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481  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 07:22:31 PM
You should use TP first, then bidet. Not the other way around.

But the TP serves to sop up the bidet water trapped by ass hairs.

If you use bidet second, then you inevitably end up with a wet ass, which is no good for anybody.

What do you think is the small towell besides the bidet used for? Of course, that is after you have *perfectly* cleaned it all. You can use TP instead if you want... but using TP first is almost mandatory to remove any solid residue before using the bidet.

That being said... in case of an apocalypse all this concerns will be the less of our problems. And as I said, no food, no shit.

I guess we need a complete bidet using tutorial posted here  Cool

WO always delivers: https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-use-a-bidet-1/

There are some inaccuracies on that tutorial, but it is good to go.
482  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 07:17:43 PM
What do you think is the small towell besides the bidet is used for?

For washing your face, right?

That's a common misconception. Mistakes do happen. No one has died from that AFAIK.

oh god, I can only imagine...

" hmmm... this face cloth smells like ass!....

....oh no..."


Seriously speaking it would be a bit weird someone not noticing that the bidet towel is that far away from the sink and on a very low height.

Anyways, not everyone use or even have the towel.
483  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 06:50:04 PM
What do you think is the small towell besides the bidet is used for?

For washing your face, right?

That's a common misconception. Mistakes do happen. No one has died from that AFAIK.
484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 06:47:02 PM
What's with all this shitcoin talk?

Bitcoin just dumped. I think it is very appropriate talk right now.
485  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 06:41:05 PM
You should use TP first, then bidet. Not the other way around.

But the TP serves to sop up the bidet water trapped by ass hairs.

If you use bidet second, then you inevitably end up with a wet ass, which is no good for anybody.

What do you think is the small towell besides the bidet used for? Of course, that is after you have *perfectly* cleaned it all. You can use TP instead if you want... but using TP first is almost mandatory to remove any solid residue before using the bidet.

That being said... in case of an apocalypse all this concerns will be the less of our problems. And as I said, no food, no shit.
486  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 06:27:28 PM
So-called "experts" say bidets are the answer to the TP problem.

That's false.

In my travels I've used at least 10 different types of bidets. I've tried everything from the high-powered jet blaster to the swiveling douche fountain to the garden hose nozzle, and not one left me with a 100% clean ass.

I always have to follow up with some TP to make sure the job is truly done.

You should use TP first, then bidet. Not the other way around.
487  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 10:52:28 AM

488  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 10:40:01 AM
I will never understand the toilet paper shortage. The first thing people do in the face of doom is buy massive unreasonable amounts of TP....
I buy massive unreasonable amounts of TP, but not out of panic. Together with home-baked bread, it drastically reduces my supermarket volume, so I can just about manage with a tertis-level over-filled shopping basket instead of needing a shopping trolley for the rest of the year. Saves a lot of time every time I visit a supermarket. Both in time navigating a busy supermarket and returning the trolley from the car-park.

That's the sensible thing to do. Every time there is an offer on products that are routinely consumed I buy as much as I can, sometimes enough for years ahead. I really don't understand people that doesn't plan when that usually means in savings on costs and "logistics".

I could understand a supermarket cart full of bottled water, or food cans but... toilet paper? Give me a break.

On second thought... Maybe there was an offer on toilet paper?
489  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 10:33:51 AM
No, really, I am serious now... Why do people think toilet paper will be their biggest concern in case of a shortage of supplies?

What about water and food?

How the fuck does this work?  Like "I am fully prepped for the apocalypse because now I have a room completely filled with toilet paper." ?

Maybe it's the cheapest way to completely fill a supermarket cart so that they fool themselves that they are doing good?

Don't they know that when you don't eat you barely shit either?

Nonsense.

China is (was) the worlds biggest exporter of toilet paper.  

There’s bound to be a genuine supply side shortage somewhere.  

People are all thinking this is a demand side panic.  That’s not necessarily the case.  Why the fuck can’t I get lawn beetle killer?  Is that a blind demand panic as well?  Why can’t LFC get supplies? 

It all leads back to the worlds manufacturing hub being a bit fucked at the moment.

I don't know, I have just checked and my toilet paper says it is made in Spain. Same with the kitchen paper, which is a great substitute btw. I have even checked the business name and they do indeed have a big factory here. Maybe it is the raw material or something what is imported from China?

Anyways, yeah, China has become the biggest source of many things and this will be a great stress test and maybe something will be learnt from it.

But my point is mainly about the weird rationalisation that some people seem to be doing about what is or isn't really critical... and TP scoring really high for some.

