BCT is the biggest crypto forum, you would think that it would be updated with info like, Your addresses are going bye bye.
I agree. I found out the same way you did, by opening it after some time away and seeing everything gone. I reached out to some of the guys (theDogeparty, Huminit) via Twitter, which by the way also didn't have any notice of an update. They got back to me after 3 or 4 days with the way to fix it. Ridiculous. |
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Xdp my wallet was empty, and how can I get back to my private key
Xdp my wallet was empty, and how can I get back to my private key
I had this happen to me too. I think they did an update and didn't relay that to the community too well. I got my addresses back but I'm not sure I remember how. I think made a New Address. Then it automatically became my old address with all the old assets. I had 5 or so addresses in my wallet so I made 5 or so new addresses. I think I logged out and back in a few times too. Importing private keys didn't work for me. I just got an error. My new addresses are the same ones as before and the private keys are the same. The above seems like a backwards way to bring addresses back in to a blank wallet but it works somehow. If I find the old email explaining what to do from DogeParty team I'll post it here. |
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btw "factom" looks like notarychains just missing the integration point into a p2p file storage sysem like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_SyncAs of 26 August 2014, there have been more than 10 million user installs and more than 80 petabytes of data synced between users.[11] We are a Bitcoin 2.0 project (previously branded as Notary Chains) located in Austin, Texas headed by our lead developer and founder, Paul Snow |
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Hello ShadowCash community !
You got my attention with the PoH Awards (looks like you win in front of darkcoin)!
I read some of the first 100 pages of the thread and got excited about this altcoin. But then, I saw all the trolling, the senseless verbal jousting, and most importantly, the lack of communication from the dev.
Of course everybody needs holidays, or might get sick, but I do believe that even if you are in hospital, you can still spend 10 minutes of your time each day to moderate and communicate with the community you have created or have someone do it for you. I am part of other altcoins communities, and the main devs are always present when uncertainty arises, or to slap some trolls in the face.
I see here a great coin, but with an absent leader, I hardly see how I could invest in it. Sometimes, when I invest in a coin, I just need to see a post from the creator to feel confident !
P.S.: Ryno, pls connect 10min in here and delete all trolling, and come back to your community, and to welcome new possible investors as myself!
Welcome! These two places are good spots to find Ryno / SDCDev |
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Hopefully we will have some respected people review the code. There are still some attack vectors if you don't take precautions with your amounts and timing. For example, you transfer 27.75664321 SDC to Shadow. Then 5 minutes later u turn the exact same amount less the fee back to SDC, its going to be pretty obvious.
It is not quite as simple as that .... Look here : http://shadowtn.blockexplorer.cc/tx/47da4aca657ec9fe4ab7de6fa1e3dd5e935474151bfcc18d39c3b537885f25bdNow tell me how much Shadow --> Shadow I sent  dunno, guessing like 50? (just added the outputs like an idiot so im guessing its wrong) edit: how many did u in fact send? p.s. if i guess right do i get to have dinner with you and Ryno? My first guess is: 20 Second guess: 10 |
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If you want a coin to be doomed list it on Craptsy
I said it some time ago....
F*ck NO, you don't want HYP on Bittrex or Craptsy !! Because those f*ckers are staking POS coins from user deposits !!
Life is a bitch, get used to it... |
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Take the reigns. Give him a call. Have him set up a ShadowCash donation address (and announce it) and it sounds like it would help to get us on his radar. |
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Dont want to get attacked here but have one simple question I would like answered by coinmarketcap and anyone else can add if they like. How come you dont have the link below as your main page? The following link filters all the non mineable and premined coins. By you having the other view, you just give great advertising to coins like paycoin, ripple and stellar who instantly jump past other hard working coins because they have so many coins available and a massive market cap while pushing the rest of the good coins down. This fools new people joining the crypto world to buy these coins in the top 20 because of a massive marketcap based on premined or non minable coins when they probably have no ideas about this? All the first coins that were put on your site have been pushed down further and further everytime you have premined coins with massive marketcaps added. How about rewarding the hard working devs and not the guys trying to cheat there way to the top with premined coins getting all the exposure and fooling new investors? If people want to invest in those types of coins they can but the real coins list should be the default page of your site. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/views/filter-non-mineable-and-premined/Anyways you guys can crucify me now or agree, leave it up to you. snakey Instead of CMC using broad classifications like: "Not-Mineable" and "Pre-mined" they should have 3 categories: PoW Coins - Coins sustained by Miners PoS Coins - Coins sustained by Stakers Pre-mined Coins - Centralized Coins |
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over 1000 deposits wow  coz they accept alt coins thats why they get alot of deposits. I just wonder when will they ran  This is as good a time as any... 19 BTC gamble right there. |
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Just saw that and was going to post it here. That's over 1% of the coins and will be 3% IF it gets paid back. Very dangerous game being played. If you look at early transactions on the site you'll see they just stay in the deposit address and get paid back to original address + 100% from another account. The funds aren't used for trading (obviously) showing without a doubt it's a classic ponzi. The records are there to verify anyone thinking about playing with fire. BIG BALLS if this pays out. Jump from Rich List #21 to #9 in a little over 4 days |
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reading, reading and reading some more... then noticing the XPY price dropping. Yeah, I think its time for me to dump and run away fast. The ick factor of this ?coin? is growing like black mold and the toxic effects of XPY loosing value is only going to continue....
