Pre-orders that were good ideas:
- Avalon Batch 1
- Early Jalapenos
- Avalon batch 2
Bad ideas:
- pretty much anything else from BFL
- Avalon batch 3
- probably Avalon chips, but too early to tell
Early Jalapenos were a terrible idea. People took 20 BTC worth of currency and spent it to wait 11 months and get 8 BTC back from mining. |
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Chips be like "We got top men working on us!"  Customs be like " Top men" |
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Nice of Josh to pop in and make a stupid comment YET AGAIN. I just hope you do that in your lunch break and not when you should be making the miners that we have paid you to make.
What do you actually do for your company? I can`t believe PR is your only responsibility.
He is the one who makes sure that BFL has all the parts needed to assemble product. You know, the guy who didn't realize that Singles needed power supplies, or MOSFETs, or boards to put the chips in. He got the fans AND boxes though! |
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It would be 592,800 Gh, 593 Th, or 0.6Ph at 282mh/s a chip.
Why would they be running at 282mh/s? I did mix up PH/s and TH/s, though. The current network hashrate is 370TH/s, so it would still be twice the current hashrate. Obviously, they could not currently be hashing. Not all of them no. However ,those chips have been available to orders in China for weeks now (no customs to go through). It is safe to assume that a lot of them have shown up in the hash rate. |
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gps tracking a bitcoin miner? this is a bit ridiculous isnt it?
No, the prices of ASIC miners is what is ridiculous. Kano and I finally agree on something. |
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You have shoes older than me? Did you steal them from your daddy? From the way you write, I'd put you at about 15 or 16. Prove me wrong. Show your work. And by Show your Work, I mean try to write a post that isn't full of juvenile stupidity. Good luck, I'm betting you'll need it.
Once again, Inaba dodges the question as to why BFL is only shipping a few dozen units a day. Inaba will not state for the record how many units have shipped, nor will he state how many units they have to go. This dodge coincides with a BFL video that shows the largest pile of boxes at about 4 dozen (they probably skipped a day or two of shipping to get a big pile for the cameras). At this rate the BFL backlog will extend past September, they still have 85% of their backlog to work through after 4 months of shipping. Meanwhile: 100TH/s came online in the last 10 days time. Avalon batch 3 is coming online. 120TH/s of Avalon chips are sitting in customs. Difficulty is at 50 million. Inaba has no work to show, except for this: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. |
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Based on what I've read, you self test for FCC compliance. You do not file something with the FCC. The FCC can request from your company a copy of your testing. If they find that you're in violation, they can have you stop shipping out products or fine you (Or both). BFL doesn't have to file anything with the FCC unless that is requested of them.
So I think you're banging your drum about a situation that doesn't exist. You'd basically have to prove to the FCC that BFL is in non-compliance, they'd have to request from BFL the testing results, and then if they are incorrect, then maybe they'd fine them until they are compliant.
Everyone with a non-compliant machine gets to fix it themselves, because the FCC requires the OPERATOR to fix the device, not the manufacturer. So if you manage to prove that your device isn't compliant, you also get to not use it any more unless you can fix it so it is compliant.
The point isn't whether BFL is compelled to get FCC certification. The point is that BFL boasted that they were "two weeks" from getting it back in November of 2012. Phineas is just reminding BFL of their promises, and of the fact that BFL was boasting about a certifying product that could not possibly have existed at that time (given what we know now). |
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You can't cancel your order at this point for a refund, they just denied my request.
Don't give up. Call Paypal and explain how BFL is violating the Paypal Terms of Service. I will do that, I already filed a report with the FTC too. The point I was trying to make is that you will not get the refund from BFL. Paypal, the FTC or my credit card issuer will have to. If they were an upstanding business they would have immediately processed my refund request. According to the law, a sale is only a sale if you actually received your merchandise. Respond back to BFL that you don't wish to cancel a sale, that you wish to cancel an order. If you like, you can say the reason is because the sale never took place because you never received your product.  BFL is sneaky saying all sales are final. While true, it does not apply to you. |
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I don't understand why you people constantly bash this company. Cancel the order, get a refund if you don't like it. At least you can do that. Is that right? That's really good news for a lot of people. Would that it were true, a lot of the posts, even in this thread, would not be made. What method of payments cannot get refunds (not counting BTC and Bank Wires)? All methods can get refunds. It will depend on your method of payment as to how you go about getting one. First step is always ask BFL for a refund. If they have not shipped your product, they are legally obligated to refund your money if you ask for it. If they refuse, the second step is always to fill a complaint with the FTC so they know BFL is violating the law. If you paid by BTC or Bank Wire, you can either press forward with the FTC through their claims division, or you can retain a lawyer and go after BFL directly. If you paid by PayPal you can file a dispute with them (if they close it, call them and tell them you have been scammed). If you paid via CC, you can initiate a charge back if Paypal drags their feet. |
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These are also terrible cases and yet 600GH/s   |
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Who's deploying then? The network hashrate seems to be going up in lockstep with the amount of hashrate we are shipping out, give or take a slight deviation.
