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361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 24, 2016, 05:20:32 PM
This Azure exposure has created a real opportunity... I'd be interested to hear what kind of things people think could be done easily with monero blockchain as a service on Azure?

For sure it is great news but as you said What kind of things can be done? And it is with the Monero blockchain? Can someone explain this?

Thx in advance,
Its about sharing
362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 24, 2016, 04:54:04 PM
Has anyone seen it mentioned on how one can mine/forge? I see on the front page it says mining/forging is for "top delegates". Does this mean if we have LISK we can't stake them?

Thx in advance,
IAS
363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Lisk could be a big disappointment... on: March 24, 2016, 04:11:34 PM
when developers who know javascript choose to use Lisk over whatever ethereum's new language is, ethereum bagholders might be disappointed.  Lisk may have some better ideas for scaling as well.  given that nothing developed on ethereum thus far has any usage whatsoever, we're not even out of the starting gate with these dapp platforms. so far the internet has been the best dapp platform (Bittorrent, Tor, Bitcoin, OpenBazaar).  also, banks are not using ethereum, a bunch of banks are testing blockchain technology, which includes ethereum. but no banks will use ethereum when it becomes common knowledge that ethereum can't scale and the "research problem" of sharding and whatever else they're doing turns out to violate the cap theorem.

ever wonder why they sold tokens, paid for a marketing team, spammed pumpy emails, hyped hyped hyped and hyped some more long before having their finished product? because they know they can't do it. that's why they're leaving the impossible parts of ethereum's vision for ethereum 4.0 or whatever stupid name they have for it.  i even own some ethereum, but i'll be dumping those bags before the shit hits the fan.

Pretty sensible post. This space is so new and Ethereum, for all the brilliance behind it, is not a given. I think LISK, using Javascript as you mentioned, is just too obvious. It can really just sneak up on Ethereum in my opinion. Who knows, maybe that 1000 BTC block of buys was from Vitalik himself, to try to keep the price down post launch.  Grin
But seriously, LISK has a great chance and with all those Javascript devs out there, the sky is really the limit.

If there are any brilliant ideas out there, they can be written quickly and relatively cheaply in Javascript. Really, the limits are whatever the coders or visionaries see them to be.
364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ether price? on: March 24, 2016, 07:36:34 AM
ETH is cheap right now and should be seen as a long term investment. Each day there are more and more new devs jumping into the Ethereum Eco system to develop DAO and DAPPS. And let's not forget the banking industries great interest in ETH.

eth is buggy incomplete software with no real world use. Why does this deserve a value of $12?? I think that eth is promising but for the current stage of development the price is to high. For this early stage a price of $1 - $2 would be more reasonable. Even if i wanted to try ether i would not pay $12 for a single coin thats just a deal breaker.

The entire Crypto space is new and buggy. You are in a sense doing the same as those who criticized the internet back in the day because there were not many websites and the post worked fine for them.
To value companies and these technologies now requires taking a chance and a lot of foresight.
If you want to wait for profits, p/e ratios, etc. you will be looking at the rocket leaving Earth orbit.
365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ether price? on: March 23, 2016, 10:32:48 PM
I think when bitcoin breaks up soon eth will be heavily dumped and will hardly be discussed/forgotten about shortly after. I don't see it riding the wave with bitcoin like other actual cryptocurrencies like ltc, nmc, xmr, xpm etc.

Btc looks poised to break up and out of the daily triangle.
But what if the loss of confidence makes it break down?
And the block halving follows, could be a blood bath.
Not saying it kills BTC, just so early in the game.
366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: March 23, 2016, 10:30:02 PM
That article is interesting regarding Ethereums price and how it can help fund the company for quite a few years.
I would imagine companies invested and investing into Ethereum know this, so perhaps they are "funding" Ethereum
so to speak by buying the Ether, with this intention...

Well a similar thing happened with Bitcoin, maybe not quite as direct but companies like Circle, Xapo, Coinbase really started the whole Bitcoin "bubble" and interest back then, that's a fact.

Wasn't the 2013 bubble start before any of those companies had traction or even started?
I thought Gox problems and the Chinese started the bubble, well along with regular interest.
367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which coin is the next Ethereum? on: March 23, 2016, 08:25:45 PM
I think LISK might surprise some in how quickly it will grow as it uses Javascript to do the programming. That means lots of programmers can jump in from the get go.
I like Monero for anonymous transactions (and as a store of value). I'm hedged with Dash but I don't think Dash has any where nears the security level and that is dangerous.

