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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinChoose - alternative site to show respective profitability of the alt coins on: June 10, 2013, 03:15:53 PM
I usually use coinchoose and like it a lot. Accidentally I saw Feathercoin is on 340% on coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency !

Why is FTC missing from coinchoose?
422  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 09, 2013, 08:38:58 PM

You have the constitution to post that you play the role of an asshole here on Bitcointalk.org to keep threads on top to have more attention brought to your website and in turn you get more pre-orders.

Do you even have a conscience or able to sympathize with people around you? Does everything in your life a goal to further yours. Do you even understand this or do you just make excuses for your self to make it bearable.

I could not live that way. Most people can't either.  

You just perfectly described a "Psychopath".

"Psychopathy is a personality or mental disorder characterized partly by antisocial behavior, a diminished capacity for remorse, and poor behavioral controls. ...

Psychopathy Checklist-Revised: Factors, Facets, and Items:
- Pathological lying
- Grandiose sense of self-worth
- Cunning/manipulative
- Lack of remorse or guilt
- Emotionally shallow
- Callous/lack of empathy
- Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
- Criminal versatility
- Parasitic lifestyle
- Lack of realistic, long-term goals
- Irresponsibility
..."
423  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 09, 2013, 08:00:07 AM
Lies, upon lies, upon lies. I never deleted or edited 1 single post here, or anywhere else.

I provided evidence that you
- delete your old posting
- dox forum users.

I on the other hand asked you several times to provide evidence for your outrageous accusations (" ...You tried to cancel orders that weren't yours, you tried to get refunds for orders that weren't yours. ..."). Your reply: Silence.


Now you come complaining that I rednosed a picture of you ...

Can you even read? I didn't complain about the photos/rednosing - I complained about your lies.
This is what I wrote: "I don't mind that you put photos online - but at least don't lie about it and don't deny your doxing attempts".

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... that was floating on the forum already ...

It was floating around because you've been the one that put it online. Of course you deleted the evidence (oh no, in your twisted reality the evil moderators did it).


Slok, all I want to say to you is this: Like attracts like. A shady company like BFL attracts shady, psychopathic fanboys like yourself.

I have provided enough evidence to proof that you are lying.

I'm not gonna waste any more time on you.
424  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 08, 2013, 10:13:14 PM
The sig, you asked that many times, obviously annoys you, that's the pay I get for it!

You are sick Slok, you know that?


True, because you did. You bolstered that you tracked down my identity / doxed me [note: after me posting on BFLs Facebook page as 'Frizz Supertramp' ... you must be a real mastermind. not]. And you wrote that you sent messages to all my Facebook contacts and warned them about me.


So show me where I did that what you accuse me of, the red part, behavior that I detest btw.

Slok, you quite frequently delete old messages to destroy evidence (very lame bahavior imho). I should have made a screenshot when you bolstered contacting my Facebook contacts - but I did not know back then what a coward you are.

Wanna have an example? Here:

Cool! Pictures! How is that BFL refund coming along, Supertramp?
...
author=SLok link=topic=150803.msg2174566#msg2174566 date=1368746560

msg2174566 was yours - now it's gone.



But it seems you feel more save on BFL forums - and feel less need to delete your postings.

Like this one here, your continuous doxing efforts:






You also forgot to delete one of your postings on Bitcointalk. I don't mind that you put photos online - but at least don't lie about it and don't deny your doxing attempts:


 



Believe what you will, I say he lies, ...

So who's the liar now?

And now I ask you again: Please provide some evidence four your outrageous accusation:

You tried to cancel orders that weren't yours, you tried to get refunds for orders that weren't yours.
You pretended being a customer that had his orders lost, being refused a refund after requesting for it, you post pulled out of context BFL statements and bend them to your will, you make up accusations with falsified facts, dates and figures.

425  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 08, 2013, 07:01:30 PM
Slok, your postings are, as usual, full of half-truths - and blatant lies.

Frizz23, aka Frizz Supertramp, you have over 50 accounts under different names here, ...

I did open quite a few accounts over the past few months - not on Bitcointalk, but on BFL forums. Because as soon I post some inconvenient facts my messages get censored & my account gets deleted. Game of cat and mouse. I hope I saved at least some poor souls from falling for their "Order Now" & "in 14 days from now" scam.


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... your poll is a fraud, because I'm sure you used the lot to vote "yes".

And I am sure a lot of you BFL shills voted "no" with all your fake accounts. So what? I'd be quite happy if one of the Mods could publish a list of all the users that participated in that poll.


