Your 'hint' of 'threatening with the FBI/SEC' was of little value and probably why at least two people thought you sounded like a dick. Clearly laid out instructions of how you got your money back would be more valuable. Just like your 'hint' of having information about shipping or tracking numbers was of little value, but actually having the tracking numbers would have been of great value. Anyone else agree with me?
and that info was requested it was given out. if you want the tracking numbers send me a pm. people who have sent me pms about who to talk to about getting the funds back, including garrs address have that info. im not sure going to make it public to anyone. |
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mark has still not filed for bankruptcy. he is sitting on millions in fiat in japan just lulzing at all of us suckers.
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I mean, you either tell us something if you want to or shut the fuck up. What kind of a schoolgirl like behaviour is this ?
Garr is that you? If not what I did was point out he lied yet again. Should not really be a shock at this point but whatever. You defending his actions is pretty lulz however. And since I am still a shareholder what he does with the stolen funds is pretty much on topic. He's not defending anyone, he's saying you're being a dick by flaunting how you've recovered all your money among an audience of those who haven't. Hint hint you have been shown a path that works to recover your funds. I'm not doing this to brag I'm doing this so Garr does not get to keep all the BTC he stole from all of us. Some of you guys have already got info about Garr and are taking action. But then again you might be the guys who bought in at .0004 and want this to pay out for you. Whatever, do what you will. |
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It is just civil as he wont do an audit.
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So what ever happened to the 650k BTC where they sold on the exchange over the 2 years? How many hackers where their stealing coins and how long did it take to get 650k BTC? How did Mt. Gox run for years with 650k BTC missing? Did it run like a ponzi? If so someone needs to go to jail.
There never was a hacker. Mark just lied to cover his ass., Cant wait for a real audit. |
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Anything new I heard someone was trying to buy Mt. Gox?
im trying to get my lawyer to get the NZ people to make a claim in japan for us... the NZ will not talk to anyone but lawyers  |
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I mean, you either tell us something if you want to or shut the fuck up. What kind of a schoolgirl like behaviour is this ?
Garr is that you? If not what I did was point out he lied yet again. Should not really be a shock at this point but whatever. You defending his actions is pretty lulz however. And since I am still a shareholder what he does with the stolen funds is pretty much on topic. |
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Do you know how many counts of wire fraud he has done? This guy is looking at 25 years plus mandatory. And he didn't made you sign anything to keep silence before paying you? Genius. Too bad that we are already trying to get HF indicted in a serious manner and a threat of it won't do any good. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #NBanaJssF6tswah6Why would I sign an NDA? My lawyers were ready to act. I had all the cards. |
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Why FBI ??
Do you know how many counts of wire fraud he has done? This guy is looking at 25 years plus mandatory. |
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Is anyone based in Canada able to sue Garrett ?
If we all put some money together we sure have enough to do it.
You do not need to sue him. Just need to be able to report him to the FBI/SEC. |
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If the conversation fail, it is time for legal action.
Yup. Once your lawyers get a hold of him he is very keen on making a settlement. I might be the only investor who has been made whole in this pile of fail. So how much per share were you compensated? Were you made whole to the tune of .6 to 1.0 BTC per share by threatening legal force? .6 for the shares I bought at .6 or higher. I have all the other shares, some were bought at .1 or so. I got 80% back and saved me a few years of courts and whatever (and he saved 20 years in jail). I'm sure this will not shock you but Garr will come begging trying to hand you money if he thinks he is about to be reported to the police/SEC. Turns out he has a lot more money than he would like you to think. Anyway best of luck guys, my fight is pretty much won. |
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"Any appreciation in the value of bitcoins would be lost because of conversion of MtGox's 200,000 recovered bitcoins to fiat currency as part of the distribution of assets."
He speaks as though this is a fact and must happen. Why would it not simply be returned to the customers. Would be a lot easier than selling it all and returning it as fiat cash to the customers.
Pretty sure when the Govt of Japan sells all the assets of Gox they will see BTC as an asset. They will sell that for fiat. Well I would agree if the found bitcoins is actually considered MtGox assets. But this could easily be viewed as customer assets that do not belong to MtGox. If that is the case then it is not for MtGox to dispose of. In their ToS they state that they hold bitcoin on behalf of the customers. When I deposit coins to MtGox I am not thereby giving them ownership. It's no different from a stockbroker buying on behalf of his client. MtGox is literally a middleman or a strawman between buyers and sellers. It's just a platform that have no ownership interest invested in the assets deposited by their clients. Pretty sure Japan is going to sell all the BTC and get fiat. |
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"Any appreciation in the value of bitcoins would be lost because of conversion of MtGox's 200,000 recovered bitcoins to fiat currency as part of the distribution of assets."
He speaks as though this is a fact and must happen. Why would it not simply be returned to the customers. Would be a lot easier than selling it all and returning it as fiat cash to the customers.
Pretty sure when the Govt of Japan sells all the assets of Gox they will see BTC as an asset. They will sell that for fiat. |
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saving gox is impossible, just like that, period
too much money was lost
For me it is mostly about Mark being held accountable and finding the lost BTC. |
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How do we "reach out" ?
They need to talk to Adam B Levine and the group that has been working on the whole Gox tracking thing for months.
There are a lot of people who claim to know exactly where the coins are, and I have yet to hear anyone in authority acknowledge a discussion about it.
Which is really strange to me.
Maybe this guy is the one who needs to address those concerns, and tell everyone how he's going to facilitate the tracking of the "other coins"
-B-
It seems to me Mark is doing this liquidation thing to try to avoid jail and or get away with the extra coins. The Japanese Govt is not going to be able to track to coins so we need an audit. |
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This was posted on cryptocrypt.org but is important enough for the community to know about it so John gave me his permission to repost it here. Hi everyone, my name is John Betts, and I am leading the proposed rehabilitation effort for Mt Gox, and Goat asked me to post here and communicate with you.
In short - we want to take over management of the company from Mark, so that we can handle the Civil Rehabilitation proceedings, distribute customers the assets currently under the control of the Supervisor, and rebuild the exchange.
We also have plans to lead asset recovery efforts, and to give customers participation in the new exchange through a combination of equity interest and revenue share.
I would like to begin a dialogue with you, to introduce myself, our syndicate, and what a rehabilitation plan might look like, and to seek your support to convince the Supervisor not go down the liquidation route that will further hurt customers, and to support our effort lead the civil rehabilitation proceeding, which we will pursue with your collaboration.
Right now, we are working with the Supervisor to convince them bankruptcy only protects Mark, and would be detrimental to creditors.
Hopefully you share our concern about liquidation vs. rehabilitation.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out.
We are in the process of preparing more detail around our proposal, and I will share that with you as we release it.
Best regards,
JB They have a site set up at savegox.com I'm not sure this will work but I like the idea of it. Getting rid of Mark and having a professional audit by people who care about BTC seems like a better path than what is on offer. Anyway open to your ideas and feedback. -Goat- |
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$15K for the lot.
Na, I can't do that. After looking at what these are selling for now I honestly think it might just be worth keeping them. However if I get a decent offer I will take it. Thx |
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