Is this the right place to post this?
Sometimes I miss PM's sent to me just because the menu at the top is so small and I don't see the small "(1)" next to "MY MESSAGES". Don't want to be annoying, but is there some way we can make it easier to see notification of new messages?
Thanks!
i get an email when a new message arrives |
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1. The crowd here are really friendly and there doesn't seem to be too many eejits like on other non-bitcoin forums. 2. People here are really helpful to newbies or is that just because we is in the newbies section. Average IQ seems high. 3. People are excited about something  4. These forums seem to be the focal point for this entire (nascent) industry. yes, this place is great and full of ideas. just be carefull that you wont get scammed - there are idiots here also. |
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hi,
just a small question:
if i send a transaction the change goes to another address (i am speaking about reference implementation).
why aren't there any confirmations needed? it seems to be a normal transaction.
what would happen if i use a wallet (e.g. blockchain.info) and use another partys address as a change address. would he need to wait for confirmations (i guess yes, because i dont see a way to distinguish between change and "real" transaction?
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if you manage your share price to usd/btc price i would give it a try
then someone can use this to short btc.
(eg
buy 1 share at 1btc (1btc is worth 10usd)
sell 1 share at 2btc (1btc is worth 5usd)
)
^^ this means your fund will be valued in usd and you need to buy a share with btc through e.g. bitinstant.
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Not only should you steal as much as possible you should setup a passthrough to draw in more funds to invest in your scamming.
this seems to be a much better idea now i just need something with a high return which guarantees me it stays for more than a year (otherwise it is not worth the effort to build up a passthrough) ...just kidding... |
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what a shame...
as a friend and me decided to offer a new bitcoin service: should we steal the coins?
seems to be more profitable: and i am not able to see any risks.
(btw: no we won't do that. we'll just make sure its impossible to steal us a huge amount. but damn morality... if you would shut up i'll be rich!)
Do it. Half of the people you scam here will actively defend you long after the fact. no, never i want to feel comfortable. and scamming other people does not make me happy... ^^ this is much more worth than money (esp. if i think about my cute baby) edit: lucky -> happy |
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Hi,
heute musste ich für eine Überweisung von 0,023 BTC eine Gebühr von 0,005 BTC blechen ...damit soll ich die Knoten unterstützen.
Kann ich selber so einen Knoten betreiben, oder macht man das automatisch wenn man einen BitCoin-Wallet laufen lässt ?!?!
Ich lasse zur Zeit einen 3 Kern Server ( mit 2,3 Mhash ) an BTC Minden ... was verschwendung ist.
Daher die Frage für einen Knoten ... was bringt der und wo bekomme ich Info's dafür her einen zu betreiben?
Danke.
mit der transaktionsgebühr unterstürzt du keine knoten (=nodes, laufende bitcoin clients) sondern die miner. dh um einen knoten zu starten musst du nur den bitcoin client runterladen: dafür bekommst du aber keinen bitcent. da beim minen der sogenannte blockreward derzeit 50bitcoins pro gefundenem block ist, sind die transaktionsgebühren aus miner sicht vernachlässigbar und dienen NUR dazu um ein spammen des netzwerks mit kleinbeträgen zu vermeiden. du hast vermutlich soviel zahlen müssen, weil es sich um sehr neue coins (dh sie sind gerade erst in deinem wallet angekommen) oder eine transaktion die sich aus sehr vielen einzelnen "zahlungseingängen" zusammengesetzt hat verschickt hast (transaktionsgröße). ich verwende blockchain.info als mein wallet und zahle nur in den seltensten fällen eine gebühr. dafür muss ich dann oft auch sehr lange warten bis die zahlung vom bitcoin netzwerk akzeptiert wird. Das ist so nicht ganz richtig. Die Gebühren haben noch einen anderen Zweck. bei derzeit 50btc reward (und bald 25btc) interessieren die gebühren noch nicht Die Miner kriegen was von den Transaktionsgebühren die im Block enthalten sind auf den Blockreward draufgeschlagen. Da sich die Bitcoinanzahl pro Block alle XXXXXX(Zahl nicht im Kopf) erminete Blöcke halbieren wird , bis irgendwann 2140 keine Bitcoins mehr "gemined" werden können , muss für die Miner ja auch ein Anreiz geschaffen werden weiter zu machen und das sind in dem Fall die Transaktionsgebühren. Denn durch das Minen werden die Transaktionen in den Blöcken verifiziert.