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You tried to cancel orders that weren't yours, you tried to get refunds for orders that weren't yours.
You pretended being a customer that had his orders lost, being refused a refund after requesting for it, you post pulled out of context BFL statements and bend them to your will, you make up accusations with falsified facts, dates and figures.

Blatant lies. IMHO you see a "Frizz" in each and every "suspicious" account - and blame it all on me. Paranoid much?

I challenge you: Provide some evidence for your accusations. If you prefer to continue this dispute publicly, feel free to do so. But please open a new thread for it - because the topic of this one is whether or not BFL should get a scammer tag.

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You even accused me of harassing your family, falsely.

True, because you did. You bolstered that you tracked down my identity / doxed me [note: after me posting on BFLs Facebook page as 'Frizz Supertramp' ... you must be a real mastermind. not]. And you wrote that you sent messages to all my Facebook contacts and warned them about me.

Quite some psychopathic behavior if I may say so.

By the way: What to think of someone with a signature like yours:

Mentally disordered fanboy? Or paid shill ...
426  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 08, 2013, 11:38:53 AM
Care to explain?
Sure. In order for the scammer tag to have any value at all, people need to see that we only use it in the absolute clearest of cases. When someone sees a scammer tag, they will then know that they shouldn't even try trading with that person. If we used the scammer tag in this case, 22% of the forum would believe that a scammer tag has no value and would ignore it in the future.


22% is almost 1/4.
Almost 1/4 is the number of eligible voters that voted for Barak Obama.
Almost 1/4 was enough to give Obama the "President of the United States of America" tag.
Quote Maged: "22% of the forum world would believe that a scammer president tag has no value and would ignore it in the future.

So yes, Maged, I understand where your twisted logic comes ...  Wink
Not.
427  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 07, 2013, 08:30:45 PM
Stop blaming the moderators for other peoples stupidity, ...

We didn't. All we did was ask the moderators to give them a scammer tag.

553 users voted yes, 154 voted no so far.

A 78% majority is quite a strong message one might think.
22% against giving them the scammer tag is an even stronger message.

Care to explain?


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Again, the majority does not make these decisions.

The majority has already made this decision. And you chose to ignore it.

With due respect, but you don't own this community. You are merely hosting it. The community can chose another host at any time.

428  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 07, 2013, 12:45:21 PM
Stop blaming the moderators for other peoples stupidity, ...

We didn't. All we did was ask the moderators to give them a scammer tag.

553 users voted yes, 154 voted no so far.

A 78% majority is quite a strong message one might think.
429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Them BFL Cowboys on: June 07, 2013, 08:14:51 AM


What's up with this mischievousness?

This poor customer waited almost 12 month.

Every other company would have said something like: "We are very sorry that you had to wait 12 months! But your order goes into production at this very moment! Would you prefer if we ship it?".

BFL is such an asshole company.
430  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL creates new charity project to donate 1000 BTC to [ROFL!] on: June 06, 2013, 11:57:47 AM
Guys! You are way to negative!

Look at the comments on Butterfly Labs forum. Their shills BFL staff faithful customers are quite happy with BFLs "charity project":




Why not donate a coin or two? To the "More hookers for Sonny & Josh" charity fund:

431  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: June 04, 2013, 08:14:35 PM
I haven't given up hope... but I also don't have the investment in hardware that others do. I purchased a 4.5GH/s miner (Think it was a Jalapeno, could be wrong) back in March, and it is supposed to be shipped in June... but I'm past the point of really caring, so honestly if it shows up by Christmas, I'll be happy.

"There's a sucker born every minute".  A sucker that doesn't care about $150.

I am really thinking about creating my own business where I take pre-order money for a Perpetual motion device. Do you guys think $150 is too much? Should I charge more like $49? What is the limit for your carelessness?
432  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 04, 2013, 08:07:58 PM
This is a forum, not a police station. Or a nursery for that matter.

A forum, yes. The biggest Bitcoin forum there is. And because of this we do have some sort of responsibility.

Bitcoin continuously takes hits because of scumbags. Giving a Scammer tag to scumbags shows the community: "It is not OK with us!".
433  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: June 04, 2013, 01:47:41 PM
Would have been awesome if someone asked if he could bfgminer with it, since he is waiting for his own and wants everything ready. Any good company would have said: Here is your usb cable, you have 45 seconds.

And this is how Josh/BFL handle such situations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y&t=2m48s
434  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 04, 2013, 01:30:55 PM
No, they will not receive a scammer tag over the matter of their ASICs being late until several months go by with no progress. Stop asking.

No one asks to give BFL a Scammer tag for being late. Shits happens.

