Sure, but most of them are just pump and dump, and the chance of raising 1000% is much smaller than the chance of them becoming equal to 0 $
How exactly would you drop let's say Huntercoin ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435170.0 ) to zero? 42 million coins in total, current supply is a bit over 10 million coins and with current price of roughly 500 Satoshis that makes Huntercoin marketcap a bit over 50 BTC. To buy all 10 million already mined coins for 1 Satoshi each you'd need just 0.1 BTC asuming all current holders would sell to you which is highly unlikely. So right there your story about "equal to zero" is not holding the water. But if you can find some other reasons why mentioned coin might go to zero feel free to post them (make sure you understand what is Huntercoin, who are developers and other fundamentals). I am so fucking tired of altcoins!
Every altcoin I've ever invested in has either been a scam or gone dead in the water after a while. Granted, you can earn a fair amount of BTC on altcoin speculation, but when it comes down to it I might as well should have just put my BTC in cold storage and then forgot about them until the next growthspurt. The amazing amount of bullshit I've been through with the god damn altcoins just hasn't been worth it.
Fuck altcoins, buy BTC. In the long run it's the safest bet.
Wait, so it is altcoins' fault that you lost money investing in them? It is not about your noobish trading and investing skills? You have bought into many early pumps and dumps, lost money there and now you are bitching about altcoins yet cheering Bitcoin expecting others to listen to you? Based on what success stories? Bitcoin dropped from above 1200 USD down to below 200 USD but it is great yet altcoins that dropped roughly the same (many actualy dropped less) are shit? |
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I'll send them a note. Cryptsy has always been listed on Coinmarketcap, so they only recently stopped reporting them. Maybe they couldn't get the API feed? Or maybe they are just as pissed off as everyone else. API issues probably, all Cryptsy markets (any coin) are gonne. |
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i don't know what happened that the doge altcoin is pumped today by 30% simple unbelievable.
Dogeparty (working clone of Counterparty for DOGE) went up 45% but with very low volume, still a nice example of how little money it takes to make a major price movement with some altcoins. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dogeparty/ |
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Could you please specify what these coons are, I mean which ones are they. I don't think that similar profits can be made but a nice nudge in that direction would be of great help
Put some time into investigating coins with marketcap at around or under 100 BTC at http://coinmarketcap.com/2#BTC and http://coinmarketcap.com/3#BTC then pick those that suit your interests, investement idea, sentiment or whatever. All those coins can easily 1000% in a day or less. Of course that no matter how awesome some coin might look you should not invest any serious money in it, start with a few USD invested at best and then over some time (weeks and months, not hours or days) decide if you wanna exit position, reduce it or add to it. Overaly (there are some exceptions) I'm hunting coins that are unique and are traded on at least 2 exchanges. If they trade in China that is a big plus. |
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What I am doing is buy a bit of coins and immidiately put them up for sale, at 2x 5x 10x 25x 100x profits depending on current coin marketcap and liquidity. There are few very cheap altcoins that overaly sound great to me and situation is there are not many up for sale which means if sudden madness hits price might surge extremely. So I buy 50,000 coins total at let's say 100 Satoshi each (total investment 0.05 BTC for that trade) and place sell orders as follows: 5,000 coins at 1,000 Satoshi = 0.05 BTC (return of investment) 10,000 coins at 2,500 Satoshi = 0.25 BTC (profit) 20,000 coins at 10,000 Satoshi = 2 BTC (even more profit) 15,000 coins remain for the highly unlikely but still possible case that 1 coin = 1 BTC  Of course, you can buy less coins in one go and spread buying over some period of time. |
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Therefore when you stick with Bitcoin, growth will definitely happen.
Nothing is 100% and so many things can go wrong anytime. If you are invested all into Bitcoin or whatever else you can realisticaly end up nulled. Altcoins, precious metals, land, enumismatics, rare or even unique stuff with constant demand are a nice way to hedge against total loss. Good portfolio is one where person is well diversified within and out of some sector, with very stable to very volatile investments where more attention and money is put into currently stable stuff. But whoever dismisses very volatile investments should not expect to ever see 1000% or higher gains. |
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I also think OP is right.
But I guess altcoins are unstable' though there are stable coins out here.
Altcoins are more volatile than Bitcoin but that is where higher % profits can be made. Or you can chose to stick with Bitcoin and use leveraged trading from 2:1 up to 20:1 if you dare. |
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It is not worth buying many/any now though as it is a needle in a hay stack lol
And when will you start buying? It is better to be a minute too early than a second too late especially if you know past price movements, upswings always being more explosive then downswings. if Bitcoins rises too much up in value, some people could turn interest in other e-coins and see it as the next 'big thing'.
It is not could but will, just watch it. |
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Sure, Bitcoin can go up 100% from here but altcoins can go up 1000% much easier and much faster, given their current marketcaps and lack of liquidity. But do not wait for too long, buy at least a small amount of altcoins at current very low prices and smile later when majority suddenly (re)discovers altcoins, many of which outperform Bitcoin is all technical aspects. Pretty much every noob investor and speculator is dumping altcoins now so you should be slowly buying them.
