Sounds and stinks like selective login privileges. Those accounts with lots of coins get blocked while the empty ones can get in.

And I'm guessing a few here are Yobit shills, trying to appease the fear and panic and keep those coins flowing into their hot wallets. Stretch that calm before the storm as loooooooong as possible.

Guys, search the forum and the rest of the web. Two words: yobit scam. You'll unearth enough dirt to fill an encyclopedia.

Your throwaway account should be tagged and negged for this scam attempt. Seems like you didn’t really put much effort and time into the whole planning work. Website is poorly designed. Scam is obvious, as if crying out for attention instead.

You’re not just a scammer but a parasite, a predatory opportunist trying to exploit and take advantage of a desperate situation.

But transparency overrides privacy in lending transactions involving amounts of the kind discussed here. It's all about due diligence.

It also helps the lender check if the collateral's source is legitimate. So much news these days about stolen coins.

Was it you who sent the SWIFT transfer? Is the name on the Mistertango account identical to the the SWIFT sender’s name? If it’s someone else who sent the SWIFT, then Mistertango should delay it and check very carefully to make sure it’s a legit SWIFT transmission. So many scammers on this planet opening online bank accounts and scamming people on Craigslist or Ebay by SWIFT payment.

Good to see Mistertango taking their time with this transfer. They should send a tracing message or a TX Interrogative to the sending bank requesting they check with the sending person about the nature of the payment. What it’s for and how that sender is related to the receiver.

Edit... I just sent their support an email recommending strongly that they check SWIFT transfers carefully because it’s a system prone to being misused and abused by fraudsters. This is why we are running out of options on this forum. Fraud. All the banks and card providers are worried about it!

Provide the following information ASAP:

• Information about this "escrow service that is familiar with BTC transactions" and
• Signed address(es) proving BTC holdings as claimed above.

If you’re thinking about manipulating the escrow procedure by appointing someone biased in your favor or doctoring it by suggesting an external escrow service aka a fraudster, it simply won’t work. Everything is vetted, weighed, checked and double checked here.

Don’t even think about suggesting a private attorney or escrow.com or other hocus pocus nonsense.

Trusted escrows of this forum are the only transparent way forward with this deal.

You probably forget that PayPal is a reversible payment method. It might be a hassle free trade for you because you get the coins and still have that window of opportunity to reverse the payment, but it’s a totally different story for the seller who will be hassled with sleepless nights nervously wondering what his PayPal balance might look like when he wakes up. And it’s something that seller has to live with for the next 180 days.

If you want a quick and hassle free trade, offer to pay with a safer payment method. One you can’t reverse and charge back after getting the coins.

Hey... works this way:

Scammer tries to convince you to send entire coins or money first. If you refuse and insist on using a safe transaction method (for example, using a trusted escrow) the scammer will try to talk you out of it by bait and switching the trade terms. Here are the telltale red flags:

• ”I’m in a hurry. Will look for someone else if you can’t trade right now. I don’t have the time to wait for escrow to respond!”
• ”If we use escrow you pay the escrow fee and I’ll buy your coins at a lower price!”
• ”You send the coins first. No escrow.”
• Bossy attitude. Tries to boss you around to talk you into sending first.

etc etc

If you still refuse, the scammer will now use the “increments scam”. He will tell you to send some of the coins first (usually half) and he promises to pay the full amount when he gets those coins. He will try to sweeten the deal and tempt you to do it by offering a better price. To make sure you have no time to doubt the deal or think about it or ask for second opinion on the forum, he will keep chatting to keep you focused on sending the coins quickly. He might send fake ID or links to his Facebook to boost the trust level.

To make it look like he is the more legit guy, he will pretend to be worried about you not sending the rest of the coins later. “Don’t screw me dude, I’ll call the cops on you! Promise you’ll send me the rest of the coins after I pay?”

It’s all about getting some of your bitcoins (increments of your coins) since he can’t talk you into sending the entire coins. After all, stealing 10% or even less of your coins is still better than stealing none.


Yes, that’s a variant of the scam. The scammer starts the trade with, say, just 10% of your coins. He then pays you quickly to make sure you are happy and satisfied with that first trade experience. He will then insist on doing the rest (90%) in one sting operation. You send and wait for payment... and he disappears.

Finally, some of us can soon own a whole bitcoin again. I miss those days when my bitcoin balance was showing something other than zero on the left side of that dot.

If or when they become available, will your fully verified users require KYC re-verification? Or can they order the card immediately?

I was one of your Wave Crest and C.Pay card holders. I won't be back in Europe until September so can't get proof of address until then. My bank in Berlin will not send bank statements overseas.

Excited but I will only believe it when it actually happens.