bis dahin wird sich der algorithmus zur berechnen der gebühren noch ändern. vermutlich wird es darauf hinauslaufen das die pools sagen wieviel sie mindestens erwarten oder aber das sie ihre miner erst dann anwerfern wenn eine "lohnende" transaktion kommt. das dauert noch Blöcke ohne Transaktionsgebühren werden deshalb auch mit niedrigerer Priorität gelöst.
quatsch edit: genaugenommen gilt sogar das gegenteil: wenn in einem block keine transaktionen (und damit keine gebühren) aufgenommen werden (selbst wenn es welche geben sollte) ist es minimal besser es nicht zu tun, da der block dann kleiner wird und schneller im netz propagiert -> höhere chance keinen orphan zu bekommen. ^^ da die chancen aber nur minimal besser sind und es assi ist (alle transaktionen dauern dann länger) hat das bisher nur der "Mystery Miner" mal gemacht (nicht der user... wurde nur so benannt weil man nicht wusste wers war) |
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I for one, thing that this is a useful thread. I don't have anything to contribute though. Is there a thread of particularly reputable BTC users? Might also be useful (and might invoke less acrimony!).
That's a great idea, I'll keep my eye open for those who seem to be the most reputable and if no one else beats me to it I will start a thread when I have a few names... A few names for the GOOD USERS thread, if one gets started, in no particular order: Patrick Harnett Goat, he does what he says, but you have to make sure you read the fine print because it might say he is taking all your money.  Nefario, despite the nefarios handle, he runs the GLBSE and is one of the most trusted and respected members of the forum. Theymos (do we get extra points for sucking up to the admins?) Senbonzakura Gavin Andresan (sp?) If I can get a couple senior members to confirm these names as trust-worthy I will start the new thread with their names =) i dont know Senbonzakura but i do trust the rest |
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Hi,
heute musste ich für eine Überweisung von 0,023 BTC eine Gebühr von 0,005 BTC blechen ...damit soll ich die Knoten unterstützen.
Kann ich selber so einen Knoten betreiben, oder macht man das automatisch wenn man einen BitCoin-Wallet laufen lässt ?!?!
Ich lasse zur Zeit einen 3 Kern Server ( mit 2,3 Mhash ) an BTC Minden ... was verschwendung ist.
Daher die Frage für einen Knoten ... was bringt der und wo bekomme ich Info's dafür her einen zu betreiben?
Danke.
mit der transaktionsgebühr unterstürzt du keine knoten (=nodes, laufende bitcoin clients) sondern die miner. dh um einen knoten zu starten musst du nur den bitcoin client runterladen: dafür bekommst du aber keinen bitcent. da beim minen der sogenannte blockreward derzeit 50bitcoins pro gefundenem block ist, sind die transaktionsgebühren aus miner sicht vernachlässigbar und dienen NUR dazu um ein spammen des netzwerks mit kleinbeträgen zu vermeiden. du hast vermutlich soviel zahlen müssen, weil es sich um sehr neue coins (dh sie sind gerade erst in deinem wallet angekommen) oder eine transaktion die sich aus sehr vielen einzelnen "zahlungseingängen" zusammengesetzt hat verschickt hast (transaktionsgröße). ich verwende blockchain.info als mein wallet und zahle nur in den seltensten fällen eine gebühr. dafür muss ich dann oft auch sehr lange warten bis die zahlung vom bitcoin netzwerk akzeptiert wird. |
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i'd recommend bitpay as a payment provider to protect you from any risk.
as its pretty easy to code an html app-store: where do you need help?
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Jesus Christ...
The bitcoin community is gullible as fuck. Therefore, it attracts scammers.
