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561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: No exchanges closing in China - just regulation (edit: not true) on: September 14, 2017, 02:25:51 PM
is it true 20% btc held by chinese investors?
I am confused as to why what happens in China can be so great as to influence the world of crypto  Huh Huh
I am totally confusing what is happening in the bitcoin world. And every day we are getting new news from China. Don't know which news I want to believe and which is not. Some people are telling btcchina exchange s closing permanently, and some people are telling it is fake news. But it is affecting to the bitcoin price. It's falling.
562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with altcoins on: September 14, 2017, 02:21:50 PM
I usually gamble with those free coins on yobit and simply dice it them. I have read this tip before here on forum and I just tried it recently, it's like unlimited gambling but it's only good for those people that doesn't into profit but just want to enjoy dice game since it is freecoins, don't expect too much with it.

You play on yobit and simply dice because you get free coins. But mostly gamblers like to play gambling with their bitcoins, the reason if we win then we get more bitcoin, and online gambling sites easily accept bitcoin than other altcoin. But if you are playing gambling with free coins it is also save way from your lose of bitcoin.   

I know that fact that most of the gamblers wanted to gamble with their bitcoins. It's like an alternative if you just don't want to gamble with your bitcoin we have a choice and that is by gambling with your alt coins. Easily accept bitcoin? Can't you see that most of the casino's does have an option to gamble with alt coins?

yes when the Bitcoin price increased like sky rocket people stop to do playing online gambling with bitcoins. So attract players now all the online casinos are accepting some altcoins. In that most accepted altcoins are ETH, LTC, Dogecoin, BCH and etc. and now playing online gambling with bitcoins is a risk. More people not like to lose their bitcoins in gambling.
563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: News said that China will close local exchanges on: September 14, 2017, 02:17:02 PM
China "banned" bitcoin a few times in the last years, they all've been campaigns to manipulate the markets, it still seems to be the case, always effective, someone is making a load of money on these rumors.
What you said it's 100% correct. Some group of people are making a load of money by spreading this news in all over the world. This looks like one type of strategy to make money by fooling small traders and newcomers in this market. Who will take the sudden decision they all will lose their money.
564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Go to Land Based Casinos? on: September 14, 2017, 02:04:31 PM
Nope, for me personally who has not been so addicted to gambling has never been visited to place a casinos based of land in my country. Indeed exist the place the land-based casino at where i live, but is still small and still simple, and even i've never visiting it.
I think you're wrong to think that way, going to a gambling place does not mean you've been gambling addicted because there you can find fun, I think people can be addicted to gambling from playing online gambling.
Yes online is very easy to access and when ever you want you can play in online so online gambling will make people to addict to this gambling. And visiting casinos is not wrong. You can just go inside see how the atmosphere inside the casino you feel different and it will make you happy. Playing i wrong i agree but just visiting is not wrong i think.
565  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 12, 2017, 03:18:30 PM
I think mining is best way for steady  income.Trading also good but trading is very risky.if you have enough experience you can do trading.But mining is good.There are no risk in mining.
No risk in mining? What if the price of the crypto you're mining drops? What if the mining difficulty rises? There are tons of risks and its profitability is very limited.

Regards,
Trump
If you are an expert in this field, I do believe that you can easily avoid risk. There are likely a thousand of coins to mine and an expert will know how to change from this coin to another coin. There are no risk at all bro Wink

You're really stupid, aren't you? Mining cryptocurrencies doesn't yield a lot of profit and could potentially cause large losses. Trading, if done well or luckily, can give giant profits... Therefore, mining is not good.

An expert might know when and how to change from one coin to another, but that's just like trading, isn't it? If an expert knows that, why would he mine instead of trade? Wouldn't trading make him MUCH more profit?

