 PM
Would this mean you have a monopoly on LTB advertising forever?
342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cleanup: I'll attack some coins - I owned APEXcoin for 90 blocks on: January 19, 2015, 04:52:07 PM
I read it the same way as achimsmile, I think a comma/fullstop/words were missing in your rush  Grin

"Around 20% would be quite a lot, or if I may say, with the current total amount of stake forging. So around 23% of stake would give you a shot at a 51% attack as there is about 45% of the stake forging at the moment."

I think ^ is what you meant. But it read as though only 23% of people were forging.

Isn't this more or less exactly what's expected? You need around half of the total staking power to attack?
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 19, 2015, 07:50:22 AM
This is a really spendy coin.  Hope there's some serious backers..

What do you mean by spendy?
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cleanup: I'll attack some coins - I owned APEXcoin for 90 blocks on: January 17, 2015, 06:30:50 PM

Has there been any actual proof of your attacks or are you just posting "successfull" messages and everyone is supposed to believe it ?
I'm with most people here. Attack a relatively active NXT clone or fork, show proof and then we can talk.

Bittrex confirmed his APEX attack.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686403.msg10169983#msg10169983
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about garza's speech being cancelled? on: January 17, 2015, 06:22:28 PM

Sometimes a picture says 1000 words. Cheesy
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nothing-at-Stake & Long Range Attack on Proof-of-Stake (Consensus Research) on: January 17, 2015, 05:48:19 PM
From what I know Vitalik wants to go PoS, but Gavin Wood et al refuse to do anything other than PoW.
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: January 15, 2015, 06:12:15 PM
dead coin

Only if you consider Bitcoin and all alts dead as well I'd say.
348  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: January 15, 2015, 03:04:39 PM
Hi, I just made an account and I was wondering if I needed to verify my account or not. I just plan to deposit BTC and withdraw in BTC as well, no fiat necessary. I'm worried about my account getting locked or something.
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Monero under 25 cents? What the hell are you waiting for? on: January 15, 2015, 10:25:58 AM
can't believe this shit coin has its own market at poloniex, makes the whole site unprofessional.

Agree. Why put money in a Bytecoin clone that's tanking.
You're better off putting it in Bytecoin itself.
http://bytecoin.org/

How is your Tenebrix stash doing?

Apt comparison considering the scamminess of both of the 'originals' Tenebrix and Bytecoin. Cheesy
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: More BitShares greed. on: January 14, 2015, 05:05:47 PM

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.


Please give us the link where you trying to convince someone about questions of this topic.
Or you prefer to copy/paste that Satoshi says and run away?  Smiley

I've been waiting years to use that line on bytemaster and I figured this might be one of the last chances to do so. Tongue

He's a part of Bitcoin history: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306 Probably the most famous Satoshi quote there is. Cheesy
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: More BitShares greed. on: January 14, 2015, 04:42:14 PM

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 14, 2015, 12:23:35 PM
some help please

http://bitmark.co:3000/address/bQTxGedgc3Vg8xx5AHTHeNu3RxY4KEtXdx

I mined these coins probably three weeks ago and they haven't matured yet?

thanks


720 block maturity rate. So depending on what happens here with the network, it might be a while. Sorry for the inconvenience.
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 13, 2015, 06:49:23 AM

3 days to be confirmed in a block! I thought bitcoin took a long time. Anyway, in regards to syncing...the block explorer does not show any blocks (basically the one from the OP is not working for me: http://bitmark.co:3000/) so I can not check to see if my client block height matches. Been stuck on block 46439 for days. The add node code is not help either. What is the last network block?

Looks like 46439 is the latest block and it's been a while. One of the pools says we're over 300% over the estimated time for mining the next block, so it's just a case of bad variance.
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 12, 2015, 01:43:55 PM
Yes. And for what it's worth I don't think there's any ill intent at all here and I trust Mark.
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 12, 2015, 01:14:57 PM
Posting this here for the sake of transparency. This is from #general on slack. Anyone wanting a slack invite let me know an email address and i'll send you an invite:

19:40]  klaranet (bot): 1₥ has been awarded to androidicus

[19:40] melvincarvalho: how much is missing from the foundation is my primary concern

