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601  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading sucks, I'll just hold my coins on: August 24, 2017, 12:08:37 PM
you must not have enough knowledge before starting trading. I have seen many people becoming rich thanks to trading. You need to spend more time to learn about trading before getting use to it. well, holding your coins is not a bad idea, but you will lose a chance to earn even more money Wink

Hehe, honestly day trading always better than holding in long term about profit and base price, however your health will decrease after long time working with day trading (because your emotion easy affect if the price of altcoin you trading not happening like your predict) Tongue

We need to sacrifice something to make money. You have big investment then no need to sacrifice your health just invest money and wait for a couple of years. Or you want to become a day trader then you must spend a lot of time in trading. Ofcourse it will spoil your life by giving many shocks per day. You can able to control your tension then it will be possible but not sure.


602  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: do you sell your bitcoin or convert to usd? on: August 24, 2017, 11:57:37 AM
I don't sell or convert my bitcoin because I want to hold it for years because I know the price of bitcoin will be more than of what value it has right now. I don't want to settle for less I am aiming for big return from my investment.
That’s cool! I guess you know about the real powers of bitcoins very well. Bitcoins should be treated as an asset than as a currency to enjoy huge profits. Bitcoins are definitely going to increase manifolds in price in the coming years. I can bet you will be among the new millionaires soon.
Everyone knows this truth, and Bitcoin will rule all digital currencies in coming days. So it will never come down and keep on increasing. That is why all are holding bitcoins. Converting bitcoins to USD only when I need money. Otherwise, i will keep it in my wallet. Some coins will invest in altcoins. I am not worried about my investment bcz I know it will come back with profit in future.
603  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it possible for the bitcoin to lose it's value ? on: August 23, 2017, 06:31:05 PM
Hi , I'm new so basically I still have a lot to learn about the cryptocurrency , but I would like to know if it would be possible for the bitcoin to start the downfall ? I mean like what scenario can happen that the bitcoin would be pushed back like 5-6 years ?
Sorry if my post is in the wrong place or it's not relevant.
Anything and everything is possible in this world,for you can't predict what is going to happen. No one predicted 9/11 attack would be an inside attack(it's a rumour that i came across). So bitcoin does has a chance to lose all of its value,but it can increase like hell as well. Now that the price is over 4k,the price can go anywhere,just hope that the price doesn't has a continuous downfall.

 

Nothing is impossible, and also we can not guess what will happen tomorrow. Like that now Bitcoin is god for many investors, and they are making a huge profit from this coin. Who knows in future who will replace this coin. But as per now, Bitcoin is the king of the all digital currency and at least for a couple of years it will not lose his value. 
604  Economy / Economics / Re: How long could bitcoin last? on: August 23, 2017, 06:27:35 PM
As it is growing day by day we can say that it wont be ending and crypto market will be growing more rapidly as there are millions of peoples connect to internet, bitcoin and online stuffs which will make it running for years and years. 
LONG LIVE BITCOIN!!!!!
Same is what I think about crypto currencies. They have just started their journeys.
Billions of people are still not familiar with these currencies and the advantages they provide to the users. Still that time has to come when these currencies will be ruling the world especially bitcoins. So, I don’t think so they are going to be a part of past ever.

Yes still lot's of people don't know about this Bitcoin. Not only uneducated even the educated engg and doctors and other business people also don't have any small idea of this digital currency. So it will take some years to know about Bitcoin to everyone. Till that we have time to make money so why we take tension. 
605  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: August 23, 2017, 06:22:47 PM
If digital currency will completely replace paper money then it will create lot of backlog.
People will have to wait too long for transactions.
We don't have very developed network yet still we face this problem  but only on  a smaller scale.

if people will use credit/debit cards then there are many people who will use only paper money as everyone cannot afford to have credit totally depends on bank procedures, but the majority of the people will continue to use paper money.

