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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 07, 2019, 12:19:46 AM
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^ Sarcasm? So you are denying that Litecoin doesn't have faster blocks? Are you?
Get the fuck out of here with your seemingly core crippled bullshit!
There are too many guys here pumping that bullshit crapola and taking that off-topic irrelevance seriously to be playing around... even though I do sufficiently get your point. Good, please tell it to me, because I don't really get what my own point was. I was just being funny. Or trying to. Whatever comes first. YMMV. Now that I really think about it... I could have a point... Litecoin halving is coming in a few months and no matter if you do or don't have any significant amount of LTC.... It will be an interesting event to watch and try to extrapolate to next Bitcoin halving. Get used to it... not yet, not now, but it will come soon.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 05, 2019, 01:33:41 PM
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Can we just not let the arguing with jbreher polarize sides as if there was no middle more reasonable field?
Bitcoin is scaling the right way. But that doesn't mean it won't have a moderate and reasonable block size increase in the (near?) future.
L2 is the way to go, but block size will also need some (linear, not exponential as that's what L2 is for) capacity upgrade sometime.
Hear, hear, couldn't agree more. I don’t think the need is conclusive yet - and the trade offs are significant. Let’s see how we go. How could we argue we won't need *some* blocksize increase in the near future if demand keeps growing? Yeah, LN still need to start absorbing more Tx's which would free some blockspace but... still.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 05, 2019, 01:06:12 PM
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BTC@ 3800$ -----> 1 BTC = 1 BTCBTC@ 5000$------>1 BTC = 1 BTCforeseeable future BTC@ 20 000$---->1 BTC = 1 BTCBTC@ 100 000$--->1 BTC = 1 BTCAnd the story continuous Mic add "% of how many new multimillionaires" here in WO thread when BTC touching $100K mark I would say 50-60% new BTCmillionaires. Rule yourself, bitserve, LFC out from this list, your status is a quite clear and good amount of regulars too. To make it very clear, even at $100K I would be just barely multimillionaire. LFC has a more healthy stash than me, let's just say like double than me, maybe even more. I am poor, but proud. You are not poor! Most people in the world dream of living in a $300,000 - $400,000 house. If you have what I think you have judging by your comment there then within 5-10 years you will definitely achieve that. People with 1 BTC in 10 years will achieve life changing money. Edit - Depends where you live in the world too. In the UK I need a lot more to be very comfortable than for example Kylapoiss who lives in Ukraine. Well, I am not really POOR. But I recognise I am a very small fish in this pond. Good thing is that living in (south) Spain vs UK plus my (current) frugal lifestyle I don't need that much to make it for life. Yeah, $100K would surely do. Maybe even $50K if I don't change my lifestyle in a significant way.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 05, 2019, 12:53:32 PM
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BTC@ 3800$ -----> 1 BTC = 1 BTCBTC@ 5000$------>1 BTC = 1 BTCforeseeable future BTC@ 20 000$---->1 BTC = 1 BTCBTC@ 100 000$--->1 BTC = 1 BTCAnd the story continuous Mic add "% of how many new multimillionaires" here in WO thread when BTC touching $100K mark I would say 50-60% new BTCmillionaires. Rule yourself, bitserve, LFC out from this list, your status is a quite clear and good amount of regulars too. To make it very clear, even at $100K I would be just barely multimillionaire. LFC has a more healthy stash than me, let's just say like double than me, maybe even more. That being said, my expenses are very little as I am usually very frugal, so I can really live way better with less than people with way more than me. I am poor, but proud.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 05, 2019, 11:12:05 AM
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The guy's a billionaire and he's taking a mortgage? Shhhh! He's causing more fiat to be printed thereby increasing our Bitcoin value. Don't tell him about the compound interest! It is cheaper to take a mortage than paying the full price directly, even for a billionaire He's actually doing what a true believer should do. It means he doesn't need to sell (or, indeed is able to buy another) 250 or so coins in this case, while putting up the coins in collateral. He probably has to put up double or so to mitigate against the market going down, but still, he gets to buy the house and still enjoy the moonshot which he clearly thinks is on the cards. Its good to make the coins work for you, though there is de-anonimisation and counterparty/seizure risk of course. Not only that. The property is also collateral... Plus all his net worth... present and future income. It's all just a publicity stunt. A good one though. Maybe it's such good promotion, he got the loan at zero interest. He'd probably know some of the people involved. When you're rich and famous, you get far more for free. There are some people who are always on the guest list - it's good for business. I would need to read the EXACT contract in FULL. I don't believe a word of what that guy says. Anyway... good publicity stunt, that's all it matters to me. P.S.: Oh, and I DON'T think the guy is a BILLIONAIRE. I mean, REALLY??!?!