[19:40] melvincarvalho: many people dontated

[19:43] androidicus: Personally; 250 BTM & 0.2 or 0.3 BTC (if I recall correctly) - _donations_ I would stress, not developer loans (edited)

[19:44] melvincarvalho: @androidicus: taking donations is worse, developer loans are expected as loans .. im not talking about development donations, someone reported just now that some of the BTM from the foundation are not there ... the explorer is down, this really needs to be clarified immediately

[19:45] androidicus: Oh - I was about to say that I am a way off having 'integrity' doubts... yet (edited)

[19:47] melvincarvalho: needs to be sorted out ASAP

[19:49] melvincarvalho: sometimes development doesnt go to plans, that happens

[19:49] melvincarvalho: sometimes loans dont get paid and need to wait a while

[19:49] melvincarvalho: that's one thing

[19:49] melvincarvalho: it's another to use funds that have been set aside for another purpose

[19:49] melvincarvalho: if that's happened

[19:52] amarha: to make sure everyone is on the same page wrt to the foundation funds, from what i know s11made noticed a transfer out a while back and brought it up with mark. then mark explained to s11made, myself, medic that he had swept the wrong private key, meaning to sweep his personal funds instead. and that his usb key was with one of his children who went away to school i believe. the original amount transferred out was 2500 and so far 1500 of that has been returned.

[19:53] amarha: so that's what i know about the situation

[19:53] amarha: should have been more transparent about it before

[19:54] melvincarvalho: @amarha: so 1000 BTM is still not accounted for?  Is there a way we can see without the explorer there?

[19:54] androidicus: http://www.blocktree.io/e/BTM

[19:55] amarha: i didn't think much of it to be honest, i remember he had accidentally sent foundation funds before a while ago. but in hindsight i don't know why i didn't recommend that a post be made about the situation or anything.

[19:56] amarha: http://bitmark.co:3000/address/bQmnzVS5M4bBdZqBTuHrjnzxHS6oSUz6cG
Bitmark (BTM) Block Explorer. View detailed information on all bitmark transactions and block. {{ $root.title + $root.titleDetail }}

[19:56] amarha: is back up

[19:56] amarha: yeah so there's 1000 BTM that's outstanding atm

[19:56] melvincarvalho: Total Sent     5172.88557296 BTC

[19:57] melvincarvalho: so what's the 5000?

[19:57] melvincarvalho: would you expect that normally to be 0?

[19:59] amarha: yeah, before it was the 1000. then i guess plus the 2500. and then there looks to be ~1600 or something that went out and then came back

[20:00] amarha: not sure. last thing i remember is the 2500 going out and then mark mentioning he returned 1500

[20:01] melvincarvalho: 6c912884490a9c441227ed031d2cb0fe092269522952a7d736c24f9cb9fb4e7e
Copied!
mined Oct 21, 2014 6:13:57 PM

[20:01] melvincarvalho: 2500 out

[20:02] melvincarvalho: a23bb35c4123f718f233b41776b01cfbd4ec7087af309f638fc1372362c5c0ba
Copied!
mined Nov 7, 2014 7:44:56 PM

[20:02] melvincarvalho: 1500 out

[20:02] melvincarvalho: 1 week later 1500 put back in

[20:03] melvincarvalho: then 1500 put back in 4th Jan

[20:03] amarha: yeah i don't know what happened there. perhaps the 1500 was already back in when s11made noticed the 2500. that's my guess as to why i don't know about it, as at the time the balance simply would have been whatever the full balance was supposed to be minus 2500 (edited)

[20:04] melvincarvalho: the problem for me is that in october btm was trading at 100k-200k and today it was trading at 4k

[20:05] amarha: yeah. to be fair it could have gone either way too. but i see what you're saying.

[20:06] melvincarvalho: so what now?

[20:07] melvincarvalho: anyone that donated has a right to know

[20:08] melvincarvalho: imho, the only honest thing to do is to immediately make this info public, on any public channel where donations were solicited, then give markp a chance to clear things up ...

[20:08] amarha: yeah i'll do that now. hopefully mark can get online at some point.

[20:09] melvincarvalho: im not the most diplomatic person :stuck_out_tongue: so maybe someone else should .. at least we brought it out here ...