I think one that might sneak up on people, as this space is a baby, is Hyper. It is a gaming coin. The gaming market is huge and having a coin available to gamers is probably going to go places over time.

Many mini black swans on the way fellas. And since they are extremely difficult to spot, spread your risk...

Its about sharing
368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: March 23, 2016, 07:57:41 PM
That article is interesting regarding Ethereums price and how it can help fund the company for quite a few years.
I would imagine companies invested and investing into Ethereum know this, so perhaps they are "funding" Ethereum
so to speak by buying the Ether, with this intention...
369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ether price? on: March 23, 2016, 07:47:56 PM
The volume that came into Ethereum was HUGE. IMO this is semi-bigger money moving in.
Since the BTC price didn't reflect the Ethereum rise, I'm guessing it's holders of BTC buying in but those holders can be some companies in the space that bought BTC offline, or mined, etc.
Not sure what is going on. Logically I'd say the price can't be sustained at these levels but if the demand is there (and it is holding a while now), it can stay, even go up.

Understand this space is new and TINY. For all we know big money is moving in and buying up Ether cause they know something we don't...
370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 23, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
Good job devs, thank you for your hard work.  I went and bought more Monero after the successful fork.

Thank you Primer as well for supporting the network.  You are earning your pay and we appreciate it.  Monero is real money and we believe in free markets, so you are free to do anything you want with your Moneros that you get for this service you provide us.  Your selling them actually helps the community to grow by distributing coins and keeping prices reasonable for others to buy in.


Most of those who were borrowing my coins to short have covered now sadly.  Still a few open, and the .5 to .9% interest is amazing.  I have decided I will not lend at .1% anymore, my minimum now is .5%, and I will only lend some there, the rest will be at 1% or higher.  I had some coins lent at .1% when it spiked up ,and as a result I wasnt able to get them out on loan at much higher rates.  Its better to loan at 1% for a couple days than it is to loan at .1% for a couple weeks.  We should all do this as it increases our Monero income and creates buying pressure, as shorts must buy to pay interest.

This community is top notch and very skilled.  Not having a GUI for almost 2 years was a great choice, it attracted the technical gurus to the community while keeping Monero away from the get rich quick people, while the devs worked to continuously improve Monero.





Curious, is this a taxed thing? Since it is in Crypto and paid in Crypto, it needn't be claimed on taxes?

They are free monero.  When I eventually sell them I'll pay taxes.

That was my understanding since they never touch USD. Excuse my math but what is the return on .5% over 1 month for X Monero? (Maybe a cumulative calculator link? lol)
371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 23, 2016, 07:05:06 PM
Good job devs, thank you for your hard work.  I went and bought more Monero after the successful fork.

Thank you Primer as well for supporting the network.  You are earning your pay and we appreciate it.  Monero is real money and we believe in free markets, so you are free to do anything you want with your Moneros that you get for this service you provide us.  Your selling them actually helps the community to grow by distributing coins and keeping prices reasonable for others to buy in.


Most of those who were borrowing my coins to short have covered now sadly.  Still a few open, and the .5 to .9% interest is amazing.  I have decided I will not lend at .1% anymore, my minimum now is .5%, and I will only lend some there, the rest will be at 1% or higher.  I had some coins lent at .1% when it spiked up ,and as a result I wasnt able to get them out on loan at much higher rates.  Its better to loan at 1% for a couple days than it is to loan at .1% for a couple weeks.  We should all do this as it increases our Monero income and creates buying pressure, as shorts must buy to pay interest.

This community is top notch and very skilled.  Not having a GUI for almost 2 years was a great choice, it attracted the technical gurus to the community while keeping Monero away from the get rich quick people, while the devs worked to continuously improve Monero.





Curious, is this a taxed thing? Since it is in Crypto and paid in Crypto, it needn't be claimed on taxes?
372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 23, 2016, 04:34:00 PM
anyone have the latest trezor binaries for monero? 

https://forum.getmonero.org/4/academic-and-technical/2495/experimental-trezor-firmware-testing

The Dropbox links on this page give me an error.

"Error (429)
This account's links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!"