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 05, 2019, 10:28:48 AM
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The guy's a billionaire and he's taking a mortgage? Shhhh! He's causing more fiat to be printed thereby increasing our Bitcoin value. Don't tell him about the compound interest! It is cheaper to take a mortage than paying the full price directly, even for a billionaire He's actually doing what a true believer should do. It means he doesn't need to sell (or, indeed is able to buy another) 250 or so coins in this case, while putting up the coins in collateral. He probably has to put up double or so to mitigate against the market going down, but still, he gets to buy the house and still enjoy the moonshot which he clearly thinks is on the cards. Its good to make the coins work for you, though there is de-anonimisation and counterparty/seizure risk of course. Not only that. The property is also collateral... Plus all his net worth... present and future income. It's all just a publicity stunt. A good one though.
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Other / Meta / Re: What was your feeling about KYC verification? Share your honest review.
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on: April 04, 2019, 10:48:50 PM
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Just want to know what was your feeling when you have seen forum asking for KYC verification? Let's share your honest review. My review: I was surprised when I have seen forum asking for KYC verification. I can't realized that it was April fool. I was wondering why forum asking for KYC since admin was strongly against of KYC especially for forum? Then instantly I have visited Meta section. I thought there should be announcement if need KYC. Once I read KYC thread then I realized that it was April fool . What was your feeling? When exchanges started to request KYC I always thought it was some kind of joke or April's fool, so this time was no different for me. Had I not immediately realised it was April's 1st I would have started withdrawing all of my posts
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 04, 2019, 10:09:39 PM
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It seems to me that we have ceded a great deal of influence on BTC development to a single corporate entity.
Maybe... except we haven't really "ceded" anything as "we" didn't have any real influence over that outcome. Also I am not completely sure about how much real influence they do or not have. I mean, they for sure do have a lot but.... too much? Donno. I will be clear... I am 100% for L2 as a scaling solution, but I am also advocating for a CONSENSUATED linear blocksize increase in the near future. For full disclosure: I was even pro Segwit2X at the time..... *if* it have had CONSENSUS, which it didn't. And I still think that had Segwit2X went thru, all other forks would already be in the grave instead of just agonizing.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 04, 2019, 09:58:29 PM
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Can we just not let the arguing with jbreher polarize sides as if there was no middle more reasonable field?
Bitcoin is scaling the right way. But that doesn't mean it won't have a moderate and reasonable block size increase in the (near?) future.
L2 is the way to go, but block size will also need some (linear, not exponential as that's what L2 is for) capacity upgrade sometime.
and are we really just giving blockstream inc. a pass? I am not sure what you mean. Some say blockstream wants to focus on L2 (something that I consider extremely important for scaling) and also that they won't ever allow a block size increase (something that I am not sure if it is just FUD, because that sounds simply stupid). My point of view is that Bitcoin needs both L2 and a gradual blocksize increase, being L2 responsible for most of the massive scaling and block size increase enough to support L2 and bigger/not so frequent tx's directly on-chain. Also I am pretty sure whatever is done need to be done via CONSENSUS. Other than that would not be Bitcoin, but just a worthless copycat (and we already have enough of those, don't we?)
