The time and the risk involved in this is worth less than the reward, but i want to do that.
Please upload something here: http://k1024.de/flower1024 than tell me the address, i will send you the 20BTC.

No. The recent sell off has been caused by finding out that BFL is a scam and there will be no ASIC.

You may not do anything legally wrong here.

But  you proof again that it is very dangerous to do business with you.

You show that if business doesn't work out the way you expected you will search for every possible loophole to screw you business partner.

Showing this kind of behavior may be the deathblow to your already damaged reputation.

so we all, i think i can safely say, understand that eventually, when the block reward tapers off enough and transaction fees are the primary miner income, that the cost of transactions will, because of competition, be only a fraction above cost of operating the mining hardware. right? right.

so, when will we approach that point? we all know the block reward will be approach zero by roughly 2030, though not actually reach it for something like 100 years. so, will mining be a true "profitable" venture for the next twenty years? ten? or is the above premise wrong, and if so, what's your reasoning?

personally i believe with the block reward being 25 for the next 4 years, then 12.5 after that, etc, that we have roughly 10 to 12 years of actually making some solid income and paying off hardware and such. for bigger miners, even living off the income could/should be possible for a while. further out the variables are too many and too complex for me to figure. if the exchange rate (assuming relatively similar $ purchasing power and no collapse thereof) of BTC-$ goes to the oft rumored 100, then $650 a block isn't exactly anything to sneeze at, even divided between 1000 people. after all, with 144 blocks (roughly) found a day, that's about $93 a day for each of those people, assuming equal hash rates.

so, thoughts?

Everyone involved hates them with a passion I'm sure, but life must go on. I don't understand why not more people try to warn their intersango customers of their business practices though.

All in all, I don't think these suckers, Zhou and the conference supporters realize that letting this one pass sustainibly hurts the bitcoin community. In regard of Asic pre-orders some even claim there is no such a thing as a community anyway if rich fuckers get to pre-order 30-300 units and are given absolute priority.

The heists and hacks, the switch to custom hardware that can't be sold again for non-bitcoin related products (taking away hedging against total SHTF scenario) have convinced me that I will probably not jump on the ASIC bandwaggon and leave Bitcoin altogether. For good. I lost quite a bit of money at Bitcoinica, I don't see how people could have trusted Pirate other than being led by greed. To sum it up, it's a greedy, untrustworthy community full of thieves who are either unwilling or unable to secure their shit. Someone should write a white paper about that.

Personally, I will try my luck with litecoins now even if it may not better but at least I don't have to send money to anyone months ahead before receiving a product that may or may not be a good mining machine when it gets finally delivered. It is interesting to see how much some Bitcoiners detest litecoins (esp. at the conference as far as I read). All the more reason to support it now. Best side effect: Bitcoin difficulty can go up to hell and back. New people, new chances - ltc is in nothing inferior to btc technically and perhaps it represents some of the ideals of decentrality much better. I already know there won't be the same narcicistic assholes there as there are in the Bitcoin crowd that made me lose a lot of money.

The really good thing about the system/platform is that you can build complete web applications without writing code at all.

Well not a rewrite of SQL statements (as there are none in my system) but it would be an entirely new application so I do understand that it's probably more likely that some sort of minimal approach (as you suggest) to fixing things up would be taken.

There are no SQL queries manually coded anywhere in my system - all SQL is generated by the application server so the above simply could not occur.

A big advantage to this approach (apart from security) is that fields can be renamed without having to manually change any code (after renaming a "regenerate" performs all require changes).

If you are interested in having a website that is SQL injection proof and cannot have source code stolen then you might be interested in the technology that I've developed (all back end code is compiled C++, all queries are via an abstraction layer that ensures SQL injection is impossible and all URLs cannot be tampered with due to checksum protection).

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

I think it's fair that if we don't hear back from them by Friday, they get one. Anyone disagree?

So, now that the Bitcoinica/Bitcoinica Consultancy/Bitcoin Consultancy guys are done with the conference...remember how they mismanaged like hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of bitcoins and, er, dollars and still, as far as anyone knows, have yet to give the vast majority of everyone's wealth back?

Or, with the passage of so much time and the hosting of such a groovy conference, are all those guys, like, cool with everyone now?

After talking with the guy who will odds are farm or manage the land 4 to 6% seems to be a more realistic return. (I will update OP)

This is not guaranteed but what should happen in an average year.

Also due to flooding in the area this year there are more sellers than buyers. Land should be able to be bought at free market prices for less than average.

Still no land has been bought at this time and I am still seeing if the community is interested in investing with me.

Thanks.

Maybe some of the people who preordered and paid BTC would care to post their payment addresses.  Then we can look them up in the blockchain and see if they've been spent, broken up, if they're actively circulating, if they've been aggregated into one address, etc.

I have seen a lot of people citing the fact that BFL previously delivered working FPGA-based products.  Can we maybe compare the current situation to the one a bit before the release of the FPGA products?  Were any pictures, design documents, etc made available by BFL as the FPGA products were in development, or was the same lack of transparency shown then as is being now?

As an aside, have any of you who have preordered using the FPGA trade-in program actually sent in your FPGAs, or is BFL not asking for them yet?