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381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2018, 03:13:39 AM

Finalise whales, buy alts on way down

Trezor Legacy address complete implementation x 6

Exchange diversity increase, mix cryptopia/wex/bittrex

Asset exchange strategy to implement btc/gold btc/silver btc/tax btc/utilities btc/real estate

Monitor TA and FA for the event


In the end everyone will lose something
Hits from everywhere


Diversity is the only success


FYI coinking







382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2018, 09:15:03 PM
Roger has literally funded the most BTC and BCH startups and charity related crypto donations, hypothetically if Roger was a thief, he's Robin Hood.

Yes we know Roger PAID PEOPLE OFF, they will be dealt with too, you all know who you are



All these bcash shills on the board and Roger supporters








Time to release all the information, no more games, (sick f$%ks playing with peoples lives) +++

I will give 5 10 bitcoin to anyone who gets Roger Ver to return all cryptsy and mtgox users coins.

Crime: Misleading the public on multiple occasions with his multiple projects advising users that they were safe and OK to use


Roger Ver the SOCIALIST

http://voluntaryist.com/tag/roger-ver-how-i-became-a-voluntaryist/
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 15, 2018, 08:46:49 PM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would Roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would Roger help in the big block debate
Who would Roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investigation
Who did Roger know from Liberty Reserve Scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.
What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.
.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...
I agree, Have you got anything?
Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes
Yes and what point.  
this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time

Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.
https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072
Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter
Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance
Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.
Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/

Remember i am not here to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.

Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/
“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.
...."Dr Craig S Wright Verified account @ProfFaustus Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....

They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)
It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War
liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig

‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.
..."another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though."...
Time for what? with the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.

for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack

Everything you wanted to find on Roger
Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom

http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/

so with all your posting here you cannot post the link or the relevant info for the people to review?
The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  
Interesting how you post links to stuff that is from left field like what e. snowden said regarding digital money users being followed yet you cannot make your point when it comes to roger.  I think you have a peculiar definition of fraud that is shared by no one with any type of brainpower.
I personally think you are attempting to keep people from learning about the real bitcoin [BCH] and therefore are more of a fraud then roger ever will be.  Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??
Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators.
Thanks for the tip

..."Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company"... (Does not mean you need to help them hide the evidence)
In my world view, when you have knowledge of a crime, you send it to the authorities

The Bitcoin Foundation’s Flawed Membership Structure
TBF was formed in September 2012 by Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, Patrick Murck, Peter Vessenes, Roger Ver, Charles Schrem and Mark Karpeles.  (hmmmm all the crims)
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-brock-pierce-controversy/
And ask Roger about Brock and his connection to the Clinton Foundation
How much bitcoin went to Hillary
Future proves past
And you..please...
STFU  Cheesy..
go create a new thread..."i got rogered" and tell everyone where you got hurt... Tongue
Grin Grin Grin No
"You all got rogered"
I doin fine, Just helpin the crypto community
if we all did, then why are you saying it here?
as i said...make a thread and show everything you have, in a nice tidy thread where info you give can be accessed easily.
This is Bitcoin cash thread...and if your gembitz its bti thread lols....
its not a thread for giving personal opinions on any individuals.
Thank you

I like all the connections in one spot they look rather damaging do they not?






One more for all you bcashers

Craig Wright - Bcash King


either way, we won't know the truth. at least for us it will remain a mystery, as it concerns the personal safety of Satoshi Nakomoto. Just imagine, if the world knew the identity of the founder, he would be put on international wanted list in many countries, all because our world is full of greedy and evil people.
but I still hold the view that our administrator theymos knows the identity of this person, and perhaps he is part of the Satoshi team. Despite this, I think that this person will be a long time to thank, as many users have already done. Smiley
Satoshi Nakamoto

This is completely irrelevant in this instance as;
Dave Kleiman is now deceased.

Craig Wright has already asserted himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto and is re-asserting BCH as the main BTC chain.

I, myself have nothing to lose in this regard, if I can help seek truth and justice then I will. TBH I would quite like to get some of my hard earned 'money' back myself! Grand larceny is a crime.
Most importantly, there are people like you who are willing to fight for justice and truth. After all, we all know that the power is in the truth. I'm certainly powerless to help you, but I would be very happy if you could get justice in this matter.

Here, here! Thank you.

For the record, logs I have are stored in multiple locations and I have also made sure that people who I can assume to trust in the Bitcoin space know my identity.