Basically, paper money is the main thing used by everyone. Because it is only with paper money we can get something that can not be obtained by with other currencies such as cryptocurrency. Because it is now cryptocurrency can not be used like banknotes, but for investment cryptocurrency is very supportive to get many benefits. Because now cryptocurrency has been ogled by most people, so the higher the price and certainly provide many advantages. Because the system is very good and profitable.
In the future paper money was still functioning, because more of the people was cannot follow to the flow of technology. Due to poverty and lack of education more people in the world wasn't know how to used different kinds of gadgets. That's why in my opinion even thousand years past paper money wasn't vanished.
We also understand if want use Bitcoin, need have a good PC for store Bitcoin and a internet stable for connection network. Of course, with poor country like in Africa, they can't enough this requerements and never have opportunity use Bitcoin.
I think according to me except few backlog countries, in all country we have an internet connection and to access we have systems and mobiles. But still, why we need paper money means to do small money transaction in our daily life. And you are right all are not educated to use bitcoins. Some people will have high class mobile and all, but they don't know how to use the digital currency they only prefer paper money. So paper money will never lose its value.   
606  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin price pump, altcoins dump? on: August 22, 2017, 11:54:32 AM
Why do altcoins price dumping. When bitcoin price pump. Is there any explanation about this?
because altcoin price who compare with bitcoin leave behind, if the bitcoin pump, the value of other altcoin become decrease, Rather like fire and water, If the fire is extinguished then the water fills it and if the fire is on then the water will dry out.

Indeed.prices of altcoins will always be linked to how bitcoin fares in the market. Of course with bitcoin surging, people would look less into alts for making profit and focus more on a much safer btc

Yes today all altcoins price and Bitcoin price is falling. After few weeks again the Bitcoin price came under $4k. I think it may have a chance to go still down.So we may get one more chance to buy bitcoins at a low price. You are interested in investing in altcoins then it is the right time. Check the price and buy coins. I am buying some more waves.
607  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Loss almost 40%, should stop trading or not ? on: August 22, 2017, 11:50:59 AM
You need more knowledge in trading since losing that percentage concludes that your trading skills are novice but it does not mean that you need to stop. You also need experienced to level up. Maybe you just need a little hiatus and make a plan on retrieving the lost money.
The loss is common in every business. So we don't give up. If you lose in gambling, I will also support you to stop because gambling is not a way to make money. But trading is a good way to make money. Don't give up easily. Try to get back your loss in the same trading. Still have remaining 60% amount right. Now invest it and make a profit.
608  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: btc crossing 3,000 $ today ? on: August 22, 2017, 11:48:14 AM
i can see large buying orders on many exchangers , are we going to cross 3,000 $ today ?

Bitcoin now was already 4200$ so far or it will be more higher for the coming weeks afor sure. The demand everyday was increasing and cannot be stop the hotness of bitcoin. The prediction and projection by the bitcoin experts are now little by little happening until it reach 10, 000$ or more. So, hold on tight guys Cheesy
This is something that is holding me and not letting me quit trading in bitcoin. I am so excited to see the time when it will reach 10,000$ and I have read somewhere that the users are increasing in a higher rate than ever so it will touch 10.000$ within this year. At that time will be the happiest time of my life till then. This is what I think when I face any kind of loss and this hope of getting 10,000$ gives me strength.
no doubt that bitcoin has the ability to cross that level but for that you have too wait a lot.

Perhaps we may not even need to wait 5 years for that. You see how quick the price went up to almost double in just around a week? It is possible we may get to that level in just a year or two.

No it is not possible. i agree that within one month the price is doubled. But if the price keeps on increasing means that coin will lose value in the market. No one will do trading. And after reaching your target if suddenly fell means again it will take years to come back. So it takes some time to reach that target. 
609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: August 22, 2017, 11:01:19 AM
No Surprises in the couple of past days, England and India have won their respective matches as they were expected too. WI had not a single idea how the pitch was behaving. As for Srilanka, total disappointment. They had a wonderful start but lost their way in the middle. Srilanka are playing like Pakistan used to play, Collapsing all of a sudden, They did collapse in the Champions trophy too. I think both England and India will whitewash their opponents in this series. England for sure, Srilanka may win a game by chance. But the series result is clear. Its a one way road from here.

The West Indies collapse was beyond reason. The West Indies has decided to play Chris Gayle and Marlon Samuels in the ODIs. I suspect their decision might have been prompted by the abysmal performance of the West Indies team. Nobody gains if the West Indies keeps losing.