Regards,
Trump
For me compare to trading the mining is becoming tough. In trading, if my coin went down I can wait until the price come up and make a profit. But mining everyday problem and every day the difficulties will increase to mine any new coin. Switching one coin to another coin is easy but how many coins we will mine and how much profit we will earn per month to compare our investment. Trading is good.
566  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as salary for a regular job? on: September 11, 2017, 10:39:03 AM
Yes i probably will. Oh well, i do have a friend who has bitcoin as salary. And it even works better for her because she wouldn't immediately have her bitcoin exchanged on the day she received it. There was a time when she had it exchanged double the amount when she received her salary.
Salary means it will not come just 1 o 2 times mate. this is our life without getting salary we can't live am i right. For suppose if the price suddenly goes down and need money means what will you do. Becasue you will not have extra money to give all your money in BTC. Will you sell it for less price and take the loss. I don't like to put my life at risk. If the price crosses $10k don't care I want my salary in fiat currency.
567  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are bitcoins only for the educated and knowledgeable people only? on: September 11, 2017, 10:31:13 AM
For me, it isn't. We have different talent and knowledge on how we give and do stuff that we love. Bitcoins are for everyone and we have the chance to try or even have this to earn and save money for our future.

How about you guys? Is it only for the educated and knowledgeable people only?

Well right now, the early adopters are definitely mostly well educated people.

The fact is that lower socio-economic classes simply do not have the time or effort to even think about why decentralization is needed - all they are focusing is on their immediate needs and wants. Also, even though bitcoin has improved a lot since the early days as to usability, there is still a lot of technical stuff that needs to be understood in order to use bitcoin.

In the future i think that the trend will emerge as being people trying to market bitcoin to the masses by designing new, non-technical interfaces for users that simplify the experience. Then, bitcoin can be used by anyone regardless of their background.

Yes at present situation the educated people are suffering to understand this Bitcoin technology so how come an uneducated will understand. And also this is not a rocket science to understand just general knowledge. But to make our people to addict to this Bitcoin they need legal publicity then only they will show interest or else they don't care about anything.
568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: September 11, 2017, 10:13:40 AM
Rafael Nadal has lifted up his 3rd US Open title including the 16th Grand slam title, not only that but also he has reached the pinnacle of the ATP rating. though this year is not favourable for him because of losing in the Wimbledon Final against his rival Roger Federer after a mammoth 5 hours games. he recently recovered from the knee injury and he has to struggle a lot to reach this position. if he could manage his injury year after year then he would have reached all time grand slam record.

I got the feeling that either Nadal and Federer will continue to dominate tennis this year. And this year US Open belongs to Nadal and maybe the next big tournament will be won by Federer. This veterans are really showing that they can still rule the tennis for more years. Perhaps these 2 are really taking care of their body to be able to take long matches. Good to see Nadal back at the the no. 1 spot. I think as I have mentioned they know to take care of their body so to avoid injuries One factor is that they are taking breaks from time to time and just selects which tournament to enter to give their body ample time to rest and heal.

Nadal deserves this US OPEN title. Last series he lost in finals but this time when Federer went home in semi finals I fixed that the title will go to Nadal. And this is 16th grand slam for him very big congratulation to Nadal. Yes you are right this year only these two players can dominate all other players.
569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: September 11, 2017, 10:08:06 AM
if you agree with me or not, England Cricket team is the strongest test side at present. they have a pure balanced side both batting and bowling. on the hand, West Indies is one of the weakest test team at the current situation. that's why they could do anything against West Indies.