Shall we take a road down Bitinstant Roger?
 Shocked they just keep piling up


No MtGOX is better...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4SCAw264qM
Luv the video Roger
Roger Ver 6-8 months before mtgox's shutdown:
"they look good to me I looked at their internal records and all is fine here...I support mtgox and mark"
Loooooooooool
Looool nice.

How about Cryptsy
Marshall F$%kin Long
..."The same could be said about Roger Ver and Mark Vernon (who is now staying in the Philippines). They both have a lot more coins than I do, fiat and bits."...

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/mark-vernon#section-overview



I will give 5 bitcoin to anyone who can get Roger to return all coins to all cryptsy and mtgox users.


Roger has literally funded the most BTC and BCH startups and charity related crypto donations, hypothetically if Roger was a thief, he's Robin Hood.


Yes we know Roger PAID PEOPLE OFF, they will be dealt with too, you all know who you are

Roger Ver the SOCIALIST
http://voluntaryist.com/tag/roger-ver-how-i-became-a-voluntaryist/


All these bcash shills on the board and Roger supporters







Time to release all the information, no more games, (sick f$%ks playing with peoples lives) +++

I will give 5 10 bitcoin to anyone who gets Roger Ver to return all cryptsy and mtgox users coins.

Crime: Misleading the public on multiple occasions with his multiple projects advising users that they were safe and OK to use


384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2018, 12:18:27 PM
All these bcash shills on the board









Time to release all the information, no more games, (sick f$%ks playing with peoples lives) +++



I will give 5 bitcoin to anyone who gets Roger Ver to return all cryptsy and mtgox users coins.

Crime: Misleading the public on multiple occasions with his multiple projects advising users that they were safe and OK to use


Oh the history  Shocked
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 15, 2018, 11:46:17 AM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would Roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would Roger help in the big block debate
Who would Roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investigation
Who did Roger know from Liberty Reserve Scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.
What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.
.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...
I agree, Have you got anything?
Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes
Yes and what point.  
this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time

Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.
https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072
Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter
Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance
Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.
Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/

Remember i am not here to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.

Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/
“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.
...."Dr Craig S Wright Verified account @ProfFaustus Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....

They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)
It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War
liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig

‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.
..."another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though."...
Time for what? with the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.

for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack

Everything you wanted to find on Roger
Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom

http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/

so with all your posting here you cannot post the link or the relevant info for the people to review?
The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  
Interesting how you post links to stuff that is from left field like what e. snowden said regarding digital money users being followed yet you cannot make your point when it comes to roger.  I think you have a peculiar definition of fraud that is shared by no one with any type of brainpower.
I personally think you are attempting to keep people from learning about the real bitcoin [BCH] and therefore are more of a fraud then roger ever will be.  Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??
Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators.
Thanks for the tip

..."Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company"... (Does not mean you need to help them hide the evidence)
In my world view, when you have knowledge of a crime, you send it to the authorities

The Bitcoin Foundation’s Flawed Membership Structure
TBF was formed in September 2012 by Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, Patrick Murck, Peter Vessenes, Roger Ver, Charles Schrem and Mark Karpeles.  (hmmmm all the crims)
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-brock-pierce-controversy/
And ask Roger about Brock and his connection to the Clinton Foundation
How much bitcoin went to Hillary
Future proves past
And you..please...
STFU  Cheesy..
go create a new thread..."i got rogered" and tell everyone where you got hurt... Tongue
Grin Grin Grin No
"You all got rogered"
I doin fine, Just helpin the crypto community
if we all did, then why are you saying it here?
as i said...make a thread and show everything you have, in a nice tidy thread where info you give can be accessed easily.
This is Bitcoin cash thread...and if your gembitz its bti thread lols....
its not a thread for giving personal opinions on any individuals.
Thank you

I like all the connections in one spot they look rather damaging do they not?






One more for all you bcashers

Craig Wright - Bcash King


either way, we won't know the truth. at least for us it will remain a mystery, as it concerns the personal safety of Satoshi Nakomoto. Just imagine, if the world knew the identity of the founder, he would be put on international wanted list in many countries, all because our world is full of greedy and evil people.
but I still hold the view that our administrator theymos knows the identity of this person, and perhaps he is part of the Satoshi team. Despite this, I think that this person will be a long time to thank, as many users have already done. Smiley
Satoshi Nakamoto

This is completely irrelevant in this instance as;
Dave Kleiman is now deceased.

Craig Wright has already asserted himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto and is re-asserting BCH as the main BTC chain.