About the lawn beetle killer... have you checked a bunch of alternative sources and still no luck?
490  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 09:44:43 AM
P.S.: Thinking about this is making me recognise how wonderful is to have free public health service and how we usually don't see the value in those things we have always taken for granted.
It's not free. In this case it appears you don't see the cost.

Of course it is being paid in advance in order to be "free" when you need it but, there is something very wrong with the alternative system:

Look at the prices of medical procedures in the US. One would suppose that capitalism would manage to reduce prices due to competition as it does in most other sectors. But in this particular case it is not happening at all. How do you reconcile US not having universal health care and still having the biggest per person spend? It just doesn't make any sense.

I don't believe in socialism, but in this particular case I have to acknowledge universal health care works way better overall.

Of course I find completely ridiculous that universal health care also covers foreigners (and even ilegal migrants) here whose respective nations don't reciprocate when we go there. That's completely stupid and plain wrong from an economical point of view (I will leave ethical concerns out of this) and it is well known there are many people exploiting this.
I don't know nearly enough about the US health system to answer this, but I will say that part of the problem is that the US is not a capitalist country. It is as socialist as everywhere else in the west, it just has a slightly different form.

Another potential issue is the sue culture. It's so out of hand that we make fun of it in the rest of the world. What's a medic to do when he risks getting sued every time he treats a patient? Well he obviously has to charge enough that he can afford that risk.

I have stayed at a number of hotels in thailand with pools over the past months, and they all have the same sign with the same clause: There is no lifeguard, and you use the pool at your own risk.

Remove the welfare state - all of it, rip it out by the roots - and change the legal system so people are forced to accept a higher degree of personal responsibility for their own actions, and prices might eventually come down. But it's a decades long process, even if done right, which it won't be. Basically the whole country is fucked.

Yes, I can understand the "sue culture" has a big impact on prices. You really need to set crazy prices to be able to cushion fines that can even reach the hundreds of millions here and there.

Removing the welfare state? I donno... Maybe that's too much. Do you know what kind of things can do people that doesn't have enough to feed themselves? I don't think the welfare state was created just because of making sure everyone is well fed for... charity... it is also for safety of the rest.

Also, the health system is very complex... If it were fully private and only for a few that can pay for it there would be no economy of scale and probably the cost would skyrocket. As much as I do believe in capitalism, until I see a detailed and well thought plan of how it could be implemented and what it costs would be I wouldn't vouch for it.

Maybe Amazon has a plan for that... if so I would like to study it.

In the meantime, I prefer euro universal health care even if there a lot a changes I would do... The first one being charging service costs to anyone whose country doesn't reciprocate the same.
491  Other / Meta / Re: Forum merit system on: March 08, 2020, 09:16:05 AM
492  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 09:10:18 AM
No, really, I am serious now... Why do people think toilet paper will be their biggest concern in case of a shortage of supplies?


Maybe it's the cheapest way to completely fill a supermarket cart so that they fool themselves that they are doing good?



Nonsense.

Think you nailed it.  Smiley

If so, then maybe we really needed a pandemic to rebalance humanity.

And in some way I am also serious about that. I mean... If this thing really goes BAD it will be a great "stress test" of current dependence on specific chains of supply. Not that I really want that to happen (unlike some) but just trying to see the good side of an inevitable bad situation.
493  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 08:46:12 AM
No, really, I am serious now... Why do people think toilet paper will be their biggest concern in case of a shortage of supplies?

What about water and food?

How the fuck does this work?  Like "I am fully prepped for the apocalypse because now I have a room completely filled with toilet paper." ?

Maybe it's the cheapest way to completely fill a supermarket cart so that they fool themselves that they are doing good?

Don't they know that when you don't eat you barely shit either?

Nonsense.
494  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2020, 07:50:32 AM
someone found a way...


I really don't get what's up with all that fuss about toilet paper. People living in the past or what?

495  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2020, 05:47:01 PM
Look at the prices of medical procedures in the US. One would suppose that capitalism would manage to reduce prices due to competition as it does in most other sectors. But in this particular case it is not happening at all. How do you reconcile US not having universal health care and still having the biggest per person spend? It just doesn't make any sense.

Simple. Medicine in the US is a semi-socialized, government-market-distorted clusterfuck that has nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism.

So the alternative being fully socialising it would probably work better IN COMPARISON... Unless they manage to keep corrupting the system somehow... which probably they would.

Is there any country where a pure capitalist health system exist? If there is, I would like to know and compare costs.
496  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2020, 05:21:23 PM
P.S.: Thinking about this is making me recognise how wonderful is to have free public health service and how we usually don't see the value in those things we have always taken for granted.
It's not free. In this case it appears you don't see the cost.