It was really pathetic to see how WI players scummed to England bowlers. Seeing this WI team its hard to believe if their main stars do not play there is no Team B available for WI who can give some good fighting spirit on the pitch. Well it would be cake walk for England to win this series .

West Indies and Sri Lanka both are big teams, and they had the capacity to beat any team. Specially SL was very strong in the home ground to win any test match in SL pitch the away teams will suffer lot.  But now the ZIW team can beat SL main team, and Bangladesh will beat WI. At present two series is going on, so it will be a cake walk for both teams India and England. No extra putting effort these two teams will win series.
610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fun seeking gamblers vs profit seeking gamblers on: August 22, 2017, 10:56:27 AM
Fun seeking gamblers are very rare they just want to play whenever they want and they do it for their own entertainment. And if you will go to the most crowded places on Earth that's full of gambling establishments all of the people there are just for the profit. And they are all seeking for it, all day they long you will only rare hear and see gamblers for fun.
You want to see profit seeking gamblers then visit any real casino. There most of the people will come to win money. Very rare people will spend money to have fun. And you will see big business people will play big amount in a single bet. You also feel to play gambling. But in online gambling, many people will play for fun. Becasue it is just time pass.
611  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: August 22, 2017, 10:52:51 AM
I bought myself some clothes and eat delicious food that is the best thing I can do when I win through gambling and besides I don't gamble all the time so when I win then I think its a lucky day.

The most expensive thing I bought with the winnings I've got in gambling is my smartphone which cost $200, which is expensive to me already. I'm not that much of a gambler, I'm winning enough profit, I could say, not like other which is betting big so the return that they are getting is much bigger, and I'm saving some of my profits because i want to buy a car.

Well, i have bought expensive thing more than you, i bought my iPhone which cost is 0.1 btc, and i won this 0.1 btc within my 3 last months from gambling. Then i suddenly decided to buy some good mobile and the previous week when i got win 0.05, then i bought it. But i still happy you and me have won in gambling and fulfill our dream. So should thank to gambling.
Good, you not wasted your money. And whenever you see your mobile you feel better because you won that mobile in gambling. You are right we need to convert our winnings into any things then only it is possible to save our winning amount. If we convert it into altcoins also problem, we will lose that coins in gambling.
612  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it worth using bitcoins anymore for gambling ? on: August 22, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
I feel my bankroll management and savings all are highly unstable. Can go up or down by storing money in bitcoin to gamble. Some form of betting like poker requires good bankroll management and with value changing everyday, I don't see bitcoin as a good use for poker players and sportsbettors.



I don't think that it is big problem. When bitcoin price go to high then do small bet and when bitcoin price go to down than do bet with big price. It is depend on you, how to use your bankroll and manage it with bitcoin price. Actually, it is matter for poker and sport betting gamblers, So if we have control on our bankroll and use small and big bet with the price of bitcoin, than may be we will handler it.

this is why i am not feel good if using bitcoin because of the fluctuation for the price. i think there is any gambling site with altcoin for place betting. and if we found any good gambling site with altcoin for betting, then i think we can trying with small amount first to see how lucky we are and if everything good then we can try with big bets.

I am not sure that your luck will change if you change the casino site to play. And now already all sites are starting to accept altcoins to play gambling. Becasue players are not spending their bitcoins to play gambling. The value is high, so casinos also understand this and allowing people to play with altcoins. Except for few casinos, all casinos will accept altcoins.
613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: August 22, 2017, 10:45:59 AM
Gambling can not bring a permanent profit, so that it is so arranged that it is a business to bring a permanent profit to the owner, and not to the players, so you only need to tune in to entertainment.
Yes gambling is a business for owners and us(players) this is just an entertaining game. If we do this business and play only to make money that's it. We will lose all money. So playing gambling is only worth if you look fun in the game. If you look to profit in the game, then it is not worth it's a big loss.
614  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Kill The Income Tax on: August 20, 2017, 06:31:32 PM
Personally, I think that it is a good idea for a bitcoin and other cryptocurrency to kill income tax. The death of income tax will open up a wider opportunity for the users of bitcoin to have bigger income. But honestly, i think this isn't possible because income tax is primarily the source of budget of the government. It is our own contribution to the country.
Except for few Gulf countries, all country governament will run based on this income tax amount. If they not collect income tax then it is not at all possible to run the country. It will effect on the country economy. That is why the govt is not making this Bitcoin transaction legal in their countries. If they get any income, all countries will accept this Bitcoin.
615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where do you guys gamble BTC? on: August 20, 2017, 06:13:24 PM
In the past, I only use directbet.eu to gamble, I never try any other gambling site that accept bitcoin or cryptocurrencies in general. I like this site too much, but unfortuanlty the site is closed now.