Concur. Ick factor. I can't put my finger on it - I just think it's all the terms like - hashlet, hashstaker, primecontrollers etc., that make this coin look/feel like the Scientology of crypto-currencies to me. You ever see one of their YouTube vids? It's like - what are these people talking about? Do they even know? Z There's too much going on here, price still dropping on Cryptsy 548 on coinmarketcap. It's in it's rightful place, among the countless other ICO coins in the dungeon. |
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What many people seem to be missing (and it is totally normal to do so because it's not been seen before) is they keep comparing it to existing solutions.
SDC has something completely new in that it destroys coins that are then converted into redeemable tokens that sit on top of the blockchain and these tokens can then be reconverted via minting into new SDC.
It's only the exchange / allocation of tokens that use the ring sig with basic NIZK to prove to the blockchain that the holder owns the value of the output without revealing identity, it's not the actual coins using ring sig.
It is indeed a very well thought out system that the cannot be followed on an explorer.
First of all, every single cryptocurrency destroys coins when they are used. That's how the work. An input can be spent once and only once, and any output (including change) is a new coin. What SDC has is essentially two types of coins on the same blockchain. When you say "destroys the coins" what that really means is a type of transaction that has one type of coin as input and another type as output (SDC calls this "mint" I believe). The latter kind is what is virtually identical to cryptonote. The former is (as far as I know, and I will assume this, but I haven't studied it) virtually identical to bitcoin. There is also a transaction type that has cryptonote-style coins on the input side and bitcoin-style coins on the output side (SDC calls this "redeem" I think). This is indeed something new, and there are some advantages to it, but also disadvantages. It is not correct to say that it adds anonymity though. The anonymity comes from the use of cryptonote style coins. As long as you use the cryptonote-style coins exclusively or predominantly, you have the same anonomity as Monero. If you mint and redeem frequently, you will have issues that reduce your anonymity. Doesn't the anonymity come from the use of ring signatures? It's just that both Cryptonote and ShadowCash use similar simplified applications of them? And that Cryptonote did it first? That's an important thing to clarify and will help with discussion. Cryptonote (an anonymous unknown entity) first applied both of these methods in a coherent cryptocurrency system, and deserves credit for the synthesis much the same way Satoshi deserves credit for synthesizing the ideas that went into bitcoin. SDC is using essentially the same construction as cryptonote for the anonymous coin type (Shadow tokens or whatever they are called). Thanks for clarifying that to me. That makes sense with how tracing and linking is hidden... ring sigs -> (un)trace & stealth addresses -> (un)link. Yes ShadowCash uses both, the Shadow token can only be used with stealth addresses (thus the untraceable and unlink-able transaction). And you are right, if Cryptonote first combined this logic into a crypto system then yes, give credit where credit is due. I think it's important for everyone to see this is how vetting and improvements happen in the real world. You don't see any Bitcoin purists coming into this topic saying, "ShadowCash uses a blockchain? Satoshi invented that, you're just a clone of Bitcoin..." We all give credit to SN for figuring out the public ledger, solving double spend, etc. If CN first applied ring sigs & stealth addresses in it's system then we need to acknowledge that. That's what Shadow is doing too. Now, the SDC devs have innovated that idea with implementation of Shadow tokens, but the original working system (just like the blockchain system, we too are using) is another project's innovation. This should also clarify to everyone why the XMR supporters are saying it's a clone of Cryptonote. See where they get that from? Since April 2014 they've been doing it. Bitcoin supporters would be saying the same thing if it wasn't a complete waste of time to write the sentence on the BITCOIN Talk forum. |
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What many people seem to be missing (and it is totally normal to do so because it's not been seen before) is they keep comparing it to existing solutions.
SDC has something completely new in that it destroys coins that are then converted into redeemable tokens that sit on top of the blockchain and these tokens can then be reconverted via minting into new SDC.
It's only the exchange / allocation of tokens that use the ring sig with basic NIZK to prove to the blockchain that the holder owns the value of the output without revealing identity, it's not the actual coins using ring sig.
It is indeed a very well thought out system that the cannot be followed on an explorer.
