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1401  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cold Storage scam on: April 23, 2020, 11:19:23 AM
I have two devices , one was bought directly from manufacturer while  the other (as back-up) - on the second hand market for the third of price. The "second hand"  was tuned up as described above.  Both have the same SEED + 25th  password  and manifest the same set of addresses when cope with particular crypto. I'm using them  alternately, so far so good.

A third of the price is only a difference of 30-50 bucks with certain devices. Though I'm not convinced the hardware tampering thing is a realistic risk I would still pay that to completely extinguish any doubt. You might one day be storing the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of dollars on there.
1402  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-03-05] Power Plant Mines BTC 5.5/day on: April 23, 2020, 10:24:42 AM
But do the electric power plant's mining costs pay off?

No one mines for fun so I presume it must do. However 7000 mining machines is one hell of a big outlay. It doesn't make it clear whether they own the machines themselves or whether they have a deal with someone who owns them.
1403  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin mixers on: April 22, 2020, 10:16:48 PM
Do you want every person you transact with to know your entire Bitcoin history? Because that's what they can do if you don't break the chain somewhere. You may also trip a company's terms and conditions and get told to go away such as sending them coins that were involved in gambling.

If you have the option of keeping your past private then there's nothing illegal about taking it.


1404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is 51% attack a crime? on: April 22, 2020, 10:05:01 PM
A lot of the time it's to fuck exchanges so is there is a law in there somewhere that's fraud related? Though the actual attack itself may not be in that scenario but they're using it to carry out an intentional and malicious act that causes a financial loss. I'd be seriously impressed if someone who did it could ever be found but it's an interesting question.
1405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If BTC reach 100,000.00 USD ... (to analyze your amount in BTC) on: April 22, 2020, 09:44:59 PM
I think for US citizens 100k USD is not a huge amount of money, barely buy a small house  Cheesy

Yup. Say if you're 30-40 ish in a first world country you have 40-50 years of life to pay for as well as a property. $3 million looks big but you'd still have to live a modest and wise life to eke it out if you chose not to work. And inflation will murder it so you have to be extra on the ball.

Most people wouldn't think that way. They'd get the Lambos, the stupid holidays and then they'd realise well over half was gone already within a few months.
1406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If BTC reach 100,000.00 USD ... (to analyze your amount in BTC) on: April 22, 2020, 09:04:54 PM
Everyone's going to say they need more. Most people who did end up with a lump that looked large would probably find themselves running out of money big time just when their earning power was gone. A couple of million dollars or whatever looks good but it has to be preserved and grown and all the while you might be depleting it.

To be officially 'rich' I'd need a lot more BTC than I have now at that price level.
1407  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto Taxation on: April 22, 2020, 08:38:12 PM
Crypto was invented to avoid such things like taxes, to be a transparent process between two or more person. Government will try to put taxes where ever money or any high value is involved.

Says who? I don't remember that in the Bitcoin white paper anywhere. 'A peer to peer tax evasion system' wouldn't quite scan the same way. There are tons of transactions that take place that governments would never know about. It's on you to report it.

The tax thing at the moment I'm most intrigued by is whether there's going to be some sort of wealth tax imposed to pay for economic ruin. Taxing work further isn't going to be a winner compared to taxing wealth sitting there doing nothing.
1408  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Some question about trust summary in different sections. on: April 22, 2020, 08:25:47 PM
IMO, trust ratings should be shown in all boards. Maybe it's not essential in boards where no trades are being made, but it's still important. For example, there is user who is posting on Beginners & help and some discussion boards with unsafe online vanity address generator link in signature. Visible rating would work as alert in boards where users is vulnerable.

That's a very good suggestion. I'm not sure which sections it turns up in but it should also be in all of the alt sections. That's an area rife with questionable projects and even more questionable download links. Similar to here it's also likely to attract the crypto naifs.

I think it might as well be everywhere. I'd rather know I was dealing with a piece of shit even if it's erotic banter only.
1409  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Exchanges WITHOUT KYC? on: April 22, 2020, 08:19:25 PM
I regard anywhere that doesn't ask for KYC as a place that is waiting to use it as an excuse to rape you when the time is right. It's the excuse that keeps on giving. And even supposedly decentralised places have asked for it too, not that any I've seen are worth bothering with.
1410  Economy / Economics / Re: Rookie thing. on: April 22, 2020, 03:32:26 PM
As long as there are governments there'll be tax and they will charge it in fiat. They will also pay their employees in it as well as beneficiaries of state largesse. I can't see it ever going away so this is something that never crosses my mind. The government cryptocurrencies everyone talks about will be fiat too.