[20:09] amarha: i'll make a post with this chat here as it covers what i know about the situation. there's not a lot i can say about it other than just the facts and then everyone can discuss it from there.
NEW MESSAGES

[20:11] melvincarvalho: sure but it could be perfectly innocent, and he's not here right now to give his side of the story, so perhaps give some element of benefit of the doubt ... people can come here if they want to find out .. and it's 'only' 1000 BTM ... markp may have donated more than that himself, but I think we need clarity just in case

[20:13] melvincarvalho: wish he was here to explain :disappointed:
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 12, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
So, do a hardfork with DigiShield (v2 or v3, ask NLG guys), rent some rigs for a couple of days to move blocks, fixed.

It isn't that hard.

It doesn't address the issues with supply though. When demand is low we'd prefer that supply is reduced as well.
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Patrick Byrne interview seems to confirm he is no longer working w/ counterparty on: January 11, 2015, 08:15:51 PM

Quote
thte Next NXT team has assembled an interesting Blockchain that is much quicker than bitcoin for confirming transactions but lacks bitcoin's security by several orders of magnitude.

That sounds like a bit of an overstatement I think if we're talking about cost to mount a successful attack. It's more likely one order of magnitude or two at the very worst.

Without getting into a POS vs POW debate where a small army of NXT supporters show up to proclaim NXT has solved things whilst detractors show up to hotlink Poelstra pdf's.. I agree the "orders of magnitude" claim didn't come with any sort of citation and should really be removed, Not sure where those numbers were plucked from. Maybe saying that compared to bitcoin, nxt hasn't been equivalently battle-tested (at least in terms of the amount of eyes over it making peer-review during the last number of years, and relative $ invested in the infrastructure of each) would be a fairer and less subjective statement to make there.

Yeah, I agree.
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA :: NXT 'monetary system' currency on: January 11, 2015, 08:07:03 PM
Awesome news. Great to see ORA the currency come in to existence. Smiley
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 11, 2015, 07:54:51 PM
The chain is stuck? I wanted to send some BTM to my local wallet, but still no confirms... it's been 4h or so  Huh
Took 2-3 days to send from wallet to exchange.
Seems like a letter with my privat key to Busoni would have been faster  Roll Eyes


Yeah, chain is just mining blocks very slowly due to the high difficulty and low hash. Not stuck or anything. It's very inconvenient for sending BTM around at the moment but one way or the other we have to get it back up to speed either though rasing demand or changing the algo if need be.
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 11, 2015, 07:52:00 PM
Is "mark"/"marking" reserved for the reputation score only?  So that regardless of the amount of bitmarks given by any individual to another, it is the specific act of giving them (i.e., each transaction) that counts as one "mark"?

 

No, it's integration specific. So you can set it up whichever way you'd like for your own website or whatever. You can also use different algorithms if you plan on emphasizing the reputation part of it. I think we wanted to have a repository of algorithms and such so that people could just choose whatever one they thought would work well for them if they felt they needed one.

In some cases like perhaps a charity, the reputation aspect might not matter as much(or it might, it depends on the way they want to do it) so they might just integrate marking as a way that people can mark and transfer value to whatever cause they deem worthy.

Thanks for the info.

IMHO, from a marketing perspective, it's too bad there isn't a way to incorporate the full Bitmark branding into the "mark" terminology -- something like "Bitmarking" or "Bitmarkers."   I think Bitmark is a fantastic name (obvious btc association) but "marks" loses this, adds some confusion (public already finds crypto confusing) and sounds generic.  Maybe this isn't possible because of the need to differentiate the reputation aspect with certain algorithms or I'm missing something else.  Anyways just my 2 cents  Smiley


Someone has a bitmarking domain name registered I think. One of the things about marking is that for a lot of people who use it for the first time they probably won't even realize that it's associated with a cryptocurrency, or even what a cryptocurrency is for that matter. Almost like they get slowly eased in to it and learn step by step through actually using it and seeing the value in crypto as a daily use currency. Some people might think of Bitcoin as some vague investment thing that they saw on the news or the IT guy at work won't shut up about Tongue. Of course they'll be some people who are already aware of Bitcoin and maybe some sites/marking integrations that target that type of audience might make the Bitmark part of marking more apparent. It's going to be up to each individual marking integration how they want to present it so it will be interesting to see some of the variations in how it's used maybe.
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