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521  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 11:41:20 AM

No because they can call hospitals if something happens to them.

Ok, I will accept your hypothesis. But without further evidence I will keep saying bullshit.
522  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 11:37:16 AM
Can anyone confirm in Italy there was a news people infected with a virus and they were not in any contact with other infected people?

Of course they were in contact in some way. They just didn't know it. Maybe they use the door knob on the same bathroom then touched their face. This thing is contagious, possible R0 of 6, most in a months time few people are going to know where they caught it.
How do you know that? What if they didn't have any contacts with nobody?

Dude, you are making a plethora of pretty weird statements. Everyone is in contact with other people and even if that were not true (really?) they could be in contact with things that have been in contact with other people. If someone really were as isolated as you are assuming we would probably never even know about them.
This is not true. Many people live alone. No one around them miles away from the others. I don't know if this is the case but the news says people didn't have any contact with others.

Not that many people. And the ones that do... probably also die alone so you will never know.

The news says a lot of shit. Try to focus on evidence.
523  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 11:33:00 AM
Can anyone confirm in Italy there was a news people infected with a virus and they were not in any contact with other infected people?

Of course they were in contact in some way. They just didn't know it. Maybe they use the door knob on the same bathroom then touched their face. This thing is contagious, possible R0 of 6, most in a months time few people are going to know where they caught it.
How do you know that? What if they didn't have any contacts with nobody?

What? a virus does not just spontaneously create itself or teleport from one location to another. I know that doesn't happen because science.
Yea it's strange to me that the cured people could get the infection again after a very short time. Is this even possible?  I mean once you get cured you're supposed to be healthy at least for some time.

Maybe they were not completely cured. I mean maybe they did just have a recurrence before the virus was fully eliminated from their system. That happens.
524  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 11:30:51 AM
Can anyone confirm in Italy there was a news people infected with a virus and they were not in any contact with other infected people?

Of course they were in contact in some way. They just didn't know it. Maybe they use the door knob on the same bathroom then touched their face. This thing is contagious, possible R0 of 6, most in a months time few people are going to know where they caught it.
How do you know that? What if they didn't have any contacts with nobody?

Dude, you are making a plethora of pretty weird statements. Everyone is in contact with other people and even if that were not true (really?) they could be in contact with things that have been in contact with other people. If someone really were as isolated as you are assuming we would probably never even know about them.
525  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 04:54:35 AM
In which case Bitcoin will not go up. Fiat will simply go down.

In other news, watch out: Latest Mozilla update wants to route your DNS queries through cloudflare. Which since it's an internet provider means the Govt will be able to see all of your queries without a warrant.

(Run your own DNS servers ffs)

I always assume all my traffic is being (at least potentially) ILLICITLY eavesdropped. Do you mean it is ALSO legit they would use the eavesdropping against you... LEGALLY?
526  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 03:27:43 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/pope-francis-sick-a-day-after-supporting-coronavirus-sufferers/

RIP Pope??

This guy shakes a few hundred peoples hands each day all over the world. He is the Earths nexus point for germ spreading. At 83 years old if he has it, well its not gonna be a walk in the park. 14 percent mortality at that age.

These are dangerous times and King Bitcoin is here to keep everyone safe.

He has top notch medical service you could only dream of. He will do well.

LOL, an 83 year old with all the medical service in the world is nothing compared to a young healthy immune system the pope can only dream of. The pope already has sciatic nueritis. All the doctors in his Papal Kingdom can't cure it.





He also has GOD help.

God doesnt seem to be helping him much. Perhaps God is punishing him for not buying Bitcoin.

You have to BELIEVE!!
527  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 03:23:27 AM
Indeed, I’ve shipped devices that provided canned boot sector data before - not as an exploit, but because the operating environment needed such in order to function. Of course, that was a ‘from the factory’ thing, not a field exploit.

