Less than 10 minutes with Zerotime from wallet to Polo: it's fast, but not revolutionary. However I keep holding, because I think this one has the potential to go to at least 10M marketcap. Can't wait for the next weeks.
Seriously, isn't anyone feeling insulted by his profile pic?? I'm a Muslim and I feel insulted.. I don't know what I am looking at but if it breaks the avatar guidelines then it is a mod issue. Not sure we need to hash it out in this thread. If you are inclined then pm me (mostly for curiousity) and/or a mod...-thumbsup- |
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@john-connor-afk Yes ZeroTime merge had to be completed for the two chinese exchanges to be able to compile the daemon. Cheers, I am off. |
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Less than 10 minutes with Zerotime from wallet to Polo: it's fast, but not revolutionary. However I keep holding, because I think this one has the potential to go to at least 10M marketcap. Can't wait for the next weeks.
It's possible that Polo and Bittrex haven't updated yet... |
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I would like to download the wallet, but when I click the link, I get a Please wait... message, and the download never starts...
Downloads are working fine here, maybe you could try with an other navigator. Don't forget that if you do download the wallet today that it will need to be updated at sometime within the next week (I suspect sooner rather than later) when ZT is live. |
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Due to this being an instant transfer coin, and anon to boot.
When will zero road be starting up? Or is it vanilla road?
You sure this is an anon coin? maybe I missed something? Future plans, not anon now. Although has random ports now so less noticeable? My bad I thought zero time made it more or less anon. Guess I will have to be satisfied with secure and instant. This was always meant to be a long term project. Scalability and Zero Time were the first priorities. From the ANN - John announced the DarkPP Project ( https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/610492180713598976). Description of the project (taken from https://github.com/john-connor/darkpp): A framework for building or extending decentralized DarkNet applications. Dark++ is a DarkNet, a term originally coined in the 1970s to designate networks which were isolated from ARPANET(which evolved into the Internet) for security purposes, darknets were able to receive data from ARPANET but had addresses which did not appear in the network lists and would not answer pings or other inquiries. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet_(networking) Dark++ is also a C++ based Web ready framework for building new or furthering existing DarkNet applications. Darknet's MAY be used for various reasons, such as: To better protect privacy from targeted and Mass surveillance Protecting dissidents from political reprisal Bypassing censorship mechanisms Crypto-Currency Mixing, Joining, Shuffling and Ring Signatures Whistleblowing and News Leaks Decentralized Chat, Voice and Video Decentralized File sharing and Gaming More regarding the Dark++ project will be announced in Q3 2015. http://dark.io/ |
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Have people forgotten about Dark++?
There is no way that the current price is reflective of true value here...
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He didn't get a bitcoin core dev. He got a friend of his who is knowledgable. Considering that CryptoClub is a huge proponent of HZ and has been a part of that community from close to the beginning, I am presuming he got someone from that project to take a look.
He further promised a report (like he was/is an authority able to delegate like that) and that never happened.
His words have nothing to do with the project anyway and discussing his uninvited and perhaps presumptious talking points is an exercise in 'wheel spinning'.
My two cents.
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Dear smooth I'm sure you wanted to post this on some other thread, right? Or you are so confused so you don't know where you need to post and what you want to say so you must quote other guys? Anyway, do you know how or are you capable to take our bounty money cause this thread is all about that. No? Then move on, go back to your thread and help your community with fork problems. I don't think that was called for... I don't agree with an assessment based on a January post but I don't think he is confused. |
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This does not make any sense. After talking to John "Who says I am anonymous" Conner, I have sold. I went to trouble to get someone to code review, and there is fake code? It was embarrassing, and I don't even grasp why anyone would do that. This might be the most amazing coin ever, but with him being anon and not wanting anyone else on the team, and being manic depressive, or autistic, or something, it will make things very difficult. Maybe he is a true genius, but these are very bad decisions and they cast too much reasonable doubt about the project. Why would he get more attention after he wasted people's time? That isn't how the world works.
