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1481  Other / Off-topic / Re: (POLL!) Will Matthew pay out on his 80k BTC bet? on: September 09, 2012, 03:20:46 PM

Haha!  Awesome Tongue

Anyway, I would expect that it would take some time for Matthew to start working through the payments he owes, but we should expect to start seeing them soon, at least, assuming he intends to pay up.

Indeed. If I lose the bet, it would take a bit of time, but not too much. Don't forget it's almost 1am here.

would you mind to tell us when you plan to start payments and how long you expect to them to take?


btw. thanks for your nice hedging opportunity
1482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: theft protection by introducing "safe" accounts on: September 09, 2012, 01:04:01 PM
would it be possible to say: from this address ONLY transfers to another address are allowed?

the "other address" could be on a different server which rechecks if its a valid withdraw request.

that way the thief has to hack the database too and cannot compromise the the "other addresses"-privkey.
1483  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: best way to "instant send back" on: September 09, 2012, 09:56:24 AM
i hope from an answer from magicaltux about an api call where i provide a txn-hash and he sends me the real deposit address back.
That would violate his users' privacy; maybe I don't want you (or the rest of the world) to know that I have a Gox account.

You don't need accounts or registration, you just need a two-step process:

1) User tells you their refund address
2) You give the user a unique deposit address, and link the refund and deposit addresses in your database.

To avoid creating a gazillion deposit addresses or bothering the user to give you a refund address every time, you might want to store the "user already got a deposit address" flag in a session cookie.  But if the user will remember the deposit address then even that isn't necessary.



yes, that will do the trick.
thanks
1484  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: best way to "instant send back" on: September 08, 2012, 11:29:35 AM
To what address will you send this refund transaction? I think I saw in another thread you were assuming that the previous output's script is acceptable for this, but it is not the case.

I would recommend that you keep a "refund address" on file for your customers, and send all refunds to that address. It also makes it less confusing for them, because they can have that address labeled as "refunds from flower1024", instead of your refund showing up as "payment from Bob for widgets".

i dont want to have any account or registration.

i could imagine someone registers a "widthdraw" address by signing a message with his sending address. but i dont like that idea as it does not work forever (after some time there a new change addresses generated which could be used for new sends - but this time i dont have any signed message for this address)

at launch our service will just send funds back to the first input. i hope from an answer from magicaltux about an api call where i provide a txn-hash and he sends me the real deposit address back.

maybe rev2 will have user accounts.
1485  Economy / Services / Re: [WTB] Your signature space on: September 07, 2012, 12:34:17 PM
pm me your offer
1486  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) on: September 07, 2012, 12:13:36 PM
One thing I have noticed is that even if this bet is not paid out, there is a large list of people in the community and BTC address connected to their names. Also an amount of bitcoins willing to bet so an indication of the amount of BTC they have. The same information Pirate was wanting.

Hmm...



I do hope that Matthew will pay out tomorrow as he claims he will but if it was just a trick to make personal information public  Sad


Yes this is pure speculation on the why, but the list is public...



tomorrow?
i thought monday?

i would lol hard if pirateat40 uses this list as an indication who has how much in btcst.
ok - its a list forum name - bitcoin address. nothing more Wink

whats your reasoning?
1487  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Online Wallet? on: September 07, 2012, 10:29:22 AM
mtgox wallet has the problem that you are unable to play satoshidice like games
Thats not a problem but a benefit!

no its a huge problem
if you only look at satoshidice its ok (as long as you expect ANY new user to be careful enough to not try)

but i think its a very good feature of bitcoin to see the addresses money came from. so you have a chance to send funds back.

with an mtgox wallet this is not possible. if you send back the money mtgox itself gets it (afaik: could also be that you send the funds to a random mtgox user)
1488  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 23/459 on: September 07, 2012, 10:18:18 AM
i somewhere heard that if a ponzi is detected by sec and the funds gets redistributed all pass-throughs dont get anything

is that true?