Yeah, that's exactly what THEY wanted you to believe Tongue

Just kidding. Or maybe not... Was that "canned boot" somehow easily replaceable with a different one afterwards? Ie: the canned boot residing in another area of the HD which could be updated or using a custom tool? Or just reusing all the developed firmware, replacing the "canned boot" and generating the payloaded firmware?

Well, the canonical example would be to package a disk with a 'paddle card' protocol converter which sits between the drive and the system's SCSI | ATA | Fibre Channel | 1553 | Ethernet | InfiniBand | whatever bus. The canned boot sector would be resident in the FW of the paddle card. Used for things such as allowing contemporary HDDs to be used as boot devices on legacy systems built before the dawn of large HDDs.

Yeah, well, THAT doesn't look like it would be so easily repurposed for malicious intents. But anyways, the point stands, not only it is theoretically possible but also psycodad has provided some links that would suggest it being exploited in the wild.. even if rare and requiring the exceptional talents and resources of the Equation Group (the malwaretech PoC was not even close).

Also note that the malwaretech blog required one solder or otherwise affix a JTAG interface to the drive's PCB. And that it described -- in 2015 -- hacking 'an old drive' - which would precede the era of signature protected FW. Though admittedly, the JTAG exploit could sidestep the FW signature difficulty.

From psychodad's quoted article on the NSA:

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The attack works because firmware was never designed with security in mind. Hard disk makers don't cryptographically sign the firmware they install on drives the way software vendors do. Nor do hard drive disk designs have authentication built in to check for signed firmware.

^^^Obsolete info. Again, (most? all?) contemporary drives do indeed implement FW signature schemes preventing installation of unauthorized FW.

Then again, if my past employers had some backdoor agreement with the NSA, I'd likely not know about it.

Yeah, that's why I say "would suggest it being exploited in the wild"... The NSA/EG articule has a lot of incoherences and none evidence either. However spritesmod did indeed work out a proper PoC (https://spritesmods.com/?art=hddhack) probably outdated though as the article is from 2013 and the research prior that.

Anyway, still theoretically possible... and practically possible for state-level or equivalent attacker. If there weren't plenty of other easier attack vectors that is.
528  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 02:47:22 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/pope-francis-sick-a-day-after-supporting-coronavirus-sufferers/

RIP Pope??

This guy shakes a few hundred peoples hands each day all over the world. He is the Earths nexus point for germ spreading. At 83 years old if he has it, well its not gonna be a walk in the park. 14 percent mortality at that age.

These are dangerous times and King Bitcoin is here to keep everyone safe.

He has top notch medical service you could only dream of. He will do well.

LOL, an 83 year old with all the medical service in the world is nothing compared to a young healthy immune system the pope can only dream of. The pope already has sciatic nueritis. All the doctors in his Papal Kingdom can't cure it.





He also has GOD help.
529  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 01:51:21 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/pope-francis-sick-a-day-after-supporting-coronavirus-sufferers/

RIP Pope??

This guy shakes a few hundred peoples hands each day all over the world. He is the Earths nexus point for germ spreading. At 83 years old if he has it, well its not gonna be a walk in the park. 14 percent mortality at that age.

These are dangerous times and King Bitcoin is here to keep everyone safe.

He has top notch medical service you could only dream of. He will do well.
530  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 01:46:02 AM
When did scientists stop working to cure diseases?

Is it because they can make more money injecting the 99.99% of people that do not have the disease than they can make curing the .001%?

Scientists need resources. The time to discover pennicilin with a simple experiment and a microscope is long gone.

Pay them and give them resources for whatever you want and they will try their best. In the meantime they will work on whomever sponsoring their investigation asks them to do. There's nothing evil in that, it's just how the world works.

If any big pharma stopped thinking in optimising the profit from their I+D they would soon stop being a big pharma and replaced by a more efficient one.

That being said, it is not that they do not work on cures. They do too.
531  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2020, 01:09:11 AM
Indeed, I’ve shipped devices that provided canned boot sector data before - not as an exploit, but because the operating environment needed such in order to function. Of course, that was a ‘from the factory’ thing, not a field exploit.