Did you really just diagnose the dev as autistic because you took the initiative to show your friend (Nick Cote?) the code a few months ago and are feeling embarrassed because things didn't pan out the way you wanted it to? Your projections are your embarrassment. FPGA mine that... Edit to add - Regardless of your feelings on how things have occurred, calling out mental illness on someone you know not at all and who is capable of doing something that you aren't is bullshit. |
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Personal bias is not a factor in his dismissal of the technology. He gave his opinion based on precise and valid technical arguments, which can be evaluated on their own merit.
I tentatively disagree and at the risk of garnering his wrath further I would like to present the context for my snide comment (yes, it was kind of snide and if I could take it back I would. I don't understand computer science like he does but I am also not illiterate.) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12118600#msg12118600He is claiming to doom Monero and Bitcoin and if that is the case (he is dotting his eyes in a proper manner so props) than there is a personal bias - meaning I don't blame him for not wanting to spend his time with an (apparently) underwhelming bounty (how does one simulate a global context?). So I acquiesce to an extent...it was a snide comment but based on his own posts and my own bias. Fair enough. I admit to being aware of the issues presented but not versed enough to actually debate it... I understand that this post is probably going to be crunched and so be it...I have a job and am not only working with PhD's in my respective field (cognitive neuropsychology; cue laughter, it is fine) but think that this is more of a hobby than my livelihood. That said, we do pick up our interests and focuses as we do...especially in a diluted communicative base that is this forum. What is a factor in his unwillingness to do pentesting (if the current testnet even counts as valid pentesting) for VNL is the fact that $2100 is not even close to enough to pay for his time, much less acquiring other resources for an attack.
Increase the bounty a lot and (again assuming the testnet is a valid test) you may have qualified people interested. You should also of course not be paying such a bounty in VNL, as was pointed out earlier on this thread. Otherwise it is little more than cheap trash talk, which only makes the coin look even more like a scam.
Again, not sure how to simulate a global interest for a bounty to be large enough. People do not understand that the goal here is not to make something it secure against attackers with <$2100 of resources. It is to make something secure against attackers with large to enormous resources, in the case where the coin is highly successful (which is the only case that really matters). At least that should be the goal. If you are instead trying to orchestrate a pump-and-dump (even a relatively slow and elaborate one, where perhaps you feel even if you aren't the ringleader, you can ride his coattails and dump at a profit to a greater fool), then your goals are quite different.
My goals are very different and they roughly mesh with crypto currencies. More social than economic and I won't suffer a rats cheese if BTC fails..or any other crypto. I find it interesting though... Which leads me to a short response to 'The Powers That Be Need War'...Of course they do. That's the point. Fuck it up if you can. I'm going back to topics I know more about... |
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How about we stop with the dick measuring contest bullshit and try and double spend it, come back with proof and you get not just the $$$ but also kudos and respect
Why would I waste my time with $2100 (denominted in VNL which means it would shrink towards $0 before the bounty would be received) when I have this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12118600#msg12118600People who can't think deserve to lose their money. That is the last I will say on this matter. It is up you the reader to be a fool or not. So personal bias is a factor in your dismissal? Noted and good luck with your ventures... |
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why would a dev post a fake whitepaper / code? fudding his own project? its been bothering me since i read that.