if so would that mean that pirate does not get his usd cut to payout his btc lenders?
Why would that be the case? For example, Pirate owes Goat say 40k btc.  The SEC makes pirate pay Goat some money.  Goat can do whatever he wants with that money, including give it to other people.  Pirate's "give a list of depositors or face the consequences" deal is bullshit imo.


i dont know, its just something i have read.
if it would be true it would mean that pirate does not get anything but his lenders do have a right to talk to zeekrewards directly.

essentially i just want to know the following:
IF pirate "invested" in zeek: whats the process to get money down to my bitcoinmax account.
who has the right to to decide which peace goes to whom
is anybody entitled to take a fee for his "dividing"-work

1489  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 23/459 on: September 07, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
i somewhere heard that if a ponzi is detected by sec and the funds gets redistributed all pass-throughs dont get anything

is that true?

if so would that mean that pirate does not get his usd cut to payout his btc lenders?
1490  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Unofficial attendance list - Bitcoin London 2012 on: September 07, 2012, 09:59:31 AM
i wanted to go there but i don't want to meet phantomcircuit.
too much anger ;(
1491  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: New vulnerabilities in the advent of off-the-shelf ASIC mining on: September 07, 2012, 09:54:53 AM
as it is possible that a user checkpoints a chain which becomes orphan i think we need a mechanismen to override user checkpoints by checkpoints from new bitcoin versions
1492  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Online Wallet? on: September 07, 2012, 09:42:12 AM
would not mtgox count as a wallet if you just want to store btc and then be able to
send it out to anyone else or add to it or etc...?

if yes.. mtgox.

mtgox wallet has the problem that you are unable to play satoshidice like games

i would use blockchain.info
1493  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: "Getroffene Hunde bellen" on: September 07, 2012, 09:16:25 AM
das ist eine recht naive weltsicht.
ich habe auch nie was illegales gemacht.

aber wenn mir jemand sagt "ich zünde dein haus an wenn du mir nicht 100btc überweist", dann ist das eine erpressung die NICHTS damit zu tun hat wie ich mich bisher verhalten habe.


Dies hat mit Erpressbarkeit nix zu tun, sondern mit einer Androhung einer Straftat und Sache der Polizei, spätestens wenn er sich zu erkennen geben bzw. zur Tat schreiten muss.

Andererseits finde ich es mal wieder amüsant, wie man den Bitcoin und dessen Möglichkeiten völlig verkennt, denn der Täter müsste ja eine Adresse kund tun an die die Zahlung gehen soll.
Diese Adresse wiederum kann man relativ einfach überwachen und verfolgen, so dass der Täter im Grunde nur bedingt damit agieren kann.

es gibt mehr als genug geldwäsche dienste in der bitcoin welt....das sauber zubekommen ist nicht so schwer.

was genau ist denn für dich eine erpressung?
1494  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: "Getroffene Hunde bellen" on: September 07, 2012, 08:55:56 AM
jeder ist erpressbar.

beispiel: die ganzen pizzalieferdienste die ende letzten jahres erpresst wurden.

auch bei dir findet sich was....ist das gleiche argument wie beim datenschutz: wieso meine daten schützen: ich mach doch nix illegales...


Nein ich bin nicht erpressbar, weil ich zu Lebzeiten nie was illegales getan habe, weil ich mir schon immer geschworen habe, mich niemals erpressbar zu machen, zumindest nix, wo eine Veröffentlichung mein Leben nachhaltig beeinflussen könnte.
 

das ist eine recht naive weltsicht.
ich habe auch nie was illegales gemacht.

aber wenn mir jemand sagt "ich zünde dein haus an wenn du mir nicht 100btc überweist", dann ist das eine erpressung die NICHTS damit zu tun hat wie ich mich bisher verhalten habe.
1495  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: "Getroffene Hunde bellen" on: September 07, 2012, 08:49:22 AM
Man muss sich ja dauerhafte Troll - Störungen in sämtlichen Threads auch in seeders Kommunistenwelt nicht gefallen lassen.