Yeah, that's exactly what THEY wanted you to believe Tongue

Just kidding. Or maybe not... Was that "canned boot" somehow easily replaceable with a different one afterwards? Ie: the canned boot residing in another area of the HD which could be updated or using a custom tool? Or just reusing all the developed firmware, replacing the "canned boot" and generating the payloaded firmware?

Well, the canonical example would be to package a disk with a 'paddle card' protocol converter which sits between the drive and the system's SCSI | ATA | Fibre Channel | 1553 | Ethernet | InfiniBand | whatever bus. The canned boot sector would be resident in the FW of the paddle card. Used for things such as allowing contemporary HDDs to be used as boot devices on legacy systems built before the dawn of large HDDs.

Yeah, well, THAT doesn't look like it would be so easily repurposed for malicious intents. But anyways, the point stands, not only it is theoretically possible but also psycodad has provided some links that would suggest it being exploited in the wild.. even if rare and requiring the exceptional talents and resources of the Equation Group (the malwaretech PoC was not even close).
532  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2020, 07:59:45 PM
Even though real demand fell off a cliff quite a few years ago. Americans and much of the world citizens are completely tapped out, from all the personal household debt, student loan debt, and lack of income growth. They can't consume any more stuff. And they are starting to not even desire any more stuff, willing to live and be happy with less.

Yeah, nobody needs a faster computer or better smartphone these days.

Tech companies saw this years ago, and desperately tried to invent new types of products: smart watches, fitness trackers, VR... but nobody needs this shit.

Now they're trying foldable smartphones, ha!

Exactly. Not only that, but as a prerequisite to buying more stuff (e.g., furniture, household accessories, pictures/paintings, collectibles, etc.) you need somewhere to put all that stuff, i.e. a sizeable house like people their age bought back in the early 2000's. But with house prices doubling in just the last 5 years, young and middle-aged people can't even afford a nice/big house any longer. So they settle with a small apartment, where space is limited. Likewise many retirees are downsizing or have already downsized. People have cut waay back on buying more of everything: new clothes, new gadgets, new jewelry, new household items, new cars, etc.

It could literally be another decade or two before people start buying stuff again, but that would be predicated on income growth actually moving up again. Don't see that happening any time soon either.

This looks very interesting and I do agree with most of it... but I don't see where you are going. Do you think we are already on a deflationary economy?
533  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2020, 06:34:44 PM


Romanian TV faking up an 'empty shelves' story. Everything from the shelves is just piled up behind the camera

Yeah, I have noticed the same with Italy empty supermarket pictures. They just focus on some random empty shelve... and you can clearly see in the background many others completely filled... yet the pictures imprints the idea of a complete full stop of supplies. Fuck mainstream media. One thing is spreading bullshit because of incompetence (something I take for a given), and another thing intentionally misleading when you know better. Bleh.
534  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2020, 04:36:41 PM
Corona finally confirmed in Denmark. There goes the chance to be the one to introduce it.

You can always go there, get infected, kill the previous patient zero and claim to be satoshi the real patient zero. Just saying.
535  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2020, 04:20:20 PM
The fact of the matter is that it was the boomers who voted in socialism in practically the entire world. They deserve to die, and they need to die before we have even the possibility of building something better.

And I'm saying this as someone with old parents. Good parents at that, even. But a few worthwhile people, if they are, do not make up for an entire world run by old people who deliberately make things worse.

If Corona-chan kills most people over 60 and stops unlimited immigration, then it may in the long run turn out to be a good thing. Even better if the world turns on the chinese for releasing it.
Our elders still have a lifetime of valuable experiences to share, I'm not quite ready to give them up.
No they don't. An easy and safe life does not breed wisdom.

I'd wager you have had it 100x easier and safer. I'm not a boomer but I have no desire to see them killed. Everyone of those people you casually and cruelly dismiss has a full lifetime of experience, pain, heartache, joy, and knowledge.