That's how simple it is. No pathetic posts about feeling betrayed, no multiple threads about the same topic (being butthurt about getting scammed), no tears and drama is needed.
The only thing you all need, is to learn how to use your brains. Do not trust anyone, especially not just because you had sweet chit-chat over Skype and PM's. Your parents obviously failed to raise you, because even kindergarten kids know they're not supposed to trust strangers.
i dont know where you come from but i am proud to be raised in a way to first assume other people are honest. i should not think this about random internet people though; lessen learned. |
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you could try mining litecoin and sell them for btc
but if you pay for electricity i think it is not much better
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In hindsight, I no longer see this bet as being funny and I think it was in horrible taste. The community members who were my friends who are standing up against this are right in doing so I and I have no place in the bitcoin community as I clearly don't take it as seriously as everyone else. I am happy to have learned so much from Bitcoin and I'm glad to have shared in many experiences as well, but I cannot discount the claims that I have some issues with manicism as there is no other explanation for my often irrational behavior. I'll be seriously looking at my life and exiting from the community with my sincerest apologies.
Mihai Alisie will be speaking for the Bitcoin Magazine at the London conference. I am in the process of exiting the company completely equity and all in addition to already having resigned as a director and Editor in Chief, as it seems the right thing to do for the future of the magazine.
Ellet's IP is being handed over to a more capable party and I will be exiting any involvement with it.
DCAO is being dismembered and the existing heads will start another organization a bit more seriously toned.
I will not be involved in any businesses in this community any longer. It is clear my immaturity is hurting the community more than I am helping it, and the position I have been in has only resulted in hurting myself and those around me. I'm glad to see that many people did get my joke, but I ask that they not defend me as even I see now that it was crossing all sorts of lines that should never have been crossed and I have absolutely no excuse for it.
I'm sorry I let so many people down that I never even realized actually cared and I hope I can somehow serve as an example of what not to do so that all of this was not a complete waste.
I will now leave how I came.
if you feel so sorry take the btc you have and divide them proportionally. for me this would be enough btw: i would have paid (and i expect most others also): or would you have told us that it was just a joke in case that pirate would have paid? |
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50BTC als Startangebot
...bin aber Verhandlungsbereit
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i have an idea whenever i say i use a service you all should leave it immediatly.. i am the perfect scam detector (sorry... just in a bad mood today...) |
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what a shame...
as a friend and me decided to offer a new bitcoin service: should we steal the coins?
seems to be more profitable: and i am not able to see any risks.
(btw: no we won't do that. we'll just make sure its impossible to steal us a huge amount. but damn morality... if you would shut up i'll be rich!)
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Sorry, I've been gone for a few days. Did pirate also get one? Actually, I just need someone to help catch me up on the most recent events. I feel like a stray cat wandering these forums now.
Pirate has paid back in full, MNW got the scammer tag because of scamming his readers out of annual subscriptions for his magazine which has now ceased existence, it has turned out Atlas is Satoshi Nakamoto when he was arrested by FBI agents in an undisclosed Scandinavian location (presumably a village with all blue houses and street lights), Bruno is really Gavin, and Gavin is really Leonard Nimoy. Lightcoin has pared with BTC (this was the day before yesterday), but dropped in value immediately when my dog farted (this was today). That sums it up pretty much. Welcome back! LOL you forgot that the CIA said that they will use BTC as their primary currency to pay out their informants |
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Matthew committed fraud, plain and simple. While I'm personally only disappointed that I'm not getting 400 BTC, others used this bet as their main method of hedging against Pirate or made other investment decisions based on this bet because they trusted Matthew. Matthew has demonstrated that he is unworthy of anyone's trust. I guess I was right the first time. I have no confidence in [Matthew]'s sense of morality, and I will never trade with him.
+1 Is he still a staff member? |
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Scammer tag has been issued.
Is he still a staff member?
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Yes. Scammer for sure.
This time even a staff member...
Btw courts dont interpret contracts literally... But as usual he does not have to fear anything.
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