It may be that people have to begrudgingly convert their crypto back to fiat to pay their government bills but it'll always make up a large portion of economies.
1411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: we would have been nothing without Bitcoin and Bitcoin forum on: April 22, 2020, 11:09:43 AM
I've come across loads of people in cryptoland who claim never to have been here. It is quite possible. If you want cutting edge info here is often a long way behind other platforms,or it never arrives at all, so I can see why you might never get around to it.

As for Bitcoin 'saving' us. Well, you have guns, gold, heroin. There's lot of outs if you look for them. Most people don't ever think to question even for a moment or two.
1412  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why people run away from trading!!! on: April 22, 2020, 10:37:47 AM
Most people should not be trading. They don't have the knowledge, skill or fortitude to do it and they never, ever will. I have no idea why it's touted as the first thing people should dive into. I guess the people encouraging that are the real traders who'll take all their money off them.
1413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin twitter account today asks "If you met satoshi what would you say?" on: April 22, 2020, 10:20:33 AM
I'd ask him if he was feeling alright. Someone like that has better things to do than email a random nobody out of the blue.

If he replied he was feeling wonderful and wanted to be my best mate ever I'd ask him whether he's happy at the direction BTC has taken and whether any developments have taken him by surprise.
1414  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Freelancing Sites that Pay in Bitcoin/Crypto on: April 22, 2020, 09:22:58 AM
Just go via a normal freelancing site and buy it with what you earn?

There will be approximately 1,000,000,000x more opportunities and they will pay more money. I think those who pay out in BTC have realised that the people willing to work for it can't be bothered to do their sums and realise they're being massively exploited for the honour of being paid in BTC.

You may be in a place where buying it or getting paid in fiat is hard, but that's the very first thing I'd investigate before throwing away the value of my labour like that.
1415  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another crypto youtuber given a ban for breach of terms of service. on: April 22, 2020, 09:11:31 AM
And if these crypto guys are so cool, why don't they move to some decentralized video hosting service? They talk about crypto and blockchain, yet they still choose to stick with the centralized platform, because that's where the money is.

Someone should make a concerted attempt to migrate but we all know they'll fail. Centralisation = convenience. I'm not going to fire up some obscure client to watch one guy dribble on and no one else will either.

If my livelihood depended on staying in the good graces of one remote and mercurial entity I would certainly be nervous but that's how it has to be.
1416  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is DeFi anything? on: April 22, 2020, 08:31:30 AM
DeFi is one of the greatest functionalities of Blockchain.
Most of the projects are built on the ethereum blockchain - and this is what it makes ethereum competitive.
DeFi projects are going to have an increase in the value as it will be the starters of the mass adoption trend.

Erm, are you reading anything above? Projects are getting hacked and drained of all funds. Who the fuck would mass adopt that?

If they want it to take off it needs to have been 100% bulletproof from top to bottom for many years. Instead we get this. No one other than crypto propellerheads will ever go anywhere near it.
1417  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cold Storage scam on: April 21, 2020, 03:43:59 PM
Not only is the device restored to factory mode, but rather that all parts are intact and their parts are not tampered with. Many scammers open the device and add some physical parts that enable them to change some things and thus access your currencies.

I've never heard of a hardware wallet arriving with hardware tampered with. Can you provide some examples?  We have of course heard of wallets arriving with printed seeds. Physical access after you've created your seed on it seems to have ways in but that's not a factor for most people.
1418  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Purse.io is shutting down on: April 21, 2020, 03:38:39 PM
@mk4. It appears that he might save purse.io and use it as one of his services to promote his bitcoin cash scam, however hehehe.

He'll need people to want BCH for their gift cards though. If he does go for it it'll be interesting to see the uptake. I really can't see him educating newcomers as to the difference so maybe it'll explode as they believe they're getting 'more' Bitcoin.
1419  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mythbusters: today's chapter - Bitcoin's correlation with traditional markets- on: April 20, 2020, 04:10:44 PM
bitcoin will be affected by the mass panic but there still is absolutely no correlation between bitcoin and any other markets.

Bitcoin market participants don't live in a magical crypto bubble. They go broke, lose their jobs, go mad or are looted to death just like anyone else. A total lockstep is unlikely but if the world goes up in smoke then I don't see how BTC carries skipping gaily along.
1420  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Freewallet.org is a fraudster who cheated me out of 15.2BTC on: April 19, 2020, 10:50:55 AM
This may sound disappointing: we've got big plans for the future and aim to stay.

If you had personal experience with any of our 20+ apps or had the opportunity to try crypto purchase, instant exchange of free transfers within Freewallet, let us know.

If you're not going away you could at least make one adjustment that would save users potential heartache and stop calling yourselves a wallet.

You're an exchange and as soon as that's clearer more people will realise what they're getting themselves into - a place where coins should not be stored and where KYC will be sprung on you at any moment.
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