Received my first Block Erupter and I am really impressed, thanks Friedcat!
It's amazingly small and super easy to setup compared to any GPU.
I bet these will be collectors items 20 years from now!
I'm setting mine to solo-mine and hopping I'll win the lotto some day:)
Collectors items..... Bwahahahahaha. More likely showcased in the investors hall of shame. |
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 So this is the last official word. All orders up until 7/7/13 done by the end of September. Yet again, the quote you use says "I expect". Never once has there been said '"We 100% absolutely positively will" yet that is how you are treating it. |
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So you plugged a 120V item into a 220V line and something went poof?
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Ya rly!  Now, if you could STEAL a ton of USB miners, and run a power cord to your neighbors' house, so your investment in hardware and electricity was zero, then yes you could make a profit with them. So there's your plan. Find out where Butterfly Labs is located, scope the place out, and grab a few boxes of USB miners and RUN!!!!! Great plan... except... BFL don't make the USB miners, ASICMiner does. |
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Remember: "Prediction is difficult, especially about the future". 1.5 per month is based on real data of the last 30 days of mining, not based on assumptions and estimations, so no I am not smoking. Updated the description: Last 30 days profit: 1.5 BTC. Current profitability: 0.0285 BTC per day. 3 posts, of which 2 are to sell stuff? Sure...
Right, I should write very consistent posts (but not to sell stuff) like yours instead. You should take your snake oil and peddle it elsewhere. 1) If you made 1.5 BTC in the last month off of 3.33GH, I'll eat my hat. 2) http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/fde3962eb2 'nuff said 3) Making your 1st non-newb post a shady looking sale = 90+% chance it's a scam 4) Even your "current profitability" is WRONG! With no difficulty increase, .59BTC per month will be earned. That's LESS than .02BTC per day. Your statement is 40% too high. 5) 30 days ago, the difficulty was 37M. With no increase 37M would only earn 1.36BTC. Give up while you're behind dude. |
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I'm ready to pay 1btc for 10 BE
I'm still ready to pay .1BTC for 10 |
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The kit includes everything to start mining autonomously, you just need to plug it in!
At current difficulty (Sep 2013), it mines about 1.5 to 2 bitcoins a month.
1.5 Bitcoins per month revenue? What are you smoking? At 86933017.7712 current difficulty they make .6BTC per month ONLY if difficulty never increases! BUYER BEWARE! |
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10 USB Block Erupter (3.3 GH/s) for 1.99 BTC!
https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/56682-10-usb-block-erupter-3-3-gh-sEach ASIC USB miner, manufactured by ASICMiner, will allow you to mine Bitcoins at a rate of 333MH/s per device with a power usage of 2.5WA. At current difficulty level (Sep 2013), the pack of 10 keys at 3330 MH/s mines about 1.5 bitcoins per month. I am selling these erupters from various discounts I have with USB Block Erupters resellers. The devices are new and ship within 2 days after I receive payment. 1.5 Bitcoins per month revenue? What are you smoking? At 86933017.7712 current difficulty they only make .06BTC per month BUYER BEWARE! |
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Hey folks.
I understand that the first people to get the best miners can make a lot of profit, but as more competition comes on to the market, obviously difficulty goes up and the hardware depreciates/captures a smaller piece of the pie. On the flipside, theres probably not many average bitcoin loving joes who bother to mine, and even less who have the required capital to buy the best miners.
Therefore is it worth it to just buy the best and take a gamble that no better miners will be released?