I hope that one day, it will open again, so maybe i will return to gamble with bitcoin. Further, I play gambling but with real currency, not bitcoin. I mostly play in bet365.
Yes Dreictbet site is one of the most reputed sites for sports gamblers. Why they closed suddenly don't know the reason. But before closing their site, they settled all players payment and closed this will tell they may come again in the future. I am also not betting more on sports. bet365 will accept all country currency or only one country money because I am not tried this site.
616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: August 20, 2017, 06:09:26 PM
Srilanka is playing some really good cricket and it was kind of expected, they are hurting from the test series and India bowlers are not their prime time one, barring one or two. So it's kind of interesting to see if they will scored 300 plus and team India will be able to chase it down. The main focus would be on Kohli and Dhoni, both have not performed that we'll. While no one can touch Kohli, Dhoni is put on the watch list perform or perish. Let's see what happens now. India or Lanka what are you playing on
Which Srilankan team you are talking about,they just got white washed in their home turf by India and they are struggling for a long time now after the retirement of Kumar Sangakkara and Mahela Jayawardene they could not find a good replacement and it is hard for them to find a solid performance for those two world class performers. India will win the ongoing match with ease as they are chasing a very low total.

Sri Lanka lost the match once they failed to post a strong total. 216 was never going to challenge India. The total was below par, considering that Sri Lanka started promisingly. India chased down the total in just 28 overs, with Dhawan scoring a whirlwind century.

Yeah, it was a really poor performance by Sri Lanka, they failed in each and every department of the game. Despite of the excellent start given by their top order, they failed to post big total on the board. At the end it was a very easy chase for India, Shikhar Dhawan continued his superb form and there was good support by the chase master Kohli.

This is boring game one side match. Only Indian fans will enjoy this game to watch India batting. Why the strong teams are becoming worst. They need more time to make a good team. SL made a mistake not to hire more newbies when the senior players in the team. If they allowed new players to play with top players, then they will learn how to play against the strong team. Suddenly all seniors retired and the team become like this.
617  Economy / Economics / Re: Selling Bitcoin = Opportunity loss?! on: August 18, 2017, 02:47:29 PM
Many posts discuss the possibility of exchange earnings with selling Bitcoin (and buy later). Other posts discuss the Bitcoin exchange rate, it seems that many agree there is a strong upward tendency and the volatility is hard to predict. It seems dat selling Bitcoin results in a serious probability of an opportunity loss. Selling Bitcoin can only be motivated by an (partial) exit. Do you agree?

It depends on how a user thinks of selling their bitcoin. Sometimes they sell it because they need cash in real life, others sold too if they need to use it for various purposes and in some cases, they are on profit and believes that a dip will come in the way so they can purchase more.

Bitcoin will surely go up while on progress but remember that at some point it will experience price dip or big crash. Others just want to take advantage of this so selling is part of their strategy.


I sold my coins because of this reason. I need some urgent money, and the price is also not bad it's impressive I sold when it comes above $4k. I also know that the price will go more than $5k but I did not have that much time to wait. And who knows if any big crash happened there is a chance to go under $3k. 
618  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 18, 2017, 02:36:06 PM
If yoz are interested in investemnt site you are in the right place.I know one site where you can buy shares and after couole of weeks sell them fo lr minimum 20 x bigget price or you can sell them after 1 year for 200 x bigger price.

