If he has enough coinage for that price to cover every possible requirement then more power to him. Wish I was in that position too. That might not be the case.

If I could afford to divest when it's nice and quiet I would. I hate to think how seized everything would be in the depths of another bubble.

Bitcoin itself and any non custodial wallet is of course completely agnostic. A buyer, seller or third party platform facilitating a trade is not.

I'm sure there are many, many rent seekers looking for a hole to expand. This may be one of the prime ones they're exploring.


That would be extremely intriguing to observe. A price based on a market that most people can't or won't access won't make any sense for any real world usage when there's a likely bigger one in the real world.

All I have to say is that anyone who sells for $15,000 and leaves thinking they're a genius had better not come back here and haunt us with foam from their hurt butt flying all over the place. But they most likely will.

I've said it multiple times, but I'll say it again - the regular inability on display here of people to conceive the true scale of things beyond their present perception is going to do them some damage unless they open it up.

Well, there's a couple of contrarian views at least.

If a cycle between now and a future full on bear market can't manage the previous ATH or only managed 50% above it that would be genuinely bizarre and match no behaviour in the known universe. There will be more people and more money entering via more channels at a time when fewer coins are being made and existing owners believe in it more than ever so won't let go without some serious temptations dangled in front of them.

Though I'm not a fervent believer in guaranteed telephone numbers I'm starting to lean towards the opposite more and more for the next few years.

When saturation has occurred and it's fully installed in the lives of people then things will level off in a significant way, but for now there's an ever increasing amount of money and people looking to secure a slowly decreasing amount of coins. And those who currently own coins are finding fewer reasons to let go of them all the time.

Smells like headroom to me.

What most really should bill themselves as is non custodial which is very important too but I doubt they think it looks as impressive.

For true decentralisation they need to leave domain names and hosting behind and switch to something on chain. Even then since most wallets are running off someone else's node you still might have sticky moments.

Hey, if you still have time to cover your arse and look cool no matter what then why wouldn't you?

Not sure I've seen anyone mention 500 grand as a target and if it did manage it in the next couple of years the fallout would so grotesque I would prefer it didn't happen.

I'm not much of a one for top calls myself. I only think it'll be more out there than most dare to imagine, either to the upside or the disappointing opposite.

Interesting. Looks like it would take someone many more years to do it or may never happen at all. If I remember rightly there are very few applications to be a merit source from anyone alt oriented. I've no idea if there's enough to merit in there but it could do with a few heavyweights just in case.

Unless you're a bank robber or kidnapper, or forger, worrying about bank notes is not something that anyone will ever have to be concerned about at any point in their entire life.

When a bitcoin's entire history can pop out in a few milliseconds that's a bit more of a thing.

That's not an insult directed to anyone. It's a straightforward factoid. If one is in that particular club the merit will flow far more than other places where relationships aren't as close or reciprocal.

Legendary purely from altcoins would be a very significant achievement since so little merit flies around on that board. You'd have to be ten times more compelling than someone who posts tit gags in the wall observer thread.

Not to my knowledge.

As long as Roger Ver retains a hand in it it's unlikely to happen unless their numbers fall away big time. You can do your bit by telling them you won't use them until they pull their fingers out of their sphincter.

There may a bunch of back end work they'd need to do that they can't be bothered to do. Not sure and not arsed. Almost anything else is a better alternative anyway.

I expect between now and the snapshot date alts will have moments when they pump harder. There could be a completely separate alt run as there was in early 2017 where BTC did effectively nothing and everything else went mad. The snapshot is very well timed to catch it.

If the opportunity arises to dump the lot for a healthy amount pre snapshot I'm going to take it. XEM will go back to sleep forever apart from the occasional twitch or be dragged along from the ride in a generalised mania. XYM has the double problem of being new and arising from something that has suffered from eternal invisibility.

It could do wonderfully and I hope it does. I'm kinda past caring now.

It's never had a tech problem. It has always had a perception problem, or near complete lack thereof.

I guess it depends on which tiers emerge if this ever become a thing. There may be 'investment grade' which never leaves its custodians, then there'll be active mode which moves through exchanges and payment processors but will be easy to fall out of favour with, and then there'll be fuckhead mode which is for druggists and nonces and everyone else.

If none of them can interact with each other the whole thing is going to become a crippled mess, but I expect someone to get a brutal schooling before it gains a foothold.

Once they're 'in the system' that's where they'll stay. These high level types will want to buy and sell to each other inside it without any odious little people scrabbling around below them and infecting them.

So Dave Portnoy, whoever he is, got a boner out of nowhere in the last few days and now it's world changing? I'd really love to know if any of these quasi celebs have ever swayed anyone before. I guess it all mounts up in the end but it's still a bit daffy to witness.

Users aren't either. It's like anything, it has a conversion rate. There are steps between thinking about the idea and using the idea and perhaps the reasonable number of people who have investigated the idea then fell away due to confusion or disenchantment before becoming a regular user. It's not as straightforward a sell as vanilla BTC.

Is this an acrimonious divorce or is it only matter of clarifying matters?

Presumably these coins were bought rather than earned or mined in which case there will be a paper trail from the purchases. All exchanges will also give you a download of the trades and which addresses they went to.

That's what's really needed. A screenshot from a website may be helpful but without the rest to go with it it's likely to be meaningless.

The Circle service was great but they have proven themselves to be dunces.

They got rid of that before 2017 thus throwing away untold millions in fees. They bought Poloniex for 400 bleedin' million, did not too far off nothing to it and then sold it no doubt for peanuts to a bug eyed scammer. No idea what Kraken paid for their OTC operation but they let go of that just as that type of demand is about to go nuclear.

Let's hope their nice stablecoin does well at least.

As for Paypal, if they are doing buying and selling I can imagine the fees and exchange rate is not going to be pretty. They don't do you any favours with bog standard money.

It's everyone choice to comply or not but I think it's a weird requirement and it feels a bit low rent to me.

It might screw up people who are already in campaigns and aren't accepted for the new one. If they figure out you've removed it for any period of time you can be booted or not paid. They shouldn't be meddling with people until after they're recruited.