The mining equipment market is very saturated with pre-orders at the moment, and the prices today are virtually guaranteed not to make a positive RoI in comparision to buying and holding BTC. I'd suggest you buy BTC for now and watch the mining equipment manufacturers for the next 4-6 months and see which ones excel and which ones fall to the wayside. Buying equipment at this moment in time means you are gambling that you can get it fast enough to benefit you. The downside to this is all of the other people who have invested as much or more than you that have been happily mining away from the last several weeks to several months or will soon be happily mining away on their delivered pre-orders. Some of the 'potential' miners that may or may not become available in the future are down under $10/GH. In 6 months time, when this insane growth has tapered off and only something like quantum computing could cause a repeat, would be the time to evaluate what is available and whether the cost vs return is more worthwhile than holding the BTC you invested in. The current trending indicates you may need $1-3/GH(or less) to be profitable. Do not buy now is the best advice to follow. |
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Hi Lucko Just been reading some of the early posts, Your very early estimate for a 4 chip board was "under $200" If you compare your estimates with the early BFL estimates, then your figure, of around $500 for a 16 chip board, then you are still on track to beat BFL again. Their estimates always went up and take longer. Your estimates go down and the product arrives quicker. All we need now is 70+ Gh/s from 16 chips and we all win again. BFL must be very unhappy that a private group can produce a better product.  Why would they be unhappy? You're vindicating their work by using their chips. Besides, what did your group do? All of the hard work has already been done. Your private group did none of the R&D, they will just take chips and boards and put them together and then ship them. Heck, a trained monkey could do that. |
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0.5BTC/Gh/s in October?
Might be a fun toy ~1btc, but anyone paying 100BTC would be taking a huge risk in their ability to resell them for a profit, and they certainly wouldn't be very worthwhile to use in a big mining op.
ASICMINER has already Fucked people over 4 times and counting with their USB sticks... I think the suckers are getting wise... They haven't fucked anyone over. they gave you a price and you paid it. They are the ONLY ones who have been relyable for delivery. They can't save you from your buying practices. When the Playstation 3 first came out how much was it? How many price decreases has their been? You want it first you pay a premium. As time goes on and sales drop they adjusted the price accordingly. I couldn't agree more. You can't blame anyone but yourself for a bad decision YOU made. I never bought any, so I made no bad decisions. |
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It seems like memory corruption, the most annoying kind of bug. Might take some time to fix, I haven't been able to reproduce it on my computer.
This is a serious problem that may not have a fix. I have a GPU that I still have running on SHA256 because it starts throwing massive errors if I try to use the same intensity on scrypt coins. I don't think this is a GPU error, but rather an error in the CPU code somewhere. The reason I brought it up is that several people had memory problems on relatively new cards and one of the posters explained about the tolerances of GDDR5 memory used in GPUs as compared to the DDR3 used in computers. http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=17598 is the initial discussion. In answer to the question of "Why is GPU memory weaker than RAM?" was: That is normal for video cards. I already commented this few times, the video cards industry is the only one (from all the electronic related branches) which accepts memories with "some percent" of unstable or bad bits. That is to be able to make cheap cards for people as you an me, and it is accepted because your eyes will make no difference (and even with specialized instruments is difficult to see) between a pixel on the screen which is Green-126 and one which is Green-127. Your monitor even has only 18 physical "wires" (6 for each of Red, Green, and Blue) through which the color is transmitted, so it CAN'T show more then 2^18=262144 colors, and your eyes may see more then 4000 only if you are professional photographer or painter (or woman, hehe, my wife always tells me that I only see 16 colors, and indeed, for me "peach" is a fruit, not a color, and "rose" is a flower). So, displaying 24-bit color or even 32-bit color is just because old processors use a full byte for each r/g/b, or because new processors can operate faster on 32-bit registers. But from 8 bits of red, only 6 most significant go to the monitor. When you use your monitor in 16 bits mode, there are 5 lines of red and blue, and 6 of green (as the human eye is more sensitive to green), the rest of the "bits" of the color is "wasted" anyhow (physically, the lines are not connected to the LCD controllers, I am not talking about serialization, LVDS, and other stuff used by your card to send signals to your monitor, I am only talking what's happening at the LCD controller level).
That is why a Tesla C/M2090 is 4-6 time the price of gtx580, there is no difference between them except the ECC memory and intensive production testing for endurance.
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One possible remedy postulated is downclocking the memory. |
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In my reading I see talk of 110nm, 65nm, 55nm and 28nm chips. Has anyone made up a chart of all the different sized chips and the speeds they operate at?