Of course it is being paid in advance in order to be "free" when you need it but, there is something very wrong with the alternative system:

Look at the prices of medical procedures in the US. One would suppose that capitalism would manage to reduce prices due to competition as it does in most other sectors. But in this particular case it is not happening at all. How do you reconcile US not having universal health care and still having the biggest per person spend? It just doesn't make any sense.

I don't believe in socialism, but in this particular case I have to acknowledge universal health care works way better overall.

Of course I find completely ridiculous that universal health care also covers foreigners (and even ilegal migrants) here whose respective nations don't reciprocate when we go there. That's completely stupid and plain wrong from an economical point of view (I will leave ethical concerns out of this) and it is well known there are many people exploiting this.
497  Other / Meta / Re: Forum merit system on: March 07, 2020, 04:55:07 PM
The merit system was implemented by the forum mod in other to force and increase post quality by this forum users which is the reason why some campaign managers also included it as one of the major requirements when selecting campaign participants. But merit misuse is so many these days especially in the Wall Observer BTC/USD (Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion) and some local thread where people would post absolutely nothing worth to be merited.

Note : I understand that I'm not the first person to complain about merit been abused. But
the question is, what are the forum mods doing about all this?

One person's garbage is another person's treasure. If the WO regulars want to merit pictures of big green dildos and scantily clad women, that's their prerogative. The only time the administration got involved is when a merit source staged a merit giveaway. The only requirement was to be one of the first few people to post anything in the WO thread. That merit source had his privilege taken away.

Maybe it should also be noted that he was sending it in huge lots of 25/50 (IIRC) merits for each single post. And, AFAIK, even that was not considered abuse (there were clearly no ill intention or collusion), but Theymos just decided that it was not appropriate usage of the sourced merits.
498  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2020, 04:49:13 PM
You have to read all the clauses of your insurance policy, insurance companies normally do not take charge or do not include coverage if a pandemic is declared.

Yeah. I almost forgot insurances mostly only cover the same risks you could probably cover from your own pocket and that when the real shit hits the fan you are on your own anyways. Bleh, enough rant... I didn't even had plans to travel this year... but after checking flight prices (like HALF than previous years) I have to recognise I was REALLY tempted. I guess I am getting old when I start putting more weight on risks/safety than saving costs.
499  Other / Meta / Re: Forum merit system on: March 07, 2020, 04:09:50 PM
The merit system was implemented by the forum mod in other to force and increase post quality by this forum users which is the reason why some campaign managers also included it as one of the major requirements when selecting campaign participants. But merit misuse is so many these days especially in the Wall Observer BTC/USD (Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion) and some local thread where people would post absolutely nothing worth to be merited.

Note : I understand that I'm not the first person to complain about merit been abused. But
the question is, what are the forum mods doing about all this?

If you had lurked long enough in WO before complaining, you would have realised many things. One of those is that we are not interested in "meta drama", so please leave us out of it. If, OTOH, you are really interested in discussing many Bitcoin related (plus some loosely related) things you are welcome to join us and maybe, just maybe, you will also earn some of those merits that seem to be as much important for you.

You should also know, if you don't already and maybe that's the reason you don't post there, that campaign signatures are not displayed in WO so posts there don't count for pay. That would give you an idea that most regulars of WO are not here for the merit, the campaigns, the bounties or anything besides casually sharing/discussing about Bitcoin and other topics that might be of some (even if loose) relevance for other Bitcoiners.

If that sounds good to you, you are welcome to join whenever you want and try to earn as much merit as you are able. If it's not your thing... well... the forum is HUGE and diverse, find sections where you are comfortable and somehow fit in, keep contributing according to its specific rules, culture and your own style and the merit will come. Or not. Who cares?
500  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2020, 04:44:41 AM
I was thinking about my private medical insurance which is supposed to cover me worldwide... but, yeah, probably there are lots of exclusions that I never even bothered to read... But I have just checked that it seems that there is a maximum cover of 50000€ which, after knowing the completely ridiculous prices of medical services in US, it's almost a joke.


dude, 50K?

we ain't even scraping you off the windshield for that...peasant

Yeah... but maybe it would be enough cover for an aspiring if I do get a headache while overseas?

I have read about completely terrifying stories (invoices/receipts included) of medical expenses running on the several hundreds of thousands dollars for what would otherwise be considered minor/mild health issues... like stents surgery, back surgery... or a few tens for a very simple bone fracture... and that without considering a long stay in the hospital which cost is simply mindblowing.
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