jetzt bist du hier der troll Wink
1496  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: "Getroffene Hunde bellen" on: September 07, 2012, 08:39:06 AM
jeder ist erpressbar.

beispiel: die ganzen pizzalieferdienste die ende letzten jahres erpresst wurden.

auch bei dir findet sich was....ist das gleiche argument wie beim datenschutz: wieso meine daten schützen: ich mach doch nix illegales...
1497  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 23/459 on: September 07, 2012, 08:37:28 AM
Why would anyone run a secret pass through to a ponzi when they could just run a ponzi themselves?

maybe he thought it was legit?

only thing i dont understand why he didnt told what he was doing the hole time.
he said he can't tell because other people would do the same: but i dont see a problem with that if he really invested in zeek.
1498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do exchanges need a hot wallet on their server? on: September 07, 2012, 08:23:59 AM
How about an option "Send my BTC to cold storage", then you can choose between safety and instant access.

+1

i LOVE this idea
but: if they are in cold storage how could you trade them?

image two users:

A: 100USD 10BTC (option set to instant access)
B: 1000BTC (option set to cold storage)

now B trades 10BTC to A and A wants to withdraw 20BTC immedtialy.
how to handle this situation?

btw: if i where user B i would not have 1000BTC sitting in an exchange without an open order. so i am essentially my own cold-storage.
1499  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Was macht ihr mit Pirat shares/bonds etc.? on: September 07, 2012, 08:17:45 AM
Ich gehe auch nicht davon aus, allerdings heißt 'weg' für mich in dem Fall auch größere externe Eingriffe in die Datenbank, Datenverlust, im Zweifel evtl. behördliche Beschlagnahme ...es ist ja nicht so das der Berieb eines doch mit größeren Summen hantierenden Systems in einer Cloud so ganz unproblematisch ist, wiewohl es auch im ASICMINER- Thread zu einem Fall kam bei dem plötzlich jemand feststellen musste das jemand anderes  die Anteile zu einem  sehr geringen Kurs verkauft hat. Ob das nun Nutzerversagen war weil nicht aktiv ausgeloggt oder ein System in dem Fall derartige Transaktionen separat sichern sollte wird kontrovers diskutiert.

'Use at your own risk' ist jedenfalls die für den Betreiber bequemste Lösung, die in der 'Restwelt' wohl kaum Anklang finden würde. Man stelle sich nur mal vor bei ebay wären plötzlich sämtliche Angebote eines Handlers zum 1 Euro Sofortkaufen Preis zu haben.

Absicherung der Projekte ist sicher ein Thema, aber Investoren lassen sich auch mit klasssischen Firmenbeteiligungen abzocken. Na würde selbst ein notarieller Gesellschaftsvertrag einer Ltd etc. nur die Schwelle einwenig höher legen.

Letztendlich dürfte sich der Aufwand eigene verteilte Rechnerinfrastruktur (wenn nicht Rechen'zentren') bei der derzeitigen Größe nicht lohnen. Ist aber bei Banken etc. durchaus Standard wenn nicht gar vorgeschrieben.



+1
ich gehe davon aus das nefario im falle einer server beschlagnahmung zumindest die btc zurückschicken würde
die einzelnen projekte gibts ja trotzdem

und gegen hacks schützen: tja, das gibts auch in der echtwelt nur manchmal.... (siehe zb den fall linode; aber auch an der börse gibts ja hin und wieder "fat-finger"-fälle)
1500  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [PENDING] Scammer: Matthew N. Wright on: September 07, 2012, 08:01:17 AM
my guess is that Matthew has someone with deep pockets who is funding him and wants to stay anon.

maybe mtgox itself?
 - just to help the bitcoin community to hedge their risk.
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