I, myself have nothing to lose in this regard, if I can help seek truth and justice then I will. TBH I would quite like to get some of my hard earned 'money' back myself! Grand larceny is a crime.
Most importantly, there are people like you who are willing to fight for justice and truth. After all, we all know that the power is in the truth. I'm certainly powerless to help you, but I would be very happy if you could get justice in this matter.

Here, here! Thank you.

For the record, logs I have are stored in multiple locations and I have also made sure that people who I can assume to trust in the Bitcoin space know my identity.


Shall we take a road down Bitinstant Roger?
 Shocked they just keep piling up


No MtGOX is better...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4SCAw264qM
Luv the video Roger
Roger Ver 6-8 months before mtgox's shutdown:
"they look good to me I looked at their internal records and all is fine here...I support mtgox and mark"
Loooooooooool
Looool nice.


How about Cryptsy

Marshall F$%kin Long






I will give 5 bitcoin to anyone who can get Roger to return all coins to all cryptsy and mtgox users.


386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 15, 2018, 11:25:19 AM
Bitcoin is the most successful of all fork coins and is Bitcoin's biggest competitor.

I agree
I disagree. BTC is a fork of the original BTC making it the most successful fork lol

No no no

The Bitcoin BTC is the original fork whilst making the BTC Blockchain the most successful  Grin Grin Grin
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 15, 2018, 11:15:04 AM
Bitcoin is the most successful of all fork coins and is Bitcoin's biggest competitor.

I agree
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2018, 09:59:33 AM



More than that, trade deals that stole from nations globally

Benghazi trade deal that resulted in deaths

Trade deals hidden in Clinton emails


citizen after citizen globally subjected to an insurmountable amount of debt whilst all the wealth went somewhere else...

Outright lies by Rosenstain (who was offered evidence) about Seth Rich, DNC hack and his death.


389  Other / Politics & Society / Split from main thread Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: July 15, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
I agree I haven't read anything yet to indicate his nom won't get through.

I wonder how much influence Kavanaugh's apparent dislike of the EPA had on Trump.

I get concerned when in 2018 people are talking about Roe v Wade and taking away the decision of a women on what the fuck to do with her own body.  Frankly speaking it disgusts me to see people want to take away a person choice.  Safe, educated legal abortion being under attack in 2018 is mind boggling to me, but I guess that's the liberal in me coming out as I get older!

I can't see Kavanaugh's stance on Roe v Wade but he does come across as a bit of a conservative, along with a nod from a stong anti abortion POTUS, I can see why some Americans might be concerned.

His nomination will go through because of him being a Bush/ Romney / any other establishment Republican pick. It's the reason that Trump picked him, as he knows that he'll be able to get through the hearings and the confirmation and that the courts will lean conservative for decades to come.

The thing with Roe V Wade isn't taking away the decision of a women to do whatever they want with their body, it's giving the states the ability to decide (through the people, as they are the ones who are electing their state reps/assemblypeople) to decide if they want abortion to be legal within their state. I personally don't think the Federal government has any ability to decide what the states should govern on this, let the people decide on a state by state basis.

While many people hated Scalia for his decisions on certain things, I do think that how he explained his opposition to Roe V Wade - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_MhS2u-Pk -- Check that out there.

Americans will be concerned of course, but abortion is (and will always be) a very contentious issue in the United States.

decentralization of the nations law to allow communities to decide on laws that govern them directly


Direct Democracy

luvin it



390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2018, 07:13:42 AM


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-14/bitcoiners-slam-calls-crypto-crackdown-after-latest-russia-probe-indictments


Rod Rosenstain corrupt  Grin Grin Grin Grin  idiot
391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2018, 01:57:54 AM
Do some of you people get paid to post here?  It's the same retards who can't shut the fuck up.  Stop posting, find a hobby.

Reddit's circlejerkign hugbox is probably better than reading the same three posters ITT

You could read a wall of text and how Bcash is connected to every scam in the last 10 years
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0






but please stick around it gets better

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg42135486#msg42135486

The wall observer had a great debate on then and than
392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune on: July 15, 2018, 01:44:12 AM
From:
Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus (twitter.com)
- https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1018249107083874304

" You don't use keys to prove identity. Keys only prove access to keys. I find it remarkable how many so called security "experts" fail at this most basic of points.

A cryptographic key cannot prove identity. It only proves knowledge of the key and that is distinct from identity. "


...

True, but ... https://youtu.be/hl1nPssCL1E and https://youtu.be/lhMV37a7xmY

So, still ... Not your keys. Not your coins. (or just no access yet?!?).


Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10

The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.

Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.

People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.




Yep Satoshi is back to kill his own blockchain  Huh Shocked Shocked Grin
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 15, 2018, 01:12:33 AM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.
What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.
.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...
I agree
Have you got anything?
Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes
Yes and what point.  
this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time

Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.
https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072
Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter
Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance
Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.
Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/
Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.
Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/
“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.
...."Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....

They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)
It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War
liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig
‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.
With the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.

for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack

Everything you wanted to find on Roger
Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom

http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/


so with all your posting here you cannot post the link or the relevant info for the people to review?
The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  
Interesting how you post links to stuff that is from left field like what e. snowden said regarding digital money users being followed yet you cannot make your point when it comes to roger.  I think you have a peculiar definition of fraud that is shared by no one with any type of brainpower.
I personally think you are attempting to keep people from learning about the real bitcoin [BCH] and therefore are more of a fraud then roger ever will be.  Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??

Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators.

Thanks for the tip
Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company (Does not mean you need to help them hide the evidence)
In my world view, when you have knowledge of a crime, you send it to the authorities
The Bitcoin Foundation’s Flawed Membership Structure
TBF was formed in September 2012 by Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, Patrick Murck, Peter Vessenes, Roger Ver, Charles Schrem and Mark Karpeles.  (hmmmm all the crims)
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-brock-pierce-controversy/
And ask Roger about Brock and his connection to the Clinton Foundation
How much bitcoin went to Hillary
Future proves past
And you..please...
STFU  Cheesy..
go create a new thread..."i got rogered" and tell everyone where you got hurt... Tongue
Grin Grin Grin
No
"You all got rogered"
I doin fine
Just helpin the crypto community
if we all did, then why are you saying it here?
as i said...make a thread and show everything you have, in a nice tidy thread where info you give can be accessed easily.
This is Bitcoin cash thread...and if your gembitz its bti thread lols....
its not a thread for giving personal opinions on any individuals.
Thank you

I like all the connections in one spot they look rather damaging do they not?






One more for all you bcashers

Craig Wright Bcash King


either way, we won't know the truth. at least for us it will remain a mystery, as it concerns the personal safety of Satoshi Nakomoto. Just imagine, if the world knew the identity of the founder, he would be put on international wanted list in many countries, all because our world is full of greedy and evil people.
but I still hold the view that our administrator theymos knows the identity of this person, and perhaps he is part of the Satoshi team. Despite this, I think that this person will be a long time to thank, as many users have already done. Smiley
Satoshi Nakamoto

This is completely irrelevant in this instance as;
Dave Kleiman is now deceased.

Craig Wright has already asserted himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto and is re-asserting BCH as the main BTC chain.

I, myself have nothing to lose in this regard, if I can help seek truth and justice then I will. TBH I would quite like to get some of my hard earned 'money' back myself! Grand larceny is a crime.
Most importantly, there are people like you who are willing to fight for justice and truth. After all, we all know that the power is in the truth. I'm certainly powerless to help you, but I would be very happy if you could get justice in this matter.

Here, here! Thank you.

For the record, logs I have are stored in multiple locations and I have also made sure that people who I can assume to trust in the Bitcoin space know my identity.



394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 15, 2018, 01:04:03 AM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.
What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.
.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...
I agree
Have you got anything?
Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes
Yes and what point.  
this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time

Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.
https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072
Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter
Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance
Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.
Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/
Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.
Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/
“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.
...."Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....

They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)
It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War
liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig
‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.
With the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.

for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack

Everything you wanted to find on Roger
Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom

http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/


so with all your posting here you cannot post the link or the relevant info for the people to review?
The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  
Interesting how you post links to stuff that is from left field like what e. snowden said regarding digital money users being followed yet you cannot make your point when it comes to roger.  I think you have a peculiar definition of fraud that is shared by no one with any type of brainpower.
I personally think you are attempting to keep people from learning about the real bitcoin [BCH] and therefore are more of a fraud then roger ever will be.  Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??

Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators.

Thanks for the tip
Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company (Does not mean you need to help them hide the evidence)
In my world view, when you have knowledge of a crime, you send it to the authorities
The Bitcoin Foundation’s Flawed Membership Structure
TBF was formed in September 2012 by Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, Patrick Murck, Peter Vessenes, Roger Ver, Charles Schrem and Mark Karpeles.  (hmmmm all the crims)
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-brock-pierce-controversy/
And ask Roger about Brock and his connection to the Clinton Foundation
How much bitcoin went to Hillary
Future proves past
And you..please...
STFU  Cheesy..
go create a new thread..."i got rogered" and tell everyone where you got hurt... Tongue
Grin Grin Grin
No
"You all got rogered"
I doin fine
Just helpin the crypto community
if we all did, then why are you saying it here?
as i said...make a thread and show everything you have, in a nice tidy thread where info you give can be accessed easily.
This is Bitcoin cash thread...and if your gembitz its bti thread lols....
its not a thread for giving personal opinions on any individuals.
Thank you


I like all the connections in one spot they look rather damaging do they not?