Interesting question.
Do you or anyone know if it is an ok security practice to use the same Trezor for both BTC and Monero?
373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 21, 2016, 09:16:57 PM
This coin needs some promotion or a killer app, being only anon worked before but now it needs something new. Its undervalued despite how good it is.. The best crypto note project.

look at top 20 marketcap, imagine for a second you wanna move partially away from BTC and search another STORE OF VALUE type Blockchain, then go through the options ,..., no killer app needed

Well said. Monero does what no other anonymous coins can do and
I do mean ALL of them. Once we have the GUI wallet, I think we will
probably cross the .01 threshod within months. And I am not sure
dash will be able to maintain its price then.
374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LISK price speculation on: March 21, 2016, 07:07:26 PM
That means that any companies wanting to integrate dapps now can do so with just your run of the mill Javascript programmer. Quite a cost savings.

What makes a dapp superior to an app in the context of a single company?

Not sure on single companies vs. larger conglomerates.
In general, the answer is probably found by looking at what Dapps are:
https://github.com/DavidJohnstonCEO/DecentralizedApplications/blob/master/README.md
Anyone, please jump in here.

IAS
375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LISK price speculation on: March 21, 2016, 05:26:40 PM
Great potential in LISK, uses Java that is 1000X more accessible than Eth. Programmers will all choose to dev for LISK instead of ETH due to ease

Obviously you don't have a clue.  Java is not the same thing as JavaScript.  Lisk allows dApps to be built in JavaScript, which again is not Java.  Do you know how to code?  Lisk is a complete clone of Crypti.  Even their websites are identical.  Hope you didn't invest too much.  It's like buying stock in Tesla because you think it's a hydrodgen fueled car.  You're clueless.  That's why Lisk will crash and burn, because people have no idea.  

Ethereum has solidity, which allows people to use JavaScript.  Lisk has zero advantages over Ethereum.  Zero.

Yeah, I made the same mistake regarding Java. The point being though, that Javascript is much more prevalent than Ethereums proprietary language. Not that that is such a bad thing mind you but any developer can develop dapps for LISK. This makes things really accessible. This means all those coders ALL OVER THE WORLD can develop for LISK from the get go. That means that any companies wanting to integrate dapps now can do so with just your run of the mill Javascript programmer. Quite a cost savings.

And LISK has some pretty big partners, not sure how much Crypti tech went into it, but obviously the huge volume of BTC that went in, some in HUGE blocks, means this is most like a lot more than Crypti.

Let's see what this amounts to...
376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LISK price speculation on: March 20, 2016, 06:20:26 PM
Buying 2btc worth of LISK @ 2000 satoshis

PM for details, escrow required

LOL, can you be more obvious? You first post that investors are looking at a loss and then offer to by it back???
Try to hide your tracks a bit better next time, maybe 2 different identities.
377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 20, 2016, 02:12:25 PM
Wow, 10,000 + BTC raised in a short period of time.
Like I said in the LISK price speculation thread, it is really worth noting that LISK code is going to be in Java and that means there are lots and lots of coders who can just jump right on board.
LISK might really sneak up on the corporate world because of this. Lots and lots of use cases that can be implemented from early on.

Um, for about the 10th time, Lisk is based on JavaScript, not Java.  These are two completely different code languages.

Are you sure they are really different?


lol, just a mistake. My point still stands.
378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 20, 2016, 02:10:52 PM
Wow, 10,000 + BTC raised in a short period of time.
Like I said in the LISK price speculation thread, it is really worth noting that LISK code is going to be in Java and that means there are lots and lots of coders who can just jump right on board.
LISK might really sneak up on the corporate world because of this. Lots and lots of use cases that can be implemented from early on.

Its about sharing

"Like I said in the LISK price speculation thread" - Where is that?

Click on my name and look at my last posts!
379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 20, 2016, 01:32:23 PM
Wow, 10,000 + BTC raised in a short period of time.
Like I said in the LISK price speculation thread, it is really worth noting that LISK code is going to be in Java and that means there are lots and lots of coders who can just jump right on board.
LISK might really sneak up on the corporate world because of this. Lots and lots of use cases that can be implemented from early on.

Its about sharing
380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LISK price speculation on: March 20, 2016, 01:29:09 PM
It will be interesting to see if the Javascript based coding to be done on LISK floods the market with LISK apps.
Ethereum seems very strong, but using Javascript might be a game changer as there are soooo many coders who can jump right in.
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