Last year which coin was pumped by 100% ? the answer is bitcoin. So clueless, consult charts before posting more. I consider bitcoin more stable than other altcoins, i know what the graphs says but it is a much higher risk investing in altcoins, i invested once in an altcoin and lost 95% of the investment as that coin ended costing 1 satoshi. You know that Bitcoin once went to 1 cent and still no one was buying it, right? In case you don't know here is the video coverage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1X6qQt9ONg |
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corgi is alive !!!
any news about working wallet?
Hello everybody. who has wallet Corgi  addnode=115.29.136.244 addnode=76.95.178.229 addnode=209.188.18.43 addnode=50.24.0.249 addnode=192.241.169.209 addnode=72.239.219.186 addnode=188.40.21.52 addnode=98.115.147.74 addnode=54.196.170.73 addnode=82.247.141.228 addnode=91.215.53.243 addnode=162.243.41.34 addnode=50.122.128.166 addnode=108.61.158.78 addnode=79.217.207.250 addnode=162.255.117.105 addnode=68.118.192.140 addnode=192.99.166.26 |
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Sure, Bitcoin can go up 100% from here but altcoins can go up 1000% much easier and much faster, given their current marketcaps and lack of liquidity. But do not wait for too long, buy at least a small amount of altcoins at current very low prices and smile later when majority suddenly (re)discovers altcoins, many of which outperform Bitcoin is all technical aspects. Pretty much every noob investor and speculator is dumping altcoins now so you should be slowly buying them.
Last year which coin was pumped by 100% ? the answer is bitcoin. So clueless, consult charts before posting more. |
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bitcoin is all we need.
"We" is under a million people (excluding myself) who are irrelevant in a bigger picture. Prepare to be assimilated or annihilated. Just for giggles, here are some wrongs and more wrongs from the past. http://imgur.com/gallery/kzKxU |
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Based on previous times bitcoin hit new all time highs many alts also saw their own all time highs too. As OP states many have bigger % gains. It seems they tend to lag behind bitcoin when the bull run is getting going but then eventually they spike to their own peaks earlier than bitcoin has its own bubble blow off. Won't surprise me to see this happen again.
The situation is pretty much like with precious metals, where mostly gold is leading the trend. Silver usualy follows, with higher volatilty thus higher possible profits. Other metals are more or less corelated but in any case just because there are gold and silver it can't be said other metals are not useful. Just like some metals outperform gold and silver in certain areas, there are many things one can do with current altcoins that Bitcoin will probably never be able to do. The main difference here is that not enough time passed for anyone sane to call Bitcoin a clear winner. |
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Added features? Oh you mean premine and PoS scam?
No, I mean https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1153740.0 and other useful features like InstantTX with Dash. Stuff that made Bitcoin obsolete (but no one said it loud enough for you to notice). |
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Altcoin are good only for a little but they cant compared with bitcoin anyhow.
Total bullshit. Many altcoins based on Bitcoin code (which means they do everything Bitcoin is doing but faster and with added features) can be added to all existing Bitcoin services or whatever in under a day. Which might easily happen if block size debate continues without satisfying solution and amount of Bitcoin transactions increases to sky (very likely). Others might need a bit more time but in any case people like you will, just like always, miss the chance to load up for a cheap early. Just like you missed a chance to load up on BTC at 1 USD, 10 USD or so. You people are actualy not seeing potential in anything, you are merely following the herd where, as always, the leaders are not working in your best interest. Cryptocoins or whatever. i dont see any reason for choosing altcoins
... but you are advertising Darknet jobs or whatever. Wait, are those jobs realy anonymous? Like, Bitcoin is anonymous? Ohh my!  |
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Lol Altcoins. ..
I know bitcoin has plenty of problems but Altcoins are not a solution neither do the vast majority of them have any potential or future.
No one here advised to buy vast majority of them. But even some randomly picked altcoin can make a big upside movement. Even total craps no one is seemingly interested into, if they are present at exchange, of course. You as a veteran here should be familiar with altcoin crazy price action back at times BTC reached all-time high price. BTC went roughly 1000% up while many altcoins went much higher. I see no good reason for situation to go the oppossite direction if BTC hits a new all-time high. |
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The downside risk is they go to zero, which is the same risk as bitcoin. But the upside potential of altcoins is much bigger than BTC because they have a long way to grow still.
Are you retarded?
Where is the potential upside if they just sit being batted back and forth between the same tiny pool of buyers? You mean it is harder to manipulate price if there are less buyers and sellers? Since when? |
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What about risks of 90%+ of altcoins which are doomed and have no way to recover because whales simply dumped all their holdings and newbies baghold them?
This x 1000. The downside risk is incredibly high-- most of these shitcoins are going to zero and no one is ever going to use them for anything constructive. Except maybe doge and ltc. So how exactly you think that you can kill let's say Phoenixcoin ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330956.0 ) which is currently traded at all-time lows and has total 43 million coins mined? At 1 Satoshi I'll buy all mined coins for only 0.43 BTC total (yes, I will) so what will you do afterwards, while I am raping the price any way I see fit and others are jumping on it based on extreme possible gains? How exactly you think to prevent me from totaly controling the market if I own all mined coins? But more important is do you realy know I won't be doing anything useful with PXC if all that happens? In case you haven't noticed, almost everyone who had any sort of innovative idea did not join Bitcoin but went their own way with their own coin or acquired a controling stake in some existing coin then launched whatever they had to offer. Or they are working on it. Many of you are clearly not thinking or know enough. |
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