if the West Indies team could come along with their best squad then the scenario would have been different, if Gayle, Samuels, Bravo, Ramdin and other best performers could play in this series then West Indies could win at least one or two matches.
The players are ready to play, but the WI board is playing some politics against the senior players. So all senior players are not playing in the main team, and they are making money in other country tournaments. But I think the WI board can bring all the senior players in world cup it's just my opinion.
570  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Falling...Is it Panic Time? on: September 08, 2017, 03:45:55 PM
oh no bitcoin is huge dump I think some traders are panic selling, lucky that I sold my bitcoin in 4,600 before huge dump, It's time to buy bitcoin now.
Even me also sold my Bitcoin when it reached $4800+. My good luck our local exchanges bought my bitcoins for more than $5000. I was not sold all coins, but i needed money that time and the price were also not bad, so I sold. But now it is not selling time. Wait for few days again the price will pump. And you want to buy bitcoins you can buy it for a low price now.
571  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I want to start mining bitcoin,please help on: September 08, 2017, 03:26:02 PM
In these days, mining bitcoin needs alot of money to invest to but appropriat matetial. Hashing rates are to high and it's too hard to mine BTC or other cryptocurrency unless you use hardwares with high performance witch are so expencive.
If you are willing to buy such hardware, you have to find the  best combination between price, hashrate and electricity needed to run your rigs.
Mining alt coins are ok we can manage, but mining Bitcoins is tough I am not sure how many months it will take to mine 1 bitcoin. I also thought this but it is expensive for the individual I can't bear that money, so I quit. And bought few GPU and started altcoin mining. According to my recent experience Investing is best to compare Mining.
572  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much did you lost today, including profits. on: September 08, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
a few days back in my opinion is a bad day for traders, I'm sure many people who experience losses on a large scale. including me, I also lost almost 50% and it made my head dizzy.
Ive experience of losing btc during trading days. As far as I remember I lose for about 0.1btc due to panic selling. In trading there is a great patience and timing when to buy and when to sell in order to gain profit.
Yes you don't have patience then surely you will lose money in trading. The market will make you become panic like that every day the price will vary. So you should be very calm while doing trading. Especially when you invest on any coin don't take any sudden decision let's wait for some time 100% your coin will grow.
573  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Tell me the trading strategy. on: September 08, 2017, 03:07:40 PM
I have two strategies, one for the short term and another one for the long term. For the long term, my strategy is to Buy and Hold. I will buy and then forget about it, maybe go back to it again after how many years and see how is it going. For the short term, I buy low and sell high. Wait for the price to come down, buy it, and then sell when it goes up. But of course, long term investment needs expertise in fundamental analysis and short term investment needs expertise in technical analysis.
Long term you must invest in old coins like BTC or ETH. Except for these two coins if you want to invest other coins you need to do a lot of research on that coin. But for short term trading just watch the coins chart daily which coin is having big fluctuation In daily basis you can choose that coin and do trade. But here the risk is very high.
574  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What to do when prices are falling on: September 07, 2017, 03:36:04 PM
Hold and buy. Never ever sell while there's a dump ongoing. Panicking will make you lose profit and even make yoy below youe capital. If you've invested, especially in btc, wait for rhe dump to finish or better yet, grab the chance to buy at a lower price.
Yes when the price falling doesn't get panic and try to buy some more coins. Becasue it is the good time to buy coins for a low price. Specially bitcoins now we will not get a chance to buy bitcoins for a low price. So when it drops better buy how much you can. In future, you can make a good profit. Panic selling will give only loss so never sell your coins for loss.
575  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are best sources to learn trading on: September 07, 2017, 03:31:43 PM
I feel like i miss the boat or missing the even bigger one.  Huh As i want to develop new skills on trading i would like to know more about trader sources. What sites they use or which news sources they follow. And is there any book e-book you can advice? Thank you all answers!

Most trader has many sources about anything, knowledge, strategy, news or even promote their skill or broker. But exactly, their sources only their memory ( mind ). Believe or not, read many books, join groups or copy trader it's only the beginning. Next thing you need to do is keep practice, repeatedly until you find the best strategy. Follow your experience to build skill straight on the real market. Have a nice day.