I've also been trying to understand the complexity... ie: is it easier to make a 333MH 65nm chip as compared to a 4GH 65nm chip? Is it cheaper? Since more lower clocked chips are needed for the same output, in bulk terms can you get 12x 333MH speed chips for less than 1x 4GH ones?
Some companies are going to underclocked chips to save power, is this more economical than redesigning the chips to meet power requirements?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
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One of the assembled K64s, that I am trying to get running. Individual K16s are working with less than 1% error rate. There is some issue with I2C (board to board) communication, that I am hoping to iron out by tonight.
What's connecting the boards together? I see an orange, yellow and green(blue?) wire connecting the 2 lower boards along with lots of red and black power wires, but they aren't connected to the 2 upper boards unless you've hidden wires on the back of the PCB to tangle into the fans. Probably working on getting it hashing with 2 boards...before 3/4 +, while you are online TH can you tell us if your chip order was updated? That would be the prudent thing to do, I was just confused as it said the pics was an assembled K64, which I took to mean completed. |
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There is already a thread on it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277901.0The problem isn't what they promise. The problem is when will you get what you were promised. Last summer, BFL made a promise to deliver hashing hardware in the fall that sounded like an amazing deal. They still haven't delivered that hardware over a year later. You would be wise to pick a company that can actually deliver product without year long delays. Which company can? Bitfury seems to be the best current choice. |
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One of the assembled K64s, that I am trying to get running. Individual K16s are working with less than 1% error rate. There is some issue with I2C (board to board) communication, that I am hoping to iron out by tonight.  What's connecting the boards together? I see an orange, yellow and green(blue?) wire connecting the 2 lower boards along with lots of red and black power wires, but they aren't connected to the 2 upper boards unless you've hidden wires on the back of the PCB to tangle into the fans. |
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And my ignore list grows.
Figures. Why say "We don't know how many shipped" which is the truth when we can make the company look bad and say "See! nothing shipped! The dates didn't change!". Trolls cannot abide by the truth, they must paint things as negatively as possible or people MIGHT learn something. You prefer your blindfold and I prefer my eyes to be open. Enjoy your ignorant bliss. |
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could that be these mining HW companies secretly mining from customer HW ?
This has only been debunked about 50 times in the past, but hey, it COULD happen, right?  ? The OP really needs to be changed to "Who would benefit the MOST from being part of the 20% unknowns?" Your answer would then become the people who have enough hashing power to make more money from blocks found than they could from a pool. Found blocks reward success. Pools reward effort. On BTCGuild, #1 has 16,982,444,648 shares and 2176 found blocks. 7,804,432 paid shares per found block. #2 has 5,647,070,017 and 379 found blocks. 14,899,920 paid shares per found block. #2 is getting paid for almost 2x as many shares as #1 is for each block they find. Maybe #1 is an altruist and likes everyone to get a share. <shrug> |
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Let's be reasonable. It will take another 6 months or so before it hits 1 billion diff.
You may very well be correct, I even hope you ARE correct, but if you look at who is getting ready to ship what, you'll see that 6 months is unreasonable. I'd count us lucky if it takes until the end of January. It all depends on how many companies are BFLing us. |
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Wednesday, September 4, 2013 Shipping Update
by BFL_Jody , 09-04-2013 at 11:06 PM
Jalapenos 4.5 and 5 gh/s: Feb 12-14, 2013 no Jallys shipped today
Little Singles 30 and 25 gh/s: Nov. 6, 2012 one day of orders
Singles 60 and 50 gh/s: July 31, 2012 pay date four days of orders
MiniRigs: All June orders (2nd 500gh/s unit), all July orders 1st 500 gh/s none shipped
August 1st for 1st 500 g/s units
25 days to go
You should edit the minirigs to "none APPEARED to have shipped" Since you have no proof for your statement. How about "Status same as yesterday" (like it matters) Since you don't care for honesty, none of it matters. |
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