Have some heart and if you can't muster up a basic level of humanity at least think of self preservation. Icygreen has it absolutely correct.

Maybe you should actually talk to some older people sometime instead of living out your bigoted uneducated self-defeating prejudices online. When/if the shit really hits the fan many will be completely unprepared for reality and relying on some aging boomer to show them how to find clean drinking water or repair an engine or a million other skills people learned as a matter of course pre-internet.

You think they had it easy because they spent their lifetimes helping make YOUR life easy. Wishing death on millions because you think they are in your way is juvenile at best and psychopathic at worst.
I'm a capitalist living in a socialist country, and culture always keeps moving further to the left over time. I can assure you I have not had it easy. Safe yes, not safer, but not easy or easier.

It's not casual and it's not cruel. Unlike the boomers, I want a society that continues to work after I'm dead. Socialism does not work comrade.

You are doing nothing but appealing to emotion. That is how communism happens. You can't run an economy, or a society, on emotion.

When your ideas (be it right or wrong) require mass of people to die... you are carrying your ideas too far.
536  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2020, 04:12:51 PM

Most linux distributions can be run on read-only filesystems (same as from cd) BUT the only true security hole is running them as root, because volumes can be remounted in rw mode on the fly. I'm using this strategy on my raspberryPi that is running the game console emulators for the kids. They don't do no shutdown, they just pull the plug/wallwart. Roms are stored on etx4 USB, mounted read-only. This one is just mounted in rw mode on the PC, to manage the roms and emulator binaries.

Just make sure you run linux as unprivileged user. Privilege escalation is a thing though, but unlikely on patched systems. However, when you're not connected to the net, i doubt there is a fair chance of catching a successful exploit via USB.

Again, your postulated security described above is utterly dependent upon the rando USB device implementing only a storage class endpoint.

Whatevs. Good luck with that.

I would care less if i am running as unpriv. user on a system that is not network connected. I didn't mention that i'd never use a host with actual user data on it. I thought that would be clear because i was replying to Dabs' "frozen sysimage" approach. I would definitely not use a guest VM but a dedicated box that i can reset via dd or similar disc imaging tools, i wasn't clear on that, as i just recognize while typing this.
And yes, it's part of the very basics: there is no 100% security, only 100% security against certain (and therefor known) attack vectors.

I’m gonna say this one last time. Your postulated recovery is weaksauce against anything other than a disk-resident vector.

dd ain’t gonna do nothing for you if malware-containing USB infects the BIOS.

Forget about badUSB/badBIOS as it has already been perfectly documented and evidenced... Maybe you are the right person to ask this, depending on how low level your work or knowledge goes... I have always thought another theoretical attack vector would be in the HD firmware from which it would be possible to on-the-fly replace a call to the boot sector adding some payload to it. I still think so but... have you ever seen any real practical example/exploit of that? Even as a PoC "lab test"?

Well, if you can program new drive FW, and you can get it programmed into the drive’s FW store, then yes - that would be trivial.

Indeed, I’ve shipped devices that provided canned boot sector data before - not as an exploit, but because the operating environment needed such in order to function. Of course, that was a ‘from the factory’ thing, not a field exploit.

However, drive FW development is non-trivial. Embedded computers without public data on memory maps, peripheral specs, etc. Nonstandard SoCs, built on various ISAs, dependent upon lots of in-house developed tools. Very difficult. Albeit doable in theory.

However^2, most (all?) contemporary drives will not load FW that does not have a valid crypto signature. I have never heard of any case of a successful exploit of a drive’s FW sig being cracked.

Though drive companies are just collections of people, and some people in the chain of custody for the root certs may not fully understand their responsibilities. I could see the possibility of a leak of keys happening some day by some vendor or another. At which point, such an exploit again becomes plausible.

Nice. Good to know it is something that hasn't been seen in the wild yet even though I guess, from your description, it is not something completely out of reach for a determined (and resourceful) enough attacker.