First of all, every single cryptocurrency destroys coins when they are used. That's how the work. An input can be spent once and only once, and any output (including change) is a new coin. What SDC has is essentially two types of coins on the same blockchain. When you say "destroys the coins" what that really means is a type of transaction that has one type of coin as input and another type as output (SDC calls this "mint" I believe). The latter kind is what is virtually identical to cryptonote. The former is (as far as I know, and I will assume this, but I haven't studied it) virtually identical to bitcoin. There is also a transaction type that has cryptonote-style coins on the input side and bitcoin-style coins on the output side (SDC calls this "redeem" I think). This is indeed something new, and there are some advantages to it, but also disadvantages. It is not correct to say that it adds anonymity though. The anonymity comes from the use of cryptonote style coins. As long as you use the cryptonote-style coins exclusively or predominantly, you have the same anonomity as Monero. If you mint and redeem frequently, you will have issues that reduce your anonymity. Doesn't the anonymity come from the use of ring signatures? It's just that both Cryptonote and ShadowCash use similar simplified applications of them? And that Cryptonote did it first? That's an important thing to clarify and will help with discussion. |
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First off, has there been enough time to assess if ShadowCash project has a working Zero Knowledge solution?
Secondly, does the Monero project of Darkcoin project have a Zero Knowledge solution?
I'd like to compare anonymous transactions between the three projects being discussed here; XMR, DRK & Shadow. Could somebody post transaction IDs for each project showing an anonymous trade? I'd like to compare apples to apples when it comes to linkability and traceability. Ignoring codebase and proof differences between them for now.
If there are other working ZK solutions in projects I haven't mentioned that should be part of this comparison please add an anonymous transaction from them as well.
1 good example from each blockchain would be appreciated.
Thanks.
i dont know if other coins will be able to give a link on the mainnet. but below, there is a link for sdc http://explorer.shadow.cash/block/b3f1a4f783b87b78f182ebd45b664b66e715fb521b6da807a2c59c1dd39f0050Thanks skip60. I'm going to use this one I got instead because it doesn't show an originating address: http://explorer.shadow.cash/tx/4d6c60a1db3ff4963385552a168b81e6b3621e404e5b0798fcc8172ad747b212First off, has there been enough time to assess if ShadowCash project has a working Zero Knowledge solution?
I haven't looked at the code. From the white paper it looks like it has what you are calling a "Zero Knowledge solution" based on the methods from cryptonote. Secondly, does the Monero project of Darkcoin project have a Zero Knowledge solution?
Monero and Darkcoin are different projects. Monero uses cryptonote, so it has what you are calling a "Zero Knowledge solution" (and has had it since day one, in April 2014). Nobody outside of the SDC community calls it that, but you can use whatever terminology you like I suppose. Cryptonote (i.e. Monero) does use a simple zero knowledge proof in its signature scheme, the same method that SDC uses. Darkcoin uses a variation of coinjoin where inputs and outputs from various transactions are combined by a series of semi-trusted nodes called Masternodes, essentially mixing those transactions together. There is not really a special transaction type for this, just a regular bitcoin-style transaction with many inputs and outputs. I'd like to compare anonymous transactions between the three projects being discussed here; XMR, DRK & Shadow. Could somebody post transaction IDs for each project showing an anonymous trade? I'd like to compare apples to apples when it comes to linkability and traceability. Ignoring codebase and proof differences between them for now.
Here is a Monero transaction: http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/ab187945caff3a9ca5034338657808f242d8f2899fc11d93f2ef2d719bb16ecdI don't know enough about the others to provide correct links to anonymous transactions. Thanks smooth. I'm going to start to look at both XMR & SDC. It sounds like DRK doesn't have what I'm calling "zero knowledge solution" to compare. Is that a fair assumption? It sounds like they are mixing, not hiding addresses, just trying to confuse the hell out of people in hopes they give up searching for links. If there is a transaction I should look at for DRK please post. I appreciate it. |
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First off, has there been enough time to assess if ShadowCash project has a working Zero Knowledge solution?
Secondly, does the Monero project of Darkcoin project have a Zero Knowledge solution?
I'd like to compare anonymous transactions between the three projects being discussed here; XMR, DRK & Shadow. Could somebody post transaction IDs for each project showing an anonymous trade? I'd like to compare apples to apples when it comes to linkability and traceability. Ignoring codebase and proof differences between them for now.
If there are other working ZK solutions in projects I haven't mentioned that should be part of this comparison please add an anonymous transaction from them as well.
1 good example from each blockchain would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Whys so scared? Try it within your own wallet, between addresses. You're your own mixing service now! And it's lightning fast (not a 24-48 hour wait like DarkSend running through the Masternode network.)
Yeah I know, lol. I plan to try it later but I was afraid of making a mistake losing some coins, so maybe need to make a fresh wallet. I am still confused on how to account for Shadow compared to SDC in the wallet. So once you convert to shadow, how do you know how much shadow you have and how do you select it to transfer back to SDC is what I have to figure out. Edit: I guess for now you just remember what address you sent to and then use the coin control option? Your Shadow coins will tally in the upper right along with SDC, staked coins & spendable coins. |
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