And what is this site? It's better to invest in bitcoin right now and this will be giving you not only a steady income but a big blow income. The price is quite lowered today and you'll just do buying and selling of bitcoin and also alt coins. Yes, it's all about trading, others will not say it can give you a steady income but many are doing it and treating it that way.
Never trust anything that promise a return that is too good to be true, we should look more on the development first and predict what it can do to the market. Like bitcoin, it has not promise anything but people supported it because its a new technology that is helpful to the people. HYIP and ponzi is something that we should stay away with.

Yeah I know about it mate, those sites that are encouraging people to invest into their platforms and promising big returns are just a bunch of scams and lazy people. There's no good life in HYIP, ponzi's or even cloud mining you are just shortening your crypto career and you wanted to upset yourself because their scamming tactics are exposed here.

Having mentioned the word hyip, I remember being a victim of a site that promise a good return or interest if you invest on them.  I am new into bitcoin and do not have any idea about scam so since I want to earn more, I signed up and deposited a good amount of bitcoin.  It just evaporates and never saw the site again.

Many ways to earn through bitcoins that you will have your income every week.  But if you really want to earn a steady income, prepare a resume and find a job.

Well said, steady income only we get in the real job. Making Bitcoin and earning all just part time job. But Bitcoin gives you more profit than what you will earn in a regular job. For that, if you do not find any job means you will suffer in the future. If the Bitcoin price went down. So get a job for steady income and make Bitcoin is part time income.
619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: August 18, 2017, 02:28:15 PM
what an innings as a captain, Joe Root has scored another century as a captain. he is leading his team at the front line. besides good captaincy, he has also performed as the best batsman of his team. he is still batting with a strong hand, 109 runs from 149 balls. he has already hit 20 boundaries. that is massive, so he scored 80 runs from the boundaries.The English team has got another good captain. I think England will win this test as well as the Test series against West Indies very easily. latest scores for England 235 for 2 wickets, still a full session is their hand. wow, that is called real dominance in the test match.

It was a good toss to win and England are getting ready to bat West Indies out of the match. The only point where England can improve is the scoring rate. 300+ runs in a day is par for tests these days.

England becomes safe in this test match. amazing centuries from Cook and Root, after losing Root wicket Dawid Malan also batting well he scored a half century. Alastair Cook needs just 6 runs to hit a double ton. Great batting from this batsman. England made 420 runs with the loss of just 3 wickets. They may score more than 600 runs in 1st innings. Cook has a chance to make a triple century.
620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: August 18, 2017, 02:22:55 PM
Incredible A.Zverev is already out of the Cincinnati tournament.
So many absences and renunciations in this tournament. For me there are 3 favorites: Nadal, Del potro and Thiem.
Despite this elimination A. Zverev should make his best ranking (sixth) unless if Thiem wins the tournament (in that case Thiem would be sixth and make him his best ranking)
I am really suprised that Zverev lose in his first match in Cincinnati. I guess he was tired of Montreal...
For me, the biggest favorites are Nadal, Thiem. Nadal's match is next on the central court, so let's see what his performance will be like.
Yeah it is surprising but being a young player like Zverev need to have lot experiences he should understand the body conditioning successive play sometimes is not good for a player because once body fatigue set in it will ruin your performance you should need relax sometimes in preparation for the big event like grand slam. He need a conditioning coach to oversee his physical conditioning so that for the next game hi is a complete package
Yeah, he said that he was tired. Also, he seemed uninterested in Cincinnati. He wants to be prepared for US open probably, which is his prio at the moment.

Yeah, but at least I was thinking that he is going to use Cincinnati to practice to the real event.

I mean, at least he should be giving 90% of himself, but it was seems that he didn't care at all.

I really hope for him that he will take himself out in the hands and have a really good practice for the US open which is a very important tournament for the future of his career as a tennis player.


Guys dont worry for Zverev. He was tired after some really good tournaments and now he will rest and give his best in the US open. I believe he can get to the finals.
Yes he played back to back series and tired. So he needs some rest now before going to play the US Open. This tournament is important for his career. Some senior players are also taking rest to play well in this tournament. I think Zverev will give a tight competition to all senior players. Now he is also in the race to win the US Open.
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