It also sounds as something that YOU (or someone you know) could probably do given enough time and motivation. And when I say YOU, I can perfectly mean some/many others. So the risk is real. I guess the real reason it hasn't happened yet is mainly because there are plenty of WAY more cost effective attack vectors. If it were the only one, it would be exploited for sure.

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Indeed, I’ve shipped devices that provided canned boot sector data before - not as an exploit, but because the operating environment needed such in order to function. Of course, that was a ‘from the factory’ thing, not a field exploit.

Yeah, that's exactly what THEY wanted you to believe Tongue

Just kidding. Or maybe not... Was that "canned boot" somehow easily replaceable with a different one afterwards? Ie: the canned boot residing in another area of the HD which could be updated or using a custom tool? Or just reusing all the developed firmware, replacing the "canned boot" and generating the payloaded firmware?
537  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2020, 03:49:40 PM
#random Retirement is strange. I'm primarily living off of Bitcoin-funded fiat investments, that pay me out monthly over the next couple decades or so, and I find it highly amusing that I'm using portions of those disbursements to re-buy corn-dip.

/shrugs

That's how hedging works. You did secure your retirement, and you did it the way you had to do it (in fiat investments). Now that you are safe it is ok if you prefer to use some of the surplus income coming from those investments into whatever you feel like (ie. more BTC instead of more spending you probably don't "need").

All is well Smiley
538  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2020, 01:32:17 AM

Most linux distributions can be run on read-only filesystems (same as from cd) BUT the only true security hole is running them as root, because volumes can be remounted in rw mode on the fly. I'm using this strategy on my raspberryPi that is running the game console emulators for the kids. They don't do no shutdown, they just pull the plug/wallwart. Roms are stored on etx4 USB, mounted read-only. This one is just mounted in rw mode on the PC, to manage the roms and emulator binaries.

Just make sure you run linux as unprivileged user. Privilege escalation is a thing though, but unlikely on patched systems. However, when you're not connected to the net, i doubt there is a fair chance of catching a successful exploit via USB.

Again, your postulated security described above is utterly dependent upon the rando USB device implementing only a storage class endpoint.

Whatevs. Good luck with that.

I would care less if i am running as unpriv. user on a system that is not network connected. I didn't mention that i'd never use a host with actual user data on it. I thought that would be clear because i was replying to Dabs' "frozen sysimage" approach. I would definitely not use a guest VM but a dedicated box that i can reset via dd or similar disc imaging tools, i wasn't clear on that, as i just recognize while typing this.
And yes, it's part of the very basics: there is no 100% security, only 100% security against certain (and therefor known) attack vectors.

I’m gonna say this one last time. Your postulated recovery is weaksauce against anything other than a disk-resident vector.

dd ain’t gonna do nothing for you if malware-containing USB infects the BIOS.

Forget about badUSB/badBIOS as it has already been perfectly documented and evidenced... Maybe you are the right person to ask this, depending on how low level your work or knowledge goes... I have always thought another theoretical attack vector would be in the HD firmware from which it would be possible to on-the-fly replace a call to the boot sector adding some payload to it. I still think so but... have you ever seen any real practical example/exploit of that? Even as a PoC "lab test"?
539  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 26, 2020, 11:38:27 PM


Why did you change your name?

The first rule of Fight Club is: You do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is: You do not talk about Fight Club.
540  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2020, 06:33:34 PM
Just imagine finding a USB stick on the street, all crushed by passing cars, and taking it home, repairing it, and discovering that it contained the private key to thousands of BTC. Wet dream?

What would suck is finding a wallet.dat containing the addresses which display thousands of BTC, but then realizing it was encrypted and of course you don't know the password, and it could be short or long, but probably at least 20 characters so you just know you'll never crack it. (Or it could just be a watch only wallet, and there are no private keys at all.)


What a fucking great joke to play at a BTC conference!
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