200 million Korean Won (KRW) = about 200k USD.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/02/121_243438.html

This is sad. Never invest or bet your entire life savings on anything so volatile and uncertain. Losing it all is a disaster which can destroy families, jobs, health and life.

Many of us are ardent believers and followers of this technology but cautious optimism is just as healthy as tempered skepticism.

Asians have a strong saving-face mentality which is what drives them to do extreme things to compensate for any failure. Even making life-ending decisions for things like failing exams or being rejected admission by universities.

Failures should be celebrated. It's like a free college course offered by the university of life.

Yep, that's the only way this works for a Mistertango account. The app has an integrated identity verification system called Jumio. It scans your ID or passport and takes a selfie of you holding that ID. It might ask you to blink your eyes to verify it's a live person and not a picture who is being verified.

It looks like it uses biometric facial recognition. It compares the selfie to the passport picture in real time.

Urgent or otherwise, it won't happen. Venmo is reversible and prone to fraud. It is an extremely venomous payment method.

Be reasonable. Use a safer and chargeback-proof payment method to pay for the bitcoins. Don't endanger others by offering something you can dispute and reverse within minutes after you get the coins.

That's how.

But it's still complicated and risky. The risks are two fold. First, converting altcoins to BTC first, then BTC to XST involves two conversions. This translates to a loss for anyone doing this. Second, transactions without escrow protection are risky.

Now that Advcash cards are disabled, paying to this exchange is an additional risk. It's like selling coins on an exchange and wiring the money to a bank you can't withdraw from.

Generally ordinary mail but you can request them to send the card to you by courier (DHL or FedEx) if you're prepared to pay the courier fee. They sent mine by DHL. The process involves depositing enough money or coins into your Mistertango account to cover the courier fee.

If you request for DHL or FedEx they will respond with a quotation or price. They probably call the courier company in Vilnius first to check the cost of delivery to your country. If you respond and agree with the quotation, the courier fee will be taken from your Mistertango balance and the card will arrive quickly. I got mine within a few days.

If anyone seriously intends to proceed with a trade or consider doing one at the scale (10 mil and up) mentioned above, the following should be observed without fail:

• Due diligence. Remember, this is about millions.
• Escrow. Require this even if the buyers claim to be reputable. Refuse to transact if buyer declines to engage the services of a trusted escrow. Beware of the “increments scam”.
• PayPal and other reversible payment methods. Refuse them, especially for extremely immense amounts. You will encounter very serious problems related to KYC, AML and fraud mitigation and even if these issues are resolved, there is still an unquantifiable risk of PayPal erring on the side of caution and imposing account sanctions as a consequence thereof.
• SWIFT/BIC transfer. Again, do your due diligence to mitigate fraud. This can be reversed if the wired funds are later discovered to be fraudulent or anomalous. Remember, banks are paranoid and will want compliance followed and satisfied to the letter.
• Meeting up in person for cash payment. Plan this carefully, mindful of your safety and your family’s too. Always know in the back of your mind, both actively and passively, that not all cash are made equal. There are the genuine ones and the not so genuine stuff.
• Your safety. Prioritize this over and above any gainful trade. When tempted to do this trade, stop and think first. Are the trade terms and conditions safe?

I think the main issues are these:

1. Skrill is a reversible and high risk payment method. It is similar to PayPal. This means you can dispute the payment after you get the coins and have the $3918 charged back.
2. USD 3918 is a large amount of money. With your account opened just a month ago, a reversible payment method is seen as a red flag. It makes people nervous.

Why don't you use Paxful?

https://paxful.com/buy-bitcoin/skrill

or BitPanda:

https://www.bitpanda.com/trades/buy

Well, that depends on when you intend to fulfill your promise:


Because if you can't post those details, then there will be doubts about your credibility.

You should also know that legit sellers here will trade or sell coins to you only if you agree to use a trusted escrow. That would be someone trusted enough to act as a middle man for buy/sell transactions between less trusted members here. The seller sends the coins to that middle man and you then pay for those coins. If the seller is happy with your payment, escrow releases the coins to you.

The payment methods you suggested (deal in person and bank deposit) seems safe. Meet and settle in a safe public location.

It won’t work. The whole thing sounds like you need coins to pay back previous “investors” which is the definition of a Ponzi scheme.

Or even worse, you might just keep the entire coins and ignore all those who naively sent anything.

Advertising a Ponzi scheme here will earn your spanking new throwaway account a red trust.

That's very nice but there is a problem with this. Italy is not exactly the kind of place where one can safely trade 200 BTC. For one, it is Europe's currency counterfeiting capital:

Read this
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And this
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Another one
etc etc.

Now as it stands today, 200 BTC = just a little under 2 mil $. That's a lot of coins to lose.

You mentioned "we". Meeting up with a group of people should be done with utmost caution. Anything can happen.