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 04, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
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Jbreher should be joining his BCHABC - BTC-SV friends at r/btc. He can shit on Segwit/LN and Core dev. 24/7. He will be loved over there but here he's just a moron. Likely, jbreher "feels" as if he is performing a greater service these here parts. Doing "god's work," so to speak.* * NO jbreher. I don't mind at all putting words into your mouth(or brain)... The only kind of contributory service that you seem to be providing around here is as a common grounds "punching bag." Thanks for that. NOTThe only "feels" I see are coming from his opposition. Every post I've skimmed that was directed against him today was essentially completely worthless. All personal attacks and ideological horseshit over rigorous arguments. I second it. His technical points are well taken. I haven't seen the real answer besides that answers would be provided in due time. Personally, I am fully on btc team as the only fork coins I ever had came from forks, not by buying. That said, I wished that we would be a bit farther along in LN and possibly in LN onboarding. two points that he (jbreher) contends: fees are bound to go sky high and LN cannot onboard all earthlings if every on-boarding event is a single on-block tx (not batched). While we were largely not looking, next block fees went up to $1 (from 2c in Jan). It is still OK for largish tx, but makes little sense when you need to stitch together many UTXO (consolidate, as miners do). I also don't like dismissive attitudes of someone's position when this position is clearly articulated. Instead of calling names, provide an argument. He is technically right in that BTC should increase its blocksize soon. He is wrong in that any of the forks have anything to do with Bitcoin nor will ever do. There is only one Bitcoin and that is BTC. If that ever changes, say goodbye to crypto (all of it) as a store of value. He is also wrong in that scaling should come on blocksize alone. The only functional way to really scale massively is via L2. You can increase capacity by increasing blocksize, but you can only SCALE by L2. He is right in some things, wrong in others.... why are we still discussing this over and over? BCH, BSV, etc etc are not and will not ever be Bitcoin. Same as LTC (for which I have some preference) won't be either, nor DOGE or BTG. There is nothing to argue about that. I would prefer if we started discussing about a (reasonable and linear ie 2x, maybe even 4x) block size increase of *Bitcoin*. That would be way more productive, if at all.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 04, 2019, 09:05:02 PM
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Can we just not let the arguing with jbreher polarize sides as if there was no middle more reasonable field?
Bitcoin is scaling the right way. But that doesn't mean it won't have a moderate and reasonable block size increase in the (near?) future.
L2 is the way to go, but block size will also need some (linear, not exponential as that's what L2 is for) capacity upgrade sometime.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 04, 2019, 08:51:33 PM
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The guy's a billionaire and he's taking a mortgage? I think that he is just attempting to be an "innovator" in terms of using bitcoin supporting systems. He is a self-proclaimed "angel" investor, but he is also known to frequently tend towards acting like a "drama queen." Yup, that's more like it. Also, what he isn't probably telling is that even if she put some BTC (probably an oversized amount for higher margin) as collateral, he also proved his net worth to the bank. And banks make you sign that even if you stop paying the mortgage and the collateral (the home, the btc, etc) is insufficient, they can go against the rest of your net worth... present and future. So it is just a publicity stunt. I would like to see some guy with 0 IRL net worth, no income, no anything, but just some BTC stash to get a mortgage using it as the sole collateral (and without being a highly oversized amount of it).
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 04, 2019, 06:49:29 PM
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re: the blow off top of the blow off top
Another great post infofront, thank you.
but I have to say, it is just this kind of thinking that prevented me from cashing in last time...
Thanks and "Ditto". I'm determined to cash some in next time though. We all are. Which leads me to think that the next "bubble" will not be as much explosive as the previous ones. Who knows.... Bitcoin never stops to surprise us in every possible way.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: April 04, 2019, 11:46:43 AM
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My GF knows I wouldn't hesitate to do that if she suggested selling even *HER* Bitcoins. (*)
(*) After the last bubble "fiasco", I gave her permission to start trying to convince me above a certain (undisclosed) future price though.
Lucky girl hehe:D let's wait for Mrs LFC and Mrs Mic perspective also. @Pamoldar you can ask to Bhabhi ji also Well, even at todays prices she is more than 2000% up on her initial investment. Smaller than mine, which I kept increasing over the time, but higher ROI for sure. P.S.: Also she doesn't really need that money, as she is more wealthy than me, otherwise I would have let her pull the trigger. It just doesn't make sense in her case... and she knows it.
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