Yes the books. Articles, sites and other source just give you the knowledge about trading. But to know the real fact in trading, you should keep practice with a small amount then only you will become perfect. Trading requires market knowledge you know this how to study the market flow then no worries you can make money in this platform.
576  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What's The Minimum Investment? on: September 07, 2017, 03:27:27 PM
there is no minimum investment

hundred dollars might be a lot to me and nothing to you..

ten thousand dollars might be a lot for someone, but again, it might be peanuts to a whale..

it's all relevant, just invest as much as you can, and feel comfortable losing
Minimum you can start from $10 but with this amount you can not make a good profit. Min $100 is a good amount if you choose more than this amount then it's left you. You are ready to take the risk you can invest. I tried this amount I bought few NEO coin with this amount, and just now I sold it, and I made $50 profit. But don't think every day this will repeat when the time comes we can use it.
577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: September 07, 2017, 03:20:29 PM
England vs West Indies, 3rd Test. West Indies won the toss and elected to bat first. They are in deep trouble now they lost 7 wickets for 119 runs. Looks like this match easily England is going to win. But before seeing England first innings, we can not guess this match result.

578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 07, 2017, 03:15:57 PM
I think there's no wrong on gambling the one who gamble and gamble over and over again even if he didn't benefit from that's the real wrong and besides gambling can be dated long ago we should know the history of it.

It is wrong because we spent alot of money if we treat it as entertainment then we wont really be spending alot of money so it depends on the person. For my current situation, I dont feel that it is wrong to gamble because I only gamble for fun thus I only use small amount so nothing wrong with me currently

I gamble to kill my free time and for my entertainment. And I am ready to lose some part my money to play gambling. This is my decision, so if anything can happen to me, it's my own risk. like this how people can treat this gambling is matter. if we take it just for fun, then it is not wrong. But if you choose to gamble to make money and addicted it is wrong.
579  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: September 07, 2017, 03:10:31 PM
As the title says, do you think that you're addicted to gambling? or you just don't realize that you're addicted Roll Eyes
If you ask me, i used to addicted to gambling but stopped after suffer big losses even though i'm still in profit.
I feel that I have not experienced an addiction to gambling. I am currently playing gambling for entertainment purposes only so it makes me not have any targets, unlike those who have a goal to earn a profit. those who have a goal to earn profits must have a burden and a target to be able to win every gambling game. that's what will make a person start to get addicted in the gambling game.
yeah sometimes you should take a look to yourself. introspection are the key here to avoid overaddiction and yes looking for profit in gambling would always leading you to get addicted sooner or later , money are the center of gambling problem . so when you don't care about money (which completely rare happened) you won't have a lot of problem and overaddicted.

I beg to disagree that money is the center of gambling problem.  There are those who are not after the money and yet get addicted to gambling.   I think the center of gambling problem is the inability to control oneself.  In short discipline.  We tend to follow our hearts desire and just forget about things around us.  If we have discipline and make our selves play in moderation, even if we are aiming to win we will never have problem in gambling.
lol that's doesn't makes any sense. let's be more realistic, it's clearly when you play poker without money involved there did you think it would causing gambling problem and addicted? i don't think so , don't tell me that it could happened as it's only happened in very rare situation. money are the most reasonable thing why people get addicted . end of words.
Yes you are a correct bro, if money is not involved, then it is not 100% gambling and most of the addicted gamblers addicted to gambling because of this money, not for games. I agree some people will addict to gambling games, but that number is very low to compare money.
580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: September 07, 2017, 03:04:49 PM
Argentina's Juan Martin del beat Roger Federer in four sets to reach the US Open semi-finals.
He goes on to face Rafael Nadal, who earlier beat Russian teenager Andrey Rublev.
What are your thoughts about this semi?

Nadal has the edge between the two, my speculation Nadal will go to the final and even win the grand slam, because of his experience plus the momentum of winning streak it will catapult him to the final.
So sad Federer out from this event. I expected him in finals, but unfortunately, he defeated by Del Potro. It was an excellent match b/w Potro vs Federer. Bad luck for Federer. Now everyone put eyes on Nadal. I think who will b/w Nadal vs Potro they will win this trophy.
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