395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 15, 2018, 12:52:22 AM



And you..please...
STFU  Cheesy..
go create a new thread..."i got rogered" and tell everyone where you got hurt... Tongue


 Grin Grin Grin

No
"You all got rogered"

I doin fine

Just helpin the crypto community
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 15, 2018, 12:35:56 AM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.

What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.

.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...

I agree

Have you got anything?

Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes

Yes and what point.  



this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time



Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.

https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072

Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter

Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance

Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.

Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/


Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.

Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/

“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.

...."Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....


They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)

It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War

liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig

‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.

With the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.


for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack


Everything you wanted to find on Roger

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all




Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom


http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/




so with all your posting here you cannot post the link or the relevant info for the people to review?

The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  

Interesting how you post links to stuff that is from left field like what e. snowden said regarding digital money users being followed yet you cannot make your point when it comes to roger.  I think you have a peculiar definition of fraud that is shared by no one with any type of brainpower.

I personally think you are attempting to keep people from learning about the real bitcoin [BCH] and therefore are more of a fraud then roger ever will be.  Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??

Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators.

Thanks for the tip

Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company (Does not mean you need to help them hide the evidence)

In my world view, when you have knowledge of a crime, you send it to the authorities



The Bitcoin Foundation’s Flawed Membership Structure

TBF was formed in September 2012 by Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, Patrick Murck, Peter Vessenes, Roger Ver, Charles Schrem and Mark Karpeles.  (hmmmm all the crims)

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-brock-pierce-controversy/


And ask Roger about Brock and his connection to the Clinton Foundation

How much bitcoin went to Hillary

Future proves past

397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 14, 2018, 10:49:43 PM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.

What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.

.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...

I agree

Have you got anything?

Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes

Yes and what point.  



this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time



Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.

https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072

Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter

Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance

Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.

Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/


Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.

Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/

“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.

...."Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....


They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)

It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War

liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig

‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.

With the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.


for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack


Everything you wanted to find on Roger

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all




Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom


http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/


398  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm leaving Bitcoin on: July 14, 2018, 10:42:29 PM
To all the newbies posting in this thread,  IT IS FROM 2012!!!!!
Don't post here unless you know the details and history of what went on, so that those of us who actually care about the Bitcoinica debacle can keep up with the thread.

Thank you for not posting additional fluff in this thread!

I know the details, whats with the post, dont want people to know your past

Roger

Thanks to Zhou Tong, its all out in the open

Good person lives close by.
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 14, 2018, 09:56:28 PM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.

What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.

.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...

I agree

Have you got anything?

Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes

Yes and what point.  



this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time



Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.

https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072

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We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter

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Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance

Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.

Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/


Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.

Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/

“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.

Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.



Yeah Its Time Roger



...."Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10

The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.

Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.

People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....




They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well

Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)


It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War

liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig


‘It’s time roger’?

Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.


Stay away from the door knob Roger

With the millions I made, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.

400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk on: July 14, 2018, 09:42:03 PM
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Kleiman

... "According to Craig Wright, Kleiman lost money due to US government seizing of Costa Rica-based Bitcoin exchange called Liberty Reserve leading to Kleiman's poverty. " ...
- Metro, Friday 6 Apr 2018 12:28 pm
- http://metro.co.uk/2018/04/06/alleged-bitcoin-creator-craig-satoshi-nakamoto-wright-reveals-secrets-rare-interview-7444418/

...

Here is a link to a thread regarding my old / original exchange service 'BitcoinFX' ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1822045.msg18151407#msg18151407

Now. Does anyone find it just a little bit odd that my website does not feature anywhere in any of the Bitcoin history time lines? Despite references to my service being originally made via the bitcointalk.org forum.

Realize that I myself lost a lot of totally legally earned money (via retail forex trading and some advertising revenues) when LR was shut down and users funds were confiscated by the US government - personal / business account funds which I myself also intended to move back into BTC ...

Something really stinks here folks! Obviously!



Really Stinks


...."Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10

The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.

Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.

People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....




They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal

Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)


It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War
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