I think there is a reason but it involves some empathy in order to logically understand. We know he has been working on it for a long time, a year prior to launch. Personally, I think he would have waited even longer if there wasn't a modicum of excitement and/or a need to start testing his code with an operating blockchain in real time. Keep in mind, a ton of basic work went into his project before he even revealed that ZT was a thing...months. Further, considering the more or less common knowledge that he is a 20 year vet within the P2P field, the decision to embark on this project as a full time job probably was made with much consideration. Involved in that consideration was a knowledge of what the altcoin community is like. Think about it for a second. This is a terrible community. Scams are everywhere, collaboration is close to 'not so much', scam devs are copying code and releasing new coins with promises in order to get the first 'spike pump' and then leave, and most of the threads in the altcoin community are peppered with inane BS that no sane person would tolerate in a normal social forum. Chances are, he is very well aware of how toxic some aspects of the altcoin community are and has every intention of releasing material...but if it isn't ready then it isn't ready. Further, providing misinformation, or mystery, is potentially a valid way to gain information on the community that he is working in tandem with. I use the phrase 'in tandem' very loosely because the interaction is necessary but there is no real collaboration between devs and speculators. It is an important distinction to make... Jump into IRC and communicate with him - he talks every day. If he says the white paper is coming with actual math (he posted a paragraph a few days ago) then it is coming. He started this project wanting no hype and went months without it. Very productive months. It sounds fishy because you are used to a crypto alt scene that is fishy - I'm sure he thinks the same thing. The thing is, he has delivered everything he has promised and then some. Some of you seem to forget that he just released the bitstream for FPGA...do you have any idea what that means and how many other devs have done that (None)? Be patient and see what happens... Edit to add - I like the VNL community and aspects of other communities...but to be honest, there is no stopping people from muscling their internet posts. Tis the reason why I referred to it as terrible. Valid disclaimer and one that should be met with reflection rather than indignation... |
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Clearly the success of altcoins no longer indicates elegance of coding or functionality. Just a select few chosen by crypto gangsters to have a high marketcap.
It took the internet fifty years from invention to economic/social integration (and it changed the landscape considerably). In crypto terms, we still have a few weeks...  |
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The original name was going to be 'LibCoin' but John found that it was taken already. The decision to call it Vanillacoin was made to keep it in line with the reasoning to call it lib... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_software |
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It's just traders...or mining or something. John invented FPGA mining...or is everyone forgetting that he did that among others things?
God dammit...
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Let's keep this thread civil and refrain from rejoicing over trouble of other coins. Let's not draw first blood so to speak.
To be fair, this comment was in response to people talking about DRK. The lame comment from the other dev showed up after that post and had nothing to do with the context. That said, last I checked, no one from their community picked it up and ran with it in that thread either - it was just posted to twitter. Lameness is lame but if it doesn't have legs than it is truly lame...my two cents. |
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hey every vnl tweet you do be sure to put @dashpay on the end lol let them feal our wrath
I don't agree with that but I did lol... Seriously. Don't do that. |
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Congratulations. Does this tech work? Not buying at these prices, but it might be a good signal once bottomed out again.
 we are in price discovery, it will continue to rise till around a 5~mill market cap before hitting any resistance. * ZeroTime instant transaction testing available to public in ~1 day* BitSat - the giant tech company has lined up a meeting with the vanillacoin developer - sensitive information (do not tell john connor i said this  ) * Dark++ - A framework for building or extending decentralized DarkNet applications - full information due any day now. * mammoth chinese exchange btc38.com have shown great interest in the addition of vanillacoin * chinese exchange 1szb.com are in the proccess of adding vanillacoin. * In addition to all this - we are due for the next 4month roadmap any day now. * In further addition, john is sneaky, he likes to pull random surprises on us (like ZeroTime) and may or may not drop it on us right now. * all this built up pressure, we are going to rise hard. is she going to drop? unlikely. we will see a rise to 100k sat, then perhaps a pullback to ~90k before a dash style rise are you going to drop when you realized you missed out on a lifetime of wealth? most likely.This from Chomp Story? I feel either this is an ironic troll or...an ironic troll. Disclaimer - Irony is a varied definition these days, colloquially speaking. |
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Net hashrate is about 5Ths. Does it mean, that FPGA's minning period has started for good?
Real hashrate is around 1.45 TH/s. There are no large hidden pools currently. Add up suprnova and idcray to get the hashrate. Net hashrate is based on difficulty, which fluctuates wildly. If blocks are found too quickly, difficulty spikes. Kind of a waste to throw that much hash at it, they are just going to be spinning wheels eventually. That's the point. |
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speed does not really matter as much as privacy and security. people would rather prefer to pay securely and privately than quickly. im waiting for darkpp until then il be selling to buy back on the dump let see how high it goes before it happens
It's not just about fast transactions - it's about very strong fundamentals across the board. Developed for a year before release and developed mostly under the radar for the past eight months. VNL is all about the fundamentals and building upon them in my opinion. There is so much going on with this coin I would direct you to the OP rather than list it in this post. Cheers! |
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