But that's not the point here. And you know that.

Constantly stringing people along with false promises - and blatant lies - is what qualifies for a Scammer tag. Shady business tactics is what qualifies for a Scammer tag.

Those 500 people that voted to give BFL a Scammer tag surely didn't do that solely based on the fact that BFL is late. And you know that.

Ignoring those people is a slap in the face of this community.

435  Economy / Scam Accusations / Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 03, 2013, 10:48:34 AM
Hello Theymos, Hello Mods,

we all know the drama that unfolded around Butterfly Labs (BFL) - and we all have our opinion about that.

Almost 80 percent of the forum members think it’s time to give BFL the Scammer tag.

Currently 503 out of 640 members voted "Yes, Butterfly Labs (BFL) should get a Scammer tag": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155730.0

I hereby ask you to respect the voice of the community and give BFL, BFL_Sonny, BFL_Josh and Inaba the Scammer tag.

BFL_Sonny only made one single post here, but also the others have been inactive since quite some time (BFL since Jan 2013 and BFL_Josh since October 2012).

Only Inaba is very active on Bitcointalk. Therefore it is most important to give him the Scammer tag.

To a priori invalidate that argument that "Inaba" is a private account that is not affiliated with BFL I would like to allege the following reasons:
1) Inaba (Josh Zerlan) uses this account in 99 percent of his postings to discuss matters regarding BFL.
2) Inaba, as official BFL company spokesman, hides behind this account so that he can’t be held responsible for spreading inaccurate information (at best) - or blatant lies. He furthermore uses this account to insult, ridicule and offend BFL customers and members of this community.
3) Josh/BFL uses the Inaba account to bid for BFL Ads placed on Bitcointalk.

I think it is the duty of this community to warn new members from falling for a company that places Ads (since months!) with "order now" all over the place when in fact they can’t fill those orders.

I think it’s time to to call a spade a spade.

Regards,
Frizz
436  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: June 02, 2013, 02:46:49 PM
The scam goes into the next round: Now they start selling their chips. In 100 days (plus "two weeks" © Josh Zerlan / Inaba).
437  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Ars Technica working on a piece on BFL on: June 01, 2013, 05:19:41 PM
Here's my take.

If any article is written without mentioning the Laissez Faire Connection, then it'll be a bias article.

Maybe you can give Cyrus a quick briefing on the Laissez Faire Connection?
438  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: June 01, 2013, 08:10:32 AM
God has just revealed to me that BFL will deliver its products at Christ's Second Coming. So rest assured my brothers the day of Deliverance is near! Wink

You talking about this Christ?

Chris T. Vleisides
9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114; (or)
2507 Jefferson St., Kansas City, MO 64108;

 Wink
439  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BFL_Josh/Inaba/Josh Zerlan caught in lie about his identity on: May 31, 2013, 10:19:50 PM
In short: Inaba has got an official permit to use second account. Purposely.

Thing is, he doesn't use his second account.

BFL_Josh:   Last Active: January 11, 2013, 08:16:28 AM
Inaba:        Last Active: Today at 09:56:16 PM

5 month a not a single post from BFL_Josh. But lots of posts from Inaba.

Does that mean all his announcements, timelines, comments, explanations - and blatant lies - regarding BFL are just unofficial jabbering?
440  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: May 31, 2013, 10:08:34 PM

Just figured I would quote that page before they took it down lol.

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... YES.  It's really that fast. Let's review our track record once again.  Our most recent release was the Mini Rig.  It's performance exceeded spec by more than 1 GH/s in speed while consuming 100W less in power draw.
Promised:    25.2 GH/s     1,250W
Delivered:     26.4 GH/s     1,141W
Our one blemish in spec estimate was with our original product.


Incredible indeed! They fucked up their old product as bad as they fucked up their new product (ASICS) - yet they still dare to twist numbers so that it looks as if they had over delivered.

Fact is: They promised 1GH/s per 1 Watt. But their units ended up consuming 4-5 times more power than originally predicted/promised.

Another quote from this page: "Although there are always issues during development, our team is highly experienced in exactly this field and we're currently ahead of our original timeline."

Highly experienced? I'd say: Total fail! I've never seen so much incompetence at one place! BFL outsourced everything. From ASIC design to chip manufacturing. In which area exactly are you "highly experienced"? Only in the area of scamming people of their hard earned money!

"Ahead of our original timeline"? You fuckers promised to deliver in October 2012. Now it's June 2013 and 99,99% of us are still waiting for the products that we paid for fully upfront almost a year ago!
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