I know some forum members who probably aren't on the same page as you, and I'm sure there are plenty more of these out there. That is almost 600GH/s in that picture. |
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i called paypal and i took them 2 min to issue me my refund i got back over 12k on 3 orders.
Good to hear. |
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BFL has bigger things to worry about than people who can do math adding up the shipped hash rate and realizing that BFL is not shipping much.
BFL got subpoenaed a few days ago by a regulator.
The Kansas AG is investigating BFL.
PayPal is pissed at BFL.
The FTC is investigating BFL.
The KC police department is investigating BFL.
Even Sonny's probation officer is sniffing around his latest investment scam.
Now that pre-orders are drying up, Josh is back trying to milk the last few dollars out of bitcointalk.
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Who's deploying then? The network hashrate seems to be going up in lockstep with the amount of hashrate we are shipping out, give or take a slight deviation.
This from someone who is afraid to say how many units overall they ship. People who ordered Avalon chips delivered in China reported getting their shipments a couple of weeks ago. Batch 3 has arrived in the states and hit China quite some time ago. ASICminer has been deploying more hashrate and selling hardware. There isn't more than 10TH/s coming out of BFL this month given the rest of the deployments. Less if Bitfury is actually beta testing. |
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According to http://bfl.ptz.ro/Jalapeno: 3575 ordered, 788 shipped, 2787 remaining, 22.04% fulfilled. Little single: 1230 ordered, 87 shipped, 1143 shipped, 7.07% fulfilled. Single: 2678 ordered, 233 shipped, 2445 remaining, 8.70% fulfilled. Mini rig: 185 ordered, 25 shipped (to Josh), 160 remaining, 13.51% fulfilled. My guess is that the fulfilment rate is reaaaaally overstated since sales went out of the community more and more with the massive ad campaign BFL had earlier. Care to correct these numbers Josh? Don't be shy! If BFL had solid numbers to report, they would. They have never been shy about broadcasting good things about their operations. |
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Could someone list for me the milestones and performance targets that KNC has missed?
I seem to have misplaced my "list".
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Wait until the ASIC price war starts. Then buy hookers and beer.
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no... BFL is not located in NY - NY the state has jurisdiction within its borders.
noone on this forum seems to understand jurisdiction. it's like AsicMiner getting a subpeona from him. does it make sense?
i mean they can ask nicely after all- subpeona is not asking nicely
New York is a big economy. Would your company want to risk being denied the ability to do business there? Also NY and CA tend to work in lockstep. If NY starts finding anything, you can be sure that CA will start looking too. CA's economy is larger than many countires. Texas is the largest economy in the US, 3rd largest economy in the world (or something like that). Texas has a big economy, it's third behind California and NY. It's 14th in the world if comparing the state against other countries. Texas residents don't fare too well, though, ranking 25th among US states, which earns TX the "impoverished" state qualifier for their below-average earnings per capita. And they are running out of water too: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/aug/11/texas-tragedy-ample-oil-no-water |
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no... BFL is not located in NY - NY the state has jurisdiction within its borders.
noone on this forum seems to understand jurisdiction. it's like AsicMiner getting a subpeona from him. does it make sense?
i mean they can ask nicely after all- subpeona is not asking nicely
The DFS has very broad powers to investigate and regulate. Since every major bank on the planet has large sums of money flowing through New York, most financial institutions are subject to the reach of the DFS (Standard Chartered found this out and capitulated). If they find a company committing a fraud using Bitcoin, the DFS can go after them through their bank and refer the case to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution. Texas is the largest economy in the US, 3rd largest economy in the world (or something like that).
Second largest, California is almost half again as big. Texas would be the 15th largest in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDPhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Texashttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_between_U.S._states_and_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) |
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